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and more. and another hour of velshi begins right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good morning to you in the sunday, september 11th. it is 8 am in new york city. a sacred hour on the sacred day. 46 minutes from now, the country will observe the moment of silent to observe the moments that a plane struck the north tower at the world trade center 21 years ago today. the first in a series of terrorist attacks that day that changed the world. people are gathering at the world trade center memorial nowhere man not had ten right now, many of whom lost 11 on this day and 2001. there will be five other moments of silence this morning as well as the traditional reading of the victims names. president biden is currently on his way to the pentagon, where
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he will take part in a wreath laying ceremony and give remarks for the victims of 9/11. -- it is also a day of numbers in the value kingdom, a country in a period of national mourning following the death of queen elizabeth ii. a few hours ago her casket departed belmont, the scottish state where she died on thursday at the age of 96. right now, you can see it here, her body is being transported by hearse to the monarch's official residence in edinburgh, scotland. a trip that on normal circumstances takes two and a half hours, it will today take six hours because of the crowds. the procession will slow down. you can see it on your screen moving from left to right. the lead car, the lead car in black has a casket with a glass covering on the back where you can see the casket covered in royal heraldry. it will be a first --
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back to london to for the public to pay the respects starting wednesday, september 14th. her casket will remain there until monday morning, september 19th, when her funeral will be held. presently, members of the royal family are scattered around the united kingdom. he charles's been in london since friday, taking part in events and services to formalize his accession atop the british monarchy. his siblings, the queen's younger children were seen outside of -- yesterday greeting people in the tributes that were left inside the gates. prince charles's son have appeared in public with their wives outside of windsor castle yesterday afternoon. william in kate, now the prince and princess of whales and harry and his wife meghan markle spent 40 minutes shaking hansen speaking with a large crowd that had turned out to pay respects to their grandmother. it was the first time that the two couples had been seen together in public since 2020, a amid a reported falling apart starting a few years ago. in a way the discord between
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the brothers reflects this the future of the monarchy itself. we'll press william prepares one data be carrying -- has expressed his own disillusionment about the royal family. him and meghan stepped away from the duties as royals and with in an interview with oprah winfrey last year he said that he felt trapped within the system like the rest of his family. my father and father are trapped, they don't get to leave. i have huge compassion for that. and quote. joining me on throughout the rest of the show is katie turner, she proportion i missed and bc. she is standing by outside the gates of buckingham palace in london. katie? >> and in fact the talk about william and harry and kate and megan is the cover of all of the front pages right now in london. you can see right here. i look to the side because the king, king charles iii is now passing by to the around about heading to buckingham palace. you can tell it's him because
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the royal standard is flying above that car. i have not been able to catch eclipse inside of it because of just the sheer number of people lining the way. >> we can see it from here, the cameras do have it. >> oh great. it is going quite slowly. yesterday we did see him do a walk about with the consort, kamila. he did one a few days ago warning after his mother's died, reading people. there is a moment where a woman said may i kiss you? he said yes and she kissed him on the cheek. the moment of tenderness between the new king and a member of the british public. he has a very busy schedule, today, ali. today he meets with members of the parliament, a member of the opposition party, other cabinet members. it's beginning the politics, even though he's not involved in politics technically. the politicking of his job. tomorrow he will be headed up to edinburgh, scotland, to see
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his mother's coffin and to stand vigil by her side for one last time there in scotland before that coffin travels down to london. here is king charles, by now, in that car. it appears -- i can tell from where i'm standing where they're headed, if they are headed back inside the gates. >> they are going inside the gates. the car carrying king charles has just entered the gates of buckingham palace and of course there is a large protegee of cars inside all entering the gates now. >> yes. so the top today, as you were mentioning before, he wbre,, kate, megan. it's on the cover of practically every newspaper in the country. there's reporting about how that meeting came to be. as you are saying, ali, it's so important for the royal family
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to present a united front. the royal family believes it is, in order to maintain the continuity of their leadership. very vocally, harry in the past has had he felt trapped by his role in the monarchy. that he wasn't able to live a normal or authentic life, it's part of the reason that he and meghan stepped back as senior royals here and did not feel supported by the royal family. they made some pretty ugly allegations about lava said, about the potential what witnesses said about the skin color of their child archie before he was born, when meghan was pregnant. it does remind us of the complaints that prince charles had when he was prince had many years ago in his marriage to diana. very famously wanted to marry camilla. diana was a marriage that was, in some ways, forced upon him. the drama that ensued from there, this unhappy marriage, there's unhappy pairing of two
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people and what happened then after diana's death. a low point for the monarchy in a low point for queen elizabeth when she didn't immediately come out and address her death to the public, which was morning so vocally and mourning the loss of something they had really connected with. when she did finally come back, her approval numbers, popularity, began to rise again. when charles married camilla in the early 2000s after her death, it has been more than a decade process of repairing her reputation here in the united kingdom. to the point where, just recently, before the queen died she made it clear that kamila would be queen consort. she was never, by the way the princess of whales, a title bestowed to catherine. kate middleton, prince william 's wife. they are near the prince and princess of whales. camilla was never the princess
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of whales though she had a right to that title at this being married to the prince of wales. some backroom discussion somewhere someone decided that wouldn't be a good idea to hand her the title that diana once had. it is a solemn day here in this country, ali. it is also a complicated time. you have to remember that on monday, monday just six days ago, there was a prime minister boris johnson and the queen elizabeth. today, sunday, there is a prime minister lays trusts and a king charles. a lot as happened. >> those main ecstatic way to the next conversation, we'll come back to you shortly, joining me is dave miliband she is a secretary for the kingdoms. ceo of the international rescue committee and international humanitarian aid organization. david, i think that's a perfect place to pick up this conversation. many times during queen elizabeth's reign, through many
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many british prime ministers, there were times of trouble. while she tried to remain a political she did try to exercise a role as a counselor through some of these prime ministers. great britain, right now, is going through remarkable tore moye all. instability in the conservative party, the ruling conservative party. a brand-new, untested prime minister who has changed her position on many things. potential tension there with northern ireland and inflation the highest and it has been in decades. this is not an easy time to assume the mantle prime minister. it is not -- it sort of matters less working charles lowe moment because his job is not as closely tied to the politics of the nation. britain is a country in trouble at the moment. >> britain is a country that is obviously enormously challenged, but it's also a country that manages to take political del isn't,'s political arguments,
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with this continuity of the monarchy and the continuity of the head of state. it is a very interesting combination. the outpouring support and sadness about the death of queen, the commitments to have a true smooth transfer of monarchy authority to than a king, it has been across the political spectrum there are people who don't have to be a monarchist to just think that queen elizabeth was an exemplary monarch. to hope that some of the best quality she embodied, grace, commitment, openness, an ability to change. she did show that in the course of her 70 years. but they continue to be practiced by prince charles. in my experience of him, he is a very committed to his previous job as the air of the throne at the time. it happens as a patron of the international rescue committee
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in the uk and for all of his terrible activities, the national -- seriously. all that continues. the point i would make to an american audiences that, underneath that, that unity is not there to submerge the book will division is there in a constitutional monarchy to allow and encourage political debate and argument. to your opening question, britain does have massive challenges that the new government has taken, but is not the jobs of kings and queens to put out interest rates, change tax rates, deal with energy crises. that is the job of politicians. >> what is the state of the uk? you have a remarkable perspective. you spent a long time in the united states, you understand what we are going through here in terms of political division. there is political division in the united kingdom, but it doesn't resemble our israeli, in the united states. does monarchy have any role in that? or suggest different in the u.s. right now? >> i think it's very different. the immediate parallel is
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between the republican party that has moved in the radical direction you cover a lot, and the conservative party as the name indicates should be conservative but a conservative party which has been associated with some of the biggest ruptures and british life. most notably, brexit which you covered before the ace block headlines. also, a sense that conservative party is on the attack against civil service, judiciary, a range of others. there is a parallel where that of course can find the u.s. and uk. we're living in a time when right-of-center politics is more radical, left-of-center politics has become more divided. the challenge for the uk is that it has some particularly national issues that it had to deal with as well as the global issues that the rest of our country trying to deal with. we are on a new government that requires years before general
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election. -- we are covering. the conservatives, meh -- now unelectable leader, terry corbin, for 2019. our political system is in some flax. inflation is high, energy prices are skyrocketing, there is times that the nation has to find a new footing. >> what, in this range of issues that you have articulated -- i just want to say this because americans look at their situation and say, wow things are really tough here with political division and inflation and all that. these are tough in the uk, france, lots of places with political division and inflation. the war in ukraine in the struggle with this that you are so directly connected with, what to do with you refugees not from eu only ukraine but other countries. what's the slightly more political king charles play in any of this stuff? he does he has had public roles that are marginally more political. he has made statements
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marginally more political than his mother ever did. >> charles, king charles, has passions for real causes. he has been an environmentalist since well before it was fashionable. i he's taken on the humanitarian role in these rescue -- we've taken in monowitz to refugees in georgia, to come on approachable visit to 1 million new nutrition clinic in africa. all of this speaks to someone who is a real human being. all as of his constitutional role he can play no political role at all. he can be counselor in private. among other things, but i had to do as secretary was before every trip, the queen makes a -- show you talk to her about it. she always knew more than i did, of course, with the experience she had she was able to bring that to bear. i was there for advice. i went on those trips with her. to be a counselor to we have a
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moment but to him we are a constitutional monarchy, not a parliamentary democracy. it is parliament that has the blame for the state of our politics, in some ways the state of our nation. the monarch placed a different role in the system. that role is very much a private role and -- even though every ministers called -- in every member of parliament swears allegiance to his majesty. >> david, good to see you again. thank you for contacts on this. david miliband is a former uniting secretary and ceo of the very important international rescue committee. as we're britain mourns the loss of the queen -- marking the anniversary of september 11th terrorist attacks. coming up next we'll have a live report lower mifflin, new york city. york city. ♪ upset stomach, diarrhea. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief... when you need it most. my most important kitchen tool? my brain.
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september 11th attacks. nearly 2000 people people died that day, most in new york city. after two hijacked planes hit world trade center towers in manhattan. -- lives are lost after a plane flown into the pentagon in virginia and a fourth plane crashed into a field in pennsylvania after its passengers fought back. all around the country, americans have gathered to honor those who lost in the very first responders who rushed in to try to help. president biden is expected to lay a wreath at the pentagon memorial this morning. nbc's -- alice is at the memorial in new york. give us a sense one's happening where you are and how people are sort of responding today on this 21st anniversary? >> for sure. good morning, ali, as you saw there in a moment to go people are gathering here for our members of what happened on 9/11. vice president harris arrived here with the second gentleman not long ago and they will be
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participating in the memorial service along with other dignitaries. other dignitaries will not be speaking, as is tradition. this is a time to hear from the family and loved ones as they read the names of nearly 3000 people who died on that horrible day. the majority of those people died here in new york at ground zero. it is a somber day as people come together for this remembrance. also, part of i think what's happening right now at this time, ali, some 21 years after that terrorist -- those terrorists attacked this. people are still dying from 9/11. some cancers that have developed, which doctors have determined are non--related cancers. people are finding that one of the things that is happening is that the fund for the firefighters, the first responders, firefighters, police officers, and medics. that fund has been secured by they didn't know that there is
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also a 9/11 victims fund, for those who lived, worked, and went to school in this area 21 years ago. now they find some of them are coming up with cancers. it is -- we're encouraging people whether they have symptoms now or not to register -- another thing people are talking about, quickly, is that we say never for yet. some of the monuments built to remind people of what happened are struggling to stay open. attribute museum adjacent to the 9/11 memorial and museum, a close clip completely because it couldn't afford to stay open due to a lack of visitors during the covid area. just didn't have enough money to pay its rent. a 9/11 memorial and museum has had to lay off about 60% of its staff because of a difficulty in keeping funds to keep the planes open. some wonder how we will be able to remember. how will we teach our children
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those who have no living memory of what happened here about what happened here. some of these precious museums are finding themselves struggling to stay open. ali? >> it is a ploy ignorant reminder of how this isn't over. we think about is estelline the past, 21 years ago. perhaps the terrorist threat has diminished, but for the lives of the people who lost family members or first responders, this is very much a current issue. right? thank you for being there. we will come back to a little later in downtown manhattan. americas post-roe present, a major court ruling regarding reproductive rights in michigan. i will speak to secretary state and attorney general next on a special edition of velshi.
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been rejected by the state supreme court. voters will determine the fate of abortion rights in michigan, this november. a little while ago estate canvassers, four people, deadlocked on county line's to certify a ballot measure to add an amendment change in china and abortion rights into the michigan constitution. two on the board voted against adding it to the constitution based on a challenge by on abortion rights group citing that there was not sufficient space between words on the text of the proposed amendment. i'm not making the stop. the argument was not good enough for five of the seven supreme court judges. in one, i don't wrote, -- michiganders signed this proposal. more than have ever signed any proposal in michigan's history. the challengers have not produced a single signed or who seems to have been confused by the limited space thing's actions in the full text portion. two members of the board state
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of canvassers would prevent the people of michigan from voting on the proposal, because they believe the discreet east spacing makes the text no longer the full tax. the 5 to 743, 000, 759 people signed the petition bodes well for chance of passing in michigan and office sign that voters are energized by the abortion rights issues this year ahead of midterm elections two months from now. joining now are is joshua mentone and attorney general they -- thank you. you are both regular gas on velshi but i don't believe you have already won at the same time. that is how important an issue with this. is secretary -- let me start with you because we talked about this last week. northern michigan supreme court has weighed in and allow the initiative to weigh in on the balance, does this give you comfort and optimism about abortion rights in michigan? >> yes. thanks for having me back not only does it give me optimism
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that the people of michigan will have the rightly placed opportunity to weigh in on this and the voting rights opportunity in september. it also understands underscores the lane in which canvassers must continue to sit and certify elections, candidates, and look at the number of signatures and certify petitions. that is the role. to go beyond that and further some sort of policy and partisan interest is the course julie noted, that it exceeds the bounds of their authority. >> attorney general as we saw in kansas earlier this year there are antiabortion groups out there that are willing to engage in deceptive tactics to confuse people and prevent them from voting on abortion rights measures. beyond what some might call a ridiculous challenge regarding word space, saying is there more to come on this front from groups that do not want this initiative to pass? >> yes, absolutely. we've already started to see the beginning of that. in these groups that are anti
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proposal there at, which is the number for this particular proposal they have already demonstrated that they are willing to go to any lengths to lie about the contents of this proposal. and if i can give you quick examples, they keep on talking about abortions up until the day of birth. and you know we have an evidentiary hearing in regards to one of our abortion case is an effort to ensure that the 1931 very draconian anti abortion law that criminalize abortion in michigan could not go into effect. our chief medical officer testified that out of 28,000 abortions that took place last year only two were post what you would normally call viability and both of those cases involved situations where the woman would have died into the child never would have survived. so that is not something that we see now. in fact it is not going to
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change after this ballot proposal becomes law. but then there is this other host of lies that those who oppose this proposal are willing to engage in and disseminate to the public and i do not think it is going to work. >> secretary benson i want to talk with you you talk about michigan and wisconsin which many of these things having to do with democracy and freedom right now are hinging on, and local initiatives. things that do not operate at the state level or operate with these groups like the board of canvassers. one of the two republican members of the border state, brigitte mccormack wrote the following. even though there is no dispute that everywhere the piers and appears legibly and in the correct order, and there is no evidence that anyone was confused about the text, two members of the board of state canvassers with the power to do so would keep the petition from the voters for what they report to be a technical violation of the statute. that's what it disenfranchise
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millions of michiganders not because they believe that many thousands of michiganders who signed a proposal work infused by us, but because they think they have identified a technicality that allows them to do so. a game of gotcha gone very bad. what a sad marker of the times, and quote. this is the reality of our world and something you and i have discussed a lot. there are rights being taken away by unelected people small groups of people by partisans, the don't really take into consideration the rights that need to be sure by all of society. >> we are the law. the law is very clear. the border has a legal duty to evaluate the signatures in place something on the ballot and not go beyond that. it's the same thing that we heard last week that this is a flag for what we could expect in november for the election where they lure choirs a board of canvassers to certify the outcome of the election, even if they don't like the outcome. it is a similarly concern that
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we have and i think the court sends a message here therefore they were to charge the something again in november or any other future incident, the court will quickly reject that expansion up their authority, and make sure they stay in their lane and do their job and follow the will of the voters. >> attorney general -- another ruling from the past week. a court of claims judge ruled that abortion bans that were on the book in 1932 and it was unconstitutional. in her ruling she wrote, quote, manifestly criminalizing abortion will -- access to mainstream health care service. for 50 years, michiganders have freely exercise the right to safely control their health in the reproductive destinies by deciding when and whether to carry a pregnancy to term. eliminating abortion access will force pregnant women to forego control of their own -- integrity of their own bodies, regardless of the effect on their health and lives. an appeal is likely. what is your thoughts on what
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that appeal looks like? is that one solution? or is ballot measure the better solution? but >> we have two cases that are making their way to the courts. they won that you just referenced and another case that will be opening the circuit court is being appealed. my thought is that what is most likely is that while these courts are issuing the preliminary injunctions which unfortunately will keep abortion safe and illegal for now until the election is certified, i think all the courts who are facing this issue agree that they would rather see the voters have their say and when that occurs it is so likely that these ballot proposals will be successful. then abortion and many other rights will automatically be enshrined into michigan constitution at that point. and then these court cases will be wranglers mute.
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in the meantime, it is very important that we have these rulings so that we do not have an interruption in services. fortunately because of two different courts having issued those rulings, the law will remain the same as it was pre-jobs at least until the voters out there say. >> thinking about the you for joining, us it is a pleasure to have you both on this really important. issue michigan attorney general -- nasa. coming up, crucial health program for 9/11 survivors that is supposed to last through the, year's 2019, might not make it 2025 unless congress takes action immediately. if you have not noticed that is not his strong. straight talk to one republican congressman when he crossed the aisle to make this happen. first, i want to check in quickly with katie, tara who was standing by in london. katie, what you got going on there? there are still lots of crowds here even though there isn't much happening in the vicinity
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of buckingham palace. we saw the king drive by a moment ago, but the queen's coffin is still in scotland. the king will travel there tomorrow to pay his respects. then on tuesday the coffin will come back down to here in london, there will be a procession on wednesday which will be alive and public. public showing of mourning for the royal family and all those still landing surrounding it. the funeral, ali, who will be officially on monday the 19th. between that time we will be lying in state. they expect tens of thousands, tons of people to show up and say goodbye. next hour i'm speaking with hollywood acre, a royal studies historian for the university of winchester. we will talk about queen ships and the role of women in power. stick around for that. or that. as a dermatologist, i want what's best for our skin. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at home.
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40 6:21 years ago. where flight 11 hit the world tower of the trade center. you are watching the memorial which has been going. on their arm whilst today here in new york, in the, pentagon in shanksville, pennsylvania. those are three locations where the airplanes hates. their oxymoron to the country but obviously the one in new york is the one we are showing you right now. vice president kamala harris is there in attendance, as our other first responders. a family of those who have died, and vice president harris you can sort of see the trees in the middle of this screen, blocked by somebody. what they are doing is stopping any words. the bell is ringing. now in under 30 seconds we will
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observe a moment of silence. let's listen in now ensure that moment of silence, the 21st anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> 21 years ago at this moment,
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the attack on america began. it was not a piece of history for us now, still a very active struggle especially for some of the people who are still struggling from the health effects of what happened that day. how much talk about that right. now joining me is the republican congressman andrew governor of new york, who is written a letter to the enduring congress committee demanding attention for the world trade center health program which is currently set to run the funding in the air. congressman good to see you. thank you for being with us. first of all, your thoughts. this is 21 years ago and we are living with the active effects of it, particularly more so than in our threats to democracy and freedom than we are in the health threats that are faced by those people who are still affected by them. >> it's amazing. 21 years ago, and it still feels like yesterday for. me i can remember it like yesterday. but the fight is not over. as you said, the long-lasting
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health effects and medical effects from that day are still with us, and they keep giving works just in the last three years. a number of people diagnosed with 9/11 related cancers have doubled over the last three years. the problem is not getting better it is getting worse and we in congress need to make sure that those hearse responders, people that were there that day in the weeks afterwards on the pile, are taken care of. >> this is not the day i really want to talk politics. but i do want to ask, you because you would like a bipartisan solution to this and you have written to the head of the energy and congress committee to do that. there was an effort to put this in the build back better bill and the republicans did not want it there. they wanted as a stand-alone. bill can you explain that to me? >> there are a couple of technical fixes that are necessary in the current bipartisan bill, along that with congresswoman maloney and congresswoman -- there are some technical fixes
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as well as a study bill that focuses on the effects of people, of, children that day that work down there. those two items, the technical fixes and the study, could not be fixed in the original build back better legislation. so this bill is going to need to be passed anyway. right now there is a bipartisan, effects it's the one that currently sponsor. so i would love to see they, chairman pleading with him which was committed to move the belt forward. so we can get this thing in, and our first responders don't have to worry about whether they are going to have the health care that they deserve and need in two years. >> what is the likelihood of either your bill or something that resembles it moving forward in the bipartisan basis? because obviously if it does the bill gets passed in his parlow gets solved. >> exactly. if this bill was put on the floor this, week we are returning to congress session this week, it was one on the floor it would pass. so i hope that i'm pleading with the majority, i'm in the minority right. now we can't control what comes
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to the floor. that is why we are sending these letters. these are bipartisan letters to move this legislation. like you, said if it comes to the floor it would pass, i hope it sets a stand-alone bill but as of right now i would take it if it was part of the nba or maybe the finding bell. we just needed to get done. in needs to get done this year. >> just to be clear, you would support this in any fashion that gets it done. politics aside. you are prepared to put aside the fact the republicans and democrats do not vote on a lot of things together the house these days? >> like i, said if this bill came out this week by itself, it would pass. but it needs to get done. and needs to get done anyway possible. now because the longer we put it off, the more that these men and women, these first responders the firearm and these cops these transit workers who are on the pile,
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don't know if they're gonna have the treatment that they need. it's a very important issue which i talked to people about every day. i still have constituents getting sick and getting diagnosed with not just cancers but respiratory illnesses as well as mental health. there are a lot of people that are still getting mental health treatment because of what they saw that day. so the most important there not republican not democrat is getting this bill done. which is putting 100 percent right time on it right now. >> is there any resistance to it for many quarters? >> right now the conversation we have, everybody seems to be supportive of the bell. we cannot get it seem to be brought up for a vote. that is where i don't understand where the pushback is coming from. i don't know who is keeping this one coming to a vote. like i, said it is up to the democrats right now because they control both the house and the senate, to move this legislation. if this came down as a stand-alone bill, i imagine it
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we're cast overwhelmingly in both houses. >> you have a senior democrat on their committee who share their, view and are asking democratic leadership as well to bring it to you about. >> the last time i spoke with congressman maloney she was pushing to have this bill brought to a vote. asap. i believe even senator schumer across the senate would like to see the bill passed soon. it is up to him how he brings it up in the senate. but in the house, there are members of the democratic party that also want to see this bill passed as soon as possible. >> we are watching the ceremony and lower manhattan right now in new york city. we are all, so we understand that the president has arrived at the pentagon where he is going to lay a wreath. the sequence of events this morning with respect to 9/11 memorials is that the president will lay this reef. there will be another moment of silence at 903. this one marking flight one 75 into the south tower. we are heading to the pentagon right. now one 75 in the south tower,
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9:03 am 21 years ago. then it will be a little while until 9:37 am. where flight 77 hit the pentagon that you are looking at right now. the president will make remarks at the pentagon at 9:59. and there will be yet another moment of silence to mark the moment in which the south tower of the world trade center fell. representative arbery, now you introduced a resolution to teach a 9/11 curriculum to school children. what would you teach? what would be in that? >> you know, here in new york we are required to teach. it it's about what happened that day, would have until the lead up to that day. the men and women who responded, the fireman and police officers and port authority officers. just making sure that it is
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kept as part of the curriculum. because it's not -- it's not really, passes 21. yes but it's also not recent history. it's something in between we need to make sure people don't forget. we've always had never forget. >> -- >> there are a lot of -- anybody in high school now is not alive when this happened. i was in high school, i was a senior in high school in this app. and i will never forget. it but there are people in high school now that might not understand what happened. especially across the country where it is maybe not as fresh. in new york we still have people getting sick every day from the 9/11 illnesses. so other switches it would be great to have them realize that we are still dealing with this tragedy. 21 years later. was to be dealing with a 50 years later. and it's just very important that it's -- just like pearl harbor. it's one of those things that everyone should know in u.s. history. >> you bring up two moments in
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which americans were surprised by something and then rallied around the things that they would do to defend their freedom. and their rights. i am curious as to your take about the moment we are in now. we still face threats to our democracy and freedom in the united states. but it is not an external threat, it's not like pearl harbor were harper it was a japanese or 9/11 where it was terrorists in afghanistan. how do you think about that? because we are gonna teach this to kids that it is a current threat that we need to think about as well. >> yes. i would not say that our threats to democracy are not external. i know there are still external threats to our way of life as americans. so it is a continuing crisis that we have to deal with, making sure that our lives as americans are protected. whether that is from people who are trying to harm us from abroad, or domestically.
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so it is absolutely something that we should continue to focus on. but when you look at 9/11, it is probably the reason why some of the health care push has been difficult to get members to sign on to. people do not realize that everybody is still getting sick. 21 years ago i thought this was taken care of. i have to talk to my colleagues from other states and say, hey, no. people are still getting sick. here still getting sick in virginia. still getting sick because of -- pennsylvania. and by the, way for hundred and 34 of the 435 seats, congressional seats, how somebody is part of the world trade center health plan. so it effects almost every congressional district in the country. this is why i am pushing for both this health care bill as well as the 9/11 curriculum in schools. >> -- thanks for being with us to talk about this and to mark this important anniversary. let's stick close on this issue
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until he gets it done. republican congressman andrew arbery now of new york. i want to get back to katie in london. obviously, katie, two major stories across both sides of the ocean. marking the passing of the queen, the ascension a proclamation of a new king and queen here. the attack on 9/11, much of the world is marking something important. today >> sometimes everything happens all at once. and we are experiencing that right now, with what we are seeing in new york city for these september 11th tributes. it is still very hard to believe that it has been 21 years since that terror attack, and the world changed for us in the united states and for so many across the world. here the world is changing for the united kingdom and for the commonwealth. i've said this before but i think it bears repeating. there has been whiplash change in this country, just a matter of days.
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we began the week with prime minister boris johnson and queen elizabeth. we ended the week with a king charles the third and a prime minister lustrous. that is a rapid amount of change for a country not used to that sort of change. from the, monarchy at. least this is the first time in 70 years that this country has a new monarch. and much of the pageantry that we've been seeing over the past few days has never been seen by anyone before. because of technology, frankly. there are now abilities to get things live on camera. there wasn't back when queen elizabeth was first chlorinated, and when her father died. broadcast to individuals, and people around the world. also the ascension ceremony that we witnessed yesterday. it camera has never been inside that ever. only a very small group of people have ever witnessed that. most of the ones who witnessed
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it for elizabeth, if not every single one of, them are gone now. that was a real first. and it shows you the change that is coming for the royal family. and, charles king charles, has acknowledged that back when he was prince charles. reportedly wanting a slimmed down monarchy, not so many people on the royal payroll. i think this country paid 100 and $20 million or so last year for the royal family. we saw a glimpse of what that might be during the queens last jubilee. it was just the queen and prince charles at the, time camilla william and kate and their children. just a direct line to the throne. there was also, talk, ali about what to do with the many estates and castles that the royal family-owned in the a kingdom even reporting from the telegraph that king charles might consider gifting balmoral, that estate or residents that
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the queen loves so much, back to the united kingdom back to scotland. they're also talking to making buckingham palace more of an official place a business rather than a residents. the royal family does not particularly love living there by accounts that we have heard. queen elizabeth, when she became queen or when it was known that she would eventually when they become queen when her father took the throne side according to a governor's at the time, what we have to lift their forever? i don't really want to look at buckingham palace. summit because of a place of official business, and open up more to the public so that they can take tours of. it is not just a slimming down of who is visible and who is leaving this family. but the monuments and the physical structures and been part of this family for so long now. >> ball morrow -- could hold on a second, the president at the pentagon right. now he is just arriving for

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