hi everybody good afternoon. i'm yasmin bogey. we are going to continue to follow the morning for queen elizabeth and the story of today. two brothers, once again really

united in grief. this striking image at windsor castle, princess william and harry with our lives, appearing together, looking at flowers and greeting mourners as well. a show you a video that will be analyzing and dissecting for some time to come giving the estrangement we've seen play out on this public stage. we're being told that william the prince of wales -- was joined to warm the hearts of all around the world watching the events. the prince of wales also releasing his first statement just a short time ago about the passing of his grandmother saying that he was by his side in the happiest times as well as the saddest days of his life. the prince says that he is going to honor her memory by supporting his father, looking, in every way that he can. we have seen scenes outside of buckingham wearing king charles

iii a red earlier for a brief visit just a short time ago. we've now learned the date of the funeral for queen elizabeth has been set. the state funeral will be held just a week from monday. on september 19th, it will be followed by a procession through london for a surface by st. james chapel. the day will be a public holiday. for chiles today was the day he was officially proclaimed the king. though he took up that role as soon as his mother passed. he spoke about the debt that he owes to her. it >> my mother the gave an example of lifelong love and selfless service. my mother's rain was on a quote in its duration. its dedication, and its devotion. even as we grieve, we give thanks to this most faithful life.

i am deeply aware of this great inheritance end of the duties and have the responsibility as ypsilanti which have now passed to me. now >> certainly there has been a lot of activity underway across the uk and there continues to be over the coming days leading up to the funeral next monday. nbc's molly hunter is there with us, along with -- trying to stay on top of all of it. molly, let me start with you, the imagery i want to hold -- hone in on. the two brothers morning together. greeting people there together alongside both meghan and kate as well. images that we have not necessarily seen in some time because of some controversy surrounding the royal family. coming together, grieving their grandmother, now, together. talk to us about the scene that we saw play out a few minutes

ago. >> yeah, yasmin, we saw all four of them together. i want to give you a sense of the scene. we are at windsor castle, you see all these people came to lay flowers and pay their respects. just an hour ago thousands of people, and impossible to estimate how many people. they were lined up the long walk of windsor castle. we were told to expect some kind of visit. none of the press people would tell us exactly what was happening but rumors were rippling through the crowd. through those gates, range rovers pulled up. out came harry, meghan, the prince of wales and the princess of whales. all four of them together, all dressed in black. they walked very somberly down to the gate right here. notice they came in, the crowds erupted. they looked around at the flowers, they read some of the cards, and they walked down and started shaking hands. and yasmin, they started having conversations, they had meaningful moments with people.

they are shocked so many hands, they took so many flowers. we were talking to people about how do you make sense of a moment -- especially for an american audience -- how do you make sense of this as a national moment of mourning. but then you get to see the four most popular members of the royal family. you see these two brothers that the country has great affection for. you have all four of them together. one woman told us that she thinks absolutely this was the queen's final wish. this is what she would've asked for. this is what she would've wanted to see. certainly there was some goodwill there. but there's a lot of emotion. people were smiling, we have not seen that kind of smile in the last 48 hours in this country. >> how, molly, where they being received? you talk about how they feel as if this would have been the queen's final wish. but of course we did talk a little bit about the controversy surrounding these two brothers alongside their wives. how are they being received? first and foremost, and do you know about this conversation

that we're reporting, having gone down between the two brothers prior to this? to this walk? now >> they were received joyfully, absolutely. were receive>> applause, we werg about, we were talking about whether people with applause, yell out at them, and shear, when anyone of this for some shows up in public. we weren't sure if people would be respectful. but when all four walks through the gates, the crowd erupted in cheers. as soon as they started walking down, people were clapping, shouting, smiling, pushing up against the barriers. seeing the two barriers -- brothers togethers is incredibly special for people. two days ago when i was talking to people out on london streets about what it was like to see so many members of the queen's family -- people really mentioned how sad it was to see harry arrive alone. harry making his way from

london to balmoral, by himself, not with his brother, not with his uncles -- prince william arrived with his uncles at balmoral. and harry arrived by himself. there was sadness around harry's being by himself. to see all four together was a moment of re-assurance. these are the floor most popular members of the royal family. can giles has not enjoyed the kind of popularity that his son, the prince and the princess of whales into. this will reassure people. this will energize and galvanize people behind the monarchy. also, we are at winter, both families have cottages about five minutes from each other. the prince and princess of whales have moved their children out to the windsor estate. we know that harry and meghan have -- at the cottage, we cannot confirm if they are staying there. logistically, we're out of winter. all four of them are at with. are there about a five minute walk from each other. you have to hope that over the

next week or throw you do see more of them to gather and that maybe this is a sign of healing. >> these brothers have been through so much together having lost their mother at such a young age and now their grandmother having to live out their lives in the spotlight the way in which they have as well, it's bags to be said, it was the queen through all the controversy surrounding both harry and meghan as they left the royal family and moved here to the united states, it was the queen who is incredibly outspoken and supportive of them throughout the entire process. molly, thank you, if you would stand by for me. let me go to you, i know you are out front in -- a front of buckingham palace. you've been posting pictures on instagram as well. the well-wishers who have been arriving overnight. it seems like there are thousands of folks standing there behind you. waving at the camera. morning the loss of the queen there. i do understand as well cape

charles is not far from where you are right now. >> yasmin i didn't hear the last part of what you said. it's been mixed emotions. you can see the huge crowds behind me. we did see the king leave before, with the queen consort, huge cheers at buckingham palace. people not only morning the queen, but welcoming the king into his new era of rain. it's not just people here from the uk, people from all over the world have come here to pay their respects. i want to bring in this woman who is visiting here from brazil. we saw those images of the four gather together at windsor. what does this moment mean to you? you follow the news, your belly -- very familiar with the story. what does it mean for you? >> before anything else, they're a family. it's important to be together in this very difficult time. it's very difficult for all british people. but i think it's also very

important for the family being together and set aside all the differences that they have. i just happen to be here when it happened. >> why is it important for you to come out here and spent part of your vacation at buckingham palace? i heard the news and i read and -- i realized it's a very important moment. historically, i never imagined the world without the queen, because my whole life i lived, the queen was an iconic figure. i guess it's going to be part of this whole historical moment. >> thank you very much, i appreciated. we did hear the king in another address today. he did talk about the responsibility of the sovereignty pledging his life as his mother did to serving not only the station but also the commonwealth. yasmin, we also have more information about the processions we're going to see later this week as well as the

funeral. we know -- let me just get my information pulled up here. we know that the funeral is going to be on monday the 19th. we also know that the queen's coffin right now which is still in balmoral, will be moved to edinburgh for a brief period of michigan state. about 24 hours. and then the company will be moved through london, and then we'll see a family procession as the coffin's move to westminster, but it will be preceded by a lying in state as well. people can come and pay their respects. it will be a week of important events here, yasmin, it's all been in the works for decades. but we do know that the family will have reviewed the plans and fine-tune them, and make sure they're on point. >> thank you, for that adoring crowd behind you paying their respects there for the queen,

appreciate it. molly hunter, thank you as well. want to bring in now formal royal editor nick -- who has been sharing some excellent coverage and analysis of the queen and all that she has had to offer in the last 70 years of rain in what may become, going forward, when it comes to this monarchy and their future, tim welcome -- i want you to touch on the images that we saw just a short time ago of both harry and prince william alongside kate and megan. greeting more ignorance there, having personal conversations with every single person, shaking hands, of course, looking at the flowers that have been laid, the notes that have been written specifically to the queen, in light of her passing. what does this mean for the public watching these images? >> yasmin, it means a lot. we've got some pretty somber

days ahead just for the coffin of the queen being moved down -- from amber, back to london. preparations for a huge state funeral. today, most of the time the mood has been optimistic. a message has been sent out from this royal family. first of all about reconciliation, and secondly about accessibility. i watch the entire video of this, this walkabout by the two princes here. it was really quite extraordinary. the interaction that they had with the crowd. it was happy it was friendly. we talked in the last day or two about the modern royal family. being more accessible, being less stuffy and so forth. here they were. and the two of them together. it's clearly going to be the picture on the front page of tomorrow's newspapers, here, the reconciliation. but the message that was sent out is that we are optimistic.

we do want to be with you, the people. i think that's pretty encouraging. the thing thing happened, as you just heard, in the -- outside buckingham palace, for the second time, the new king lunged into the crowd, all smiles, handshakes. again, a big change in tone with this new monarchy. but, there are, as i say, some somber times coming up in the next week. i want to talk about the somber times in just a moment, but before we do, i want to talk about what we can expect in the coming week leading up to the funeral which will be held next monday. talk about the uphill obstacles that lay ahead. you and i spoke ahead -- before about when it was announced the clean -- the queen had passed. we talked about the unpopularity of prince charles, now king charles. and the obstacles that lay

ahead for him. because of this tone change that you're describing and that we are beginning to see, speak more what lay ahead for him and what he needs to do to ingratiate himself with the public? >> well, he's guy to win hearts and minds. that's the challenge for him. as you said, we've said many times, he's not the most popular member of the royal family, he suffered from some really bad publicity, indeed. that my census after seeing him in the last couple of days, the majority of british people will now be willing to give him a chance. i really do think that. on the other side, people would really rather -- hashtag, not my king, which is coming up on social media. getting a lot of traction there, i still think that's a minority. there is a republican movement here, but its followers are counted in the tens of

thousands. on the other side you will see hundreds of thousands of people riding the streets in the next few days. but he does face a big challenge. and he has a new prime minister as well. without going into the politics as well, she faces a big challenge. this is a time of extraordinary upheaval for this country. right now, everybody is focusing on the past. they are really talking about the queen that we've lost they assume that when things get back to normal the attention of the monarchy is going to be a little bit more critical. that's going to be hard for prince charles. he's going to have to prove that he can win the pop -- public over. >> let's talk quickly, if we can, about what happens when things get back to normal, the date of september 19th, when the funeral will be held, announced a couple of hours ago. the queen will lie in state before that, in westminster hall for four days leading up to the funeral. what can we expect to see on

that day? >> we can expect to see massive crowds. i covered a number of big royal occasions. on each location i was tempted to say it will not be like the last time, there will not be as many people -- i was wrong. we are less deferential than we used to be towards the royal family, but this is going to be huge. the queen is going to be lying in state at westminster, which is part of the houses of parliament for four days, or five days. that will be open to the public. when the queen mother lay in state there 20 years ago, hundreds of thousands of people try to get in. it will be the same, again. it will be a massive operation. the first state funeral that we've had since the funeral of winston churchill in 1965. there have been ceremonial funerals, but this is going to

be huge. the focus will switch from smiling walkabouts which we've seen in the last 24 hours to somberness reflection, a lot of public grief. and the really enormous operation to get this funeral organized and up and away. >> tim, let me ask you this. this is my naivete when talking, of course, about the funeral of a queen, had really not seen one before, obviously, since the screen has been in power now -- has been the head of this monarchy for the last 70 years -- will she be you -- eulogized at the funeral? and if so, by whom? >> by everyone. simply put. i don't know who's going to be able to speak at the funeral. we haven't seen a detailed plan yet. it will be attended by leaders

from around the world. joe biden is coming. it's going to be a massive event. you can expect an outpouring of tributes to the queen. it will be nonstop. there will not be, at this period, and in my opinion, rightly so, there will not be the kind of analysis that we've been talking about over the last 24 hours. the nation will come to a halt, it's a public holiday. everyone will be watching this on tv. the queen will be praised throughout the day. >> tim, we thank you, for now, you're not going anywhere. you are sticking with us. we appreciate that. coming up, by the way, presidential historian michael beschloss is going to join me with the relationships with u.s. leaders, some of them will be at the funeral that ten just talked about. and how that shaped the tires with one of our closest allies. also ahead in the next few hours, mourners in the united

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previous administration, have been very, very careful to make sure that there is no question about any kind of interference in terms of the decisions that the department of justice makes. >> all right, but let's -- let me try to go to 60,000 feet. what do you say to the argument that would be too divisive for the country to prosecute a former president? >> i think that our country is a country that has gone through different periods of time where you unthinkable has happened. where there has been a call for justice. justice has been served. and, i think that's potentially, going to always be the case in our country, that people are going to demand justice, and they rightly do. >> all right, that of course was the vice president in this exclusive interview with meet

the press host, chuck todd. -- the entire interview is going to air tomorrow morning. you're not going to want to miss the rest of. it this is coming as the doj and the former presidents legal team, they're continuing to butt heads over the special master. and surprisingly, new filings, the two parties seemingly to disagree on everything. including who should be, what they should be able to look at, for how long, and even on who's paying for it, right? doj and trump lawyers are set to appear in court this monday over these key issues including the department of justices request that the special master exclude 100 documents with top secret designation. i want to bring in jonathan allen, an msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. bring us up today, jonathan, first and foremost, walk us through what we're expected to see happen, take place monday, specifically. and really on these points of disagreement, all of the ones

that -- talk through who, what, where, and who's going to pick up the tab? >> that's a great introduction, yasmin. this filing, this joint filing from the government and former president trump's lawyers shows all these -- which they've had for quite awhile, one of the big ones here is the desire for the government to get moving as fast as possible. they want an october 17th date for the special barrister to wrap up. the trump team is looking for three months. three times as long. the other issues that they have here, the government wants the special master to only look at at unclassified documents as they try to push forward with an investigation into the classified section. the trump lawyers are fighting them on that because they basically don't believe that any of the documents are classified, in addition to that the government says that there are no documents that should be reviewed for executive privilege, because they don't believe the former president

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motion. what do you make of harry's thoughts here, joyce? >> i think harry is correct. what doj has done, and it's a really important, decisive strategy, is that they've carved out the hundred classified documents. this is the strongest part of doj's case. there is virtually no rationale for permitting -- let me just say -- there's absolutely no rationale for committing the former president to claim any sort of privilege, either executive, or attorney client in documents that are created by the intelligence community, and the judge will have to confront the fact that her earlier order has shut down an intelligence community review that has now national security implications because she failed to understand that the fbi is an essential part of that review. the fbi can take domestic investigative steps that none of the other agencies in the intelligence community are authorized to do. the cia does not have the

latitude to operate inside of the domestic united states, that the fbi has. so what has amazingly enough happened here is that the national security already compromised by the former president, it is further compromised by judge karen's order. she will have to decide whether to fix that are not. >> and, jonathan, you're reporting suggests she will, or she will not? >> [laughs] that's the 64,000 dollar question. to joyce's point, legal experts were shocked at the original order. and again, she has an opportunity to fix that in a way that i think most legal experts would say is more consistent with both the law and the national interest. we don't know what she's going to do. she hasn't been on the bench for very long. appointed by former president trump himself. i think we'll have to wait to see which he does. >> you actually contributed, jarred and then, to a great piece about how the former president suggested that these

documents were for the presidential library. he wrote that trump has wanted to leave an impression that his focus has shifted to his legacy some close to him say. what more can you tell us? expand on this. >> there's attention, here, right? the idea that he brought these documents to his home so that you could put them in a presidti library suggested he doesn't think he's gonna be president again. others folks close to him that say that's part of his thought, it's not very good for his pr in terms of a potential future presidential candidate candidacy. it sounds like he's not running if he's thinking about his past, his legacy, and putting together a library. it also falls a little bit short on the left test which is, of course, that if you want to have documents for a presidential library, you would do that through the national archives administration, which we've been talking a lot about. all the other presidential libraries have documents that

have been reviewed or housed by them -- the idea that he had to take them out in the middle of the night from the white house to make sure they would be in the library is absurd. >> joyce, you talk about the damage that's been done throughout this entire process, alluding to the damage you believe was done during the four years in which the former president was the president of the country. you wrote, trump did plenty of damage to our institutions during our his four years in office casting aspersions on any entity involved in the legitimate oversight of his conduct. now he's doing it again. how do you brent some of this, joyce? >> this is always trump's strategy. when he's under attack, or under legitimate review for his conduct, his reaction is to lash out, at law enforcement, at the intelligence community, a congress, whoever scrutinizing his behavior becomes the target. that's dangerous for anyone who has an oversized megaphone

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villa jardin were among those who paid a visit, delivering flowers, and the president sending a message to the queen he first met back in 1982 as a senator. that is where we are joined by nbc's gary -- thanks for joining us on this. talk to us about you've been hearing from people about -- when they arrive at the embassy to pay their respects. >> yasmin, the united kingdom has been thought of as the oldest and strongest ally of america. it's not just thought of by the way by the politicians, but it's thought of by the people who live here, people who loved the queen, respected the queen, woke up at 4 am to watch the royal family festivities, weddings, funerals. there's been tributes pouring in from around the country. politicians of all stripes, celebrities around the country. the empire state building was in sparkling blew the other night. the yankee statement, i'll turn john, harry styles, who held concerts held tributes for queen elizabeth the second.

one thing i'm hearing from folks who have been talking to today is that they really appreciated the resiliency and the honor of the queen and how -- what a great human being she was. take a listen to some folks i talked to today. >> the royal family was a human family. they had their flaws, they had their conflicts, they had their squabbles, the sibling squabbles. and yet we watch them whether tragedy after tragedy. i admired the queen so much for her resilience, her fate, her tread greedy, her grace. >> i'm a christian, and christiane indeed today needs the grace that the queen had. that is how she lived her life. to me she is a role model of what we as people should be in

a world that is very fractured. >> and we are 3600 miles away from buckingham palace right now, but you really do feel that connection to the queen and the royal family. i want to show you this right here, this balloon that says, love you grandma. that's one of the hundreds of mementos that's been placed here on the union jack flag outside of the british embassy. it speaks to the idea that folks here really love her. love her like a family member. they do feel like they have lost a family member. he has been? >> all right gary, we appreciate it. so, the queen's presence on the world stage, it has been a part of life for millions around the world over the last 70 years, including here in the united states, as gary de spoke to us about, when she first ascended the throne back in 1953, america was just emerging as a major world power. relations were better than ever following world war ii.

the queens rain which saw that relationship strengthen over the decades. four u.s. presidents, meeting the queen became a staple of the presidency. 13 commander-in-chief either traveling to britain, or hosting her here. i want to bring in presidential historian michael -- it is incredible, michael, as we talk about the history of this queen and her history with the relationship with the united states, the imagery, the presidents that she has met over time, and the fact that so many of these men, right? the leader of the free world -- when meeting the queen, became somewhat of a voice, knowing somewhat to an extent that they were meeting royalty, someone that they'd seen on the world stage for so long before they become president. >> you're absolutely right. it was almost legitimizing.

it was almost as if a american president was not a president until he had met the queen of england. that was for two reasons. number one, she was popular around the world, in the uk, and especially in america. i think if you looked at her key rating compared to other american political figures, she probably was the equal or better of most of them. but the other thing is that american presidents knew that when the doors closed and they had a private meeting, they could have a talk with her. what they said would go no further. she could draw on that, not only 70 years as clean, but even before that, as a princess during world war ii, starting with winston churro chill as queen in 1952 when she was only 25 years old. and this was someone who said herself that she didn't have a very elaborate education. she was a very smart and treat women with a great memory so that, you know, if say jimmy

carter carter that we see on this screen right now talk to the queen, he would be able to hear her say, you know, eleanor roosevelt once told me, or i remember the british economy had its problems in the 1940s -- who else could provide that advice? at the same time they are all these amazing stories about relationships between american presidents and british queens. the queen mother, the mother of the queen who just died this week, when she said when she met jimmy carter in 1977, after which he said, that was the first time that a man has kiss me on the lips since the death of my dear husband in 1952. it goes both ways. >> it's fascinating, because, we get this history book of interactions that the queen had with various presidents in the past as we prep for these

moments in time, and there is this moment that is described when jimmy carter met with the queen back in, i believe that was 1977, as i'm looking at the date here, and breaking protocol by kissing the queen mother instead of taking about. i can only imagine -- you think about, right, michael? -- the tradition, how they are such traditionalist. they are based upon that. so much of what people love about the royal family and what they look forward to in motion -- moments of celebration and morning, and i say look forward to in the sense of pomp and circumstance. they know how to celebrate lives in waves as well. and yet, that moment may have been, it must of been so off putting for the queen mother. >> that's exactly right. he has been, we can wait because the queen as you may

know, it is said that every single day she would write in her own hand, in her secret private diary which he really saw and heard and felt. this is something that will not be open for a very long time. but sunday we will actually know this gracious, almost silent person, the way she reacted to things like jimmy carter kissing her mother on the mouth. >> michael, quickly here, do you worry that this reverence for the royal family, for members of the royal family in the uk, this idea that presidents when they become president, wanting to meet the queen, that that will dissipate a bit with the change to king charles? >> probably. no one is going to have the position in the uk or the united states that queen elizabeth the second had. not in this age of social media and tabloids.

one reason why she was regarded with such a was not only herself, you need distance to land majesty. these weighs -- days, as you well know, not many figures have distance from the public. the same time, the reassuring thing for king charles is that he knows almost everything that she knew over 70 years, and he's had a history with american presidents himself, going all the way back to richard nixon in 1970 who believe it or not try to marry him off to his daughter trisha. had that succeeded, we wouldn't be talking -- we would be talking about a different queen today, an american. >> we certainly, would quite a different story. michael beschloss, thank you as always, great to speak to you in moments such as this. our coverage continues ahead, as night falls at buckingham palace. live pictures there, as we go to break. we'll be right back.

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