a very good day to all of you from msnbc will headquarters here in new york. i'm alex within welcome to our special coverage, remembering the queen in a shrinking charles the third.

also today, coverage of the 9/11 attacks 21 years later. a day of remembrance. but, first we begin what king charles describes as his mother's last great journey. the coffin when elizabeth it has ended a long, somber procession through the scottish countryside from balmoral castle where she died two holly hood house in edinburgh will remain until it is flown to buckingham palace on tuesday. on wednesday the queen will lie in the street that the houses of parliament will have a state funeral in westminster abby on september 19th. along that six hour journey today, tears for queen elizabeth the second. and for a brief moment, a somewhat different picture of buckingham palace. [noise] there you hear the

cheers for king charles as he returns to the palace for another round of meetings with commonwealth leaders. the united kingdom territories officially proclaims him king. >> god save the king. ♪ ♪ ♪ [noise] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ three cheers for his majesty the king. hip hip! >> hurray! >> hip hip! >> hurray! >> hip hip! >> hurray!

>> -- dominating the british tablet today with photos of their surprise public appearance together at windsor castle. helping to get this hour started with nbc's matt -- joining us from london. also joining, us you especially correspondent for bbc studios into new, our former royal editor like tv news. i welcome all of you to begin with, you. matt not long ago the queen's casket arrived in hollywood. house any news motion expect to see here today? >> what we're talking about here today is a special sort of interim day in the ten or 11 days of pomp and circumstance. which really is unfolding from the very north of the country. today we saw that queens casket riding through even, as the capital of the scottish highlands. and that will be heading down here to london, as you mentioned, next week. we state behind me, westminster already saw the houses of parliament before that funeral in westminster abbey across the street, before she is then

interested in windsor castle alongside her husband at st. george's chapel. what we've seen today or are to moving targets and you can really see the next ten days as sort of dueling spectacles. one, the queen himself. can charles the third. newly minted, it has now been traveling around with authorities and officials are calling for years operation spring don. this is trying to introduce him to all of the four constituents countries within the british united kingdom. but today he did something a little bit different. that operation is going to be beginning soon, because today he met with some of the leaders of the commonwealth countries. remember there are some 15 countries that he is now the king of. many of them former british colonies, quite a few of them flirting or sort of rumbling with the idea of declaring republicanism. so now is moving around the constituent countries here on the british isles. those countries, some of them

have really quite directly move towards abandoning the crown and monarch in the past several years, and may do so again once they're out of this very popular queen has finally died after the longest reigning british history. he is going to be trying to shore up up his association with some of these other countries, some further commonwealth countries, while the queens castle has moved from, balmoral scotland, a private home. not a royal residence. but really one of the, queens we, understand favorite homes. and when the belongs to them the royal family, as private citizens. not as members of the sovereign monarchy of britain. so she moved first say taxed one in this long six hour drive, with the queen. her casket in princess margaret her daughter, her only daughter, traveling for the six hours all the way northwest to even asked before finally reaching attenborough. earlier that day king charles iii has already been proclaiming. alex. s already >> cannot imagine whas

like for princess and, the princess world have to travel with him of the casket. quite emotional time for all. thank you for that math. the other big storyline today and perhaps a particular interest to americans. the brothers reunited. the appearance of princess harry and william together it's at windsor castle, dominating the tabloid front pages. the report from nbc senior national correspondent kier simmons. >> with the front pages of the newspaper dominated by another scene. the male picturing william harry kate and meghan, with the headline, reunited. the sunday telegraph puts it a different way. reunited in sorrow. >> the queen leaving the castle where she lived her last days. beginning her final journey through crowds of mourners in scotland. people united in grief. the queen's family taking in the tributes at balmoral, her granddaughter eugenie wiping

away tears. and then this. the death bringing her estranged grandsons together. brothers harry and william, their wives kate and megan. >> the 7:11 year olds messages get -- at the time. the case as well -- >> -- >> inevitably it seemed a little awkward at times. but the queen would have loved it. their love or her overriding any differences. kate now the princess of whales, a title not held since princess diana. prince william, the prince of wales, saying of the grandmother who can harry and -- after they lost their mom. i knew this day would come, but it will be sometime before the reality of life without granny will truly feel real. this morning, millions away their opportunity to say goodbye. the queen's body will arrive in london on tuesday. to lie there before the state funeral in westminster abby on monday. >> thank you for that report.

joining me now, u.s. special correspondent for bbc studios and msnbc contributor as well as tim your, former -- at our tv news. welcome to you both. atkathy, no surprise at all this ended up on the front plates of the tabloids. those brothers being reunited. but tell me what it says about the popularity of the younger royals and how badly everybody wants them to get along. >> i think you are right, alex. everybody would like them to get on. the commentary is heard as watching british television was a very much about how they hope that for the queen this would be a moment of unity. and also king charles. you mentioned both william and harry in the first address that he gave to the nation. and expressed his love for his two sons. he too would like to see this rift healed. it has been a damaging year for the queen to see the public statements made by harry and

meghan and the several statements since that have not been easy for the royal family in the uk. there is what a difference of opinion in the uk in the u.s. in terms of who is in the right who is in the wrong. but i think seeing them together something that that crowd and side of that castle wanted to see. and here is, right there was a time when it was awkward, there was a time when -- interactions. but the very fact the prince of wales, prince william we showed you his brother and said please will you come with us was in of itself and all of branch to the brother and his wife. it >> absolutely. and that factors made clear by the palace that it was the prince of whale who said to harry and meghan, please come join me. what do you think it took behind the scenes to make this public appearance happen? >> well, i think after the queen's death the time was absolutely ripe for some sort of reconciliation. and i think the image of a

family divided at this particular time we have been really very bad indeed. they were both together at balmoral, just after the queen's death. i know they traveled separately up there. but it would have been extraordinary for them not to have put some sort of olive branch extended. the way that the media here would have reacted to that would have just simply ban that it remains, even after the queen's death, it remains a divided family. so william is a very good at sensing the public mood. you can see him there talking to people. that's harry, i'm sorry. you can't see him with the crowds. he knows how to react to people. he has a very good sense of the public mood. and i think he knew that if ever there was a moment to extend a hand to harry, they hand of friendship as it were, it had to be now. i don't think it was a great surprise.

>> there is a new poll of vote that shows just how much more they british public seems to prefer a prince william over his father. 66% to king charles's 42. what are the implications of this when it comes to charles's ability to be an effective leader? >> i think there is some, i don't know if pressure is the right word. he is the king. there is never been any inference from either elizabeth or from king charles they're gonna jump the line of succession. they'll also be polls in austria that said australians would have liked him to jump the line of succession. go straight to williams. that has never been questioned publicly in the royal family. and certainly king charles now has something of a charming offensive, if you, like to conduct. i think it was interesting seeing him with those representatives from the commonwealth. it's not like a presidential campaign. he's won the election as it

were. but he still has to go around and shore up his support for the stability and the strength of his reign. i think that is the important thing. the monarchy is here. it is not going anywhere. but king charles wants this area to be remembered. he wants to be a consequential talking not just a transitional ken. and some of that will be the degree to which he, like his mother, can win and then hold the trust of his subjects, both in the united kingdom and in the realm that he is head of state of. and it is his job, now. >> curious from you to. what do you think the new thing we need to do to close this gap? do you think time, just the passage of time, as the public adjusts, will that be helpful to having him on the throne and perhaps seeing his popularity? and it can't be overlooked that he is living in the shadow of a

remarkably popular queen. so he was never going to be able to reach those sort of stratospheric numbers. ose sort o >> no. of course not. but i think you are right. it will take a little time but this country is still largely supportive of the monarchy. not exclusively not unanimously, of course not. but there is no question that people will rally behind him. he won't have the same affection that the queen had after 70 years on the throne. of course not. and he has a back story which she did not have when she became queen. but i think the perception of the moment is that he's played a good start. it is a time of national mourning. he's been seen to react very well with the public. he's shown respect for the way that his mother planned the monarchy. and i think in the days ahead, people will warm to him.

i know he has been a popular in the past, but british people will be inclined to give him a chance, i think. >> tim and kevin, i think he was just with me if you could. i'm gonna bring in carrie sanders. gary is joining us from kingston, jamaica. carey, welcome. there are certainly calls in the last 48 hours or so for slavery reparations and some other big changes with this big change of a new monarchy. what are you hearing? >> i am in one of the commonwealth countries here in jamaica. so that means that the head of state's, was the queen,. now the king. the population here about 3 million in jamaica will get many different opinions, but there is a loud voice for reparations. if you go back to the royal shipping company, their royal african company, that wasn't 16 60. we are going way back. they established the vessels the ships, which brought the slaves down here to the west

indies. to be enslaved to work on the sugar cane plantations here. which was like old at a time. that was the value of sugar. there is a direct lineage from the duke of york under the house of stewart back in 16 60 through to the house of windsor, , to the queen elizabeth. and now to kenya trials. so the folks here say that they actually had to work to produce all of this wealth that than the british monarchy took stole, off of their backs. and that wealth allowed them to become the power that they remain today. and if you were to take a look at how much that was worth, in 1838 when they abolished slavery here, the monarch here the british government gave the slave 20 million pounds. and so that was such a tremendous amount of money to

put it into perspective. it was not until 2015 that all of that was paid off. those here in jamaica say we deserve reparations. you give money to the people who own the slaves. but you gave nothing to us. if you take that 20 million pounds and you are to consider how much money that will be with today, it might be billions maybe even trillions of dollars. among the loudest voices here say that reparations are due. and an apology which has never come from the royal family is due. that is cliff hughes. here's what he had to say. >> going to the queen have apologized? she should have? >> yes! the autograph! >> and now what you expect from the new monarch, the king? >> i wish they will apologize. >> you don't respect? it >> no. >> because? >> they've never done it. and they don't fully --

if they were to do it would open that door. >> to reparations? >> to reparations. >> the duke and justice of cambridge, that's marianne, kate the prince and princess. they were here in march. when they made the visit they were confronted by those who very loudly wanted to hear an apology. and of course the real question is whether here they want to know, will there be an apology now from king charles the third? they say if there were to be an apology, alex, that immediately opens up the door to having to pay reparations. there are very strong feelings here. one person made a, point, alex telling me that nobody here is celebrating her death. they are just not mourning her death. >> interesting perspective there. as well as the four centuries of history we've given us, my friend. thank you so much kerry. and indeed marrying kick a real ear full on that tour earlier

this year. let's go back very quickly with one question to each of you. tim how do you put the history of the british crown and prospective one reflecting on the life of the screen? life of the screen >> i think the first thing to say, they're really, is that if there is to be an apology that is going to be a political decision. that is not a decision that the king can make himself. that is something that, as you have heard they've not done yet. charles is taking over the crown. at a time when more of the rams do want to consider becoming republics. in fact, just today antigua, where the king was proclaimed in full fashion just after that proclamation, the prime minister of into gust of brown said that he intended to have a referendum within three years, within three years of becoming a republic. the royal family accepts this is happening.

they know they can't stop it. they're not gonna try to stand in the way. and they will turn up when the flag is lowered. and be part of the ceremonies. it is inevitable. it is going to happen. >> patty, your expectations on what controls does, whether he addresses this directly or not? >> i think we're gonna see a very different type of monarchy. we're gonna see some of those royal mister claire independents. when he was prince of wales, charles insisted that some of those independent ceremonies in the past. and he knows that is possible. he is going to modernize the british monarchy by making it potentially, more of a northern european perhaps a more slimmed down to justify some of the costs. and he will be aware that there is going to be a lot of scrutiny of how he handles this issue. but i think it is very important instances, to distinguish between political decisions that are made around something like an apology, and the figurehead that is the british monarch. they are limited in what they

can and will say. >> kevin kaye and to meet you many thanks to both of you. very much appreciate your insights. coming up next, what could be increasing prospects of prosecuting donald trump. vice president kamala harris reveals what she thinks about the possibility. and remembering 9/11. on the, stably recalled horrific attacks 21 years ago today. so hard to believe. we will reflect on that painful day, a day that changed this country in the world forever. >> this is a day not only to remember, but a day of renewal and resolve. for each and every american. no heavy perfumes, and no dyes. finally, a light scent that lasts all day. downy light!

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todd. >> what do you say to the argument that it would be too divisive for the country to prosecute a former president? >> i think that our country is a country that has gone through different periods of time. where the unthinkable has happened. and where there has been a call for justice. and justice has been served. >> let's bring in peter baker msnbc analyst and -- dinnertime good front was on our sunday. here we go, peter. how you interpret that response and you think there are discussions, do you know if there are, inside the white house about this very prospect? because it feels like it is getting closer. >> obviously. they are trying to walk a fine line here, not taking to clear position again on this subject. you're right it is an important

subject and this is something that the president of vice president general would want to grapple. with but they may not want to grapple with it publicly. they do not want to be seen as putting the figure on the scale, here. what biden has said all along is that decisions like this will be made by the attorney general without political interference of the white house. even discussing this in an interview the vice president was asked to do something here that risk looking like you are weighing in. i think he was trying desperately to avoid doing something that would look like that. it is a big issue. just over the sake of argument if there were facts or to justify those charges, it still raises that question chuck. asked doesn't make america democracy stronger by holding a former president accountable? why does it simply feet into the polarization and hurt the credibility of american democracy among those who would say it's just politics, it makes us look like a banana republic. that's a hard argument to have right now. >> there will several, moments, peter where the vice president

took a page from the president's booking call that members of the far-right for threatening democracy. in your recent article you highlight that there may be a consensus in america the democracy is not danger, but both sides disagree drastically about who is threatening it. one side blames former president donald trump and his maga republicans, while the others figures president biden and the socialist democrats. which sign is more convincing? when you have the white house bully pulpit, does that automatically mean you have a disadvantage? >> that poll is fascinating. in answer to the question, is america's democracy on the verge of collapse, 69% of democrats said the s. and 69% republican say yes. but the fact that they disagree about why is one of the reasons why we are having this crisis in the first place. where the democrats would say what biden harris would say is that the people who actually try to stop an election from being certified last january 6th in 2021 was a threat to

democracy. not policy differences that you might have with democrats in office. that is a problem here. on the other hand you have president trump out here fighting these untrue, completely bogus claims about the election to his followers. here than many of them are buying it or believing that in fact there was something wrong with the election when there wasn't. there was no evidence whatsoever. for president biden who is trying to convince the country that this is something to worry about, that the sort to democracy that he sees is in fact a problem, he's speaking to an audience that is already very divided. it is basically close to half may not even be -- >> it's so frustrating how many times can those people who follow donald trump's claims that the election was stolen by a told it was not time and time again? and still perpetuating believe them? that's just a frustration i'm sure you share as well. that being said the president did not, or whether the vice president not mince anywhere when discussing this -- not surprisingly.

and the majority's decision to overturn roe v. wade. let's take a listen to that. decision to >> i think this is an activist court. >> what does that mean? >> it means that we had an establishments right promised half a century, which is the right of women to make decisions about their own body. as an extension of what we have decided to make it into privacy rights, to which all people are entitled. and this court took that constitutional right away. and we are suffering as a nation. because it. >> democrats see this abortion issue is game changing. they are hoping it will drive people to the polls. the sunday talk shows i heard democrats saying it is going to have a profound effect. and you have republicans dismissing it as some sort of a peripheral matter. are republicans just in denial?

or are democrats overestimating? >> both could be, true, of course. the republicans thought this was a winning issue with him for a while for a number of years because it was activating their base more than the other side of the argument activated the democrat base. because those who are little bush will more likely to vote on those issues than those who wanted to preserve abortion rights. this is now been turned on its head because of roe v. wade had no returns. and the threat to abortion rights to for those who support this a real visceral. now you see some statistically are pretty striking. large wrist -- to vote by women as opposed to man, the kansas referendum saw a very deep red state ratifying abortion rights. you see republican candidates now obviously nervous about it quietly distancing themselves from that -- you don't talk about that and democrats want to talk about law because they want to govern as a people to come out and vote on that issue, and other issues that republicans think are beneficial to them like inflation or immigration or

crime. that is an old. question will abortion rights be galvanizing enough issue on the left to make up for the historic headwinds that the party in power normally faces in an election? right now they're doing, okay democrats in the senate. a chance of holding on, getting a state or two in the house. they've clearly picked up some momentum. but they are still underdogs to this, point to hold on to the house. >> let, me before we let you go for your reaction to the got a elizabeth. in your latest article you highlighted the significance of her as a public figure having hosted 13 sitting u.s. presidents. since you opened covering the white house and several administrations, rather, how do you define her legacy in terms of american politics, and i understand you actually had a personal interaction with the queen? >> if you want to call it, that yeah. one time i was in the press pool for the white house, until isn't 14 covering a d day celebration. they were bringing -- the around the corner of château saying move move move,

hurry hurry hurry. we almost knocked over this little lady we pass by and act over and i was like, oh my, it's the queen. that would've been bad, right? >> full on international incident! >> she was, unfazed of course. she did not seem to be bothered by it at all. in a broader sense, i think that what you saw in her was a sense of continuity in a sense of the glue of the u.s. uk relationship. 13 presidents, there was always a queen. and no matter how much tension there might be at times in the relationship, the special relationship, as we like to call, it between the united states and britain. her presence and her interactions with those presents symbolize the greater enduring beyond those two countries had. i think that it was a special figure for all those presidents, all those looking forward to meeting. her if either because of validating moment for the administration. the call it like a fairytale. trump sent his scottish born

mother so admire the queen, wanted to know that he wasn't having to do with. her president bush took her to a baseball game. went to a picnic with her. they enjoyed meeting her but it was also i think something larger about these two countries. >> absolutely. peter baker always a pleasure. i'm glad you have those minutes particular queen of england, i tell. you thank you. this morning and lower manhattan with the pentagon also in shanksville pennsylvania, of course a solemn day of remembrance. the country marking out 21 years since the legacy would happen when you are to go in afghanistan to still stop of mind. maryland governor westmore is going to join me with reflections on both after a break.

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>> damian's wes more democratic candidate for mayoral -- former robinhood foundation ceo. wes, welcome. good to see you. again 21, here is hard to believe, since the terrorist attacks on 9/11. how do you reflect on that day and what should americans focus on today? >> i think, you know, a day like today is just a solemn reminder of the fact that our freedom is fragile. i think this just this morning i was here in maryland i want one of the main memorials were happening across the state and i was standing with firefighters and police

officers another first responders. it really struck me as well, thinking about 21 years ago to the day from years ago to the day, i was reminded of this sense a pity that we saw in the immediate aftermath of those attacks. it is a solemn day, and it is also a reminder of the heroism that we are capable of. that we are capable of. the heroism that we saw from our neighbors. and the extraordinary heroism of what happens when a nation can unite on a common -- >> wes, you served in afghanistan. and of course just over a year ago this country lost watched that messy and complicated and. what is your take away from that withdrawal? what did we learn? >> i supported ending the war for years. i believed it was the right

thing and i still think it was the right thing. but i also know that i'm not alone. know that i'm not alone, in creating some space this week in our service. thinking about the friends that we lost and continue to pray for the well-being of the afghan people. we'll never start -- stop wrestling with the effects of that war and also the effects of the withdrawal. but the other thing that i do know is that the support for our veterans cannot stop. we saw the couple weeks ago where the veterans from democrats, republicans and independents we're all calling for the senate to pass the pack and give veterans each or they deserve. in the state of maryland alone. they are over 6001 people registry. i think that we as a nation have tua member that while i agree with the decision to withdraw our kinetic forces from afghanistan, the many men

and women who served overseas in afghanistan, just because we made it, home does not mean services and supports and they were members of that service needs to end as well. but >> i just want to make note to our viewers who are, engrossing just as you know as well, having some hiccups. an echo effect when it comes to your audio. you continue as you can but we are gonna try to fix it on our end. that, said i do want to talk about the midterms two months away with the president taking a pretty strong stand against trump, and the circle maga republicans. really publicly calling them out for promoting violence. let's listen together to some of his latest remarks he made in ireland this week. >> the extreme set of maga republicans have chosen to go backwards towards anger, violence and division. that is where the rain is. that's why those who love this country, democrats independent mainstream republicans, have to be stronger and more determined and more committed to saving

american democracy than the majority of likens are to literally destroying american democracy. >> wes, do you support this approach? should the president put equal emphasis on other pressing issues? >> i think the president is saying is correct. the outlook is correct. if you look at the governor's race, it is true. well my definition of patriotism was leaving my family and putting off and defending him -- remember the 82nd air force in afghanistan. my definition of patriotism was putting on a baseball cap. now asking his friends to join him. on january 2nd, overturning an election. the president's right to say that look, what we are going to focus on the issues we are seeing right now, our state people are concerned about public safety. people are concerned about

inflationary pressures and costs. people are concerned about all these things. and at the same time, people are concerned about democracy. people are concerned that we can have people who are trying to lead with a frame of divisiveness and conspiracy theories. versus our campaign on real, concrete tangible suggestions and recommendations and policies. >> wes, i'm awfully glad you mentioned that with a potential constituent is concerned about right now. we're gonna cut this interview short a bit because we have a significant audio problems. that means it's a promise to bring a. thank you so, much westmore. meantime, decisions deadlines defies with national security potentially at stake. the justice department's increasingly arjun see with the mar-a-lago documents face, an issue and ultimatum. that's next. m. that's next. incredible - meatballs, fresh mozzarella and pepperon- oh, the meatball's out! i thought he never fumbles. the new subway series. what's your pick?

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department has assured on the multiple fronts and investigation into donald trump. first, up the doj in the trump legal team clashing over the special master. as they offer two names age. the doj suggesting that the federal district rodgers and the legal team having a retired district court judge and deputy attorney general in florida. meanwhile, the trump team has until monday to respond to the doj filing, asking the judge to lift a block access to materials with a special master of use them. and the doj gives the judge a legal ultimatum. she has until thursday to restore access to those materials. and the justice department is going to appeal to a higher court. join me, now melissa murray, a law professor at new york university and msnbc legal analyst. and frank -- assistant director for counter intelligence at the fbi. and msnbc national security analyst. welcome to you both. melissa, you first.

here let start with a dispute over who takes on this role of neutral arbiter. our special master. who do you see as the most relief likely candidates. thus far we don't know if anybody is going to agree to take on this job do we? >> well, hopefully if any of these individuals whose names were consulted in advance to see if they would be really concerned if they are ultimately appointed by the district court to take this on. but the department of justice has offered the names of two former federal judges judge partly drones who once served on the -- new york here in putting, george thomas -- who served on the d.c. district court. both are very well respected. -- is actually a republican bush appointee. the department offering up names of democratic presidents and one republican president. the trump camp have opened up the name of judge derry who was a judge at the district in new york here in manhattan. and also another person who is

known more in florida politics, close to both charlie chris and rick scott. having served in the foreign administration under both of those governors. this is someone who is more likely to be affiliated with the federal society. it is unclear which george cannon will ultimately pick in this particular case. a decision that obviously rests with her. no one is quite sure where she will go. again there are some very strong choices here. >> so the doj asked judge canada to reverse a portion of her ruling, saying that her block on accessing classified documents while the special master situation plays out is hindering its inquiry into whether national security was compromised. the intelligence community has confirmed that its national security review is on hold now, frank. so what is at risk here? can you put that in perspective? >> the practical effect of judge cannon's ruling has been to cause the doj to come to a screeching halt, at least on

the criminal investigators side. which they've told a judge cannot be disconnected from. they use the phrase inexorably linked to the national security damage, you can't do one without the other. they tried to kind of partially deference, but they're saying you can't do, this is your honor. it attached to their filings we had a counterintelligence with the fbi who, said look, you don't understand. it is the same people supervising the rescue heroes supervising the -- eight there are not endless amount of intelligence experts here and we have the same agents involved. what you are implying is that we can have people go in and interview people about documents under the rubric of this risk review, but if they give us information that is pertinent to the criminal case, we can't use. it we have to stop that enough people write it up. it does not work. so the doj has said, look, you talk about the nation's business. here there is national

security. you have to let us access 100 or so classified documents, now, so that we can get on with securing our nations business. >> wow. given the explanation it sounds like a very legit case at the doj house is making that request. but in it's a fire filing the doj also says that trump has new claims of privilege. neither attorney-client privilege nor executive privilege, over those 100 classified documents, melissa. how do you think this argument is going to resonate with the judge? >> i think it is unlikely to be something that she is a medical student, because she essentially address this in her earlier ruling. and confirmed that this is not the case. you said this earlier isn't all tomato for the doj and judge canada. i would actually say this is really a lifeline giving an opportunity to walk back parts of our decision that were, frankly, puzzling and eyebrow raising for many of us within the legal community. the idea of executive privilege being lodged with the incumbent president is one that i think is well established. certainly from nixon versus gsa,

which is one of the presidents of the doj set repeatedly in the filing. and again the idea that the actual intelligence community is somehow divorce from the department of justice on the fbi, when in fact the fbi as part of the national security community. again, all of these things i think were misunderstandings that were littered throughout this opinion. and this is really the doj's opportunity to ask roger canada to rethink and walk some of this back. >> i like the way you put, that walking back a decision. it could be a based on the -- the frank was giving us. among the reasons that the doj said it needs a continuous investigation, those 48 extra folders mark classified, within that was part of the mar-a-lago stash. the doj filing says that the fbi is responsible for finding out if they lost or compromised. frank, how significant is that? >> yeah i mean, just as important as what they found is what they didn't find.

and the question of where is it. because as you said, they've got 40 some odd empty folders marked classified. and you've got to figure out whether that simply means that the documents were taken out of those folders and intermingled amongst personal belongings and other records, or whether they were truly truly missing. and, again that is linked to the risk of you in the criminal case. and even, very kind of tantalizing, the doj says in their, filing look, judge your ruling is actually stopping, us impeding us is the word they used, from finding documents. other classified documents. which could be out there, even in other places. so this raises the possibility that they suspect those empty folders, those contents, might have ended up somewhere else. and the question of somewhere else is why they need to get the investigation back up and running. >> that is on a good prospect. melissa mary, -- thank you guys so much. americans flocking to london in memory of the queen.

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elizabeth ii monumental seven decade rain was hard to be easily summarize. but fortunately and we have nbc 's -- hair for, us to sum up the queens many many accomplishments. in life and. numbers take it away. >> lots of them, too, alex. thank you. i take a look at, this alex. america's fascination with queen elizabeth is not surprising, but just how much we are fascinated by her might open your eyes. let's start with the number 10 million. 10 million, that is how many times americans google queen elizabeth on thursday, that was a day that she passed. that was ten times more than for serena williams when she started her final u.s. open. 20 times more than four taylor swift's announcement of her new album. it is only a virtual here alex. americans wanted to be there in the uk during their very emotional time. flights are just to. london they spiked 49%. lets the day the queen died from before the travel site hopper. and then there were 70 plus

years of political guidance. we've talked about it so much. she met all the last 14 u.s. presidents. that is except for lyndon johnson. eisenhower, she met with seven popes since 1961 with john paul the 23rd. she had private weekly meetings with 15 prime minister since winston churchill. the british constitution giving her powell to advise. and alex, a sentimental number here for, you she loved right personal notes. you saw her doing this and awful lot. almost 1 million cars, says reuters, and that's just a couple celebrating their 60th diamond wedding anniversary. how about? that >> can you imagine getting one of those and having also 13 sitting american president that you chatted with in-person? i'm told that you found the staff of the queen himself may have been most proud of to share that one? >> this is a fun one. the number here is 30 plus. number dogs that she owns during her reign, all core gays and dash and core gays.

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