♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington as queen elizabeth's family, millions of people around the world are watching, as she leaves her beloved scotland today and returns to london. king charles embraces his new role, visiting northern ireland this morning as part of his tour on the fifth day of mourning. the queen's coffin will arrive at the airport for her flight to london and the drive then to buckingham palace where the family will be waiting to receive the coffin.

also this hour, we will bring you the latest from the justice department issuing a flurry of subpoenas to trump insiders in connection to the january 6 probe. a former top u.s. attorney levels new accusations against bill barr for allegedly targeting prominent democrats for political prosecutions. we will have a report from new hampshire where the midterm's last primary today is taking place featuring a republican battle between a trump candidate and a more mainstream republican to challenge the democratic senator in a contest that could decide control of the senate. we begin overseas with nbc's kelly cobiella and keir simmons in london and andrew roberts and jillian tet. the casket departing earlier

today than expected. tell us about the reception as the coffin left after an outpouring of people -- scottish people in chilly weather lining up to pay their last respects. >> there were tens of thousands waiting in that long line overnight. some waiting up to five hours or more, hoping to pay their final respects to the queen overnight. at 1:00 this afternoon, the scottish government said, i'm sorry, no more people can stand in line. we're hoping to get the rest of the public in by 3:00 p.m., at which point they stopped all viewing. they cleared the cathedral and started making the preparations for the queen's casket to be moved. we saw princess anne arrive just after 4:00. she went inside. there was some private prayer time for the family, while outside all of the thousands of

people who desperately wanted to see the queen off here in scotland lined the streets once again. they were shoulder to shoulder behind barricades, not just here in edinburg but along the route. you can see it as the queen's coffin is taken to the airport, anywhere they could find a space, people are lined there in the city center. there was a quiet, somber applause as her coffin passed by for the last time, leaving this historic city for the very last time. again, saw that same kind of quiet, somber tribute as she continued that journey. andrea, something we have seen over the past three days when we were in balmoral, there was a small group there to send her off. just people who felt like they were her neighbors. princess anne in that area.

we saw people crammed on highway overpasses, every single overpass, people were waiting to see her, waiting to pay their respects, even from afar. it's been quite an emotional several days here in edinburg. we have talked to people from all over the country and farthe. there was a 96-year-old woman from uganda here visiting family and she insisted on walking up to the gates and laying flowers, for a woman who was her same age, who she says brought back memories of her lifetime as well. lots of people telling us not only is this a historic moment, that they wanted to mark with their children, but also a moment when they wanted to just

take some time and pay respect to this extraordinary woman who lived an extraordinary life. >> we just saw a picture -- there's a little red-headed boy. he shakes hands with the queen consort. he holds up his hands. he is so excited. in the upper box on the screen as we look at the aerial of the motorcade. the excitement and then, of course, the beauty of the coffin being escorted down from st. giles cathedral. the 500-year-old scottish crown. keir, talk to us about the symbolic and personal tributes we have been watching for the last few days.

>> andrea, it's the great pageantry that surrounds the passing of a great monarch. isn't it? that's what we have been seeing and what we will see from here outside buckingham palace and here in london when the queen arrives here. we are watching a final farewell to scotland in a week of final farewells. honestly, i suspect that for the queen herself, this would be the most poignant good-bye. scotland was the country she loved the most. this is her -- these are her last minutes there as she heads to edinburgh airport and for the hour flight here to london. when she gets here, she will come here to buckingham palace. again, final farewells. this will be her last night at buckingham palace. she will be met here by the royal family, including king charles. she will be brought from here in a ceremony that goes back in

history. her father, king george, was taken through the streets of london in a similar ceremony with members of the royal family walking behind the coffin. all of that that we have seen in scotland. wherever she is, she will be so delighted, frankly, that there was the opportunity to say good-bye to scotland. i suppose you could say while they are paying their respects to her, her paying her respects to them. she would have been delighted that that was possible because of the fact that she ultimately spent her last days at balmoral. it's going to be days of tears and of celebration and of the british constitution celebrating its head of state. then next week, that funeral. kelly was talking about people lining the streets.

and they are there in scotland and here, too, outside buckingham palace. it's extraordinary to see people standing alongside the streets here, the famous mile, waiting for the queen to arrive. we watch these pictures of her still in scotland. people are that determined to give some time to a queen who gave them almost all her time, her life. they are that determined to have the opportunity to say good-bye, because, of course -- we have seen the streets and the new king will be pleased with this. we have seen the streets line and full of crowds for the king. the crowds that are coming to see the queen know that they will never be able to do that again. it's a last chance. >> as we see the motorcade beginning to pull up on the tarmac and approaching the plane, one of the things that you have been pointing out is that the flowers on her coffin

were among the beautiful flowers from balmoral that she loved from her gardens there. the poignant touches from balmoral, one of the castles that is family owned, not owned by the state as buckingham and windsor are. it was so personal to her. it was her connection to queen victoria, who was very important to her, her ancestor, of course. mother of the long serving monarchs, but not reaching the 70-year plus triumph of queen elizabeth ii. one of the things that occurs, daisy, as we are watching and we will watch the coffin being loaded on the plane, is whether as we see all of these pictures of camilla and charles reaching into the crowds. we are not used to seeing those pictures of her engaged in that kind of what we would call

retail politics. i know it's not politics when it's a sovereign. you understand the connection. there is princess anne, the only daughter of the children. she was with the queen throughout. she will be riding with her on the plane. she has at the queen's request, according to the reporting, that she has been with her and at her side through life and now in death. daisy, we see a transformation in terms of the public acceptance in the uk of camilla from when we were enthralled, as were many in britain. >> it has been a transformation for her. it has been a long, slow process. i think that was deliberate on her behalf. she didn't want to be thrust into the limelight. she wanted to take her time. that's exactly what she has

done. of course, now there's no escaping that limelight. she's now the queen consort. as you were saying, we are looking at those pictures of the queen about to be taken out of the hearse, taken on to that raf plane and taken for her last flight from scotland to england. i'm led to believe that her call sign on that raf plane is kitty hawk. i think that's the last time that call sign will be used by the raf. >> with us also, jillian tet. king charles is going to need to make this transition, provide a calming, sympathetic voice to the people. he doesn't have the popularity of his mother. he has been making that transition and has done so many royal duties in preparation. hundreds if not thousands of these appearances as well as his private and public charities.

now he has vowed certainly and signalled he is passing the charities on to his heir prince william and his other children. he will take a much less publically political role. >> absolutely. one of the fascinating things about the queen was that she became extraordinarily popular and created this sense of gravity because she didn't say very much on anything too controversial. she took great care to be quiet on politics or any global affairs. prince charles, of course, has become quite famous or infamous for weighing in on all kinds of things over the years, whether the state of modern architecture and saying how much he hates many modern buildings to embraces causes that used to be unfashionable, like environmentalism. he was one of the first voices to stand up loudly and talk about the need to be green.

his name is on a number of green initiatives. it's going to be very interesting to see now that he is king whether he will actually be able to follow his mother and keep entirely quiet. it will be interesting to see whether he can use his extraordinary outburst of energy and emotion around the queen's funeral to actually try to forge a new identity for britain at a time when britain's place in the world, its economic situation, its standing is troubled. post brexit, there are a lot of questions about what it means to have a british identity. again, will charles be able to keep quiet? will he hope that by acting and standing there silently he manages to be the centerpiece for a new british identity? will he try to make a more activist role? we don't know. >> in fact, keir simmons, the

last public act of the queen, just the day -- or two days before her death, was to receive the credentials of her new -- the uk's new prime minister, liz truss, who was chosen by only 160,000 votes of the conservative party. it was a party election, not a popular election. the parliament system replacing boris johnson who had some popularity but didn't have the support of the party leaders, especially after the scandals. liz truss, not only a new monarch but a new prime minister who has a lot of proving to do as well. >> that's right, andrea. that moment when the queen appointed her new prime minister just days before her -- before she died, symbolic of her determination to see her duty through to the very last of her strength. as we watch these pictures of

the queen being carried on to that plane by the royal air force to be taken back to london, you can think about, can't you, the queen's only daughter, princess anne, watching this, who has been with the queen since she left balmoral. i suspect will be by her side until the queen is laid to rest alongside her late husband. princess anne, there she is, inheriting those same qualities of strength and commitment to service. and she is a daughter who was extremely close to her mother. she was an olympic horse rider. rode her mom's horse in the olympics. they loved horses, both of them. for her, just imagine the personal side of this.

the only daughter of the queen now heading to the plane to take her back here to buckingham palace for one last night, for just a few more days before she and her family and the country say good-bye. it really is -- the thing about princess anne, watching those pictures, is look how matter of fact she looks. she looks like it's another day's work. that's not to lessen what she's doing or what she must be feeling or the importance of it. it is just in the nature of many members of this family. not all of them. but certainly this princess is her mother's daughter. and she's going to disappear soon with her mother to set off to london.

>> it's so important to understand the relationships of mothers and daughters in this context as well. thank you for pointing that out. it's so true that even though there have been divorces in so many of these -- so many siblings have had divorces. princess anne has never had scandal in her life, that most of the people in the public are aware of. she has been the most dutiful daughter and the one who has been -- of all of the children, who have been so close throughout to her mother. i've been watching her, especially during the vigil in scotland. the children following their mother's coffin through those narrow cobblestone streets. as keir was pointing out in his coverage, the silence, thousands of people, just the silent respect with tearful eyes.

people so quiet, you could hear the hooves of the horses, the horse-drawn accompaniment, the horsemen following the coffin on its very sad path. andrew roberts is an historian. talk to us about this family. we have a statement from prince harry. i don't have the full context. apparently, he is not wearing his uniform. there may have been some comment in the uk that this was part of his departure from the royal fold. he has been wearing a mourning coat. he put out a statement saying, prince harry, the duke of sussex, will ware a mourning suit throughout this. we respectfully ask that the focus remain on the life and legacy of her majesty, queen elizabeth ii. andrew, if you can give us any

context on that. >> it's a custom. he is not an active royal any more than the duke of york is. the duke of york also wasn't wearing uniform. how splendid to remind the media that this is not about him or his wife, the duchess of sussex. this is very much about the late queen. as she leaves scotland for the lot of time now, we have seen the tremendous crowds that have turned up. it's right that we should con con. >> dale: d -- concentrate on this.

>> it's true that the queen throughout -- there have been problems, obviously, after the death of diana notably. during the terrible year, of course, the fire in windsor. she's had so many troubles in her reign. when you go back to her service in world war ii and the way she has stoically faced all of these difficulties throughout a long -- historically long tenure of 70 plus years, just the way she served her people, duty and service to god and country, is what really signifies the historic nature of her rule. jillian, you were referring to some of the challenges that king charles will face. the skyrocketing inflation and the economic issues that you cover every day and that "the financial times" so wonderfully

covers for rest of us, particularly post brexit. liz truss was originally against brexit and then switched and is now living with the consequences of brexit, which are much different than many of the supporters originally envisioned, correct? >> absolutely. if any other normal week -- by normal, a week when the queen had not died, the newspapers here -- i'm in england at the moment stories about the cost of living crisis, which is considerably worse in america, the squeeze on wages, rise in inflation, the slowdown in the economy, all of those things are really bad news right now. on top of that, you have the brexit hangover and the uncertainty about what the uk is actually trying to do in terms of carving out its identity. and we have a new prime minister

and a finance minister chancellor who is essentially coming out and indicated they are about to unleash some pretty controversial policies. they will cut taxes. they don't care about the debt. they are going all in for growth. they have sacked the most senior civil service in the finance department, which is a pretty unprecedented thing to do in the uk. there's a very dramatic political convulsion going on amid these tidal waves of economic gloom. all of that has been swept off the front pages by the queen's death and the funeral. there's almost nothing else that anyone else is talking about right now. it's worth pointing out that huge numbers of events and normal proceedings have been canceled because of what's going on. in some ways, it's a great boon for liz truss. it gives them breathing space. it casts down the question of, how will liz truss, the new king charles actually try to raise

the nation's spirits after the funeral? can they do this? >> andrew roberts, let's talk about where king charles is, as we speak. he has been in northern ireland. the extraordinary history there, the troubles, the violence. we experienced the anti-british rebellion, really, by the ira, the bombing that threatened margaret thatcher, the prime minister some years back and that led to the death of king charles' beloved uncle and mentor and confidant. all of those troubles, at least papered over. there still is probably some anger and resistance to the monarchy. for him to be able to go to northern ireland and to have gotten past that. there was intense negotiation,

the united states, senator george mitchel led that initiative from the u.s. part. all of that led to the current political truce, correct? >> yes, that's right. in fact, you will see tremendous scenes of popularity for king charles in belfast. he actually visited northern ireland over 35 times. considering the ira started the war, it's a tremendously brave thing to have done. it's a tremendous thing for him. king charles is going to be at the front. >> we're waiting to see the

royal guard of honor from scotland. we think there will be a salute. i think you will hear bagpipes as well before the plane departs or as the plane is departinempt tarmac may appear. the beauty and the population along the narrow streets of the medieval towns and villages and then edinburgh and the royal mile. this is the final farewell for queen elizabeth ii from scotland, which really was her happy place, if you will, the place where she vacations.

kelly, you spent time in scotland. you have seen and talked to the people and the emotional farewell that they felt, the bond they felt from her childhood. i was looking at some of the interviews you have done and some of the people in the village closer to balmoral who remember her coming into the pastry shops with her younger sister margaret as a child. this was always the place where she knew was the vacation place in august. kelly? >> it's the place where she felt most comfortable. it's the place where she could sort of relax. she could walk out into the hills. she could ride her horse. she could go to the local shops. people in the area close to balmoral considered her to be sort of a neighbor. they would see her out and about. they would see her at the grocery shop. you know, they kept a respectful distance. you would see the queen. you could nod to the queen.

she maintained a sense of anonymity there. she was able to just enjoy that incredibly beautiful landscape when she was at balmoral. not only did she just spend quiet time there with her family, but she also hosted, as we have been talking about over the past several days, she hosted countless dignitaries, presidents, prime ministers at that beautiful estate. i told the story a couple of days ago about her hosting the then king of saudi arabia back in 2003, before women had the right to drive in saudi arabia. one of the british diplomats said she insisted on showing him around her gorgeous estate, 55,000 acre estate, in her landrover. she insisted on driving him herself. that diplomat said the king was so nervous at the time that he was begging her, through his

translator, to slow down and look at the road. no reflection whatsoever on her driving abilities. she knew those hills like the back of her hand. a reflection on who this woman was, wanting to -- we can't dive into the mind of the late queen elizabeth. but it seems wanting to show the king that a woman was quite capable of driving a landrover across the hills of the highlands in scotland. those are the kinds of stories that came out of balmoral. those are the kind of stories that reflect the type of woman she was. one of the many, many tributes that we have seen over the past few days -- we have seen these huge floral tributes with messages, handmade cards from children. i think one of the ones that really sticks with me anyway was a handwritten message from a child who said, thank you for showing the world how strong a

woman can be. she did show that strength really in balmoral as well. her love for the outdoors, the time she spent outdoors. again, the reflection in how she behaved around world leaders like in that instance in 2003, really just extraordinary stories coming from scotland. it wasn't just the people who had met her or who had seen her. it seems like everybody here has a story about seeing the queen. they might have gone to a school that was close to where she would arrive every year and be greeted. they were all heralded out on the street as schoolchildren and told to wave to the queen or shown the queen is here. they may have seen her in one of the local towns or villages and gotten close to the barricade and been able to shake her hand. it seems like everyone here has

a story about her. it's a big country with a small population. they did feel here like they knew this woman and loved her and respected her. we can't overstate it. for queen to have passed away here in scotland, to be able to be here, to allow the people of scotland to have this incredible sendoff, it means so much to so many of the people i have spoken to. again, andrea, not just people who were born and raised in scotland. we have talked to people from all over. we met a couple of french tourists who said they wanted to just be here, be in the moment. they were along the procession route yesterday craning for a look at the queen's casket as it went by. they wanted to pay their respects to this, again, amazing woman known the world over. we met family who came here from

ukraine. they were welcomed to scotland as they were fleeing the war. the family lived in kyiv, bucha, in fact. the mother told me, the queen supported ukraine. she supported us. i need to pay her back in some way. i was touched by that. i brought a bouquet of sunflowers, the national flower of ukraine. these are the kinds of stories that we have heard over and over again as we have talked to the people here in scotland the past three days about her majesty. >> daisy, that connection to scotland, that bond to balmoral, i was so touched by the fact that the people carrying her coffin, as it was leaving balmoral, were the gamekeepers, the honor guard. they were the people she knew people, the gamekeepers. the horsemen. she loved to ride. she was outdoors.

she was driving the landrover, as kelly was just saying. this was the place where she could be most herself and also, daisy, that interview that tony blair did with savannah guthrie today where there's a new prime minister where they served a barbecue by her majesty and how awkward he felt and how strange it felt, an out of body experience to sit there and not able to take his own plate, because he was with the family and it's they are the only frankly, i had a privilege when i was there for a private lunch when my husband was being knighted in balmoral. i was dressed in a suit and pearls. she was wearing a sweater set and a kilt because she was on vacation. delighted in things like pointing out a rose bush out the dining room window that had been planted by queen victoria.

that place really represented her connection to the past. >> she was very proud of the gardens at balmoral. the reverend who gave the homily in scotland earlier this week was actually -- he is the head of the church of scotland. he had been to stay at balmoral last weekend, just a few days before the queen had died. he had saturday night dinner with the queen. he had sunday lunch with her after he had taken a sunday service. he was talking to press and saying he found it absolutely unbelievable that it was just a matter of a couple of days later that she had died. he said that exactly like you said, she had taken him to the window and she had been talking to him about the grounds and the gardens and the rose bushes. she had been talking about horses she had owned 40 years

ago. she could recall their names immediately. he said she was full of fun. she was always the life and soul. although her body was frail, her enthusiasm for everything about balmoral was still very, very strong. she was still entertaining. she was having people over for dinner and for lunch at balmoral the weekend before last. >> of course, receiving liz truss as she looked frail, leaning on the cane. daisy, if i may ask, what about the belovd dogs? so many -- some 30 different dogs, perhaps, as many as that? what's going to happen to her dogs? >> she did -- you are right. all her dogs -- all her corgis went back to one called susan. she had more than 30 over the years. she was given some puppies by

andrew and his daughter after prince philip died. they will go back to live with andrew and sarah. what happens to the others? i was listening to somebody this morning talking about how he had helped train some of the dogs. he said she really was very masterful at training her dogs. she could get them to sit in a semi-circle and she fed them at 3:00 every afternoon. she took them out for walks every day. she did everything that a normal dog owner would do. >> did it a lot better than a lot of the -- my friends and relatives who have pandemic puppies who are struggling with the training piece. >> yes. >> daisy, what about the family as they go through this? i was so struck by the family, the children surrounding the coffin, an ancient ritual and

apparently, if i'm correct, queen anne is the first woman to participate in those rituals. >> you are right. that ritual is called the vigil of princes. princes being the operative word. they have always been men before. the sons of a king or the sons of a queen. this time, princess anne took part for first time. >> let's listen for a moment to "god save the queen" as the plane starts moving. ♪♪ ♪♪

>> daisy, we interrupted to hear the strains of the anthem. you were saying, as we watch the plane taking off and the salute from the guard of honor, the royal regiment of scotland, daisy? >> yes. i was saying that -- you were asking about the vigil of princes, which we have seen once during this time of mourning already. as you were pointing out, princess anne took part in that vigil. it's where the four children of the queen stood with their backs to her coffin, heads bowed. the theory is that they are guarding her coffin. of course, it's a very significant moment, a very solemn moment and a moment where they are showing their respect, paying their respect to their mother. now that her body -- you can see it flying on that raf c-17 to

london, she will be brought to buckingham palace. she will be moved to westminster hall. she will lie in state. she rested in state in scotland. she will lie in state here in london. again, we do imagine when she comes to london that we will see another vigil of the princes, assuming that princess anne, who, of course, is on that raf plane with her mother, and as you were saying, we are led to believe it was queen's wishes it would be her daughter who would accompany her, that very long car journey, 100 miles, but it took six hours because the hearse was going so slowly so that the maximum number of people in scotland could line the roads and pay their respects on that journey, now, of course, at this journey coming down to london.

we do believe that the queen wanted it to be her daughter, who she was very, very close to. they are quite similar in characteristics. full of duty, stoic, stiff upper lip, not somebody to wear their emotions on their sleeve. very close to each other. >> andrew, when we think of some of the other challenges that king charles iii now faces, it's also trying to hold the commonwealth together, dealing with an evolving commonwealth. we have heard from australia that the prime minister there is not in his first term going to hold a referendum on independence. we have seen in jamaica and other caribbean countries move towards independence. there's the rather ugly colonial history that has certainly been a continuing narrative in africa and other colonies.

we are hearing from prime minister trudeau that there are conversations across the government as to delegation to london from canada. prime minister trudeau has been very emotional about his connection to queen elizabeth ii. he remembers her when he was a boy. of course, his father was the prime minister. he said that she was so important to him personally. i know that our president, president biden, and dr. jill biden, the first lady, are the only two who are going to be in the official u.s. delegation, that world leaders who are arriving sunday to be part of the viewing of the queen, after the public ceremonies have concluded, that only two people from each government are going to be at the funeral, because it's so heavily subscribed from world leaders, kings and queens and prime ministers from all over the world, right? >> that's right.

there are about 190 countries in the world and about 150 are coming. if everybody brings their partner, that will be a lot of people. people like mr. putin are not going to be coming. the iranians equate the queen to hitler. we assume they will not come either. otherwise, there will be an enormous amount of people coming. it's not going to be where you can pack out large areas of westminster for the foreign delegations. it's a tight number that we're going to be able to fit in. simply a matter of space. >> daisy, on this last journey on the raf transport plane, princess anne accompanying her,

that's probably an hour and a half to london? is that the estimated time? you probably have the schedule there. >> well, it should -- if they were going at full speed, it would be a lot quicker than that. i would have thought about an hour. of course, when that plane does touch down, to the west of london, then we know that it's going to be coming through a route through west london. i would expect a lot of people to line those roads as well. it's been quite publicized in the newspapers here, the route it's going to come. we're expecting a lot of road closures. i think this is the first opportunity for londoners and english people to make their way to try to see the hearse bringing the queen. of course, so many people now fear that they won't get the opportunity, because there have been so many stories about the lines to go to westminster hall and see the queen lie in state there, that i think that quite a

lot of people will take the opportunity to go to the roadside and do an unofficial paying of respect. >> one can only imagine what princess anne must be feeling as they leave scotland for the last time with her mother. however stoic she is in public, there have to be those private moments of grief. grief and, of course, great longing for scotland and for the privacy of scotland and facing this public mourning for her mother. kelly, andrew, jillian and daisy, keir, all of you, thank you for being with us. we're going to have a lot more news coming up. the politics here at home, developments at the justice department. stay with us here on msnbc. you are watching "andrea

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in a major escalation, the justice department issued nearly 40 new subpoenas in connection with efforts by donald trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election. sources telling nbc news that the doj also seized two phones. the senate judiciary committee is launching an investigation into allegations of political meddling at the trump justice department under then attorney general bill barr. the former u.s. attorney making the claims spoke to rachel last night. >> turn the department into his own personal law firm. he put in people who would do his bidding. and they would, you know, target trump's political enemies and assist trump's friends. it was a disgrace.

>> the former u.s. attorney fired by trump says he was pressured to go after trump's perceived enemies, like the former clinton white house counsel, while he was the top attorney for district of new york. joining me now ken dilanian and joyce vance. joyce, to you. to go after the u.s. attorney for southern district and to demand that greg craig, a prominent democrat, a lawyer, be prosecuted, jeff berman says, that he refused and then was basically forced out but hung on just long enough to make sure that his deputy, who could not be pressured, would replace him. and then, of course, he was prosecuted by a more willing u.s. attorney in the district of columbia and was then very quickly acquitted by a jury, but with great personal loss.

he lost his position in his law firm and how does he get his reputation back? how unusual to have these allegations of meddling from the attorney general of the united states, both in favor of allies and against perceived opponents? >> andrea, the allegations are absolutely unprecedented. it's important to keep an open mind. it's good for the senate to embark on this investigation, because we do need to know the truth. we're only hearing one side here. so investigation is appropriate. but if berman's tales are true, they are very serious. no attorney general can afford to instruct u.s. attorneys or anyone else to even the score, to prosecute one democrat for one republican. that's not how justice works. justice works on pursuit of the facts and the law and not of some form of political score keeping. >> ken, let's talk about the new

subpoenas and two phones seizeed. what does this tell us about the investigation into the false elector schemes? >> this is a significant escalation of the this investigation. 40 subpoenas in the last week and two phones seized, including the former trump campaign advisor boris epstein. a lawyer for the former nypd commissioner today me they were seeking anything and everything regarding anyone and everyone connected to the trump campaign. it was really broad, he said. it's clear they are investigating fund-raising, including by a political action committee associated with trump and other entities raising money on the grounds that there was fraud that many people believe that the people raising the money knew the fraud didn't exist. a real expansion of the investigation right on the edge of the 60-day period during which the doj goes quiet around

and election. the mid-terms are coming up. they have a lot of documents and testimony to chew on over the next 60 to 90 days. >> joyce, your reaction? what does this tell you about the fact that they seem to be also following up certain leads also following up certain leads from the january 6th congressional committee? >> it looks like all roads have led to one particular place in the center of a lot of different kinds of misconduct. whether it's the big lie, the big rip off, the mar-a-lago incident involving classified documents, some of the witnesses are coming together in central form. we know that christina bob, that all classified material had been returned, was also present in the willard room. so this is a good moment for doj to have 60 days to regroup and see where their evidence leads them. >> you are our thanks to both of

you. and as the world mornings the death of queen elizabeth ii, many are wondering about the future of the monarchy under king charles iii. there are 14 nations where the king is still recognized as head of state. joining me is yew jeanne gene robinson, and rick stank the and we just received a statement from prime minister trudeau of canada, one of the commonwealth countries, speaking about how they are going to be mourning the queen. let's watch. >> also chosen to move forward with a federal lot day on monday. we will be working with the provinces and the territory to see we're aligned on this. but declaring an opportunity for

canadiens to mourn on monday. >> one of the things that queen elizabeth ii, one of the promises she made to her father was that as she was inheriting a throne she never expected to, that she would preserve the commonwealth. and she visited so many of those countries. and this was the post colonial period and very dicey relationship. that was one of her big concerns and one of the issues that she split with margaret thatcher on, which was the issue of apartheid to side with mandela because of the rest of africa. >> that's right. she built up an enormous wealth in the commonwealth countries and many other countries.

and there's enormous feeling for her as a person. but there's also a recognition that what the british government did in the 70 years of her reign, it did in her name. whether or not she thought it was a good idea. so putting down of the rebellion in kenya and the overthrow of the government and the thatcher support of apartheid way past the sell by date. those things are a part of her legacy simply by having been monarch and they are not forgotten in the commonwealth. so i don't see a rush to leave the commonwealth, but i would be

surprised if 20 years from now they were still 14 counties in the commonwealth recognizing her as head of state. >> we have already seen in jamaica calls for protests kate and william when they were there recently. the caribbean countries maybe in front. >> the sun will finally set on the british empire now that elizabeth is gone. colonialism is a very mixed bag. and is responsible for the deaths of millions and millions of people. in fact, if you look at those caribbean nations, the british were sponsored by the royal family involved in the atlantic slave trade, brought millions of african slaves from west africa to those caribbean nations and

north america. so it's a very mixed legacy. i agree that the commonwealth is its empire light and will probably go away. it's a good opportunity for great britain and the new king to say, look, we need to apologize for the legacy. there's lots of talk particularly among caribbean nations for reparations. it would behoove him to have a new reckoning. >> it's such a complicated history and someone correct me, but if charles i was the first who approved the slave trade. so the legacy is real. i believe that kerry sanders was reporting last night on "nbc nightly news" that under jamaican law, if there was an

apology from the monarch, there needs to be reparations. so an apology is not just symbolic. it could be a tremendous cost to the royal purse. >> what would that look like? the burden of slavery, if you're going to put a dollar figure on it, would be enormous. and yet there is justification for reparations. so we'll see. >> and the british purse is empty, according to liz truss. >> thank you to all. such an interesting conversation. eugene, rick, thanks to you. chris jansing is live in london starting right after this as we see again the transport plane taking off from scotland. taking off from scotland it's the greatest sandwich roster ever assembled. next is the new great garlic. the tender rotisserie style chicken is sublime and the roasted garlic aioli

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good day, i'm chris jansing live in london. a city that will shortly become host to one of the largest public displays of grief in modern history. here the weather seek seems to echo the somber mood. it is really rainy out here. it's been cloudy and gray all day long. the people here preparing for what the evening standard calls the queen's return home. and we have seen