few and far between back and white photos that we saw 70 years ago. when queen elizabeth did this exact same ceremony. so what happens right now is the privy council, that accession council, excuse, me meets without queen charles. they're discussing not only how and went in for a claim him the king. but also declared the queen dead. this is a rubberstamp what. we are really waiting for is about half an hour, that is when we are will see king charles. the discussion will be around his title. we discuss as his former residence, that he will be king charles iii. but there may be other titles up for discussion today. we will also see the queen consort, camilla, there with him. we will see william and kate, the new princess imprints of wales right there. and we've already seen prime minister, we'll stress, look into that concession council as well. after, that he will make a speech. this will be live, and televised as you mentioned, the address that you heard from

yesterday was pre-recorded. today will be live to the nation. we don't have any sense necessarily how long it exactly will be. but again, all televised, all on camera for the nation to see. after, that comes the official proclamation of king charles. he will not be present for that. and then following, that we will hear a fanfare. we will hear trumpeter, is gun salutes. and that's also when the flags across the nation will be risen again to full staff for the next day. chris? >> all right, let's listen in live now. again, the beginning of the meeting of the accession council. begi now call on the clock of e council to read aloud the text of the proclamation. >> whereas it is pleased almighty god. it's a call to his mercy, our latest sovereign lady, queen elizabeth the second of blessed and glorious memory, by who's

deceased, the crown of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland is solely and rightfully come to the prince charles philip alpha george. we therefore, the laws spiritual and temporal of this realm and members of the house of commons, together with other members of the late majesties privy council and representatives of the realms and territories, of denim, and citizens of london and others do now hereby with one voice and consent of tongue and heart, publish and proclaim that prince charles phillips arthur george is now by the death of our late sovereign of happy memory. become or only, lawful, and rightful lead george. charles the third. by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland.

and of his other realms and territories. king, head of the commonwealth. defender of the faith. to who we doom acknowledge all faith and obedience with humble affection. beseeching god. by her kings and queens to rain. to bless his majesty with long, and happy years to rain over us. god save the k! >> god save the care! >> i now invite those on the platform to sign the proclamation.

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for the first time in history is quite extraordinary. because the accession council is a tradition that goes back almost as long as the monarchy. at the same time, we are seeing the hand of the late queen elizabeth the second. because, as you see. well saw first i can there on the left side of your screen. there was both the new queen consort, camilla, and the air to the throne now willem. now named to the privy council by the queen. so that they would be there when their father and husband, ascended to the throne. leading all of this. penny more didn't, and he. the new acting president of the council. i want to bring in now camilla, an associate editor for the telegraph that covers the royals. and rebecca taylor. the royal correspondent for the news. camilla, can we talk about the extraordinary moment for the first time on television.

and for the first time in 70 years. we see the meeting of an accession council? >> that's right chris. it does feel like history is being made today. doesn't it? not only because of the long serving nature of the queens rain. and the fact that we haven't witnessed the seasons and seven decades. but i think it's interesting. and this is a trademark of what we are going to see in the rain of calling charles the third. very accessible monarchy. and we saw it yesterday, with a very heartfelt speech. i thought that he spoke from the heart. he wore it on his sleeve. he spoke very movingly about his mother, as he led the nation, and indeed the world in mourning. and this decision to televise the events, that normally take place behind closed doors. it's the sense that it's carrying on from both of the parents that the royal family should not be a secret society. but people should be able to see some of the traditions being borne out before their very eyes. i appreciate from an american perspective, some of the

traditions seem quite archaic in some respects. a little bit backwards. but this is part of the fabric of what it is to be british. to uphold the traditions that have been in existence for centuries. but i think for the public to be let in, to be able to watch on the television like, this really does mark a step change in trying to modernize some of the ancient traditions. >> and let's listen in again. >>. directing his majesties secretary of state fix kott length, to cause the proclamation for proclaiming his majesty king charles iii to be published in scotland. eight, directing the clark of the council to issue circular letters for causing his majesty, king charles iii, to be proclaimed. our hereby approved. and that concludes the business for this part of the council.

i now invite the deputation party to accompany me to wait on the king in the council chamber. the >> and so that ends the first part of this ceremony. the second part. as we just heard from penny mordant will be when king charles iii a rides himself. but rebecca, let me ask you. because americans are not as familiar as the privy council. they see boris johnson there. the recently departed, recently retired, i would say, prime minister. this grew large from about 175

to more than 700 during the queens rain. it's a much more limited invitation. less of the folks that are here. what exactly is the privy council? and what is the importance to the british people of these kinds of traditional ceremonies? >> i think this council will actually be quite unfamiliar to british people as well. we'll be looking at this, and thinking. wow. that's the reason why they're having a nice chat with david cameron. not something you see every day. but it is great to see these traditions that we are, as we say, we like the attention in the uk. and these, i suppose tires to our history. and yeah, this privy council has a really important role today. to see the king, to confirm that they pledged their allegiance in that way. and that they give their, commitment to him. and recognize him in his new role. >> i mentioned this a few

minutes ago, camilla. but, the new queen consort. former duchess of cornwall. was made a pretty counselor in 2016 by the queen. in anticipation of this, the queen clearly wanted her to be able to be by her husband inside. when he was officially named king. talk about the hand of queen elizabeth that we are seeing today? >> all of this has been decades in the planning. as you'd imagine. but that decision for her to declare camilla would be queen consort. really only she could say it. and because she wanted to make sure the transition was smooth. and there would be the sense that charles could have the woman he loved by his side. without any question marks over status. we say queen consort. but actually effectively that we are saying is that she is queen camilla. from here on in. and that's important. what's interesting watching the ceremony, and you mentioned earlier, it was only on tuesday

that prime minister liz truss was installed in the kissing of hand ceremony by the queen. penny mordant officiating as the new president. five minutes ago, she wasn't at leadership for the tory crown. so it's certainly been a baptism of fire this week for a lot of these newly elective receptive prince of the british government. and we saw prince william, the prince of wales. everything has happened so rapidly this week. still acclimatizing to the idea of using the term, king charles iii. it's extraordinary really that so much planning has come over the course of many years. and when the moment actually comes. it's expedited with military precision. >> i have to say, rebecca, that is one of the things that americans are probably noting. and that is the timing, the precision, that the brits have been fouling. something that we don't see often in politics in the united

states. schedules are often used as a suggestion. not anything else. what would you expect to hear from the king now? he gave, what was in many ways, a very personal speech yesterday. that was on tape. today, he will be live. what should we expect to hear from him rebecca? >> i think if this follows in the same pattern as his mother, and when she spoke to the council back in the 50s. this will be a bit more formal. this won't have the same emotion. this is more speech for those who are there. rather than a speech for the nation. in quite the same way. so i would expect it to be a lot bit more formal. and be a bit more about his commitment to his role. and, he may, include traditionally. there is a commitment to the church of scotland. to hold back. that is again something from way back when. and, we ask merkel and hanover

if you like. but this will be something a little bit more phone novel. perhaps without the moving words about his mother. but what his role is now, his commitment to the dominion, and the commitment to the church. >> and they can talk about those things. camilla. but they say a picture paints 1000 words. and you mention the fact that theresa may is there. you mentioned the fact that next to boris johnson, and david cameron. and also in that crowd, gordon brown, tony blair, john major. nick clegg. i mean when you see all of those people together, including as i said, the queen consort. including william, now the prince of wales. how important is that visually for a nation that is mourning the only queen most of them have known but also sending a message, very strongly.

that in many ways the tradition, the world, life. goes on. >> exactly. this is all about continuity. because continuity brings reassurance. obviously, the death of the queen is a moment for extraordinary change in this country. and in the commonwealth. and wider world. at the same time, it's the precise reason why these events are so meticulously planned. so that the public can watch them. and basically say, okay, we've got this. the transition is happening. it's happening smoothly. and it is the right way to go. no individual is bigger than the crowd. it's the crown that endures. that's the spirit of continuity. at the heart of our constitutional democracy. so yes, to see the political heavyweights we're looking at the screen. tony blair, forced johnson, john major there. fair scotland there. all of these people of course, contribute to what is going to be, we hope, as successful

reign for king charles iii. he has got big shoes to fill. there's no denying that. he knows that more than anyone. but what they're also playing out here, is the wisdom of experience. you can at least say, even if you are worried about what comes next. that charles has learned from the master. if not the mistress. in having observed his mother's reign. and how well she did it in 70 years. >> when you talk about tradition, rebecca, my understanding is that when the invitations went out, they were even told the dress that was expected. nothing in this transition has been left to chance. >> no, and it's very important that they look the part as well. i think it will be too easy to wear the wrong kind of tie. or to go to the wrong shade of a day dress. and the whole aesthetic. it's very important that these things look exactly as we'd expect. >> and as you look over at this

crowd. what comes to mind for you? >> oh, good question. i think it is remarkable to see all of these people, these former heads of government. who we don't see too often, teresa may in the comments yesterday. gave that fantastic tribute to the queen. and i'd also love to see her here this morning too. i think it just, it gives you this view into a completely different world. look at the grandeur of that palace. look at the way that those people are there to mark something that is incredibly popular in the light of our nation. and if they are given out a certain sibling. if there you think it's important to be there. then it is important. >> i can barely tell you, camilla, how huge the crowd is growing here where i am. outside of buckingham palace.

we look at the grandeur there. but it is a remarkable sight. always, to stand outside of buckingham palace. and as we wait for this to begin, we just see tremendous crowds of people coming in. i've been talking about this all morning, but the number of families here together. the number of them who are carrying large bouquet of flowers. who want to be part of this historical moments. and yesterday, one of the things that we noted. and i'm guessing that we may see that again today, but when king charles began to speech, when his taped message began to play. people got into small crowds along their phones and were clearly trying to follow what they were seeing, this is a big moment it seems where a lot of the country has stopped and is paying attention. camilla? >> absolutely chris, i mean, we think back to the last king speech and people would have been gathering around the wireless to listen to george the sixth, of course multi

media has changed everything. but i also noted when i got on the train today. to come to my newspaper in the telegraph this morning. some large amounts of families, people with post, chairs buggies, wanting to bring their children in and i think, not only to pay their respects to the queen but they want to be able to say that they were here. and that they observed this momentous moment in history. and that's why you do get the crowds outside of buckingham palace. interesting that palace, it's become in recent years the peoples palace. they wanted to treat it well. the office. and that gossip was in the home. but in the years, it was more and more a wide range of people. and it's the place that seems to be the magnet in times like this. and i think it's just that people want to say that they were there. they want to say their children were there. because those people that met king charles iii yes day, the lady that even gave him a kiss. which apparently i spoke to his aides last night, it took him a bit by surprise. the reaction to him by

surprise. the idea of people suddenly breaking out into cheers, and god save the king was surprising! because these events don't happen often. and i think that's why people just want to be a part of them. >> i have to say, rebecca, there is been a lot of conversation about the change and you go through the streets of london and you see this huge billboards on every bus stop in pictures memorializing the queen. at the same time, the thought of the new k? first of all. being on money but also just hearing god save the king is such a startling moment, in such a reminder isn't it? the longest serving monarch that it is going to take people a while to adjust. >> definitely, and i think it will be giving the things. like money and stamps are facing. we'll have a while to get used to it. and i think it's in important to remember that the reputation

that charles felt for himself. that he's done as the prince of wales. but now that he is the king, as he said, yesterday his drop is going to change, his life is going to change. so we might see a different side of charles when he is charles the third as opposed to prince charles. and the queen, really took on her role so much younger, she was only 25. therefore she has her whole life forging the path as clean, and she didn't have so much of the previous reputation, and the high -- but charles, it really was thrown in a different way, but i think we'll see him change in himself. as we all get used to him as king. and he gets used to being, king and not the prince of wells. >> and we're expecting him to come out every moment now, so camilla excuse me if i interrupt you as the king comes out, but she makes such a good point about how charles life

will change because he talked about that in his speech yesterday that he wouldn't necessarily have the time to devote to some of the issues that he's been able to before and some of the charities can you talk about how charles life has changed already? >> well i think something might be happening chris. >> yes, the doors opening. and so we expect to see the new king charles the third and we already heard the privy council saying god save the king and so we see the new prime minister lustrous who is coming in and she will take her place and the various other members and dignitaries involved with the privy council and there we go with listening. >> business for part two of the

council. your majesty, to make a declaration. my lords, ladies, and gentlemen. it is my most sorrowful duty to announce to you the death of my beloved mother the queen, i know how deeply you entire nation, and i may say, the entire world. sympathize with me in the irreparable loss that we have all suffered, and it is the greatest consolation to meet steno the sympathy expressed by so many to my sister and brothers and the such overwhelming affection and support that should be extended

to our whole family and our lofts guy. to all of us as a family, as to this kingdom and the wider family of nations of which it is a parts my mother gave an example of lifelong love and of selfless service. my mother's rain wasn't equaled and duration. its dedication, and its devotion. even as we grave, we give thanks for this most faithful life. i am deeply aware of this great inheritance, and of the duties and heavy responsibilities of sovereignty. which have now passed to me. and taking up these responsibilities, i shall strive to follow the inspiring

example that i have been set, in upholding constitutional governments. and to seek the peace, harmony, and prosperity of the peoples of these islands. and of the commoner of realms, and territories throughout the world. in this purpose, i know that i should be upheld by the affection, and loyalty of the peoples whose sovereign high have been called upon to be. and, that in the discharge of these duties. i will be guided by the council of their elected parliaments. in all this, i am profoundly encouraged by the constant support of my beloved wife. i take this opportunity to confirm my willingness, and intention, to continue the

tradition of surrendering the hereditary revenues. including the crowd of state. to my governments, for the benefit of all. in return for the sovereign grant, which supports my official duties as head of state, and head of nation. and in carrying out the heavy task that has been laid upon me, and to which i now dedicate what remains to me, of my life, i pray for the guidance and help of almighty god. >> i have a humble duty to crave your majesties permission for the publication of your gracious speech? >> approved. >> concerning the security of the church of scotland? >> i understand that the law

requires that i should at my accession to the crown, take and subscribe the oath relating to the security of the church of scotland. i am ready to do so at this first opportunity. i, charles the third, by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, and to my other realms and territories, k, defender of the faith. do you faithfully promise and swear that i should maintain and preserve the settlement of the true protestant religion as was tablets by the laws made in scotland, in prosecution of the claim of rights and particularly by an act entitled, an act for them securing the search for religion, and

presbyterian governments. and by acts parts in the parliament that both kingdoms, for the union of the two kingdoms, together with the government, warship, dish the plan, rights, and privileges, of the church of scotland. so help me god. >> i now invite your majesty to subscribe both copies of the instrument, confirming the oath has been taken.

>> i now invite the witnesses to his majesty's oath, to sign both copies of the instruments.

>> and so we have a solemn and momentous time. as you see the signing of the documents, and the king who paid tribute again to his mother who said gave an example of lifelong love and selfless service, but he also talked about being upheld by the affection and loyalty of the british people, and it was almost a split screen standing here outside of buckingham palace because you have the seriousness and the calm, and the tradition of what we're watching on screen while behind me, as the crowds continue to grow, continue to swell, as more than more people come bearing flowers and hoping at some points to catch a glimpse of the new king. a band, a royal band began to play.

and was marching down the ball. that large street that you are familiar with that leads up from buckingham palace and heading we presume, i don't know if you can hear in the background the march that's a very short distance away from where the new king is and you also can't ignore the fact that the new king was signing the documents that was his wife and his son. i want to bring back in my panel, the editor for the telegraph recovers a royal. and rebecca taylor, also join me now. hillary torn, rich royal commentator and global business consultant. camilla, as you watch, this again, the first time any of us have seen anything like this and what are your thoughts? >> it's extraordinary to actually watch this procedure play out. isn't it. first you have king charles iii

which is led by charles the third and secondly that this is both, a constitutionally historical moment but also a family moment for queen charles, queen camilla and the prince of wales, formerly the duke of cambridge just to see the machinations of what they're doing there and i noted of course came charles signing his name charles ariel and camilla citing her name as camilla are as queen elizabeth would have done. again penny more than speaking here. >> penny mordant authorize the -- for recording the oath related to the security of this church of scotland. to be transmitted to the court of session, to be recorded in the book of setter and. and afterwards lodged in the state papers of scotland. and in the council register? >> approved. >> draft order and counsel. determining the form of

proclamation for proclaiming your majesty, in the realms, and in the british overseas territories. >> approved. >> draft of an order in council authorizing the lord chancellor to make use of the great seal for seeing all things altogether bypass the great seal until another great seal be prepared and authorized? >> approved. >> draft of an order in council authorizing the lord privy seal if need be to make use of the existing privy seal until another privy seal is prepared and authorized? >> approved. >> drafts of three orders in council authorizing your majesties principal secretaries of states the lower chancellor of the duchess of lancaster to use the existing seals until other seals be prepared and

authorized? >> approved. >> draft of an order in council authorize a your majesty secretary of state for northern ireland to make use of the existing great seal of northern ireland until another seal be prepared unauthorized? >> approved. >> draft of an order in counsel, authorizing your majesties first minister of scotland to make [noise] >> and obviously we have lost the feed. not sure what happened there. but if it's backup, let's look. >> to the other seal of scotland be prepared and authorized? >> approved. >> draft of an order in council authorizing your majesties first minister of royals to make use of the existing wells seal. until another well she'll be prepared and authorized?

>> approved. >> draft of an order in council authorizing the public seals, authorizing their respective public seals. lately in years. elsewhere than in the united kingdom to be made use of until new sales be prepared and their use duly authorized? >> approved. >> draft of an order in council. confirming your majesties witches. in relation to the sovereign grant act. 2011. to continue the tradition. of surrendering the hereditary mend news. including the crowd of states. to your government, to the benefit of all. in return to the sovereign grant. which supports your official duties. as head of state, and head of nation. the >> approved. >> drafts of two proclamations. one, appointing the day of her

late majesty state funeral. as a bank holiday in england, wales, and northern ireland. two, appointing the day of her late majesty's late funeral. as a bank holiday in scotland. and of two orders in council, directing the lord chancellor to affix the great sealed to the proclamations. >> approved. >> i now invite your majesties to sign both proclamations. >> listening to penny mordant, reading. that hillary it sounds very much like any council meeting. very dry, almost boring. belying the extraordinary

nature of what is actually happening here? >> well chris. this is something that is not modern word against many of us know. because it sounds so archaic. but the reason is, this privy council, this is the first time it's ever been photographed, video. and we've never seen it. the public has never seen anything like this. it does seem somewhat dry. but the warning comes very much from the tutors. very interesting, the first person who held the role of the penny more dense right there. we saw speaking. was henry the aids brother in law. this goes back to 15 40 or so. in which some of the wording is medieval. that's why it sounds archaic. and, think about this, when it's even the term. the bank holiday. when nothing was online, and everything was shot.

>> i now as the privy councilors at present to exit from the gallery. and invite you to sign the proclamation. which is laid out in the low corridor. thank you all for attending today. >> this is over for the council, but there is more to come. harold ours will file out onto the balcony at st. james violence and state trumpeters will sound a fanfare, camilla tell me as always, the brits know how to do these kinds of

things, both the seriousness of, it but the joyousness of the moment, and to contrast that tradition, it occurs to me as we saw. king charles and queen camilla standing there. the first full divorced man. the first queen who is also divorced. that they are also going to lead this monarchy into a more modern era? >> yeah. it's strange seeing these scenes in color. isn't it chris? because traditionally the last one we saw. we saw it again play out. it was in black and white, and characterized by the queens high pitched voice. when she carried out the procedures at the tender age of 25. yes, we have got a divorcee king. and the divorce he quickly. but then, i think that's probably going to make the royal family reflective. not only in modern britain, but the modern world. and this, perhaps, once controversial notion of referring to camilla as queen. it might not have been

contemplated 20 years ago. it certainly wouldn't have been, she was public enemy number one. following the death of diana, prince of welds. but i think there is been a general recognition that she has made charles a better man and. a happier man. and consequently a better king, and a happier king. it was interesting that he paid personal tribute to her again in the speech. despite the formality. referring to camilla as his beloved wife. but at the same time, this is reflecting the queens rain. she had her stay in prince philip by her side. for all those many years. this is not the sort of procedure that you would want charles to be carrying out by himself. without the woman that he loves by inside. and equally the endorsement, even at the wedding in 2005 of princess william and harry. there was a sense of they can except or as a grandmother. or stepmother. we should accept or not as queen. >> camilla, i know you have othered obligations. i want to thank you for

spending so much of this morning with us. as we watch the continued signing here. it's worth noting that the ink pot on the signature table at today's council was a gift. from prince william, and prince harry to king charles the third and rebecca, in many ways, this is because this is the monarchy, a family affair. and that we haven't seen harry. there is so much conversation about whether this will heal some of the wounds that has been so very clear within the world family. >> yes, and that's a lovely tidbit, i didn't know that. that's really wonderful. i think it's interesting the way that charles referred to harry and meghan yesterday. the fact that he said that he loved them. i thought that was almost a message to the watching world. let's not make too much of what's going on. harry megan is going to continue in their life in california.

and he wishes them the best. and he loves them. but, there is a family love there that remains. and perhaps it's passing the bill that helps heal the rift. and perhaps they will see that they need to come together. but harry and meghan staying in the uk for a lot longer. as they await the funeral. 12 and as it grows for william and, kate who, knows perhaps we'll see a bit of a change. in the coming days. >> and hillary i want to bring it back to here. because i was talking about, this to a former ambassador to the u.s.. and we see these crowds coming up. and yes a tribute to the queen, and yes they are leaving flowers all around buckingham palace where we are standing. but they're also anticipating. and we're watching some forces with police officers around them.

coming around the wall. now and the question is whether this now provides an opening, we've seen it on tape with this very well received speech yesterday, we've seen them out today for the first time speaking live as the new monarch of this country, and there does seem to be at least in the crowds that have made their way here, and openness and willingness to give him an opening to become more popular than he has been, often well down the list in opinion polls in popularity of members of the royal family. >> you're absolutely right there and one of the things i would say is that even in the american shopping, while even the americans must pronounce it as mao but you are right about the approval ratings and they were in the tank. he's never enjoyed more than 47% words the queen has always enjoyed more than 80% and prince william has always been in the 80s as well.

what would be very interesting, you're very right, is that last see after that well received speech where he embraced yes, harry and meghan, he offered his love to everyone, and it was a lovely olive branch. but he also spoke from his heart. and he was so many of the things that he reportedly rethought from the media at least that he wasn't. everybody who ever met in person, people know him. and say that he was reflecting on his real self. so to your point, yes. let's wait and see this week. i think it will be a fascination. whether those polls now go. it looks like they're going to go upwards. if the public's reaction to him thus far is any indication of the rest and it remains to be seen. >> and we're looking at now in london a preparation for another gun salute for the tower of london. this is what we're gonna see in the course of the coming days, and at least ten days and a

split screen between remembering and honoring queen elizabeth, but also honoring the new king. >> yes, you're right, and of course that's why when we're celebrating the platinum jubilee. the queen obviously had a very tough time. because when she ascended to the throne, had a loving father from the queen. so you're right again this is a contrast of emotions. yet i think the most important thing to do for all of us to witness across the world as an example. it's here we have the mother of democracy. we have the transition of power. that is peaceful. and that is so important to witness. in this very week. could you imagine any other time in history? just on tuesday. the same name, ironically, a very time in history that a prime minister and a moniker had a same name, that was on tuesday. when then queen elizabeth shook hands with liz truss the new prime minister, apiece fall

transition of power. and now we are seeing a peaceful transition of the essential counsel to the. thrown rather unique. >> yeah, there are so many first hear rebecca. so many ways in which this country is going to be adjusting to the new prime minister, to the new case. so, what we're gonna see in such a short time from now is the trumpeters coming out. the preparations that we're gonna see for the queen's funeral. the king traveling around and breeding his new subjects. all of that, how is that come together to help with his transition? >> yeah, i think it's that connection to our history. it seeing those tradition. if i pop it thoroughly that we love that we are so good at, we just saw it in the jubilee and i wonder if a lot of people as they sort out celebrations for

the queen also wondered if this is the last thing that we've seen her do. but now as we have this meeting, and just understand we have a new prime minister in the same week. he remembers all tradition that connect us to our path and keep us grounded and remind us that although there are two big changes this week, perhaps in the ground scheme of things, we are the same nation and lots of other things carry on. as charles said yesterday. let's keep things going. >> suzannah liscum trans us again. and if you have a chance, have you had a chance to watch the ceremony? as we listen to the reading of all of the things that the new king charles agreed to, even though many people view this, and it is not a legislative brawl, they view it as a largely ceremonial role. the queen may say something

influential, the queen with her stature made this role where it was very much new and influence that she had of the british people get. talk a little bit about that if he will. and the role that this new king will play. >> i think that's absolutely right, that the queen shaved the role in nature of the monarchy. and she shaped it so that the monarch operated soft power. which you probably heard a lot about in the previous days. professors definition of achieving outcomes by attraction of coercion are payments. the queen was the opinion of soft power. and, in all her dealings with our leaders across the world. she was someone who was able to achieve outcomes for great

britain by her own influence. whether that's the dance with that the president of ghana in 1961. which kept gone at the side of russia on the height of the coral war. or visiting ireland in thousand 11. shaking hands with maginnis of the ira. they call it the most trans formative diplomacy that they had ever seen. in all of these waves we see a queen who's personality, whose character, whose presence influence world events. and so, you're absolutely right. the constitution means that we do not have okaying who makes executive decisions. we do have a king who has the potential to subtly influence and change the course of world events through his own person. >> it's very early, obviously suzannah, but as you watch just

the way he's handled it so far, what is your thought about his ability to do that? there are so many comparisons obviously to the queen and it's fair to say that it's unfair to try to compare anybody to queen elizabeth the second. how do you think he's been doing so far? >> i think he's been doing pretty well. i think we are all amazed unimpressed actually. but how well he is doing. he has stressed continuity in his declaration there, in his speech, and also of course his address. yesterday. he's stressing how he is picking up the mantle from his mother. for a lifetime of their service to give all the time that remains to him. the grants to him, in service to his people. but, he is striking all the right notes. he has this natural mantle of

kinship. he seems majestic. but he also seems compassionate. he seems genuinely moved. and generally human and saying get these pens off the table. the slightly humorous and human. but at the same time, very much. very naturally taking on that. roll that his mother played. and, i think we see a king hair who has potential to be a very good thing inde and, we see somebody who is sensitive and intensive judgment, and thoughtful. and who, has let's be frank. trained the role for more than most of us have been alive. so i think he's going to do this justice. >> and i wonder, as a historian. your own thoughts and emotions seeing the inside of an accession council meeting the way that we did for the first

time in history? actually being able to watch it live. seeing so many of these events play out in color, and with the technology, i mentioned this before. people who are here and able to stand around their phones. and watch it as they wait and hope to catch a glimpse of the new king. from a historical perspective, are you a little to use that favor british word. a little bit gobsmacked? >> i actually found a very moving. to see it. i think it's exciting to have a glimpse into that throne room. it's so rare. it's not of the public. and to see that there and, so much of it was speaking to history, whether it was talking about the use of the privy seal. all of those things that the king had to approve. which were to do with the use of the field to authorize documents. it's harking back to a time when it was only the seal that

could organize something from the king in the government. or thinking about the proclamation of the king. which had to be done. verbally. we didn't have televisions, and mobile phones back in the 16th century so these things had to be done on town corners. i've seen in the announcement at the local town of oxford and there's gonna be a proclamation of the king tomorrow at the center of the city. and that is the traditional way of doing. and and of course it harks back to the union of 1707's wealth. whether church of scotland has its own arrangement with the monarchy. because it's not an episcopal church. and so, in all of these ways. we saw history coming alive. and for me as a historian, it was an amazing opportunity to witness this historic event. and have a glimpse back into the past. and all the times before this is happened. it's sapped this time we had a female. a president to the council. and we had a slightly more diverse county of people.

we're >> also with the social and political writer, and as a writer, let me ask you as we watch this extraordinary moment unfold. what would be your headline? >> a while. that was an incredible question. i was not expecting that at all. what next? i'm not a cop ahead today. >> and what next? that is a key question as we watch the new king. what will be next? obviously, so much of what he will be doing in the coming days is prescribed, but what he says, how he acts. how he interacts with his new subject, will tell us a lot won it? >> yes definitely. like you said. he has shoes to fill and there is a path and a way that has been set out for a long time.

so it's not as if charles has to reinvent the wheel. however, his relationship with the public in the united kingdom, the relationship with the commonwealth countries, and with the world. the way he presents himself. what he says, and does not say. even though we know that he won't wade into political issues. he does have thoughts and views on climate change and so on, and so forth. so some of that will be interesting to watch but it's really important for the continuity of the monarchy. that he does do a good job and manage the sensibly. he is not his mother. and i don't think he's as popular as his mother was. so he does have work to do. >> well, we are seeing both the herald airs filing out onto the balcony at st. james palace. the state trumpeters we are told, are about to sound the fanfare. we've been talking about the fact about how closely

choreographed all of this is. and how extraordinarily close to the timing the brits have been throughout this. they're running just a few minutes behind, but let's listen in right now. [noise] [noise] [inaudible] [inaudible]

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♪ ♪ ♪ whereas, it has pleased almighty god to call to his mercy our late sovereign lady, queen elizabeth the second of blessed and glorious memory. by who's decease, the count of the united kingdom of great britain in northern ireland is