you are seeing a live look on the left-hand side of your screen, at the motorcade of king charles iii, just leaving the vigil for the late queen elizabeth, at historic saint jils cathedral in edinburgh, after a procession down the royal mile earlier today, as you can see the cars coming down the stretch, thousands of scottish people, sigh len and somber with this vigil, the last event in scotland after the queen's death in the country last week. her body is set to be moved to london's buckingham palace tomorrow. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent keir simmons who is outside the palace and andrew roberts, joining us as well. so here, an emotional last few minutes, as we've seen this last event in scotland, before the remembrances move to where you are in london, in a matter of hours here. you can see king charles and the queen consort there waving it looked like from the car. >> that's right.

you're right. very, very somber moments, around 15 minutes, a vigil, around the queen's coffin, of princess, princess ann, prince charles, prince andrew, prince edwards, the queen's children standing there, in silence heads bowed maintaining that vigil and something the queen wanted, will have planned, and perhaps not necessarily in scotland, there were different plans depending on where she died, but we have been saying all day, wherever she is now, and wherever her soul is, she will have been very much enjoying seeing this opportunity that the fact that she died at balmoral has afforded scotland to pay respects to her. you sea her, her body slowly travel through edinburgh, in silence, and so silent, that you

could hear the hooves of the horses, and that silence from the thousands of scottish people who came to see her and say goodbye, spoke volumes, and they came to i think to see the new king, and they once again, with the enormous pageantry and very, very personal moments, and that's what we just saw a moment ago. there will be another vigil like that, here in london, when her body tomorrow is brought here, to london. and actually will come here, to buckingham palace behind me, before it then moves to the palace of westminster where she will lie in state and more people will be able to pay their respects. and i really thought it was incredibly touching, none of us expected what we just saw, was the ordinary folks, you and me, anybody who is prepared to line up, or to cue, as we call it here, to stand in line, able to file past and pay their respects, even while the queen's

children were standing there with their heads bowed, and i just thought that was a quintessentially british kind of pomp, but relaxed, people very close to the most senior members of the royal family, having the most private of moments, just really was an extraordinary move. >> andrew, what struck you from the moments that we've seen here at the cathedral? >> well, i think very much the air of dignity, and i think specifically the look on their faces, one of sadness of course, and the way in which all of the children, including the king's daughter, the first time a woman has taken part in the vigil, another example of the

modernizing, and looking at the public, who are here, and they applauded when the coffin passed and showing dignity themselves. and they were coming out in the last few days, and will continue to do so. >> what does it mean, andrew, that there has been so much of an opportunity here for people in scotland to be able to say goodbye to the queen here? >> a huge amount. to the fact that under normal circumstances, were the queen to have died say at sandringham, windsor or buckingham palace , this would have happened, and so because she died at balmoral and it has given an opportunity for the scottish people to pay their last respects, and i think that seems where they're actually lining up, as they walk past and

you can see at the moment, there's a never-ending stream of them, who really do want to say goodbye. it is very encouraging for the future of the crown in scotland. >> i was going to ask you about that, because scotland is known to be i think fair to say less royalist than england. you've seen some polling including this summer fewer than half of the people there want to retain the monarchy and more than a third say they want to get rid of it all together after the queen's death. talk about the message that king charles needs to be portraying and is he doing it? >> i think he is doing it tremendously well. >> keeping in mind, the king, he is also a son in grief, right? in deep grief. mourning his mother. >> precisely. he is not seeing this as an election campaign and seeing it as a way to say goodbye to his mother and that look of sadness on his face as he was attending the vigil here, obviously, he is

a hugely reflective person and thinks profoundly at the future of the monarchy and now i think he is thinking about his mother and you can never guess what thoughts are going through anybody's minds but that must have been what it was truly >> i and as members of the public lined up, and some have been waiting since dawn, to get in, to be able to pay their respects to the queen, you are seeing that on your screen, walking in, walking through, and as you mentioned, there will be another opportunity for this kind of individual when the queen's body arrives in london. tell us more about the day, and the days plural to come and how she will be remembered. >> just watching those folks filing by, like that, it does give you a picture, doesn't it, of the overwhelming, i mean the way of people who want the chance to simply pay their respects shall and at the same time, having been thinking about what we've just seen, i think

back to one comment by a person, a law maker in the house of commons today, that now seems a lifetime ago, because there were so many of these events happening, and he was talking to prince charles, about his, about the royal says, our loss is great, but we know your loss is greater. and that, i think, again, just encapsulates what we're going to see in the days ahead, the queen is going to be brought down here to london, and then she will, there will be another procession, once she is here at buckingham palace. from buckingham palace to the palace of westminster, and i think it will look similar to those scenes that you have seen in scotland, but again, it is a very old-fashioned thing. but you can see on the faces of these folks, that it means a lot, that as far as possible,

and the time now, until the state funeral, people are given the opportunity to personally, not just see it on television, but personally get close and say their last words to the former monarch. and make peace with their opportunity and their need to grieve. so that, i think is one of the things you will see here, because she will lie in state for four days at the palace of westminster, westminster hall, and i mentioned, and andrew will know much more about this than i do, but you know, i mentioned that the events of earlier today, again, just the history that we are seeing, of the king going to westminster hall, a hall built 900 years ago, by the son of william the conquerer, and the place where king charles i was put on trial, and of course, ultimately evicted from

the throne by the british people. so these are not places that have always been as peaceful as we see now. but that was the process of british democracy being born, a democracy that of course became an example to the world. and it is through these rituals and this pageant that the balance of british democracy is maintained. and i think it's interesting, many people watching, british people included, will be seeing this and perhaps understanding that a little better, and it may be shifting views about king charles and the monarchy. >> andrew, can you speak to the point here, about the historic moment that we are witnessing, through the tv screen, as members of the scottish public seem to be members of the u.k., too will be seeing themselves? >> yes, well, keir is absolutely right and as keir has pointed out in the last couple of days,

in some of these things, such as the succession council and indeed in today's acceptance of the condolences in parliament, these have not been televised before. they have never been seen by anybody before. and it was behind closed doors. so it is a very new development. and people are allowing the television cameras in and for us to see what is going on. it is very exciting. >> what it tells you is that this royal family, this monarchy that we view as so traditional, and historic, and if you like, never changing, it actually does change all the time, and it has a long history of changing, and as we saw, of course the crisis around princess diana, it was a key moment where the view was that the queen herself got a little bit behind, actually for some good personal reasons, she was consoling william and harry, but the monarchy has to shift,

and they tried to do it in the, in a kind of gentle way, a little like an iceberg moving, but they have to shift, and that's i think why, i suspect why, as an historian, that's why andrew finds this so exciting because you are watching history happen, history is not a thing that is set in stone. >> there is also something to have an opportunity to see all of the royal members together, it is not only a somber and emotional and difficult moment for them, but it is an opportunity to see them in some ways interact and i know as you covered this weekend, when you saw harry and meghan and will and kate together, greeting people who had lined up to pay tribute to their grandmother. >> yes, people, anyone watching, who has lost a loved one, will know about, will have a sense of those days after they are lost,

when time seems to be frozen, and it's a moment when those old tensions in the family can dissolve a little bit, and people come together. the things that mattered in the years past just don't seem to matter anymore. now, when it comes to william and harry, we can't say that there's been a reconciliation, really all there's been a moment. and i do know in william's circle there is a sense that this was an important display of unity at a very difficult time. but that doesn't mean that looking ahead everything will be okay, if you like. and certainly, i think some aspects, of what will happen in the coming days, harry is not able to wear a uniform, because he's no longer a working member of the royal family, will continue to do so. and i think we're sort of, you know, in a calm, i won't say calm before the storm, because we don't know what's going to happen next, but certainly, a

lull, if you like. and i think that's true, too, and andrew touched on it, i think that is true, too, for the various tensions that have surrounded the royal family in the years gone by and decading gone by. those are not gone. the questions that surround the constitutional monarchy around the world, and here in britain, and in scotland, where we're looking now, but those haven't evaporated. they will come back, but again, as every family knows, when you lose a loved one, there's a period of mourning where you just stop and take it in and pay your respects, and let the challenges of the past and of the future rest for a while. >> andrew, some brief final thoughts from you, as we look ahead to what is remaining over the course of the next week here. one of the people as we're seeing member was the scottish public pay their respects to queen elizabeth at saint giles. one of the persons who will be paying their respects in person,

is president joe biden and first lady jill biden and the u.k. is backing off tough travel restrictions for leader, and fly commercial or perhaps take a bus over together, et cetera. but i think it speaks to the moment is how do you orchestrate. so most important people in the world, traveling to one location, to give their respects to a queen. >> yes, it did sound very environmentally friendly for a moment, didn't it? but in fact the foreign office has already this evening denied that president biden is going to be put in some kind of a shuttle bus. but frankly, it was quite difficult to believe that anyway. in fact, according to the foreign office, there are different ways to get to the ceremony, and i think you can take it for granted the most powerful man in the world is not going to be rubbing shoulders with people on a shuttle bus. certainly to be more dignified

than that. i don't think to make too much of that. but what we can make a lot of is the fact that the world leaders are going to be there, thankfully without mr. putin and most of the world leaders will be coming, it will be a wonderful opportunity to, for them to present the cause of civilization, as we're seeing under threat at the moment, in a positive light. and i think it will show britain in a positive light. and i think it will be a really important moment in world history. >> andrew roberts, thank you so much. keir simmonss a always. thank you. appreciate you both being with us. we will keep our eye on this farewell to the queen. and news in this country to get into including something just into us in the investigation of former president trump. just in the last couple of weeks, former president trump's legal team formally telling a judge in florida that they are opposed to the department of justice's pick for a special master in the case. we have seen their kick -- picks

on the screen. and they plan to appeal judge cannon's decision to stay the appeal of classified documents in order to appoint the special master. we have more from justice correspondent ken dilanial, ali vitali, and carol is here also. and the filing that we just received while in coverage a moment ago of a very different topic here, it is not all together surprising that the trump team would be pushing back on this special master selection appointment if you will, suggestion. >> not at all, halle. and in fact, of the two candidates, the trump team put forward, one of them is a retired federal judge from new york who has received praise from some former d.o.j. officials as somebody who would be perfectly reasonable and the justice department, the staff had a chance to name. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. unless we get bogged down in the

rather incremental development, ali, the big issue today, is the filing by the trump side opposing the justice department's appeal and request for the judge to hand back to the fbi these 100 classified documents. and what the trump team has done here is really operate a starkly different portrayal of this case and they call this basically a document storage dispute and referred to the classified documents as the alleged classified documents and they say the government has to prove that they are classified even though they had classified markings on them. they say the whole criminal investigation is unprecedented and misguide and they believe the special master should look at all of the documents, should hold no order for the d.o.j. and they claim that the d.o.j.'s claim that national security is unhinged here is overblown. they say look, if this was such a big threat, why didn't you begin a damage assessment as soon as you learned there were supposedly highly classified documents mar-a-lago in january. >> so a defiant kind of bullish

argument by the trump team and obviously the justice department objects to their justify case. they have not filed a filing yet of and now this will go to the judge whether she will rule this way for the d.o.j. >> and ken described it appropriately as defiant from former president trump's team but it is persuasive is, there reason that there is no basis for a criminal investigation under the congressional records act. do you think they have a case for making that argument? >> when i read the filing this morning, i thought to myself, we really have gone through the looking glass here. you have to remember that the purpose of a special master is to make sure that the government doesn't get to see privileged documents. now, we're talking about two kinds of privileges here that the trump team has alleged, one is attorney-client privilege and the one is executive privilege and the reason we have these privileges, we want people to talk to their lawyers or in the

case of the president, to talk to their staff in a free manner without the chilling effect that it will become public any time soon. that's fine. but if you take national security documents and put them into that rubric, they just don't fit. and that is what the justice department is saying. the justice department is saying, look, no matter what you think about the attorney-client privilege, or the executive privilege, we're not talking about that. because these are pre-existing intelligence documents that do not capture any kind of a communication between the president and his lawyers, or the president and his senior staff. or any of the staff. so why does the special master have to look at these documents at all? the justice department, although they view executive privilege very differently from the trump team, at this point they're not even arguing about that. they're saying, judge, just let us use the documents that had the word classified on it, because those don't implicate anybody kind of privilege at

all, and they are certainly not personal documents of the president's, the former president's, that we would need to return. so it is almost like the two ships are passing each other in the night and we will have to see whether the judge really gets it when she reads these filings. >> there's also an important point and you alluded to, it that mr. trump's attorney has nod sate, and ken knows as well, because we talked about what looked like a khasm in the pr, the court of public opinion push, for mr. trump, and the actual court documents, in which the former president's attorneys in their filings have not asserted that he declassified any documents. even today. >> you can argue about that. but that's an argument for another day. because first of all, the statutes that the department of justice has said they're investigating don't even require that the documents be classified. they only have to be defense-oriented documents that could be used against the united

states. so that's a bit of a red herring to begin. with and the bottom line is that this special master is only used to evaluate privilege. and i think in this case, the judge also said, oh, and by the way, look to see if there is anything that should, any personal items that should be returned to the former president. national security documents do not fall anywhere within that rubric. >> ali, let me go to you. one of the things that ken talked about was the idea of a damage assessment here and we heard from the chair of the house intelligence committee, senator mark warner saying over the weekend, they still haven't been briefed by the d.o.j. and the biden administration here. do we know what the holdup is? and talk about why it is so important to the committee that they look at some of that. >> for ken, he makes the point about when the starting bell went off for the odni to start assessing the damage here of these documents being at mar-a-lago. because of when the starting point was, this is an assessment that takes many months, and what senator mark warner was saying that he thinks that that now is

on pause, because as they're working through the special master, and it means that odni cannot be going through these documents, so where that leads the committee, both on the house and the senate side, is very much wanting the assessment from the intelligence community, but having several weeks still, and potentially months left to wait, until they can actually get it. what senator warn her sugges -- warner had suggested for example that won't get the full all encompassing damage assessment but they will get something in the interim. it speak tobacco the urgency being on the hill -- it speaks to the urgency on the hill, even though they're back from the month of august, they're back clamoring for this, and senator warner saying they probably won't have any updates on that until the house comes back and that brings news this week. and that is a conversation that is happening throughout the fall and as it pertains to what is happening on the hill, you will have lawmakers clamoring for briefings on the documents and you have the january 6th

committee, according to my reporting, expected to come back with their hearing, at the end of the month. so you're going to be following these two tracks of investigations into donald trump's simultaneously here from the hill. >> and the babdrop to all of it, ken, is the political moment we're in, right? it seems like in some ways like a tinder box, and especially on the news the arrest of a texas woman who allegedly threatened to kill the judge in the case. >> these are pretty vial vicious emails and voice mails that this woman left for the judge and arrested last week with two counts of criminal threats. and what we learned from the court records is she has a l history of doing this and at one point threatened the life of donald trump and posed as a cia operative and a navy seal and apparently has some mental health problems, so we're paying very close attention, because it's this judge in this case, but sadly, this is all too common of public figures in this

country, and this one doesn't seem like a threat that was in any danger of being carried out. >> ken dilanial, ali vitali, thank you for your reporting. great to see you for your analysis as well. thank you. appreciate it. we will take you live to ukraine with the military taking back dozens of key settlements from russia. is this a tipping point? >> the abortion rights debate taking center stage in michigan with voters making a big choice in about 60 days from now and what this could mean up and down the ballot. the january 6th committee, holding a reteet to figure out what is next for them. with new nbc news report on what to expect for the next hearing in public and who else they may hear from in private. sounds like something. ♪ when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, ♪ ♪ upset stomach, diarrhea. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief... when you need it most.

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as house members make their way back to washington today, nbc news has learned the january 6 committee will meet tomorrow to talk about next steps which

should include another public hearing probably a couple of weeks from now, according to what multiple sources are telling our nbc news team. already over the course of the eight hearings so far, the panel has tried to make the case that former president trump incited the mob that stormed the capitol on the day of the insurrection. and they've also laid out how the former president and his allies tried to overturn the legitimate 2020 election results by pressuring officials, including members of justice department, and former vice president mike pence. but with 16 weeks left, just about, for this congress, and republicans may be on the verge of taking control of the house, the pressure is on the committee to wrap up its work and make its closing argument to americans. we have more from capitol hill. julie, is that what this is going to be, this next hearing, later in september, a kind of closing argument? >> well, some of the committee members have yet to decide, and that's why tomorrow is so important. it's really the first moment that all nine members are going to get a chance to sit down and go through everything that they've gathered, including over the august recess, and everything they have left to gather, and including testimony

from witnesses that they've been trying to secure, like the former vice president mike pence, who said in august, that he would be open to potentially testifying if the committee asks, and others, like newt gingrich for example, the former republican speaker of the house, mike pompeo is one of those people that they were actually able to hear from during the august recess, so clearly, they have been busy over the last several weeks but as our team is reporting now, this hearing at the end of the month could be the final but most likely not, because they still have a lot of work to do. i should note that this hearing will be the first that liz cheney presides since she lost her primary this summer, and a lot of work to do here and essentially three months left, until possibly republicans take over the house, and this committee, and the panel gets dissolved completely. >> live for us on the hill, thank you. to ukraine, around the surprise military offensive, what may be a turning point in the war. ukraine said it is reclaiming

even more territory today. look at this map. in the northeast and the south. counter offensive was launched a couple of weeks ago and ukraine says its forces have taken back more than a thousand square miles of territory that russia had occupied. thousands of russian soldiers abandoned their weapons and ran, according to ukrainians, that their advance pushed all of the way to the russian border. nbc news has not verified independently those ukrainian claims but it is clear six months into this war ukraine is no longer fighting a purely defensive battle. let's bring in megan fitzgerald live in kyiv. russia is trying to reframe this and saying we meant to withdraw, this is part of the strategy to regroup and focus on the eastern region, the donbas which we talked about so much over the last six months. talk about the reaction in kyiv and the significance here of this ukrainian advance. >> we have been speaking with people here in kyiv for several days, and what we know about the people of ukraine is that they're incredibly patriotic.

they've always had confidence in the men and women of the military. that of course bolstered in the beginning of this war, when we saw them push the russians back from the outskirts of kyiv. but then, more so reinforced now when we see this incredible, really fast-moving advancement. keep in mind that the summer offensive was launched two weeks ago today, and what we've seen, according to the ukrainian president zelenskyy, is that they've taken back more than 1300 square miles, is what they're saying and that number of course just continues to grow. this is a counter offensive that was launched in the south. in the kherson region. >> this is an area that we saw the russians seize quickly in the beginning of this invasion. but we're really seeing big gains up in the kharkiv region, where the president is saying that they've been able to liberate dozens and dozens of these villages and settlements, and we've also been seeing some cell phone video of these soldiers capturing the moments and people are literally leaving their homes, running to these

soldiers, thanking them for liberating them, and just filled with so much emotion. these are folks who have been in occupied russian territory for months, hallie. >> thanks, meagan. >> jim, let me turn to you here. there has been a lot of talk how this is a blow for the russian military, right? which has already failed to take the capital. what does putin do next? and i think the of other big question, does this mean that ukraine can win this war? do you see this as the tide turning? >> well, thank you. i don't really see this necessarily as the tide turning. it is to early to say that. but this is certainly strategy momentum that has shifted to ukraine. they have, as you know, over the past number of months, they've been back on their heels and they've been trying to stop the progression of the russian forces into the south. now, suddenly, the momentum has changed. there is a rout going on up there in the north.

and that is an important point. a rout is like a virus. and it spreads among the forces of russia, whether they're in combat or not. and so for putin, what does he do now? the first thing he's got to do, and his military leaders, this is their responsibility, is to get a hold of discipline down, up there in the northeast, get a hold of the discipline, and stop the rout. and then they're going to have to come up with another way to open up a front against ukraine, to try to thin the ukraine ranks, to go down and oppose another russian bump. but right now i don't think they're in any state of mind to come up with anything other than to try to save the day up there in the kharkiv area. >> jim townsend, thank you as always for your perspective. appreciate it. still ahead here on the show, with president biden set to speak about fighting cancer in about 25 minutes or so, and new numbers are out for the fight against cancer for black women, cervical cancer and rates on the rise. we're live in new hampshire

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rights front and center, the latest state where the issue is on the ballot in november. we've got voters there set to decide whether abortion rights will end up enshrined in the state's thank you and with democrats hoping with that question at play, more voters will show up, they'll turn out and in turn help their candidates up and down the ballot, including the current governor gretchen whitmer. we have more on this, talking with both candidates running for governor in the state along with voters there. we're glad to have you on with this reporting. tell us what you've heard. >> ahead of the midterm elections, there is a fierce, fierce debate over abortion rights, taking place in michigan. in november, there is a ballot referendum, focused on putting abortion rights in the state constitution and a hotly contested governor's race gretchen whitmer a vocal advocate for abortion rights telling me this is about civil rights in her right and her opponent tudor dixon supporting

no abortions, and i spoke with voters and activists on both sides of the issue and take a listen to what they told me. >> how concerned are you that michigan's constitution could come to mirror the constitution of kansas. >> i'm very concerned frankly, the policies that are being put forth in this abortion amendment here in michigan are some of the most extremist policies we've seen in the entire country. >> what's at stake in this, in this election? >> being able to pick and choose when you become a mother. >> so there you have it. an opponent of abortion rights, really working overtime, to stop access to abortions, and you also heard from a woman, a voter, jessica leach, she is someone that i met, she is an opponent of abortion rights and was an an opponent of abortion rights, a long time republican and changed her mind after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade and she told she went to an abortion clinic when she got pregnant at 19 and chose to have her son cameron but adamant that every woman deserves to have a

choice, the same choice she had, because she believes that choice, weighing her options that it made her a better mother, because it gave her the opportunity to go in there, to go into motherhood with her full agency. and some democrats and frankly people across the country, there are a lot of people who if you're a supporter of abortion rights who are hoping that women like jessica turn out in big numbers in november and in michigan, across the state and across the country. >> thank you. you can see more of the report tonight on "nbc nightly news," we're looking forward to watching. thank you so much. in michigan and a lot of the country turns to the general election, you've got new hampshire, about to hold one of the very last primaries of this midterm season tomorrow. republicans looking to flip a house seat in a race that is shaping up toing a maga proxy war. with the race dividing republican leadership, and some trump republicans a super pac, with house leader kevin mccarthy

has spent $3 million in tv ads and those backing leavitt, jim jordan and ted cruz, and who it stayed out, former president trump himself. i want to bring in our reporter, and a matter of 18 hours, not even, 12 hours or so, until voters start voting there, in new hampshire. put this into context for us, on what the house race means and what you're hearing from so many candidates. >> well, look, we've talked a lot about senate races in this primary season but in new hampshire's first district, we have one of the more vulnerable democratic representatives, and the two front-runners, the republicans who will take him on in november and as you mentioned both out of trump world, both with the trump administration, both have been campaigning on those ties to donald trump, and both young candidates, you've

got matt who is 33 and caroline who is just 25 years old. and listen, this is very close to november now so whoever wins here is not going to have a whole lot of time to bridge those divisions that have come up in this very, very heated primary, where a lot of ad dollars have been spent on attacks, and a lot of both trump world and congressional leadership have been divided. you've got kevin mccarthy, endorsing one candidate. and jim jordan and elise stefanik, ted cruise behind leavitt so you see the splintering that is happening, all before november 8th. i got a chance to catch up with caroline leavitt earlier today and take a listen to how she is distinguishing herself from her opponent. >> a homegrown conservative option for republican voters heading into tomorrow and i am the best candidate to take on chris, and matt has not been a tested conservative, he failed

the only test that matters, he already walk lost to chris in the general election and we cannot afford literally to lose this seat again. >> leavitt has very much been campaigning in the trump style, a lot of fiery rhetoric, and what is interesting here, we've seen this time and again, primaries are very different from general elections, so we'll be watching whichever of these candidates wins, and how they're able to pick up the many more voters in new hampshire that are not aligned with the republican party, and especially 38% of voters are unaffiliated, so how will these candidates sort of change tacks, on be able to appeal to the moderates, that is critical to watch. >> thank you, i'm sure we will be talking again tomorrow on and election day. appreciate it. still ahead on the show, the u.k. mourning queen elizabeth's death as the monarchy's former colonies grappling with the more complicated past and starting to rethink their futures. more live on that, in just a little bit. but here at home, we also have black women getting late

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why should we? no. >> and then over in canada, you have recent poll showing people more open of the in the capital city of ottawa. you had 17 nations becoming republics during the reign of queen elizabeth. what is next? i know you don't have a crystal ball, but what are experts telling you about the monarchy and how it looks under king charles? >> reporter: right. and it's a very complicated question, even in countries like canada that is very close, has close ties to the monarchy, to the uk for many, many years. we're here at what was queen elizabeth's residence when she had -- her many, many visits here to canada. this is where people are laying flowers and signing condolence books and there is a genuine

affection for the queen. you mentioned that polling. more than a vast majority of people were in support of queen elizabeth. in that polling, which happened before her death, then-prince charles, now king charles, did not see the same type of support. here's what's what people had to told us the last few days here. >> maybe some countries remained true to the queen because she was a great person. is it going to be -- are they gonna remain true to the commonwealth? i'm not sure. >> and so you have a king who isn't as popular as his mother was here. there is definitely a sense that this is a period of mourning and so a lot of people aren't pushing to have this debate at this time. it's also important to note that because it's a constitutional monarchy, it would be very difficult for canada to split ties with the uk and with the

monarchy. and so they would need unanimous consent in all houses of parliament. also, to have the indigenous peoples, the first nation, in support of that type of move. so there would be a lot that would have to happen. we are also looking to some of the other countries, new zealand, gentleman send a ahern says she believes they will split with the monarchy in her lifetime but it's not going to be a quick thing. >> thank you. appreciate your reporting. now to a live look at the jfk library in boston am you see the microphones there. we expect see president biden in just about maybe seven, eight minutes or so deliver what he calls a cancer moonshot speech .

it comes as we are looking at new research dodd about late-stage cervical cancer. black women are being diagnosed at a rate 60% higher than white women. morgan radford sat down with a group of woman trying to fight that trend. >> reporter: good to see you. the reality is there is nothing different biologically in black women that is causing us to see these trends. instead, there are disparities in access to health care and the way that black women are getting the vaccine. take a look at a group of women i spoke to in georgia where access especially in the rural parts of the state can make it even more difficult. take a look. chanel cooper remembers those she lost to cervical cancer. >> this that lead a. she away in 2019. >> reporter: a disease she fairly escaped after being diagnosed at 37. >> by the time i had surgery it had progressed to stage 2. >> reporter: while caught early, her story is a common one. data shows black women have been overall rate of late stage cervical cancer 60% higher than the white counterparts.

women in georgia have less access to preventative treatment and lack of information about preventative hbbv vaccines and screening. that's why cooper joined a team of women called survivors. >> by a show of hands, how many of you knew what cervical cancer was before you or someone you knew had it? nobody? none of you knew. >> i never heard of it. >> reporter: their mission, to get the word out to others before it's too lachlt late. why do youty so many women in our community don't talk about this or perhaps don't know about this? >> who wants to talk about an intimate area of the body? we have to normalize those conversations. >> reporter: conversations that are even more important in rural areas. >> we have women who contact us and some of them are three hours away from a gynecological gynecologist. >> reporter: if there is one thing you could say to women

about the world about prevention, what would you say? >> get your annual exams. get them every year. if it's caught early, you can survive. you can live the rest of your life and be happy. >> reporter: a sisterhood of survivors hoping that some day their fight will be the last. morgan radford, nbc news, riverdale, georgia. >> yeah, hallie, mistrust is a big thing that we heard repeatedly from the women and the experts who we spoke with. look, one reason, of course, we all know about the long history of forced sterilization of back women in the united states. something that went to the 1960s in some southern states. that's something women in the black community are still very conscious of. then there is the issue of how doctors treat the women who do come to see them for these screenings. the human rights watch study we mentioned found that many women said they went to the doctor, were threed disrespectfully or

their concerns were ignored and they didn't go back. it's definitely a factor and the affects, as you can see, are still being felt today. >> such important reporting. we are so glad you are bringing it on msnbc. thank you so much. a huge congratulations to you on the launch of your new show nbc news daily on the nbc news network. >> thank you. >> thanks for watching this hour of msnbc. find us on twitter and halle on msnbc and over on nbc now and every week night at 5:00. "deadline whitehouse" starts right after the break. "deadline whitehouse" starts right after the break. with merrill. think miss allen is texting for backup? no she's totally in charge. of her portfolio and daniel g. she's building a greener future and he's... running a pretend restaurant. and phil? phil has questions, but none of them are about his portfolio. digital tools so impressive, your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.

♪♪ hi, everyone. welcome to monday. it's 4:00 in new york. the start of a critical week for the investigation into the twice impeached ex-president's handling of government documents with potentially huge developments on the way in the ongoing court fight over that special master to review the seized last month. donald trump's lawyers informed the judge that they oppose the two candidates for special master proposed by doj citing what they call specific reasons that they then refused to explain, at least publicly. it comes hours after trump's legal team filed a motion opposing doj's request that investigators be allowed to work with the