♪ ♪ ♪ >> good afternoon, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. a sacred day of mourning on both sides of the atlantic. england dealing with the fresh

loss of their monarch, while here in the u.s., a day to commemorate a wound still raw after two plus decades. 21 years to be exact. in great britain, the body of the queen traveling from her beloved home in balmoral or to edinburgh, scotland. where the public will have their first chance to pay respects. >> [applause] >> and king charles will travel to scotland tomorrow, part of a weeklong visit to the countries of great britain ahead of the queen's funeral. here in the united states, remembrances of a very different kind. 21 years after 9/11. the somber eagerly ceremony at ground zero, where nearly 3000 people were killed. the president, marking the day at the pentagon while the first

lady traveled to shanksville, pennsylvania. the president promising to never forget. >> 21 years ago, 21 years and we still kept our promise. never forget. we will keep the memory of all those precious lives, stolen from us. i know, for all of those of you who have lost someone, 21 years has both a lifetime and no time at all. >> and we learned just a short time ago that president biden has officially accepted an invitation to the state funeral for queen elizabeth, set for next monday, september 19th. we want to give you the latest on this morning period for the queen across the pond. that is where matt bradley is standing by for us. matt, good to talk to you. the king, as i mentioned, headed to edinburgh tomorrow. where the queen's coffin has arrived. to allow the staff at the palace to pay their respects as well. take us through the day's

events, and what comes next. >> yeah, yasmin, we're going to see people filing by in hollywood house. that is the official residence for the monarchy in edinburgh. not balmoral, balmoral is the scottish private residents of the queen and other monarchs. but this will be an important occasion, essentially sitting instate in edinburgh. allowing the scottish people to take a look. this is something we're seeing as a theme, a line you can draw through much of the events we're seeing this weekend the next week. uniting the kingdom beyond britain, demonstrating with pomp and pageantry that actually this is more than just england. this is a united kingdom. that's why we're starting to see a parallel effort by the brand-new, newly minted king charles iii. who is going to be trying to visit all of the four constituent countries, nations, that make up the united kingdom. so, in the next couple of days, they're going to be seeing him even as he's leading the

morning for his late mother. you'll see him as he is now, in scotland. also england, of course. and that northern ireland and wales. this is all in an effort to introduce the new came to all of the countries that make up the united kingdom, amidst some tremors going on with scotland and other places like wales and northern ireland, of course. other places further afield, like canada and australia. starting with the notion of republicanism. but then after that, after all of those events, the queen's casket is going to be line instate right behind me, in westminster hall. that is part of the house of commons, that iconic building that you can obviously recognize right behind me. that will be for four full days, actually a little more than four full days. starting wednesday evening unending right up on the morning of the funeral on monday. not this coming monday, but the monday after that. that is a 24-hour affair, yasmin. so, if you are here in britain,

in london, you can file by the queen's casket at any time of any day between wednesday and monday morning. there will be quite a few people. we're hearing from officials and those who are organizing this event, that you should expect to be waiting outside, standing outside line. probably with that access to food or really any real access to toilet facilities, waiting to see the queen. so, if you are interested to doing that and you have to be here in london, that it's going to be a very somber and emotional affair. as the queens subjects walked by and pay her her dues, after such a long time of service. yasmin? >> matt bradley for us. thank you, matt, appreciated. want to bring in sarah grace wood, royal historian and author of elizabeth, the queen and crown. thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we want to talk about the road ahead here for king charles. some of the up road battle he

has ahead of him. considering his popularity or lack thereof, as he has now been named king. especially after following his mother's reign of 70 some years and her overwhelming popularity amidst the public in the uk. let's talk specifically about his meeting with commonwealth leaders today at buckingham palace. i know he's going to be heading to edinburgh tomorrow. but what did you make of the meeting today? and what do you expect happened in that meeting? how important was it to have that meeting with the leaders of the commonwealth? >> well, the commonwealth was always enormously important to clean elizabeth. more so, indeed, then it was to many of her ministers and prime ministers. i think king charles will share that sense of importance. a few years before her death, the queen, most unusually,

declared that she very much hope kherson would be able to follow her as head of the commonwealth. that's not a given, it's not a hereditary post. but she got her way. and of course, they are very much going to want the commonwealth to continue to survive and thrive. now, of the many commonwealth nations who form part of the commonwealth, a proportion, maybe a quarter, a third or a quarter, actually have the queen as the head of state. add to the queen. we do know that a few of them had actually been talking about how they wished, during elizabeth's lifetime, to maintain that link because of the huge respect they had for her. afterwards, it may be a

different matter. so, this is really -- >> i want to dig into that, just a little bit if we can. >> sure. >> the possibility of this being a different matter, especially because of the connection to the commonwealth. it seems to be the common thread was, in fact, queen elizabeth. and what king charles necessarily has to do. i talk specifically, as we heard from the prime minister of anti grass and he's going to call for a referendum within the next three years on becoming a republic but remaining a member of the commonwealth. he actually told i tv news, it's not an act of hostility or any difference between antigua and barbuda in the monarchy, but is the final step to complete that circle of independents. also the prime minister of australia saying he's not necessarily going to be calling for a referendum during his first term out of respect. although some caribbean countries, as well, signaling they intend to head in that direction. in forming a republic. what do you make of this? how do you see this playing out?

>> well, of course, barbados already has done last year. charles has always said, as his mother did before him, that it is up to each country. they see themselves, the royal country, as a serving. they feel that they will serve while they are wanted, where they are called upon to do so. but alongside that, of course, inevitably, runs a sense that no one which is, today, to be the sovereign on who is watch the prestige of the crown, it's reach diminishes hugely. as you mentioned in your introduction, there are concerns even within the united kingdom. so really, king charles has a very big job to do. >> he certainly does.

and we'll be watching it. sarah chris wood, thank you. it much more coming up for the morning period of queen elizabeth ahead. but we want to turn out a lower manhattan, for the 21st anniversary commemoration of the 9/11 attacks began this morning. families of the, victims gathering at the national memorial at ground zero. or several moments of silence were held as well as annual reading of the victims names. vice president kamala harris, former mayor michael bloomberg and current mayor eric adams were among those who attended the ceremony to pay their respects as well. that is where we are joined by nbc's raheem alice. it's good to talk to you. 21 years since 9/11, many of us were here in the city when it took place and remember it as if it was yesterday. seeing the images once again, as we did on that very day. hearing the names once again, after learning they have lost their lives on every day. walk us through the ceremony

this morning at ground zero. >> yasmin, a very somber ceremony, as it has been for the last two decades. and the weather really did, you found that the weather was befitting, if you will, the somber mood here. it has been waiting and overcast and gray. so unlike what it was 21 years ago, on september 11th. it was a beautiful, brilliant, bright sunny day. for the horror to have been rain down on everyone. as you talk about, people remembering exactly where they were and what they felt on that day, people who attended the ceremony, this memorial, say the exact same thing. they remember exactly how they're feeling. and what's even worse for them as those feelings have not gone away. i talked with a man who lost a sister. he said she was his best friend. they relay two peas in a pod. and he has nightmares every night, he says he barely has

slept these past 20 years. because he can't get his sister out of his mind. that is what we hear over and over again, as people read to these names. it's something that brings almost tears to your eyes. and for some of the survivors of the victims, it certainly is that. this goes on for hours, the reading begins around 8:30 or so. as you, know the first plane crashed into the tower at 8:45. the ratings began, and they go on, as i say, for hours, until the very last name is read. it's almost 3000 names, because every single one of them they feel much be remembered. and their names must be said out loud. yasmin? >> i was reading through bryan sweeney, his voice mail to jewels, many of us remember the phone call that he made from that flight that was going from boston to los angeles that

eventually crashed into the towers. that final voice mail that he left for his wife, we said all of you forever and i'll see when you get here. it still sends chills down your spine, 21 years later. raheem ellis, thank you so much, appreciate it. and in washington, the president delivering remarks this morning at the national memorial at the pentagon. while joe biden spoke at the memorial for flight 93 in pennsylvania. msnbc's monica alba this is outside the white house for us. monika, the president really focusing today on the importance of national unity. >> he certainly did, yasmin. that was a message echoed by some of the other major principles who, and i daylight today, go to the various memorials and sites of ceremonies and remembrances. of course now, 21 years later, we saw first lady jill biden. she was at the flight 93 memorial and shanksville, pennsylvania, talking about how she was joined by her sister,

bonnie. who is a united airlines flight attendant and who herself lost friends on that day, more than two decades ago. we also heard the president at the pentagon, where he did go to lay a wreath. he talked about the extraordinary americans who died on september 11th. and he did make a kind of broader call, talking about what he sees as a bigger takeaway in terms of the future and what america needs to stand up for, he said. take a listen. >> to me, that is the greatest lesson of september 11th. not that we will never again face a setback, but that in a moment of great unity we also had to face down the worst impulses. this is a day not only to remember, but a day of renewal and resolve. for each and every american. and our devotion to this

country, to the principles embodies, to our democracy. that is who we owe those remembered today. that is what we have one another. and that is what we have future generations of americans to come. >> the president, speaking in the steady rain there just across the river in virginia. and we saw vice president harris and the second gentlemen make their way to new york city. they were at crown zero for that memorial, where all the names were read earlier today, yasmin. that theme about threats to democracy, that's on the the president touched on, the vice president also talked about that length and her interview with chuck todd, which interview this morning on meet the press. that's a theme, certainly, this white house wants to talk about on this day of great solemnity. yasmin? >> monica alba for us. thank you, monica, good to talk to. we're going to continue our coverage of the anniversary to talk about how far our country

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charlie, let me start with you on this one. talk us through two things, our expectations for a tomorrow that should go to look, like how things could feasibly play out here. and of course, kind of this intel review that senator warren nor was referring to there. >> well, tomorrow, the trump legal team faces a deadline imposed by the judge at 10 am eastern time to respond to the justice departments gambit last week. to say we can live with a special master of you that looks at the unclassified stuff, but we really need to move forward with the investigation based on the hundred or so classified documents. for several reasons. therefore, we are asking you, you judge can, and to stay your relate that was going to make those documents off limits. justice department saying let's move to this investigation now, just based on 100 classified documents. documents in which classification markings.

and the special master can look at the other 11,000 documents, we don't care if that takes a long time. tomorrow, we can expect the trump legal team will come in and say no, everything needs to be shut down. even those hundred documents may be our executive privileged or maybe attorney-client privilege. and i think should be allowed to move forward until this review that they are hoping will take at least three months. so, that's part one of what we'll see tomorrow. we'll also see the justice department's response to the two special master candidates put forward by the trump team. and vice versa. expect the justice department will be okay with one of them, retired judge from virginia who used to be on the pfizer court, named ray gary. they may have a question about the other one, who is a republican lawyer in florida who is married to a judge on the 11th circuit. which would overseeing the same litigation, which makes that a very odd person to have put forward for this matter. that's what we're going to see tomorrow. as far as the reviews, separate from the criminal investigation, the office of the director of

national intelligence is trying to conduct a risk assessment of what it would mean if any of these classified materials have been compromised when they are being stored in securely at mar-a-lago. along with the justice department, they've been trying to do a classification review of their status. where they still classified? that has been shut down as a result of the judges order, ahead on friday after consulting with the justice department they had to pause that. so, that raises the stakes for this proposition by the justice department. should the judge say maybe went a little too far here, why don't you back off at least as far as the classified material. >> barbara, charlie walked through a couple different things. and point to point out there, as he brings up the 11th circuit court of appeals, you mentioned thistle as well. feasibly, the appeal of this could actually end up in the 11th circuit court of appeals. which obviously could be a conflict of interest, when

we're talking about the appointment of a special master here. although let's begin first to these 100 or so classified documents, and which you tweeted out essentially the doj was kind of giving judge cannon a good carve out here. saving doj has given judge canada semi face saving option by allowing her to carve out classified documents from the special master's review. assessment of damage to our national security requires fbi access to these documents. judge should run to take this option. so, you're suggesting the judge should run to take this option. the question is whether or not she's going to take this option. obviously, we heard charlie in fact saying it's likely the trump team is going to say, no, no carve outs whatsoever. how do you expect the judge to play this? considering which he has said and done so far. >> i think there's a good chance that she does except the suggestion by the justice department. and you, know i think it's a very clever suggestion. because i think most of us out of this decision as a binary.

one either appeal or you don't appeal. and a concern i had about an appeal with the amount of delay that would build in and one thing the government most desperately wants to do, which is that risk assessment charlie just talked about. and they want to do it with the urgency. and at the moment, it is shut down. it is stalled. but one thing that makes me think and have a sliver of hope here, is that judge candidates say you can go ahead with your risk in damages has mid. but you can't look at the documents for any part of the criminal investigation. i think she simply failed that to consider that those two are really intertwined. that the fbi would be essential for doing the risk assessment by questioning witnesses about who might have had access to those documents. and once you know something, you can't on know it later. i think those agents would do later would then be tainted in the criminal case. this is a chance for her to say i always intended for this risk assessment to go forward and, if it's necessary to share these documents with the criminal team to be able to

effectuate that, of course that's what i meant all along. so, i'm going to carve out jessie's 100, mind you, and the special master will look at the rest. i think it's a way to get a win win, which is always the best way for a litigator to proceed. >> i also think, barbara, you make an interesting argument when it comes to the wider appeal that is likely to come down from the doj. this of course a reference to the 11th circuit court of appeals that we talked about a little earlier. you write this, one concern is a delay in appeal would cause for the criminal investigation. cases do not improve with, age it would likely take months for the case to be briefed, argued and decided. you of course go on to talk about the fact that it would end up in the 11th circuit court of appeals, in which is mostly made up of trump appointees. is a real argument here for the justice department that you should not go after this wider appeal, because it just kind of could drive the process even more and halt the criminal investigation? >> i think they can get this car vote, then they probably

get all that they need. they can go ahead with an appeal with the other matters. i think that he thought they may need to appeal it's the judges decision that executive privilege, in any way, protects donald trump in the situation. first, it is the executive branch that once the documents. so, the idea that you're invoke executive privilege against the executive branch is kind of nonsensical. the other is, to the extent there even is any executive privilege, it has to be outweighed here under united states forces nixon. i think that this plan by doj is a really smart way to go. >> charlie savage, barbara mcquade, thank you both guys. appreciate it. coming up, documentarian alex holder, who had unprecedented access in the final months of the trump administration. did he hear or say anything about trump taking classified documents? stay with us. stay with us lasting light scent, no heavy perfumes, and no dyes. finally, a light scent that lasts all day. downy light!

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proclamations around great britain today of king charles the third as the new monarch. other changes will be coming, the kings image will replace elizabeth on stamps and currency. the money still good for now. it's gonna take an estimated two years before the bills in circulation are expected to be fully replaced. joining me now is british documentary, documentary excuse me filmmaker and director of unprecedented. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. before we get into the piece, i want to talk first about the death of queen elizabeth. and your reaction since the news broke. >> sure, it was an interesting journey i had. i was never really the biggest proponents of the institution of the monarchy.

i was driving in my car in los angeles just a few days ago when i heard the news. i had to pull over. it was a strange surprising feeling of grief. in some ways my understanding of the monarchy evolved over the last few days. i did not realize how much the queen is in my life. she was there in the most profound and subtle way. she is on all the money and stamps. she speaks every christmas. she was always there. the constant presence. i did not fully appreciate that perhaps. and now that she is gone, she is seen so many prime ministers and presidents. they have all gone. she still remains. now that she is gone, it is definitely the end of an era. i felt how important the monarchy was without actually realized until she passed away. there was an interesting experience.

>> it is fascinating you're not the first person that is talked about her death in that way. certainly folks as well that did not necessarily agree with the continuance of the monarchy and feeling her loss so profoundly after 70 years of rain. compare for me if you will, indulge me for a moment, alex, watching the images of former president donald trump meeting queen elizabeth a believe in 2018 in 2019, they could not be more opposite of leaders. the queen was such a traditionalist, waiting for 70 years and beloved. popular and rising above politics to assert an extent. and then you have the former president. and who he was. i don't need to get into that. what did you make of their meeting? there are drastic differences. >> one of the things that is

interesting, the only person that i ever heard president trump ever say that he admired in my interactions with him was queen elizabeth. in fact, and every single interview i had with him, the white house, mar-a-lago, and devin stir, he referred to the queen. he even spoke about how he loved her because of his mother's adoration toward the queen. his mother was from scotland. she spoke about her very hardly. trump was very complimentary, it is unique. president trump does not show any sort of adoration towards anyone except himself. that was pretty interesting. in terms of the differences, it is light and a. obviously, he is a politician and she isn't. there is that difference. the way that he comes across. the other thing that's interesting, and someone is the reason why trump love the queen so much is because he, the kind

of things he thinks he's a quasi-domestic royal family himself. the trumps are this american royal family. that is why to him it was never an issue about favoring his children or son-in-law to work in the administration. it was obvious in his mind. they are trump and that all that matters. there is a similarity there. it is completely incorrect. you guys got rid of that promise a long time ago. he thought there was some sort of royal family in the name trump. >> i always wondered what she was thinking as she strolled with the former president during that visit. if only we could have known. alex, quickly, as i have you here, i do want to talk to a little bit about the documents that were seized at mar-a-lago. i know you spent an intense amount of time at the farm president alongside people that were close to him inside the white house and the final months at the end of his presidency. as you learned of these

documents that were seized in mar-a-lago and how classified they were and who in fact they may endanger, what do you make of it? were you surprised? >> it is difficult to be surprised about what the former president does. in this particular case, not really, president trump never looked at the presidency in the way that crazy's president had. he did not differ to hits the enormous power and what it actually meant. he saw it -- these documents had his name on it. he believed they belonged to him. obviously, they do not. elonged they have his name on i. he belongs to them, you take it to his private residence. he is the kind of guy that wants to show off. what am i surprising stories i saw in mar-a-lago, he would actually walk around and goes in when people are having dinner and he walks in just so they applaud him. and then he walked back out again and then a few hours

later he will do it again he loves being surrounded by people who applaud him. he wants to show off it would not be surprising that he's got these documents that he's showing to friends and other members of the club. obviously, it is terrifying. . a plethora of other reasons why the former president is so incredibly different then queen elizabeth. alex holder as always, thank you. coming up, i didn't judge's ruling sets off a battle over an associate hiv medication opening a door for refusal of coverage over the objections. 21 years since the terror attack of 9/11. our coverage of the anniversary continuing ahead as you take a live look toward the world trade center from our camera on top 30 walk. in new york city. we will be right back. be right back. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪ it's subway's biggest refresh yet! businesses have to find new ways to compete

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ruling doesn't actually change anything yet. the judge in question has a history of issuing rulings that get appealed because there are problems with them. this one will absolutely get appealed we all -- as a result of the decision. i think the statements is correct, it is a continuing attack -- and our ability to have agency over our own bodies and health care. the real reality, rulings like this one are really slippery. you may think that these are intended to just -- that might have been the attention. the ripple effect goes far beyond the community. more than just lgbt folks have access to --

here in texas we have over 100,000 texans who of hiv. a lot of those folks are and loving and committed relationships with folks who don't have hiv. prep is one of the things that helps them be in those relationships and keep the people they love safe and prevent the spread of a disease that has cost so many lives. >> talk about the effects this type of decision has. we know it's gonna be appealed. we know is not set in stone at this moment, all of that. just the idea of this decision. they have fought for acceptance, equality, what this does emotionally. >> that's an important point, the committee is under attack in a way that we haven't seen in a really long time in this country. we are seeing it on school levels, we're seeing it and city council, town council, certainly in state legislatures across the country, certainly the one in texas.

we are already dealing with the stress of all the attacks and how psychologically they weigh on the community. this is another prong in that attack. the idea that from a gay man's perspective, we lost a generation of lgbtq folks during the height of the aids crisis. now we have access to a medication that prevents that loss of life. yeah, the idea of how that taken away from folks is certainly upsetting. because we know what hiv can do. we know that we have tools now that can prevent spreading hiv beyond folks who are currently infected with it. it is fair to say this is a mostly upsetting decision. at the same time we have no choice but to continue to push forward and continue to advocate as best we can for the community and for access to preventative health care like prep and make sure that folks know that there is support an additional resources available

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>> that was a scene outside buckingham palace, just two days after the attacks on 9/11. the queen ordering the playing of the usa anthem as a tribute to those lost. and as a symbol of the bond between our two nations. in fact, it was the first and only time in history that the guard played another country's anthem other than during state visits. moments like these are what reinforce the queen's commitment to the special relationship between the united states and the uk. she later visit the site of the attacks that grand zero in 2010, laying a wreath at the memorial and spending time with families of the victims. want to bring in michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian to talk more about this. michael, good to talk to you again. thanks for joining us this entire weekend, we've appreciated it. >> thank you!

>> how important was that tribute, among so many others we saw following the attacks on this country? on 9/11. and especially with the uk cementing our friendship. >> well, i'm so glad that you brought up that moment. because it said so much. because 9/11 was the second time in american history that the united states of america had been directly attacked by foreign invaders. and where the foreign invaders? they were the british, with whom we fought the war of 1812. they attacked washington, d.c., burned at the capitol, burned the white house in august of 1814. so, it was both ironic and had huge meaning that the queen says, play the star-spangled banner europe buckingham palace. well, star-spangled banner, was

written after the battle of baltimore in september of 1814. it was written to commemorate the american defeat of the british in that battle. so, if you needed a statement, and we really didn't because we knew the british were by our side, that was a statement of anglo american solidarity. >> yeah, so, you think back to that time. i remember walking the streets of new york. i lived here in new york city, fresh out of college. how united we were as new yorkers, and how united we were as a nation. i remember riding in a taxicab and hearing then president bush addressing the nation after the 9/11 attacks. and how emotional i felt at that moment. then, you fast forward to today, and how incredibly divided we are as a country. and you wonder if we'll ever get back to that time. and why it always takes a

tragedy like 9/11, and attack on who we are, come together. >> it hurts your heart to think about that. yes, in history, 1860 we had to go through a civil war to try to resolve differences over slavery. which we never really resolved. in 1840, we had a presidential election and then pearl harbor, that was required to bring all americans together of the question of, do we stand up to fascists and hitler? but there other moments, like the huge divisions over the war in vietnam. late 60s, early 70s. that were resolved once the war was over and we found other things to think about. but look at the last 21 years, yasmin. the 9/11 attack, on the heels of the closest election in american history. bush v. gore, resolved by the supreme court. then, in 2008, the great recession. and then huge dislocation, people thrown out of their jobs

into their homes. a group of people, fortunately a small minority, white people who are worried about losing their majority in this country. something we never could've foreseen, that they would've gone to this extent. and in recent years, some of them have advocated violence. they have used social media to plant things like january 6th and circulated conspiracy theories. all things we never could've dreamt of on 9/11. but the tragic thing is, i believe, if there were and attacked by foreign terrorists once again like 9/11, i think whoever was president would have a hard time achieving the kind of unity that you are talking about. >> absolutely. you oftentimes look to the president for leadership during times like that, as we look to the president today. and he was at the pentagon.

that, you have a former president who's essentially on the record saying that nobody has gotten to the bottom, i believe, of 9/11, is what he said. there is folks in this country that continue to support him, even with him saying it. knowing how unified we were after the tragedy. >> absolutely true. and as you know, the founders envisage that the president would be the one person in the united states that would try to bring the nation together. and donald trump, like him or don't like him, his strategy is to divide and conquer. >> michael beschloss, as always it is great to talk to you. especially as we think of some of the images that we have been seeing over the last 24 hours. really, over the last 72, from the loss of the queen to today. commemorating the 21st anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on this country. if only we could come full circle and be unified once again, without yet another loss like we've experienced in this country before. >> right back at you, thank you,

yasmin. >> as always, great to talk to you. coming up at the top of the hour, we are live in london with what is ahead this week, leading to queen elizabeth funeral. and we'll take you to jamaica, one of great britain's commonwealth nations. where some are now thinking of rethinking the relationship with the monarchy. a conversation is coming up. so, skin looks firmer over time. with olay body, i feel fearless in my skin.

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hi, everyone, i'm yasmin vossoughian, welcome back to our special coverage of the morning for queen elizabeth. the body is an embryo islands, it will remain there for next couple of days. the public will have their first chance to pay their respects and person. king charles will be in scotland tomorrow after the proclamation of his >> with fanfare and years. while the king is being met with enthusiasm, he has a big job ahead that has a started. meeting with representatives in the commonwealth at nations today, even as some started considering their future with great britain. we learned just in the last few hours that president biden has now formally accepted an invitation to the queen's funeral on this 19th of september.

he'll be accompanied by the