good day, i'm chris jansing live in london. a city that will shortly become host to one of the largest public displays of grief in modern history. here the weather seek seems to echo the somber mood. it is really rainy out here. it's been cloudy and gray all day long. the people here preparing for what the evening standard calls the queen's return home. and we have seen a frenzy of

activity as well as people waiting for the queen's coffin to arrive here. all around us the crowds keep coming, the message of condolence for the royal family just keep piling up. this has been going on for six straight days and nights, but all of that just a precursor to what's to come. millions are predicted to come here to london. but because of capacity issues at westminster hall, officials say only about 350,000 people will actually be able to view the queen's coffin lying in state. officials say they will cut off the lines when they reach that limit. but those lines are already building here at the palace for the queen's coffin is expected to arrive a short time from now. and we are 23 hours away from the first mourners being allowed into the hall where the queen will lie in state beginning at 5:00 p.m. local time tomorrow. according to the london times,

that wait could be up to 35 hours long. just a few minutes ago, the queen's coffin was carried on to a c-17 aircraft. that plane now taking the queen on her final journey back to london. she's being accompanied by her daughter anne and her husband. at the psalm time, we are watching live pictures at buckingham palace where king charles and camilla arrived and left a short time ago. they spent the day in northern ireland where the king took time to shake hands and speak to the crowd outside the castle. the scenes nearly identical to what we saw in scotland as well asser here in london as the king continues to try to connect with people across the uk in spite of his deep personal grief. we also saw a potentially historic moment, king charles shaking hands with members of sinn fein, honoring the queen's

contributions to their country and the king vowing to work for peace. and just a few hours ago, those same political leaders joined the royal couple for a service of reflection in belfast. the king also stopping after the service to greet the crowd across the street. and while we watch developments here, there's also big news happening back in america involving the justice department's growing investigation into the 2020 election and the january 6th insurrection. nbc news confirmed that they issued 40 subpoenas, even going so far to seize two of their phones. more on what that means for the former president and his escalating legal troubles in a minute. first you want to bring in wilford frost, an msnbc creator. matt bradley is at westminster hall where the queen oos body will be brought tomorrow. and sue sana.

so we saw some activity here. you saw the king and the queen consort returning, where we believe they are going to wait for the queen's coffin to arrive. but then we saw them leave. >> they were back for about five minutes. then it was a quick change of clothes and then to go out and meet the coffin arrive. that's the airport it will land about 15 miles west of london. it had been expected he would now wait at buckham palace with his wife to welcome the coffin when princess anne brings it from the airport. we'll see. >> so given the fact that there have been plans in the works for literally decades, not just years, but decades, would it surprise you, again, we're speculaing here, if the king decided he wanted to meet the queen's coffin when it came into london?

>> reporter: i sort of think it might be in his character to say i know you arranged thrks but i want to be there. i want to meet the coffin. i want to see her for her final journey to buckingham palace. we have seen that many of his walk abouts have been unplanned. so this spontaneous character seems to be something we're seeing in the new king. >> so let's talk about what we're going to see over the next few days. we're already seeing it. it's a sea of umbrellas across where we're standing of people waiting, hoping to catch a glimpse of the queen's coffin. what else are people going to be doing in the coming days? >> it's a journey to here. it's about 14 miles. that's a transport, a journey that needs to be done to bring her coffin back. nonetheless, as you can already see behind us, crowds are

expected to line the route to pay their respects. tomorrow the procession is a more formal part. perhaps the second most important part of the entire week there will be pomp and ceremony, but in a very solemn way as her coffin takes a journey from the seat of royalty to the seat of democracy where it will lie in state. >> let's go to westminster hall. matt, what are you seeing there and what are you expecting over the next few days? sglrd nobody is. >> reporter: nobody is here so far. over the past 24 hours, we have started to see the police erecting barriers, setting up guardrails and that sort of thing. they are expecting enormous crowds. what we saw today this morning and yesterday, it was a pretty good taste, kind of a dry run for officials as they plan expected to be overwhelming of the public coming here and it's going to be different than what

we saw because this is going to be four straight days of the queen lying in state and the public will have access to her 24 hours a day. so that's a very big process, a very big display they will be putting on. it will be happening right behind me in this ancient westminster hall inside the house of commons. and they are going to lead up to the morning of hitter funeral on monday. that's when we'll see the funeral across the street to windsor castle. >> we have talked a lot about the firsts. even as we're seeing the hearse moving through the streets of scott can land and moving through the streets of london. it seems as though in that sort

of commonality that the the british people are able to grieve together, as i'm watching british television, there were people calling in and really just talking about their grief, reporters interviewing people who found themselves spontaneously bursting into tears. and i remember there was one older gentleman who thought i was okay and clearly now he was recognizing that he wasn't. have you been at all surprised by the reaction you have seen in london and across the uk? >> i think this degree of grief seems surprising at first because one would expect a woman in her 90 toz come do her death. but the same point, we hold her in such high affection that we're seeing that outpouring. we saw it in scotland. so the scottish people had an opportunity to register their

grief, to pay their respects. something about seeing her move from that country she loved is much, and now finally back to buckham pal slas very moving to know this will be the last night she spends with her family. all of this is a reflection of how most of this country feel about their monarch and about this woman in particular, who have served us with such devotion and with such duty over so long a period of time. that i'm not surprised that people want to pay their respects and feel so moved by it. >> there is, as we have talked so many times, this mix of the personal, emotional and political. and i want to talk a little bit about the king's visit to northern ireland today. it's a place he's been many times before and a place the

queen has tried to play peacemaker to bring both sides together. what did you see in his visit today? 12k3w4r respect overall and nothing negative. one would probably expect that this week of all weeks. stepping back in general, i would say from some conversations with sources close to the family, they are pleased with how this session has gone so far. he's been welcomed as king, even by republicans in northern ireland. though we don't expect them to profess their loyalty to the crowd and their love of monarchy for many years ahead. but there's always going to be a mixture of those that love the crown and love the individual and northern ireland you get the place in a more pronounced way, but even those people who despise the idea in northern ireland were largely respectful today. and i think that's a net win from what you could have seen. >> i think it's been fascinating

to watch and we're looking at pictures from hillsborough to watch all the members of the royal family, but i think the king and consort and king charles was asked how he's managing his personal grief to all of the things he's been doing going out and seeming to try to also comfort him by being there. what to you see in that from him and as we make this transition, how important is it? when he was asked about it, he suggested that what he was doing was what he was doing because it's his mother. it's his duty. >> he does seem to have picked up duty in the face of personal emotion. and yet carrying on. what's very interesting is we have seen him immediately go to

the houses of common and maintain he will maintain his constitutional duty. we have seen him go out to the region and indicate his love. and meeting people that shows he wants people to know he grieves with them. and that he is for them and he is their king in their service. so it's really striking the same note of that service that his mother so embodied and that the king has now taken on as his mantle. >> thanks to all of you. much appreciated. as we said, the queen's coffin is on its way back here to buckham palace. thousands of people gathering behind us waiting through the rain to pay respects. we will bring that to you live when it happens. but first, those new legal developments surrounding the former president as the doj

issues dozens of subpoenas related to trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election and also january 6th. plus president biden set to address inflation later today in the wake of a new report. his game plan to ease americans' minds about rising costs with the midterms just around the corner. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. you ca. thanks, dad. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings. it's about the friends we make along the way. you said it, flo. and don't forget to floss before you brush. your gums will thank you. -that's right, dr. gary. -jamie? sorry, i had another thought so i got back in line. what was it? [ sighs ] i can't remember.

after a major escalation in multiple investigations into former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, today january 6th committee member adam kinzinger talked about the doj appearing to hint at a criminal referral. >> we may have a criminal referral. i think that's likely. but with their investigation from here out, we have got to hold people to account. if the rule of law says you can attempt coup as long as you fail, that's way more dangerous for this country than some fear of short-term violence. >> he said that showers after this news broke. the justice department issued 40 subpoenas in the last week. according to sources familiar with the matter. and seized two cell phones. nbc news has confirmed that reporting originally in the "new york times."

and the associated press has an addition to that saying trump's, quote, chief fundraising vehicles is under new legal scrutiny after the justice department issued a round of subpoenas that sought information about the political action committee's fundraising practices. nbc news has not matched that reporting. and that's not all. late last night, the senate judiciary committee announced it has launched an investigation into charges that trump's doj pressured federal prosecutors to go after his critics. it's a lot to digest. good to have you here. i want to talk about your reporting on those 40 subpoenas. who are we talking about? who had their phones taken? do we know what the doj is trying to find? >> it's very apparent there's a multipronged and escalating

justice department investigation into one phone was seized from an outsider. subpoenas went to a wade rienging group of people. but also other people very senior in trump's orbit reportedly steven miller and i did speak to a lawyer who represents donald trump in this investigation. he also represents commissioner carr risk and he said he got a subpoena for documents and tail ligh testimony. he was looking for information with the trump campaign. it speaks to the sort of broad nature of this justice department inquiry and all this

activity took place on the edge of the 60-day quiet period, the period during which the doj is reluctant to take public steps in a politically sensitive investigation. so they have put out all these requests for documents and they have the next two months to absorb this information, understand it and see where they are going in this investigation. >> what do you make of what we're seeing? do you see this as a major escalation? >> i think i do. but one of the things that's really confusing is that months ago, public reporting indicate canned that there were a number of grand jury investigations into the president's conduct. and based on the reporting that ken was referring to in the nbc news confirmed yesterday, it appears that a number of those strands are almost converging on themselves. you have investigations into the former president's conduct and how he incited the events and the violence on january 6th. you have what was thought to be a separate investigation into the funding of january 6th.

and then a third into the fake electors, and what we're seeing now is that all those things are appearing to intermingle together and the subpoenas, as they were reported, asked people a variety of questions about all those subjects together. it also strikes me that one of the recipients of the subpoena is brian jack, he's the last political director at the white house and in addition to having former president trump as someone he consulted with, he also serves for kevin mccarthy in a number of house republicans. that's another development to watch. >> i'm so curious about your assessment of this because we have been watching and you have been watching so many investigations that seem to be happening on parallel tracks, but you see this intermingling and now you have 40 more subpoenas. how to you view this? >> "the new york times" reporting that dan got a subpoena in my view might be the single most notable development because he's one of the only if

not -- certainly one of the only people to be subpoenaed by the january 6th committee who didn't provide any cooperation whatsoever. the january 6th committee referred him to the justice department and the justice department decided not to bring charges against him for contempt of congress. so he's been a black box for investigators. there's little information that he has which has been shared, at least to our knowledge, with any investigative body. s the fact that the justice department is ordering him to cooperate with this investigation without question would bring in significant new information, if they are able to secure that cooperation and if he isn't able to use legal strategies to try to quash the subpoena. he's a really important person because he's been close to trump since long before trump entered american political life, and he

was at trump's side for the entire four years of his presidency as well as for both campaigns. there aren't a lot of people who are closer to trump who are have more intimate knowledge of the way he handled politics, personnel, a host of ever issues. so if it's correct that he is someone who the justice department is drilling down on, that means that they could if they are able to secure his cooperation get a treasure-trove of information that even a select committee hasn't been able to get. >> what to you make of the comments by adam kinzinger that a criminal referral is likely. we have heard some similar comments from liz cheney. but it's the first time i remember him suggesting that. he also suggested wait and see what we have at the end of the month, almost like a tease there's definitely going to be more important information coming out, which doesn't

surprise anyone who has watched these hearings. i'd like to get your take on that comment. >> he's been one of the most enthusiastic boost ertz of the work. and various members of the committee have had a variety of comments about criminal referrals oaf the last few months as their investigation has proceeded. there seems to be some difference of opinion on the committee itself about whether or not these criminal referrals make sense. they are asking to seasoned over already they already sent to the select committee. there's no question that the possibility of referrals is something that's been in the mix on this panel for quite some time. but it fits in the category of i'll believe it when i see it. it could happen. if it does happen, it wouldn't necessarily be shocking either way. because the justice department obviously is already firing on all cylinders when it comes to

investigating trump, his inner circle and the lead up to the january 6th attack. >> let me ask you about another investigation. it's into, quote, multiple instances of interference. it stems from charges made in a new book who was fired by trump in 2020 he was a guest on the show last night and he described a pressure campaign from the former president. take a listen. >> trump turned the department into his own personal law firm. he put in people who would do thiz bidding and target trump's political enemies and assist his friends. it was a disgrace. >> in addition to obviously a breach of doj norms, what's the issue here? >> i think the issue here is

exactly that. there should be some separation between the white house and the department of justice. and that the department of justice should go about its work without fear or favor. prosecute the cla cases that have merit and turn away the cases that don't. politics should never enter into those conversations. the episode he cites in the book, each of those not only represent a significant breach of department norms, as you noted, but potentially could be something more than that. and one of the things that strikes me is that berman, when he fired back at barr, he deliberately used language that tracks the federal obstruction of justice standard. he was a little coy when asked whether he thinks barr's conduct actually did constitute obstruction of justice, but

that's a question for other people to figure out and to unravel. clearly at the time, the southern district had two active investigations and two people who were associated with the president. one with rudy giuliani. the other was steve bannon. >> thank you all, much appreciated. president biden is preparing to celebrate a major legislative win of his presidency. the inflation reduction act that costs are still on the rise. what's keeping prices up and how can the president ease americans' minds. you're watching "chris jansing reports," live from london, only on msnbc. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test.

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business analyst and host of the 11th hour stephanie rule. >> it's a challenging report. gas prices are a huge driver. they have been going down, as you said, for 91 days. but rent is still high, health care costs, energy costs, and everyday things you're buying at the grocery store. they are not continuing to spike, but they are staying at these elevated levels and that's really difficult for people. >> so this affects just about everyone. so what should be the message from president biden today. he wants to sell the inflation reduction act. he wants to say it will help with the midterms around the corner, but the reality is that this stuff isn't going to kick in in the next 60 days.

>> it's not going to kick in in the next 60 days, but it is going to kick in eventually. the list that stephanie named, especially related to energy costs and health care costs, are key components of this bill. i expect the president to emphasize why it was so critical for the inflation reduction act to be passed, to be able to respond to thee things. i also expect him to emphasize that democrats did that alone. and to voted against lowering energy costs. so i expect him to go down that list and name about the fact that democrats are delivering and help is on the way, whereas republicans had no part in that and wanted no part in that. i also expect the president to continue to name what are the driving forces behind this inflation, whether it's lingering issues associated with the pandemic in supply chains, what is prompting this?

because we know republicans are going to try to point the blame at him and democrats. but he needs to be clear about what other driving factors are at play here. >> one of the things that we're going to be watching for moving forward is that the fed is going to be meeting eight days from now. i think the expectation was that they might raise interest rates three quarters of a point. i just saw on cnbc there are predictions of a full percentage point. what's going to happen? >> they are going to raise rates and they need to. we can say what's the president doing, but the president cannot do much. the one tool we have is with the fed and it's raising rates. you raise rates, you slow down demand. and we haven't seen demand slow that much yet. so in the short-term, when and if they raise rates t will be painful. it means it's more expensive to borrow. but in the long-term, the goal is to slow things down. >> i want to understand this. if this is sort of all built in

and it's not necessarily a shocker, why is the dow down 826 points right now? >> because remember, when interest rates are really low, there's nowhere to invest your money besides the stock market. you can't gain anything in the fixed income markets in your savings. but as interest rates go up, you have other places to invest. for companies, it become more expensive to borrow. so it makes the stock market more difficult. people shouldn't be running for the hills saying i'm going to sell everything because long-term investing in the stock market long-term is a win. but if you think you're going to win as a day trader, you're not. and that's not a good move for anyone. >> so i want to get your take on the latest polling that shows congressman tim ryan tied with j.d. vance in the ohio senate race. this is from "usa today." voters have told us in poll after poll inflation is critical to them.

so so what role will high costs and democrats' message on the inflation reduction act in swaying people in states like ohio where these races are now too close to call? >> this should be another red alarm bill for republicans, as you mentioned, in a state trump won handedly to be within this margin is ridiculous for republicans and a reflection of the candidate they ran and that he leans on mega donors, the latest being a $30 million injection from mcconnell and the republican senator. so i do think that this is something where tim ryan has been hyperfocused on talking to independent voters and democrats and republican ace cross the state to bring them in as they reject the current state of the republican party. but you're right, for a lot of voters in ohio, inflation is a top issue. so i expect tim ryan to be one of the vocal candidates out there talking about how the inflation reduction act brings in additional good jobs, brings in investments in manufacturing,

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they have captured a lot of territory and also a lot of equipment. that's key for the next part of the fight. that's the fight that they will take to donbas down to the southwest from where they are at right now. and number three, they are overextended and need to be careful not to overextend too far as they try to take the fight to donbas and continue the counteroffensive. they launched both of those at the same time, it was a bit of a distraction so hay could do what they have done around kharkiv, but there's still fighting there. >> "the new york times" has an interesting headline. it reads, quote, ukraine steps up information wars seeking to exploit russian setbacks. you know russian president vladimir putin better than most. how do you think he's responding to these losses and this

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the queen when she lies in state. they're being warned about a wait that may lost for longer than a day, but many may not be able to get into the hall. in edinburgh, this former soldier waited in line for 12 hours saying he was prepared to stay longer. telling sky news, i have to go and pay my respects to my old boss. the level of dedication we're seeing here is part of what buckingham palace is hoping will help the monarchy. "the wall street journal" puts it like this. the queen's death has reminded many in britain of the special place and purpose of the monarchy in their lives, including its power to unite the country. a new generation will always remember where they were when the queen died and a new king came to power. as this new era is being ushered in, this is how a few of those mourners are choosing to remember the queen and this moment. >> she meant the world, just like everybody's grandmother. >> i can't find my words.

it's, it's -- i'm so sorry. >> it's the least i can do to come here and pay my respects with everyone else. the devotion she showed, the love of her country and the commonwealth. >> all my life i've known the queen. it was just thursday, just dreadful. >> with me now, tracy, a royal historian and author of the book, crown and scepter, a new history of the british monarchy from william the conquerer to elizabeth ii. it is an extraordinary sight we're seeing on the streets of scotland. on the streets of london. without a doubt, this will be one for the history books, won't it? >> absolutely. we're seeing history being made in front of our eyes and it's so interesting because we knew the queen was respected and loved throughout the world, but somehow there have been so many

predictions that it would be the end of the monarchy when she died and yet what we're seeing is this outpouring of affection not just for the queen, but for the monarchy itself and the ascension of king charles has been remarkably smoothed and defied expectations. but it's entirely fitting that the crowds coming to respect the late queen are record breaking because that's what she was throughout her reign. >> and we are seeing the plane that has carrying her coffin coming into raf northolt and once it gets on the ground, we understand it will be put into a hearse and driven here to buckingham palace. as you're watching this, what goes through your mind? >> i sort of have to pinch myself because i spend much of my life writing about the monarchy and as you said, my new

book is a history of the monarchy and i'm having to go back and write a new chapter. it's just unfolding in front of our eyes and it's just extraordinary. we thought about this, detailed plans have been made for this for years an some of which the queen actually contributed herself. so yet somehow it seems unreal. it's just extraordinary to see it all playing out now, live, in front of us. >> and we just saw the plane touch down. accompanying the queen on this journey, as you know, has been her daughter, princess anne, the princess royal. she just issued a statement through buckingham palace where she said i was fortunate to share the last 24 hours of my dearest mother's life. it has been an honor and a privilege to accompany her on her final journeys. witnessing the love and respect shown by so many on these journeys has been both humbling

and uplifting. we will all share unique memories. i offer my thanks to each and every one who share our sense of loss. it is a reminder, isn't it, tracy, that as many of the people who have turned out on the streets do so because they are looking for some sense of community and comfort in their loss. by coming, they are providing comfort to the royal family. >> they are. and it's this curious thing in that we all feel like we've lost a member of our family and yet most of us never knew the queen at all. but it's a deeply personal loss as well as a national and an international loss. i'm personally very pleased to see the prominent role that the queen's daughter, princess anne, has played. the first female member of the guard of honor watching over her mother's coffin. i think one of the queen's greatest legacies is that she finally was able to introduce a quality into the royal succession, given equal

precedence to girls as to boys in the line of succession. and that's a change that took 1,000 years and i think it will be elizabeth ii's most abiding legacy. >> one of the members of the royal air force said it would be among his greatest duties to be a part of this final moment of the queen returning to london for the last time. that is going to do it for us this last hour. as we've seen, the queen's coffin will soon be put on to the hearse and driven here to buckingham palace behind me where people have been waiting in the rain for hours to pay their respects. katy tur reports will have much more of this coverage live from london, next. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. ♪ feel the difference with downy.

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good to be with you. right now, the queen has left scotland for the last time. her coffin accompanied by her daughter, princess anne, has just landed back home in london seconds ago. from here, she's going to head to buckingham palace. it's a 14-mile drive, but it should take one hour. she lies in state tomorrow and there are already people lined up. they started cueing this morning and will bein