good to be with you. right now, the queen has left scotland for the last time. her coffin accompanied by her daughter, princess anne, has just landed back home in london seconds ago. from here, she's going to head to buckingham palace. it's a 14-mile drive, but it should take one hour. she lies in state tomorrow and there are already people lined up. they started cueing this morning

and will be cueing for quite a long time because this does not begin until tomorrow. her lying in state. you can see right here, the folks that lined up and were able to say their final good-bye to the queen in scotland both yesterday and earlier today. it's been a remarkable set of images and just a reminder, this is her last trip home to buckingham palace as well. once she leaves, she's never going to go back. let's bring in molly hunter who's live for us. also, andrew roberts, her british historian. molly, you are buy where those people are lining up right now. what have they been saying about why they got there so early? >> reporter: that's right. we are in front of westminster. i want to show you where the actual hall is she will be lying in state. it's closest to big ben, but this is the line. 24 hours in advance. i just want to give you a sense.

it is raining as you know, you're on the other side of town. people are lining up prepared to wait 24 hours. i met these lovely women over here. ladies, you are, i see you've now sat down. this is jackie, pauline, suzanne and patricia. are you ready to wait 24 hours? >> absolutely. >> what did you bring? >> food, drinks, everything. >> yes. >> lots of layers. >> torch. >> and a torch. you're probably what, number 50? >> 42, 43, 44, 45, 46. >> these are some of the first people that are going to get into westminster hall. what have they told you about waiting out here? >> our own fault, whatever happens to us tonight. >> whatever happens. i see a nice man just brought

your chairs. >> yeah. that's amazing that such a stranger has given us chairs and said anything we want. we've got his number. we can just call him. >> grab a hot tea or whatever. >> he said he's going to introduce us to the concierge. >> and the four of you just met. >> there's five of us. >> but you are now going to watch out for each other overnight. >> that's what this is all about. >> and why did you come here? why did you have to come? >> i'll get emotional. because i love the queen. and she saved our country so well and she's been my people, my life. so my point of view, dear to my life. means the world to be here. >> all the things she's done for us, this is nothing that she's getting back, you know.

she deserves more. >> one night. one night. >> she deserved much more than that, honestly. she's the world. means the world to us. >> okay, well i'll be back with you guys shortly. katy, i'm going to send it back to you. we're be here the next several hours. people are ready to line up. we are seeing such a different side of this country. even people who don't necessarily love the queen in the same way paulina does are ready to wait for the chance to pay their respects. >> yeah, and you can see the mention of emotions. you have some people feeling very sad about this. some quite joyful. this is a celebration of a long and well lived life. 96 years old. the country had been preparing for it. it was a long time coming for many. what we're seeing now, about to see in just a moment at the raf air force at northolt is the queen's coffin leaving that

plane and descending it, meeting a queen's color squadron and a bearer party along with a guard of honor. they're going to convey this coffin to the state first. they'll present arms on the arrival of the coffin. and remain in that position until the state hearse has departed the airfield. now, the state hearse is going to take a route to buckingham palace that will include a number of roads that will be lined as we expect with a lot of well wishers. a lot of people saying their last good-bye. you see princess anne right there. she flew in alongside the coffin. releasing a statement saying it was an honor to do so. also, the vigil last night, the vigil of princes where they stood along all four corners of the coffin in edinburgh, that was the first time a princess has ever been able to do that.

andrew, you're the expert on this. just help us understand what we're seeing. >> in a sense, it was very fortuitous. even now to have a chance to say good-bye to her which they took with gusto. on both sides of the coffin, some five-hour wait. going back a mile which gave us a sense of what it's going to be like over the next five days here in london. i think that the way in which princess anne first of all took part in the vigil of the princes, which the first woman ever to do that, and the very fact that it was all televised. the fact she has now come down in the plane with the queen. these are all new things. this was not the way it was done. i think you're seeing the monarchy modernize the way in

which we saw television allowed into the counsel, for example, and in other occasions is improving in westminster hall yesterday. gives us an idea that king charles does want to move with the times in the way it was intended. it stays once step behind society. >> and a statement from the princess royal princess anne who flew down with her husband as they await this coffin. she says i was fortunate to share the last 24 hours of my da dearest mother's life. witnessing the love and respect on these journeys has been both humbling and uplifting. i offer my thanks to each and every one who share my sense of loss. we may have been reminded of how

much we took for granted. i'm also grateful for the support and understanding offered to my dear brother, charles, as he accepted the added responsibilities of the monarch. to my mother, the queen, thank you. so we're seeing this salute here, andrew. we're going to be seeing the coffin any moment from now. here it is. bearing the royal standard once again. being carried slowly. this is a lead-lined coffin. it weighs a lot. these pallbearers here, the men carrying it, will have had to have practiced carrying this behind the scenes because it does weigh so much and they don't want to leave anything to chance. it's a strikingly emotional moment for this country, andrew. >> it is. well, of course, just for the shared fact that we haven't seen something like this for 70 years

and it's going to be pretty extraordinary. but the way in which this is being done for a woman who was so beloved across the realms. it added hugely to the power at the moment. you see there as you say the raf carrying the coffin. they practiced this with lead in the coffin to make sure they got the right weight and of course with the flowers on top. they absolutely have to take it as slowly as you can see they are taking it. but with tremendous professionalism in good order. >> and you can see the royal standard has changed to the royal standard of the united kingdom as opposed to the royal standard of scotland. those two yellow quadrants are replaced with red and the trio of lions instead. once she makes it to buckingham palace, again, a 14-mile

journey, she will be met by king charles and it's going to be historic moment because this is, she hasn't been in buckingham palace since she went on vacation to balmoral. this will be the last time she goes. she will wait in the bow room before they begin the procession tomorrow where she will lie in state. and andrew, they're expecting maybe a million people to show up to say good-bye. maybe a million people trying to get in line to file through westminster hall. the times of london is reporting only 350,000 can probably fit in due to capacity and time restraints. at some point, they're going to have to cut the line off. so many people. >> they are, but i'm wondering whether or not they might take the, again, unprecedented step, of going on both sides rather than just on the right hand side

as you go through westminster. that would double the speed. if so, you could have three people abreast, you could ensure nobody stops for long. if the queen mother's lying in state is anything to go by, you can get people going through fairly swiftly. especially if it's going to be for 23 hours a day. but it would be such a shame if people were to join the cue, stay overnight and then not get a chance to see the lying in state. then you'd have a lot of disappearance of people, which obviously you don't want on the day of the funeral. >> that's very true and last night in scotland as people waited overnight in line, it's reported one man passed out and they had to start handing out those foil blankets to make sure everyone was okay. it is getting colder here. it's raining today. and the temperature's dropping.

there are already people lined up waiting to see her lying in state which means they will be waiting for over 24 hours. more than 24 hours, including in the overnight hours. it's going to be a logistical effort to make sure all those people are fed and watered and safe as they wait there overnight. that's something the british police forces are tending with right now. we're seeing a similar style hearse to what we saw when she was driving through scotland. her coffin was driving through scotland. so that you can see the coffin, so that everybody who stands by the road will get a look at that coffin. and right now again, princess anne and her husband, his royal honor guard, standing and waiting as she makes her final journey to buckingham palace. it has been as we said, just a remarkably emotional day. it's also been an important day politically for this entire

country. king charles visited belfast earlier today. he was met with a sea of supporters, but despite appearances, there are real stakes there for the king and for the united kingdom. keyword, united. there is deep political anguish in northern ireland. a country that has been defined by years of sectarian violence. tensions in the region have been particularly dicey since brexit and the appointment of liz truss. despite the division up north and complete separation from the monarchy in ireland's republic, queen elizabeth was widely regarded as bridge builder across ireland. she spent the last decade of her reign in particular trying to draw a line under the pain of what's known as the troubles while also acknowledging the uk's role in the region's bitter politics. during a visit to the republic

in 2011, she stepped on to the field of the park, the site of bloody sunday, the irish massacre of innocent civilians in 1972. she addressed the country's president and prime minister for the first time in irish. a language that was once outlawed by the english during their occupation. and most notably, she made history a year later in belfast. a four second handshake with martin mcginnis, the former leader of the irish republican army, the same one who assassinated her cousin in 1979. these two in the same room let alone shaking hands would have been unimaginable just a few years prior, but she did it. king charles knows this history. today was his first visit to northern ireland as king. but it is his 40th as a royal. like his mother did with martin

mcginnis, then prince charles met and shook hands with his counterpart. a man named jerry adams. adams is one of the most recognizable faces of that nation and led the party for decades. he was also accused of being on the ira army counsel when irish soldiers killed charles' great uncle and mentor, lord mountbatten. today, as king, he reflected on queen elizabeth's role as a peacemaker before a prayer service with the irish president and the prime minister. >> my mother saw pass through historic changes. my mother felt deeply, i know, the significance of the role she herself played in bringing together those who history has separated. and in extending a hand to make possible the healing of long

held hurts. >> joining me now from outside of hillsboro castle in northern ireland is david blevins. i know there's a band next to you so we'll be fighting that noise. we've laid out the history here. give us what happened today and what it could mean for the future given how tense it is in ireland right now. >> yes, it's a pipe band tuning up just to my left for an act of remembrance here at hillsboro castle. the royal residence in northern ireland. so we may be competing with them shortly. but northern ireland, still part of the united kingdom, is a place in 2022 almost equally divided. 50% of the population regard themselves as british. the other 50% are very proud to call themselves irish. in the not so recent past, those 50% who call themselves irish

might have been very vocal in their anti-monarchy sentiment. that's not so much the case now. there's more apathy perhaps towards the british monarchy and in a large number of of people, respect for those grieving. it's a huge amount of work her majesty the queen did to build bridges on this island. >> and what about might come? you're talking about how there's not as much angry sentiment any longer, but there's brexit, liz truss, and the question surrounding what might happen with the border between northern ireland and the republic. what might that mean for the future? >> well today, we have an echo of that historic handshake between the queen and martin mcginnis, a former commander, when his successor, who is currently the first minister designate of northern ireland,

extended her hand to the new king, charles iii, and thanked him for her condolences. you know things have changed in northern ireland when she is expressing her profound regret at the death of the queen and extending her sympathy to the heir to the throne. so today at a time when unionists are feeling apprehensive about their future, they will be reassured by the fact that the king has come here and underscored their sense of britishness,but there will be hope that the process will remain on track because it's been very warm in its response to the king in his time of grief. >> david, thank you very much. joining me now is social and political writer, lola, and white house columnist, nyles.

we are seeing the beginning of the journey. for queen elizabeth back to buckingham palace. it should take about an hour before she arrives behind me in that glass topped hearse. nyle, you're from belfast. when you watched the reception today, when you watched how fane received king charles, how the community came out to line the streets, what was your reaction? >> extraordinary moment by any standard. extraordinary moment in a succession of extraordinary moments. david mentioned the late queen elizabeth meeting martin mcginnis at an earlier stage of the peace process. these things when i was a child or a teenager in belfast would have been absolutely inconceivable and martin mcginnis, a former ira commander, the ira killed queen elizabeth's cousin, as you noted.

there were also hurts inflicted by british forces on irish nationalists, of course. and the idea that those hurts or those old wounds could be bridged had just seemed not something within the realm of possibility. for mcginnis, almost the personification of what the ira considered its struggle to meet with the queen and be visited by her. amazing stuff. so we're seeing the continuation of that now. though i do think it's somewhat of a more controversial, political figure at least. one of queen elizabeth's stronger points was that she was personally very inoffensive even for people we find the institution of the british monarchy. >> let's play a little bit of the interviews we gathered today from northern ireland. as you can imagine, the reaction to charles and the monarchy was

somewhat split. >> he knows we're very loyal to the throne and keep us british forever because we are british. you know, we're british people. we're so proud of him. we're so proud of the queen. >> queen never done nothing for us. none of the royals do. >> the queen epitomized everything it meant to me to be british but she also knew how important it was to reach the hand out of friendship. >> northern ireland is not part of the commonwealth. it's one of the home countries so it's not quite the same, but there are discussions about what might happen in the future to all of ireland. whether at some point it will be reunited. there are also discussions about scotland. i know you look at what's been going on with the monarchy around the world through that lens. what are your thoughts? >> yeah, it's really interesting, actually, to hear within the uk those same

questions about you know, what happens next and who are we. it really does come down to identity. clearly with northern ireland, you know, these issues have been going on for a long time. i remember growing up in england, you know, the ira was a big deal. i remember bombs and bomb threats and just being aware of the whole situation. one thing about charles, king charles, he's old enough to have seen all of that. to have had conversations with his mother and to be well versed and understand enough how important it is that the peace process is kept in tact. even though it's not supposed to be political and there's a political issue with northern ireland with regard to brexit, perhaps that's something he could guide liz truss on who knows. but i just think it's very interesting to hear these conversations about sovereignty. about independence. about unification. about change and what all of

that means in light of the new king. one thing i will say with all the pomp and circumstance, i think it gives a very strong, powerful message that the monarchy knows what it's doing. there are plans. they are well carried out and i think part of that is to reassure the public that you know, there might be a new king, but we have things sorted. >> there's a continuity, but also a generational divide for the monarchy. that's also true in the united kingdom and here in london. we talked to the older generations. they are much more loyal. they feel it much more strongly than some of the younger folks. >> yeah. you know, i think a lot of that has to do with the times we're living in in terms of technology and social media. older people growing up, you could have your personal conversations about how you felt about the monarchy at home, for example, but they did what they

did and you you were just going to express your view to yourself. whereas we live in an age now where people have much more of an opportunity to speak out against institutions and systems they find uncomfortable or don't like. i think that's a big difference in terms of king charles' new reign is that he's coming into a time when the ability of people to speak is much broader, much wider and actually makes much more of an impact on society than ever before and you're already seeing people who have been arrested for speaking out about, shouting about prince andrew and somebody was arrested saying hey, who elected the king. and it's not just likely. t going to happen. there will be a lot more of that. i don't think that's something king charles could avoid even from being in the ivory tower so to speak. >> these relationships can have global consequences as well. especially when talking about brexit and the eu and trading

around the world. the white house did seem to step into this a little bit. president biden spoke with liz truss for the first time on tuesday. the readout from the white house said the leaders talked about protecting the good friday agreement and a deal should be made on the northern ireland protocol. this was interpreted as warning shot from the white house to truss. how far do you think the u.s. is willing to get involved to keep peace over this issue. if you could just give us a one line explainer on the good friday agreement to remind everybody. >> that's a challenging -- the good friday agreement was the 1998 peace agreement that set up a power sharing executive in belfast in which both irish nationalists would be represented. as to the american administration, i think they will go quite far in defense of the good friday agreement. president biden is very proud of

his irish heritage, but it's not just that. he's of the generation that was very involved in the irish peace process during the presidency of bill clinton in particular. and america also was leveraged here because the united kingdom post brexit feels it needs a trade deal with the united states and both president biden and the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, have been very emphatic about the need to not just protect the good friday agreement writ large, but to protect the fact that only island of ireland now, there's a very soft border and people ask me about this. if you travel across the border no ireland, the road markings change and that's about it. when i was a teenager, there were army fortifications around that border. it was like a militarized zone. the argument of the biden administration is that there can't be any return to that kind

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the investigation for the documents found at mar-a-lago, "the new york times" reporting about what could be a big escalation into the other doj investigation into trump. according to the times and now nbc news, the justice department issued roughly 40 subpoenas and seized the phone of two of trump's advisers. the times describes it as quote, some of the most aggressive steps they have taken into the actions that led to the january 6 assault on the capitol by a pro trump mob.

joining me now is nbc news justice reporter, ryan riley. former u.s. attorney charles carlton and katie benner, who contributed to today's report. also an msnbc contributor. hearing a little noise here because there are multiple sets on site and sometimes things just fall down. ryan, let's get to the reporting about the subpoenas and also these phones. what do we know? >> this is all basically in regards to the interference with the peaceful transfer of power, which has something that merrick garland said he's going to be laser focused on in terms of this investigation. a lot of this has trickled out including the times report last night after we had steve bannon said 35 people had had their homes raided by the fbi. that of course wasn't the case, but he was describing subpoenas being issued, but never the

less, this is a significant step forward. regarding the fake electors scheme. the language we've seen around this is pretty indicative of the fact there's an investigation into a potential charges of obstruction of an official proceeding, which is a charge that has been used very frequently against january 6th defendants or the run of the mill folks who went inside the capitol, who preplanned the capitol, as well as some of the individuals associated with the proud boys and oath keepers who engaged in the coordinated efforts to storm the capitol. >> and katie, the fbi seized phones from two of donald trump's associates. boris epshteyn, an in-house counsel. also, micro man, a campaign strategist who worked for the campaign in 2020. what might they be trying to find out from these two men in regards to january 6th? >> these two gentlemen are key

legal advisers to the former president. one of them was working on the plan to submit fake slates of electors that wrongfully stated donald trump had won in several key swing states and there are people who could help prosecutors understand trump's state of mind. how he was thinking, whether or not he truly believed the election was stolen, and some of his efforts to push back on joe biden's win. one of the things prosecutors will want to know is who told them to do things. >> they were subpoenaed back in january. what does it say about the escalation into what we're seeing around january 6th? there's been all this talk, katie, about whether they're following the january 6 committee or the committee is following the investigation. do we have that sorted? >> so i think what the justice department would say that they are not following any other

investigation. they're taking investigative steps if they find evidence that leads them to take those steps. you're right. taking the phones is a very interesting move because it implies that even though prosecutors had records and electronic records, they needed something that was on the phone. we also know that trump officials were using encrypted apps and private messaging apps so perhaps they needed to get the physical phones to see pictures of conversations happening between those men. >> a little activity behind me here at buckingham palace. we're going to find out what's going on. paul, you're a former federal investigator. what can you tell me about the legal significance of what we've seen? >> so what we know is that if there are 40 some grand jury subpoenas that have been issued. if we know there are at least two search forms that have been

issues, one to a lawyer, that this is an ongoing and intensive investigation. we have some insight because when you issue a subpoena, that is relatively easy to do, but when you are then required to review what will most certainly be a great deal of evidence, information, and testimony that come from those subpoenas in that search warrant, you have to dedicate significant resources and before you dedicate significant resource, you and the department of justice, merrick garland, has to believe this is a case worthy of those resources. that it is important and that what has occurred is significant enough that other crimes have to be put to one's side. other events that are taking place in the nation have to be put on pause and instead, we have to focus on this ongoing investigation which is now more than one in number. >> so it looks like they've opened up some of the barriers here at buckingham palace and the crowds are just forming so they can get a shot of the hearse as it drives by, which

should be in about 30 minutes, maybe a little bit less. that's the account for all that commotion behind me. paul, if you're looking at where they are in the investigation, can we say, i know the doj in a filing said that they were early on in the investigation into the records found at mar-a-lago, do we know where they are in this investigation by what we've seen so far? >> we can say this and this will sound familiar. if they have obtained a search warrant for a phone record, we know they have demonstrated to a neutral judge that there is probable cause that a crime occurred and that will be found on a phone. remember in the old days, it was very eventful as it was in mar-a-lago, to go down and search someone's private residence. it may be more impactful nowadays to gather information from a cell phone.

to get every single phone call that you have made. get recordings of voice mails and when there are encrypted apps, we sometimes gain access to communications that the holder of that phone may have believed were encrypted. finally, katy, because one of these phones belongs to a lawyer, department of justice attorneys prosecutors will be very careful to make sure they are not infringing upon any client attorney privilege. and there will be again another phrase that's familiar to your listeners, another routine in place. >> i was going to ask just that when i was talking about whether, about how the legal advisers. paul, katie and ryan, thank you very much. and he signed it, but now he is celebrating it. the president will gather democrats and supporters at the white house in just a few minutes to tout the inflation

reduction act. what he will say about today's news that inflation has risen yet again. 8.3% according to the latest data. a little higher than july. groceries are still more expensive and so are most goods. the market did not like it either. the dow plunging today. you can see it right there. down almost 1,000 points. the good news, gas prices are still falling. joining me now is nbc's senior business analyst and host of the 11th hour, stephanie rule. inflation is much higher here in the uk so at least it's not the same as what they are dealing with, but walk us through this because joe biden is about to go out and say i've signed this bill, it's going to get better. i'm sure people are asking when is it going to get better. >> not for quite some time. if you think about what's in the inflation reduction act, these are things that could be long-term solutions and they are going to impact healthcare

costs, prescription costs. it is going to address climate. those are big positives and biden will be able to say i passed the inflation reduction act. this is something republicans hammered on. so now at the very least, president biden can turn to republicans and say none of you voted for that. to lower the cost of insulin. what are you offering? but for the every day american, is it going to impact their life immediately? no. and in your every day life with the exception of gas prices, and that is a big one, gas prices, a lot of other things still cost an awful lot of money. >> look at the polling we have. 56% of americans say inflation has caused hardship. of course it has. everything is more expensive. the only bright spot are gas prices. but lynnette, stephanie touched on this. the president's going to tout the inflation act today. republicans haven't signed on to

it. we are close to the midterms. almost a couple of months away. is this gaming the public perception right now in order to hold on a little longer for this act to go into effect? if it does actually reduce inflation. >> i think that president biden is trying to take control of the things he can control. a lot of what is inflationary in the global economy right now has nothing to do with what president biden can act on. we're looking at energy prices that are international set. the war in ukraine which is elevated food prices. as you pointed out, inflation is much worse in the uk than it is in the u.s., showing this is not just an american problem. i'm trying to tackle the part of inflation i can tackle. if you look at the report today, healthcare costs were up almost

25%. the most they've ever gone up in american history. and so biden making that a part of his platform and pointing out the fact the republicans are literally nothing to do and want nothing to do with lowering drug prices. i think is him saying yes, i am tackling this, but you know, we've got long-term problems. medium term problems and short-term problems that are all inflationary and there's only so much any one government can do and most of the short-term problems i would say. >> with covid came a supply chain crisis. things shutting down. ports getting overloaded with the war in ukraine came an energy crisis. >> it's a mess. >> and yet energy prices are going down, but the feel prices, energy prices, in some cases are higher than people's rent. that's how bad things are here in europe.

>> i mean, european energy is one of the stories that could change all of geopolitics for the next five to ten years. so what the white house is grappling with with our inflation challenges is not just domestically destabilizing. it's internationally destabilizing and we as americans, what's unfortunate is that we kind of have to sit here and be patient and see if what the federal reserve is doing is and you know, kind of geopolitics changing a little bit more in our favor, is able enough to bring inflation down without forcing some kind of recession. wall street has actually become more bullish on that happening over the last couple of weeks, but today's numbers definitely don't help. >> a lot of corporations are anticipating it and telling people if not directly and indirectly to expect some budget cuts and potentially layoffs. stephanie, what does this mean

for the fed? does this all but guarantee we're going to have another interest rate hike. >> the reason they're raising rates is to help the economy. that just means it will be more expensive to borrow. not just in a car loan, a home loan, but for companies. companies want to be able to borrow cheap. that's how they grow. and when rates go up, it becomes more expensive for them to boar borrow and we could see layoffs, a slowdown, which our economy might be able to absorb given how strong the labor market is. >> stephanie, lynnette, thank you. i wish you were here with me. >> in happier times. >> ladies, thank you very much. we are continuing to watch the queen's coffin on its way here

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like this. politico has reported all foreign dignitaries were asked to travel commercial then by shuttle bus to the funeral. it's hard to imagine the secret service would sign off on the president of the united states going anywhere without the beast. the british papers report an exception will be made. joining me now is british historian, andrew roberts, megan hayes and peter baker. so megan, i think it's safe to assume that joe biden will be traveling in his own armored vehicle. >> i would assume so. the uk government and secret service work really well together. the president has enjoyed two trips there in his term and they've worked really well together so i imagine they will make an exception for him to live up to security protocols needed. >> peter baker, i know you've covered a lot of events over the

years. a lot of big events. this is unlike anything any of us have seen. we showed the file footage of churchill. that was large and grand. they were honoring a pivotal figure in this country's history, but again, queen elizabeth is just a step above all of that. the queen mother had a pretty large funeral and turnout, but again, this is a step above it and all of these foreign dignitaries coming. so many of them, peter, that they've been asked just to bring one person. just their spouse because there's no room for anybody else. >> yeah, it's rather remarkable. we haven't seen anything like this in generations. i'm reminded of the kennedy funeral in '63. basically, there are few events on the world stage coming close to this. and you're right, it's unusual for world leaders to get on a bus. you can only bring a plus one. usually a president would bring former presidents to this kind

of event. there would be a delegation of multiple american presidents. we've seen that at the pope's funeral, some others. not the case here. president trump and obama, those are not coming with president biden. and it's i think it speaks to her unique place in the world. both today and for generations that nothing else comes close. i remember one time i was at an international summit in 2014. she was there. the president of the united states was there. why isn't the motorcade moving? because the queen's was moving. the only one given priority over the president of the united states. >> we're expecting to see the coffin and hearse drive by. imagine what it must be like on the road right now trying to get home in one of those double decker buses. you can see the streets are lined with people. this is where things start to slow down a little as it gets into central london. they are making their way to

buckingham palace and andrew, i know we keep going back to you to put this in perspective to give it the weight it deserves because we continue to see image after image that we've never seen before and that we might not see again in the same way. >> i'm impressed you managed to get churchill's funeral there, 1965. the last time there was a state funeral. you're going to have the naval waiting. the coffin will be on. that will be quite a sight. you can see it right now. and at that funeral, various other world leaders. the royal family is pulling dozens of ends and other people

so that was precedence. i think there will be something that happens on monday -- they usually like something that isn't in the formal agenda. keep your eyes open for that. >> heathrow airport just coming over the lines now has said it is going to delay some flights between 1:50 and 3:40 tomorrow so there will be insured silence during the ceremonial procession. not great for passengers, but they want to make sure london is as quiet as possible for what will be the most solemn of events when the coffin travels from buckingham palace to

westminster hall. 350,000 people can get inside. we were talking about them maybe doing double lines to get more people in. 750,000 to a million people expected. the line to get in may be 20 hours long. folks were told to stand the entire time, maybe prepare for it. bring their own food. now there's talk of keeping the shops open so people can get something to eat and segmenting the line so that some people can sit down and get a rest so that they don't tire anybody out. again, 20 hours is quite a long time. one man last night according to the times of london, passed out because it was so cold in scotland, they ended up bringing some of those foil blankets along. it is getting rainy and dreary here, andrew. the mood is paralleled by the weather. >> yes, that's right. of course, scotland is colder than london and i doubt it's

going to get cold tonight here. but that's not going to put anybody off. this is the key thing. this is a once in a lifetime experience. for 90% of british people who have never known any other monarch. so actually, a bit of cold and wet isn't going put us off. especially not londoners because we are used to both. but i think that these cues, these lines that the police are estimating are if anything underestimated. i think we're going to see many more than 350,000 people wanting to get through westminster hall. i think that's going to mean people walking three abreast and possibly two lines down either side of it, which is very much speed things up. >> talking about london being full for quite possibly the very first time. the hearse is getting relatively close to where we are in buckingham palace.

let's talk about the security that goes into something like this. you've been there for talks of trips overseas among very important people. what's being spoken about behind the scenes right now? >> i think that the top priority here is to make sure everyone is able to pay their respects to the queen in a safe manner. so i think all the different security apparatuses that you have in the uk as well as all the foreign dignitaries that are coming in are working closely together to make sure that happens. i would imagine this will be the safest place in the world over the next couple of days due to the coordination of many governments across the world. >> peter, you cover, you've covered so much international news. queen elizabeth was on the front for so many years. she would say she knows the politics, their fathers, too. there are so many people coming out for this funeral. i wonder if there's ever going to be an event like this that

will rival the number of dignitaries, who's who that's coming out to see somebody off. not to mention the sheer numbers of people across this country and even the world who felt a kinship with her. >> i think you're right. the mix of dignitaries and every day people is what makes this so remarkable, right. is that she did in fact know every royal leader. she met 13 american presidents. she had 15 prime ministers under her, during her reign and yet there is this sense that the every day people there felt a connection with her that they haven't always felt with their own elected leaders at times. that's what i think makes this different. this is not a right left event in a moment when our politics here and in europe are so divided. this is not a moment where you know, folks are dwelling on policy issues, although those are raised. the history of the british empire and colonies of course

are being discussed, but for her farewell, i think it is a moment where people have come together across lines and will pay respects for the better aspects of what she represented and they can discuss the rest of that on some other occasion. >> and peter, isn't that what's so foreign to us about what is set up here in the united kingdom? our head of state is a presidency. their head of state is a monarch. sometimes you don't get a great one and some terrible things happen. elizabeth, and she oversaw a lot over her 70 years. much of it is dismantling of the empire and the forming of the commonwealth and now it's starting to break away, but she was something this country could rally around in the darkest of times. >> she was a figure of unity and continuity. our president is our head of

state and we elect them based on their policies. she didn't take a position on policy. that wasn't her role. her role was to act as a symbol of the nation, of the commonwealth and i think she played that with rather remarkable results. >> peter, andrew, and megan, thank you very much. we are just a couple of minutes away now from the hearse making it to buckingham palace where i am standing and there are again thousands upon thousands of people here waiting in the rain to see it go by. that is going to do it for me. hallie jackson picks up our coverage now from washington. >> our thanks to katy tur and her team on the ground in london doing exceptional coverage of this historic moment in london. as you see now, the live picture of the hearse carrying the coffin of the queen making its way through the city, getting closer to buckingham palace, where king charles, his wife,

now the queen consort, and all of the