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george, is now, but the death of our lead sovereign of happy memory, become our only lawful and rightful lead lowered, charles the third. [applause] [noise] good morning from buckingham palace. it is 7:00 on monday, the 12th of september. her final journey, at the queens children will walk along sign her mother's coffin as it is taken to the long aisles edinburgh to st. charles cathedral. no photos and a warning of long queues advised to members of the public. we want to see the queen while she lies in state.
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the king speech, mps and lords will come together was minister hauled to hear from the new monarch and a special ceremony. >> i am here at st. charles cathedral in edinburgh, where the king will hold a vigil with members of the royal family. >> good morning from above that national park in kenya. 70 years ago, her majesty came here, a princess and returned to britain a queen. >> in parts of the commonwealth, morning is accompanied by fresh questions of the royal of the monarchy. >> the prime minister of antigua -- saying that he intends to hold a referendum on that country becoming a republic in the next few years. another sign for jamaica and other nations who may well follow suit. >> in other news, this morning, the only light in the darkness,
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ukraine accuses retreating russian military of attacking a power station, causing a blackout in kharkiv. good morning from buckingham palace -- palace, king charles iii will lead a procession alongside his mother's coffin, later, as it's moved to saint charles's cathedral in edinburgh. the king will also give a speech to mps and lloyd's here in london at once monster hall this morning. new details have also been revealed of how people can see the queen lying in, state both in scotland and also in london. her majesty is lying and state in the palace of westminster will begin on wednesday at 5 pm. it will be open 24 hours a day until it closes at 6:30 am. a week today. visitors will go through airport stuff security and there are tight restrictions on what visitors should and should not do. we'll, let's go through some of them. we should dress appropriately to pay your respects to the queen.
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which includes, not wearing any political or offensive slogans. there are many others, as well, laura to run through more. these have just been released. >> yeah, we have the details now >> yeah, we've got the details. now organized by the cabinet office. we know we're being told to wear appropriate clothes not just for the messaging, that sort of thing. but for the weather as well, because it's a beautiful day here. the sun is, quite striking, but it could be rainy, it could be hot. and people are expected to be in cues for a long time, for many, many hours we are being told. and it will be a constantly moving queue. so think about what you are going to wear, bring food and drink as well, they will be limited provisions along the way. the exact route of the queue will be announced tomorrow, but we are expecting it to be obviously running up to westminster hole, where it goes it will be interesting. we marshaled all along the way. and once you enter that queue you will be in and queue, they won't be any access. i imagine there will be
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barricades of some sort. he will be given a wristband, and it will be yours, and you wear it all the way through the queue. there will be a security, airport security, as we get to the palace of westminster queue. one small bag you'll be allowed to take, no food or drink, came. of course, everyone has a mobile phone. if you do take a mobile phone, you're being told to take a charger with you, because the queues are expected to last so long. no photos of any kind, obviously, once inside westminster hall, it's not the time for selfies and videos. any handheld devices will not be allowed. >> >> it's worth remembering, of, course a lot of people, you know, it's a working city, and a lot of people live and work nearby. and no matter how white people are, the noise will still resonate. so we're asking people to be cautious about the noise they're making, and of course switch off your phone when you go in and past the queens coffin. >> turned the mobiles off and don't bring any flowers. we are seeing flowers here.
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and we see them lying in gruene park. people are actually asked not to bring flowers, but they want to. but no flowers, no cards, nothing can be left and with mr. hole. it will be a silent room. you won't be allowed to sit down. you won't be allowed to stand. it will be a gentle pass. they want to let as many people as possible witness this moment, to say thank you and, in person, themself. i think they want the queue to be constantly moving. and there will be 24 hours a day. it will be incredibly big. >> could be hours and hours and hours and that queue. so you need to bear that in mind and you also think about who you are bringing with you, if there are small children, it's gonna be very tricky. >> yeah, as an individual choice, no chairs will be allowed inside. it's is it a moment to take a small child, given the length of time you're expected to queue, and given the atmosphere in the room, given what you'll be expected to do?
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it will be a personal choice, clearly. but there is no, you know, actual rule on that. but possibly, not the best time to bring in a small child, given that they will be waiting in line for hours. >> for example, as we've seen previously, people might bring sleeping backs, folding chairs, when they're waiting a long period of time. >> some interesting question. we've seen slipping backs here, for sure. you won't be allowed to count in that queue, it will be moving queue. there's limited storage. if you go to the palace of westminster, there will be a storage place there, but not much. so, small back, 40 centimeters by 30 centimeters is the exact dimension. anything bigger than that you'd have to put it in the storage. so i think they want this queue to keep going. we even asked to have it easily open-able, so an easy zip, or an easy fastening to open that, because security want to check and get you through, and get on to the next person. >> yeah, and as you pointed out, you can't give it to someone else, it's your space. >> no, you have that respect. it stays on your wrist. you have to take it off as soon as you leave westminster hole.
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>> thanks very much indeed. and that's as far as which is on wednesday from 5 pm until 6:30 am on the monday of the funeral which is a week today. but what about what is happening today? let's take a closer look at ahead for king charles. i've done 25 this morning, he will address both houses of parliament. that is at westminster hole. when members will meet to express their condolences after the queen's death. charles iii will then fly to edinburgh and to his late mother's coffin at holyroodhous. and then the king, the queen consort, of course, and queen elizabeth's three other children will walk alongside the coffin in a precession two st giles'cathedral. a service and prayer of reflection will be held there. the queen's coffin will lie in state at st giles'cathedral 4:24 hours with a public allowed to the site to pay their respects. later, the king will make the scottish finance minister,
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nicola sturgeon, and he's received condolences from members of scotland's parliament. across the street, as the coffin traveled through scotland yesterday, two holyroodhous, out of buckingham palace. king charles iii was met by more supporters and mourners. here's a reporter. >> looking will start the first full week of his reign as the first weekend ended, in mourning and ottawa. -- mourning and at work. in parliament and public, securing the political and public popular consent that his mother could take for granted. the day will begin with an address to the members of the lords of commons in westminster hall, before he travels to scotland to rejoin the queen on her final journey. it began in near silence, birdsongs, the only
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accompaniment, as the herd left balmoral on the slow road south. people lining the route to see the coffin even in rural aberdeenshire, along with the guard of tractors. and horses. in nearby -- they counted the queen a neighbor. >> to be honest, very proud to be here. and very proud to be so respectful to the queen and the royal family. >> i think it's the end of an era. you know, it seems a very somber moment. >> it's very important to come along and just to show some respect, and -- ♪ ♪ ♪ >> across the four nations there were proclamations and pageantry. >> god save the king! ♪ ♪ ♪ >> three cheers and a gun
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salute for the monarch. >> [noise] [inaudible] >> and in cardiff, and belfast. the king will visit them all in the coming days, but his first stop is edinburgh where the coffin arrived yesterday afternoon. today, king charles will lead a procession to st giles'cathedral, where the queen's body will lie in state for 24 hours. the start of a week of public display here and in london, after a final night among family. paul, at the palace of holyroodhous, sky news. >> i'm pleased to say that historian anthony is here with me. good morning, thank you for joining us on the program. where were you when you got the
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news about the queen's death? >> i was in a studio and i suddenly just, it just shocked me. i mean, like everybody. you knew it was coming. but when you heard the news, how could you feel anything of it? it's just shocking. it's surprising, is how i put it. absolutely, he completely knew that that was happening, but it's personal. it's personal, it's national, you heard about her all my life. she's always been there. and you start thinking about what is next, and what it all means, and that historians brains start kicking in from the personal, and what is gonna happen to king charles. and then, what's gonna happen to the monarchy. and will the monarchy survive? they cause monarchies everywhere are in decline. i mean it's a dying brand
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globally. 100 when she came to the throne, and only 25 outside the commonwealth, when she died. >> do you think that charles, to what extent do you think charles is very -- >> i think he's very aware of it. and i think he feels that responsibility very much to renew it. to ensure that those many forces -- i mean, and away, how can you just justify a monarchy, when democracy, everyone having a vote, and everyone being equal, how can you possibly justify that, and yet, she showed that it can't be relevant. she showed that her really functioning monarchy can support democracy. where the rest of the world, monarchies are absolute and tyrannical. or they're just irrelevant. she's shown that it can be a welfare monarchy, supporting good causes, bolstering a sense
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of national identity and the commonwealth, and a sense of common history, and at times of crisis, he's gotta fight his own spin on that. i think he's very aware. i think he's thinking about for many years. >> we know that the queen, from becoming queen to being crowned was what, 14 months, we don't know how long it will be. we don't know one of the coronation will be. but given the situation in kabul tree, it will have to be anytime soon, it will have to be much -- >> well, yeah. i mean, there is never a good time for her to die. it's a very sad that it happened at a moment of economic crisis and fuel concern and inflation, and great instability. >> the war in europe, indeed. >> i mean, she came to public consciousness as a symbol with a parent during world war ii. and she dies with the prospect of world war iii being, you know, a possibility. so, never a good time.
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and yet, it will be the greatest occasion of national leaders meeting in the 21st century. i mean, there is no way that you can avoid that. it's quite how you do a slim and fit coronation. i think it will take all the planning for that's been going on for years and years, getting all the latest together, think it all through. i mean, i will expect it will be next summer. and i don't think it will be slimmed down. and to all the critics, you will justify that by saying, in part, by singing, the massive boost to tourism. i mean, no leads or anywhere in the world has viewed this, coming in next monday at the funeral. and again, the coronation. and indeed, during this week, people are glued in a sense, she is the world's, she was the world's monarch. and this is the world's monarchy. >> it struck me, i was away when the news happened,
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obviously, i was on sky news on my laptop. and it struck me that and then prince of wales-hyder, and his level of responsibility where suddenly very heavy on the shoulders the weight of responsibility, when he realized that, obviously he's been prepared for what was about to happen to his mother, and then, to him during the falls of time. but it struck me that he was overwhelmed. i think he was. , and i think you could see that in his face. and i'm sure that it really brought back incredibly sad memories. at least, not the hind this outside of the palace with the death of his mother. almost exactly, 25 years ago when he was 15. so that of anybody tends to remind us of tragedies that we've all known in our lives of children, siblings, grandparents. and, you could clearly feel that. and yet he's had a really good -- he has prepared himself, mental
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health, environment, the homeless. i mean he's right up there with courses that surely only the most meaningful house of people can say that, no, that's not a good cause. that is not something for a future monarch. and the president, the new prince of oils to identify. with an, and he is authentic. he clearly believes it. he is a very heart driven person. >> yes, he is. saying thank you to the crowds. also, we were struck by the princess royal, now 70, i think, and she was only prince charles and princess amber with the queen when she died up in the late very close to her brother, the king. >> and he will need. that because it is incredibly -- all top -- so the fact that he does have that security of a loving relationship with her and with siblings at who his very close, to that would make a big
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difference to him in what he's got coming ahead. and clearly, he is a stronger man, a much stronger man for having the women that he's always loved by his side. and you could see that, there was a sense of naturalists. >> i agree. >> did you feel that? >> yes, i was also touched when her mother's coffin when into hollywood house. >> yes, absolutely. >> thank you very much. >> absolutely. >> and, of course, we will continue to cover event for you here on sky news later on today. we will see the king, again, when he addresses both houses of comments and lloyd before heading back up to scotland to walk around the royal mile with this other siblings and taking his mother's cough into a service at st. charles's cathedral. so,, more of that to come. but of course, there are other events around the world, as we
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were alluding to ukraine. as you're seeing, russian forces have attacked infrastructure. including a power station, as they abandoned position in the east of the country. the city of kharkiv, appeared to be under complete block out on sunday night as cars drove through darkened streets. ukrainian officials say that russia struck a thermal power station, causing a huge fire, responding by the telegram platform, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said this to russia's leaders. >> cold, hunger darkness and thirst and not as terrible and deadly for us as your friendship and brotherhood. but history will put everything in its place, and we will be with, gas light, water and food and without you. it comes after a major ukrainian counter offensive over the weekend. as we've taken huge sections of territory from russian forces in a short space of time. ukraine's chief commander says 1160 square miles, which is shown there in yellow for, you mostly to the left of the screen, they have now been
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liberated since the start of the month. and that ukrainian troops are within 30 miles of russia's border. britain's defense ministry says that -- likely withdrawn unit from the kharkiv region. but fighting continues around the strategically important cities of kobe against an easier. our security and defence editor, that's debra hanks reports on one of the recaptured times in kharkiv province. morning, her report includes images of the bodies of some of the victims killed when the russians took over. ukrainian forces are on a roll. russia's frontline, quite literally crumbling. the control of land they thought to capture, now, gone in ukraine's lightning advance. access to this area is still heavily obstructed. but the police have agreed to take us to a village that until three days ago, was under russian control. the residents in zaliznychne seemed quite dazed by what's happened.
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he lived through the second world war. and then six months of terror under the russians. >> [speaking non-english] >> across the street police are finally able to investigate russia's suspected war crimes. they come to retrieve the bodies of two men. both have been shot dead in the semi detached house, where one of the victims lived. his next door neighbor found the men and had to bury them in the garden. >> [speaking non-english] maria showed us her end of the property. and where it had been hit by shrapnel during the occupation. >> that must of been really scary for you. >> [speaking non-english]
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there has been no power in this village for months. with winter coming, she is scared of the cold and the possibility of the russians returning. >> [speaking non-english] >> there have been a lot of dark times. a local industrial site is also a crime scene. the police climb up to retrieve the body of the security guard shot dead in late february as the russians advanced. left to rot. now free, residents described russia's chaotic retreat. >> [speaking non-english] >> his neighbor's son sums up the mood.
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>> [speaking non-english] >> but there is also much trauma. russian soldiers shot this man 's brother, dead. he doesn't know why. >> the memory, too painful. [speaking non-english] >> his brother, laid to rest here. awaiting justice. debra haynes, sky news, in kharkiv region. we have the chief of the general stuff. hello to you my lord. thank you for joining us on the program this morning. what is your interpretation of what is happening in ukraine at the moment? >> well, we are witnessing some incredible scenes. the russians atrocity has
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suffered a significant setback, and the ukrainians have been pretty clever in what they have been doing. if you remember,, over the last few, weeks we have been talking about a possible counter offensive in the south around the area of. kherson and everyone took a seriously. indeed there had been some counter offensive moves in the south. it was played up to be the big counter offensive, such that the russians deployed some of their better troops away from the north to counter this. a potential offensive in the south. but, in fact, what the ukrainians had in mind all along was actually this major attack by, not in the south, but actually the north in the kharkiv area. and that is what has unfolded to massively very successfully in the last few days. they pulled off an operational level of surprise. quite a significant thing to be able to. do but after that the russians have pretty much turned inflamed that area of ukraine. kobe and, which is one of their
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major live just a cubs, has fallen through many of the railway tracks bringing supplies to the russian, conversion in that part of the. world and indeed the challenges that is. well they have both fallen. and that is a significant reverse for the russians, a great success for the -- ukrainians. and the president zelenskyy is saying, they will do more. but they will continue to need more and more western arms and ammunition in order to be able to keep the pressure up. but there has been no doubt that this is a significant improvement in the second stance, it is great for the people that we were just talking to but just look at the map. although the ukrainians have made significant advances, there is a lot of the country that is still in russian occupation. so, there's a long way to go. >> yes, and as far as the blackouts are concerned that we've been hearing about that can cause no and of problems. not only for civilians. but also for the military. >> yes, of course you're right, but what we are seeing is the russians reacting in their typically heavy hand and way.
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they know that they had a significant reversal on the battlefield so they are lashing out in other ways to try and restore their position. , and the attack, or the past, a shunt which is reduced that part of the hockey area to darkness is a typical example of the blindly lashing out with everything that they possibly can to try and re-assert themselves. but i think that experience shows, looking right back through history, if you are trying to win a war by carrying the opposition's public, it just does not work. , and the resistance, the attitude that you are seeing from the ukrainian people is that there is they don't like the darkness, they don't like the lack of warship. but they will not break through. they will not break our spirit. and i think that is the other critical issue. morale in ukraine, morale amongst the ukrainian forces is sky-high. when amongst the russian forces, it is terribly. lo and, turning and running, and fleeing and base hospitals being able to run and
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evacuating, these are science, while i was gonna say an army in panic. certainly a army in disarray. putin and his senior generals have got a real problem to know how to stabilize the area in the north. i, mean the ulterior is that numbers will be such as they will. but there is no getting away from the fact that they have suffered a major -- at the moment. >> but putin is, i suppose, potentially at his most dangerous when he is cornered and, thus, the same for his army. >> you're right. and i think you're probably suggesting the question of will he upped the ante possibly in a new killer way? well i would hope that he will not do that, i think that he has other options. he's always called this a special military operation. and he's tried to use, in, place forces. he has got the option if he thinks politically that could
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get away with it by declaring war with the change regulations and changed a law in russia that that would bring. we are, but he could bring in prescription. he could start to mobilize other parts of the russian military to try and stabilize the front. but there is great political risk in him doing. that so far, he's managed to contain what the russian people know about this calling operation that he has begun. but, if he goes down the track of calling it a war, it fully mobilizing his country, bringing in prescription and the political states for him become increasingly high. then maybe he won't do that. >> president-elect ski has said that the next three months are critical as we head into the wintertime. would you agree with that? >> yes, i think that actually every, day it's critical every week at the present moment. the period of maneuver can continue during, what's an increasingly what canary period on the ground.
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and, as we get closer to the end of the year, the temperature will. drop the crowds will freeze. and that will make conditions very difficult. but it does actually mean that the movement can start again. i think that the circumstances, as such, that i would expect to see continuing movement now and then probably the work going into a fairly period of state over the worst of the winter. and then we'll see what happens again next spring. because the russians have been trying to add a larger force. they're putting together a third army call which is a force that they're trying to recruit and train and put back into the field next spring because of the pressure on them. they tried to put some of those units already in the field. only partially trained, and the thing is spiraling out of putin's control. as a, said we'll see more within the next few, weeks of slowing down within the help of the winter. and then maybe within the spring. >> before i let, you go,
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myeloid a thought on the passing of the queen. what impact does it have on the military when there is a new sovereign? >> well it has an impact on all of us in the country. but i think it has a particular impact on members of the armed forces. but just been made at the fact that when we join the air force, or whatever, we swear an oath to allegiance. after, that on the 20th of august -- queen elizabeth ii. but actually the phrase also is part of that. both so, seamlessly, when the queen breeds her last on, thursday our allegiance soldier of the queen immediately became soldiers of the queen, and that is a very special link that the military has. and, we carried out operations by lamb, not through the name of the government, a prime minister or a secretary of defense.
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we do it in the name of the sovereignty and the people of this country. that is a very special, link, a very special bond. and actually i think it makes us very special, as a result. >> indeed. thank you so much for taking the time to join us on the program this morning. thank you. >> thank you. >> well, today, the queen's coffin will be taken from the palace of holyrood house along two st giles'cathedral. i dal is standing outside st giles'cathedral for us this morning. hello to you a dal, what's the plan? >> a big spectacle planned today. a number of different events, and points to mark throughout the day. already, people are lining up here along the royal mile, and it happened since 10:30 pm last night. to secure their place ahead of this huge spectacle we are expecting here in seven, eight hours. we first expect to see the
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queens coffin to leave holyroodhous at the bottom of the royal mile, and at around 2:30 pm this afternoon, it will be escorted by her son, king charles iii and his siblings brought all the way up here. and the queen concert and other members of the royal family will follow in cars. and when they arrive here, there will be a special service, thanksgiving and reflection for the queen's. life and then, the cathedral itself will be opened up to the public, and they would be able to file past the queen's coffin and pay their respects in the way they deem fit. and that will be in place for about 24 hours. and later on this evening, as well, there will be a very moving and a poignant moment when individual, the so-called, vigil of princes will be held around the queens coffin. when her children will form a guard around it for a certain amount of time, and it will be reserved solely for them. there's also some suggestion that the grand children will
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also form their own vision as well. but when the vigil of princes goes ahead, that will make the third vigil of princes in history. the last time we saw that was in 2000 into, when the queen mother died. and so, after that, the public will be allowed again to file past, and the queen's coffin will be here until about 5:00 tomorrow. >> okay, thank you. covenant secretary for the external affairs and culture joins us now from hollywood palace hello to you, thank you for joining us on the program. this morning, the queen arresting their overnight, sting for another night in scotland before returning to london to lie in state at westminster holub. an incredible amount of planning needs to go interior events like this which has been happening for many years, even plan should her majesty die in scotland, tell us more. >> well, indeed, plans needed
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to be made for this kind of eventuality, and the british government in scotland and the cabinet office in london have been working on, closely to make preparations for an event. i think most of viewers will be aware that the queen is has spent quite a lot of time. and in scotland, and edinburgh, she was at holyrood palace, attending parties and social events and taking place. and then, at her beloved balmoral. so, there was always a significant chance that whenever the monarch would die, it would happen in scotland. and that's why all of the preparations that we are now saying come to fruition took place over many years to make sure that given the scale of the morning and the fact that it will be the first death of a monarch in scotland sixth the
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16th century. and then, i would have to think long and hard about the funeral route and the way in which the public should be able to come witness the queen's journeys south, and that's what we are seeing in these days. >> okay, according to an operation aimed unicorn, obviously, the unicorn, symbol of scotland. tell me about the ceremony at hollywood house today, what form will that take? >> well, what's happening today is that the queen's coffin will process from holyrood palace, the official residence of the monarch in scotland, and for people who don't know, it's in the bottom of the royal a mile. it will possess up the royal mile, at the main street of medieval edinburgh.
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and halfway up, we've seen giles cathedral behind the kirk of edinburgh, which is where her coffin will be taken to for a national commemorative service. and i expect it to be thousands of people on the royal mile. and i saw yesterday when her coffin arrived from balmoral. and then, king charles iii will attend a special commemorative, and sitting off the scottish parliament. the first minister nicola sturgeon and presiding officer alison johnstone, as well as the king, we'll address following that, as we've previously heard. there will be vigils that will also take place with the coffin itself. >> it's interesting. hollywood house, palace of hollywood, it's different places, of course, on that? >> they are.
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but i think they reflect the history of the royal family. it's an excellent exceptionally important part of scotland's history. and it goes back but, going back centuries. and i think the fact that the queen's coffin is returning and will pass in many places with which she was associated on that route from balmoral, and through the holyrood, were her mother was from, and grew up in angus, coming down to the national capital, where he spent much time. and the stories in edinburgh are a legion of her majesty the queen, and taking herself for a walk up her seat, and surprising tourists and locals
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alike. and their association with edinburgh has been exceptionally strong, as it is been in the other places that are close to her heart. >> you are cabinet secretary for the constitution, of course. what affects this the change of monarchy have in the running of government? >> well, in terms of running government, it doesn't have any direct impact. but it's one of the, one of the important priorities of having a constitutional monarchy is not involved in government per se. and what we are seeing at the moment is a seamless transition from queen elizabeth to king charles. of course, the government needs to work with the royal household. there is a privy council. i'm a member of it. and there are ways in which one works together. i have responsibility in the
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scottish government for the royal sorts. i have a wide range of ways in which the ceremonial representative duties of the royal household are very important part of our national life, and that will continue in scotland as it will in the rest of the uk. >> okay. it's good to talk to you. thank you so much for taking time to join us. good luck with events today. thank you. images from hollywood. the queen lying there peacefully. and until a service at st giles'cathedral later on today. joining us now is the chair and community council who was met the queen several times, and met king charles ii just last sunday. hello to you, thanks for joining us on the program. tell us about meeting the king last week. >> well, last sunday, we had a special consult, and all church
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-- to celebrate the 30th anniversary of classic fm. and the canadian -- prince charles then came along and join us. he met a few of us as he entered the building, and he sat and enjoy the concert presented by the royal scottish national orchestra who came to balmoral. so, it was a wonderful event. we had a packed theater. so as you can imagine, we invited guests who came along. and it was just a great celebration of his time, and in classic fm itself. how quickly things change, how different it is today from what it was last week! >> what kind of relationships did the queen, who i think you also had met, you have a personal connection with her. what sort of relationship did she have with the villages surrounding balmoral? >> well, i wouldn't claim i had
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a special relationship with her. but i met with her on a few occasions. she was fond of the life cycle, and she would arrive here at the beginning of august for some of her holidays. she had spent a couple of months. and then moving in and out of balmoral. during that period, she will take part in various events. and with her daughter low kamila, everyone believes she was happy and relaxed. and people will tell lots of stories about the queen, a lot of members of the royal family simply walking around the town in balmoral. or walking around edinburgh. it was very informal, as a relationship, and one that people will certainly miss. >> you are able, though, to pay your respects, and to the queen privately yesterday. what the new? >> yes, a number of us were very privileged to go down to balmoral and they are respects
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the queen. so, we were told to arrive sometime between three and 5:30, and on saturday afternoon, because we'll, to my surprise, we were late into the castle. we walked through the corridors, and the door opened up into the ballroom, and they're in the ballroom was the coffin, draped in the standoff. surrounded by a vigil of two soldiers and two members of the local a state. and there were people, and i had imagined we would go there we would wait to file past the coffin. we had a very passionate intimate few minutes along with the coffin. it was a very special time. >> okay. a memory that will stay with you for a very long time. thank you very much indeed for sharing that with us this morning, very much appreciated. thank you. >> alasdair is standing by with
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us, for some flowers that have been initially put in front of the palace. and now,. just behind us it green park, i should say, what's been going on that? >> morning, okay. it's nearly quite remarkable sight, all these flowers being laid out here, and really quite moving. i mean, obviously, as always on the side, but if you just pan over the, side there's even more there's tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of flowers that have been left here by people, stopping by on their way to work. i've seen people stopping by in the middle of the runs to come and take it all in. and there are others who have gone up earlier to come and pay their respects. and we can chat to some of them now. i'm joined by catherine and margaret, who come from surrey. you got a 6:00 trying to get here, beat the cues. good idea, i think it will be very busy later on if it was
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anything like yesterday. catherine, first, tell me why you felt the need to come? >> well, like everyone else, it's to pay my respects. the strange thing is that now we are here, and you see the tributes, and i think it's just beginning to sink in what we've lost, and how much she will be missed. >> do you agree? >> i agree. i came here to, obviously, by my respects, but she was just one of the greatest leaders of our time. and i wanted to pay my utmost respects, and when you come here, and see what she means to everybody, how could anyone think that she wasn't fantastic? when she spent a time on the throne for that long, she was always there for us. >> catherine, this is clearly an emotional time for ye no. what was it like when you heard the news? >> i think like everyone, i remembered where i was, what i was doing when i heard the news. funnily enough, i was on a phone call with a dear friend,
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and all of a sudden, i saw buckingham palace flag go to half mast. and even though, in a way, we know the queen couldn't go along forever, it was just such a shock. i mean, it shook me, rigid, frankly. >> and why is that? why do you such a deep connection? >> well, as margaret said, she just always been there. and i have to say this, but she saw the coronation on television. and i've, asked where the queen, she's always been with me, and everyone else throughout my tire life. and as many have said, she never put -- both in this country not on the international stage she was just a well-loved and respected. i think there's going to be deep mourning all around the world and there's going to take britain quite a long time to get over it. having said, that i think that king charles will be a great monarch. and he addressed the nation, and his address was fantastic.
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and i think a lot of us now feel that we are in safe hands. a lot of us no feel that we a re in safe hands will you be sticking around to get a glimpse of him before he leaves this morning? >> yes, absolutely. just like catherine, said his speech was fantastic. and, you know his mother tough to do the things that he's doing right, now to carry on with duty, fantastic! really fantastic! >> all right, thank you very. much some flowers have been left here, people are leaving balloons and the north to the kind of marmalade sandra just that the queen pulled out of her bag in the sketch would patted and bear. they're asking to only bring unwrapped flowers in an effort to make it more sustainable. and i think that there will be a lot more coming today. >> okay, thank you so much indeed. i came back down to the pelvis, again tomorrow, it is here with me as, well more crowds.
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and, yes compared to an hour ago. but still, it's still quite a quite atmosphere. i think that we are seeing people making their way to work and stopping to look at the palace, and look at some of this. you're not supposed to leave many tributes but there are some candles, and some messages that people have stopped to look at. >> yes, i wonder if we could have a wonder alone and have a look at some of the other people that are here as well as tomorrow, the. same just pausing for a moment or two and reflecting on how the impact of the queen on their lives with this -- as i was saying, if you are with us earlier. she really has been a constant throughout my life. and throughout so many other people's lives here in the united kingdom. that is one of the floral tributes, there, that, tomorrow we're talking about people being asked to, if they want to leave, them to leave them in gruene park. susan, her majesty the, lord is also with us this.
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morning hello. >> good morning. >> good morning, how do you feel being down here this morning? >> well, it is just an incredible experience to see the people down here with tributes beginning to build. and just to be close to buckingham palace. >> talk to me about your role and what the queen meant to you. >> the role, the lieutenant tenant. so it's a really ancient. roll it back to henry the eighth where we were responsible for the law and order in the county. and also raising the local army. but nowadays, we are the personal representative of his majesty. we are there to uphold the -- of the crown. but probably, nowadays, and actually you will see the lord left tenants as many of the clips that you've seen recently, by the side of the queen is somebody wearing the badge of office, as i'm, doing or somebody in the uniform, and they're there to support the. queen, but more generally the
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role of a lord lieutenant is to shine a light on everything that is good in the county, the people, businesses voluntary sector to support the uniform services. >> you are in the role are to? >> yes, i was actually made lord lieutenant yesterday at midnight. and of course, less than 48 hours later, sadly, the queen. died at, and so, -- >> how do you ever had an opportunity to meet her? >> i have never met. her and that was so sad. but i'm hoping that i will meet the king in future years. but, interesting lee,, like the monarchy, i guess -- it is just seamless. so for one minute i was her majesty's lord lieutenant. and i just moved to be his majesty lord the tenant.
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>> i'm just going to take, you thank you very much indeed for taking the time to join us. >> thank you. >> oh, look, who have we got here? >> this is jen and james. >> yes, and mark. >> how old are you? >> -- >> are you going to talk to me? i'm going to come down. i may not be able to get back up again. hello, did you bring a note? >> we did. >> can i have a look? show me! >> show her how you drew a picture of the queen inside. >> you drive picture of the queen? let me have a look. all! look at that! i haven't got my glasses so could you please read it for me. >> thank you for putting the great into great britain. you will be missed love, jennifer, mark and james. >> and that is a picture that he. drew it is so lovely. why did you decide to come here today guys? let me just pop this back. and >> it's just a really sad time, i. think and we want to pay our respects. she's been a great leader.
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and, it's just important. i think the monarchy is part of our heritage and part of our culture. so there's more to come. >> what do you think by? >> how could you not come? and it's so close to here. so to actually not come -- i mean also the tributes that everybody else has made in the flower garden. just what she meant to all these people, and to exercise our rights here every weekend, just coming to the buckingham palace, even though no one has eaten but it's the place to come. >> -- also, back in june when we were all gathered here in much happier times. it >> was a completely different. time so, we stayed at home we watch did on tv we saw the flights pass, and then one of the flights came right over the house. it was a real celebration. and then a few months later -- >> three months! >> it wasn't long at, all but we just had to come come and say thank you. >> how difficult do you think it's going to be for charles to take over the mental from his
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mother? >> i think that he has got a tough overhead. but i think people are warming to him more than, you know -- i think that we're all looking forward to see what he's going to do, and the changes he will. make >> and william, certainly stepped up to the, plate hasn't? >> yes, family do all that they. can they come together. and william has taken a tough -- he's changed in the last few years he's become much more good with the public life. i think it will be a great support to. charles it's good to see that line coming, and with three children as. well so, hopefully -- >> -- >> starting the school week together. >> a gorgeous little boy aren't, you gorgeous. quite quiet aren't you? i'll let you get on. thank you so much. thank you. thanks so much indeed. i've got a family over here, a low, high! hi! your name? >> melissa.
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>> antonio. >> zoe. >> beautiful name. why did you feel like you wanted to come along? >> well, it wasn't supposed to be like this. we were going to roam, and, while this happened. we changed our flight in order to get here because it takes a lot to do that. >> where are you coming from? >> mexico. >> so what we did is that we stayed 12 hours at the airport in order to get the next flight. and here we are. >> why was it so important to come? >> well, especially to show her and she can, you know, learn about respect and all that is around the queen. >> amazing. >> what do you remember the queen, zoe? come around this way so we could see. just this way, there you go. what do you remember about the queen? >> that she -- is >> she was very beautiful wasn't she? and she had a beautiful crown, and everybody loved her? >> yes.
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>> and, i bet that you know quite a lot about kate, don't you? and megan, the person's is. very beautiful as well. we saw lots of pictures of. them and this is our beautiful palace. >> yes. >> it's absolutely stunning, isn't it? buckingham palace! >> she was impressed. >> first time for. her >> and the queen will be coming back here tomorrow. she will be resting here tomorrow. and then up into westminster, which is just over there, where the palace westminster's. and you could file past if you would like to. but it might take a long time. maybe not for the little one. but, we are expecting up to 1 million people to do that. it gives you an idea of how much she was loved. >> yes, that is what we're trying to teach. or because we were talking about the queen and the monarchy. and she was like, but how is it? then, that is why we came. so, she was very surprised to see people crying about the queen. >> yes. >> and we are trying to explain to her that it was really
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important for the london people and the uk. >> yes. well, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i remember, diana dying back in 1997, and i took my little boy to kensington palace, and he was still in his book at the time. and he was queuing, and he said, why are you here mommy. and he said, we are here to tell the princess that we will look after her. boys and they, said what happened to the princess? and they, said sadly she has died. and, they said why doesn't the prince kristen wicker up again. >> oh my gosh, like a fairytale? >> yes, i know. >> it's a big thing for lots of little children you know. a lot of little children's books she isn't. it's a big thing for family. and you really get that sense of people down. here >> yes, we do, let's bring in virginia and. tina >> high. >> how are you feeling? >> a bit subdued, isn't it? it's a very sad time. >> it is a set. time >> i was reflecting on it with tamar earlier.
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and i was away when i first heard the news. very soft, but not surprised. but now i sort of started to think about the queen, the memories of her that i will take with me. i'm guessing she's been a constant your whole life. >> definitely. i am from kenya. my background is from kenya. and i looked at all the photos when she went to kenya. and i was quite young. that but, it brings back a lot of memories. so, yes, 70 years of rain, she has done a lot. >> what about you tina? >> i actually came to the jubilee as well. i was on the stage over there. >> that was in mexico? >> no, that was the previous. one and i had seen her when she was in parliament before. it is very sad. very, very. said i came on friday, there was more flowers than. i know that they have to move the flowers, but it would be lovely to see more. all out and about. it is going to be a change. a definite change. >> how are we feeling about charles? >> very good.
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i, mean he's always been in the limelight, anyway. so, to see him at the throne, i think that that is really, really good. and he has been there for years, and years. he's going to follow his mom's footsteps. really happy to see him. >> he's got passion. >> he's got a passion for the country, for the wildlife, everything around him. >> and will you go to the lying and state? are you trying to go to westminster hall? >> we were talking about that. i don't know if we'll be able to. >> it's going to be something like 1 million people, potentially. 24 hours. today >> we actually worked for tough, else or actually going to be working at the station. >> a bit busy wanted? >> yes. >> well, we'll be thinking about you. thank you very much. a lot to carry on with your day. thank you very much indeed. thanks a lot. we have seen tens of thousands of people here already, haven't we? >> absolutely, it's really picked up from the last hour. but, it's interesting how people are obviously on their way to work. but they see some of these flower tributes in stock, and
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they just take a moment to look at them. all before going on their way. there is a sense that there's a piece of history, and something that people want to witness even if they haven't come down here specifically for that reason. >> as i was saying, the queen will be coming, they bought the ballroom, right here where she will rest overnight. , and just tell me what the queen and the king council will be. doing >> we're going to have a look around. >> we're going to be going to the house of parliament today. there will be an address by both houses, at the speaker of, the lords the speaker of the comment will both be greeting king charles. we'll, remember the and p had a two, dates they had to date the bag. and they will be telling and pledging their gents to the new. king and he will be responding and thanking them to their tributes. and they will be talking about britain's parliamentary to
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tradition. this will be a big part of him. he was a part of a few months ago, standing in for the queen. it's a, mother when she could not attend the state opening of parliament due to health issues. but, this will be his first address to both houses as king. and i'm sure mps and pierce will be absolutely packed into westminster halting here. that it will be happening just after 10:00. he will be arriving at westminster. we'll probably see the car the plants house, where he was overnight. and, then it won't take to meng. because, of, course king charles and the queen consulate, camilla, will have to fly to scotland, to edinburgh to attend the memorial service for the queen. that will be happening around 3:00. there but, significant moment in westminster. halt the oldest bit of parliament where mps in paris will pack into him. >> yes, indeed. so just taking a moment to have a look around.
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just seeing people mingling around and it's sinking, in i suppose. now originally, it was a shock that her died, very quickly. we saw the scenes, didn't we? all in the house of commons when we saw, i think it was nadim zahawi who rushed to the side of the prime minister to tell him that the queen was grateful. >> yes, so we now understand that she actually may have known that before she even went to parliament, this was reported over the weekend. she found out the queen was gravely ill at about 9:30. and it would appear that the dnc how he was telling, they went later to tell the rain in the palace to issue a statement immediately. so that the public would then be aware. and that would kick off a process of it being covered in the media. people being aware of her illness. so, it sounds like she had some knowledge of it already, before going to parliament to do our energy statement, you had no hint of it and list trust is
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demetre that she knew something very, very big was about to happen. so, she then found out that there was going to be announced publicly, but we know that the prime minister was informed of the queens that a 4:30 in the afternoon. all before it made its way to the public. so, yes, despite all the preparations. and you can see the plan being dusted off. although, the company have only been in place for a couple of days. they are all falling up plan telling them what to do and i have spoken -- they said it's on, reels everybody knows what they're doing. very good morning to you from buckingham palace. it is 8:00 on monday the 12th of september. her final journey, king charles prepares to lead a poignant procession alongside his mother 's coffin. a new detail

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