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composite fell by more than 5%. those drops erasing nearly all of the market's recent rally. let's bring in dom chu. what is it looking like this morning? >> what we have is some stability and the reason why, this morning we got the producer price index, that is to say wholesale or business level inflation. the reason why you want to look at this is because it could become a precursor or leading indicate for what consumer prices will look like in the coming week and months. what we did see is on a month over month basis, business level inflation costs actually fell by one tenth of 1% and that matched economists' expectations. so you are seeing a bit of an easing there. if you strip out the effects of food and energy prices, which can be more volatile, we did see those prices still though rise by 0.2% on a month over month basis, still less than what
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economists were expecting. so what you have right now is a scenario where business level inflation does appear at least from one data point to be moderating a little bit, which is why even with that data showing a large year over year increase, up around 8.7%, it is still lower than it was in the previous month. that is leading some to be a little more optimistic which is why you are not seeing a mastiff market reaction today the likes of what you saw yesterday. but what it comes down to is whether or not this will change the calculus for the fed. and at last check on the heels of that inflation data this morning, there is now pretty much an expectation predominantly that the fed next week will raise short term interest rates by now three quarters of 1% and there is a 34% chance that the fed will raise rates by one full percentage point mark. and if they were do that, hypothetically, if the fed were to raise by one full percentage point, it would be the largest
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single raise for the fed since the early 1980s when of course america was dealing with a much bigger inflation problem in the late '70s and early '80s. >> yeah, hey, so dom, let me ask you, looking a day later at that number, which showed still inflation was hot, much hotter than a lot of analysts expected, where did it mainly come from? because you look at gas prices going down, the housing explosion has cooled a bit as well. what is happening? >> and the concern, and the reason the market sold off the way that they did, the headline numbers were not all this dramatic, but what was dramatic is we expected things to cool off because of the massive drop in gasoline prices. energy prices that we've seen. the interesting part about this story is if you dig further deeper, it is those housing
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costs that you mentioned that are remaining stubbornly high which is leaving a lot of folks out there, experts and main street alike, to use the word sticky a lot more. the reason why is because when it comes to things like medical costs which did go hire and also health care costs going higher and rents and ownership costs for homes going higher, those types of costs do not tend to fall traumatically. so much like energy prices can or commodity prices like food can. hence the word sticky. and if you do see an environment right now where housing related costs drive a lot of inflation, those may not cool off. so even with gasoline prices a dollar plus below where they were at their peaks, if housing costs remain high, that is something that the fed has to pay attention to and reason why you saw the markets sell off the way that they did. >> okay. dom chu, thanks so many. mike barnicle, i want to show you what we're talking about, stocks and money, the "new york
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times" front page, it is striking. these 97 members of congress assumed trades and companies influenced by their committees. i've got to say for the life of me as a former member of congress, i have no idea why members of congress are able to trade in any stocks whether you are on a relevant committee or not. how hard is it to talk to somebody on another committee and say hey, what is happening with lockheed or what is happening with whatever? so i just for the life of me, i can't understand why you have members of congress that can still trade in docks especially when they are on the committees that influence those businessesy when they are on the committees that influence those businesses especially when they are on the committees that influence those businesses.ocks especially when they are on the committees that influence those businesses. >> and the sub head on that story, you are looking at it right now, with the roster of people who have profited, public people who have profited from their knowledge of stocks, it
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could well be d.c. insider trading. that is what this is. because you are absolutely right, you know, someone on the ways and means or someone on appropriations and you are talking about this or that, and hey, what do you hear, well, as the bill has just been introduced and you know that bill might move a particular stock that you have and they have been doing this for decades. this has gone on for decades as you well know. and it is a mystery why more people in congress have not gotten behind a bill to restrict this to impose penalties on people who have profited from this stock following public office, and it has to end now. >> it really does. it has to end. and the thing is, it is not just the big bills. maybe there is a small big, a small regulation that will have an impact on a certain business or sector that nobody knows about.
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and it is insider trading. and again, it is bizarre that it has been allowed to go on this long. >> and we'll follow that and let's turn now to the developments in ukraine where the country's military is pushing on with its counteroffensive to liberate occupied cities from russian forces. meagan fitzgerald has the latest from kyiv. >> reporter: the russian military trying to prove that they are still in the fight. but the battlefield appears to be telling a much different story, a graveyard of an ban conned and destroyed russian military equipment. the ukrainian counteroffensive pushing forwardbanconned and de military equipment. the ukrainian counteroffensive pushing forward with no signs of slowing. saying that they have liberate 150,000 people. >> russians have come home in body bags, have come home
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missing limbs, stories of the abject brutality of this war. >> they are demoralized and they have no specific plan how to do so. so we've proven that our planning is way much better, the weapons that are being on the ground are working fine. we just need more to proceed and speed up the process. >> reporter: and a process showing signs that it is working. they were running like mice, this ukrainian soldier said. they were running and abandoning everything, vehicles, their own men. people in liberated towns desperate for aid. but relieved to be free. they are also a angry, civilians and soldiers tearing the russian flag. but as villages are taken back, evidence of horrific war crimes are surfacing again.
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this time in kharkiv. it was horror here, this woman said. investigators recovering bodies, people shot in the head and evidence of torture. >> oh, my god. meagan fitzgerald with that report. joining us now, former operations officer with the cia, an nbc news national security and intelligence analyst. thanks for being on this morning. >> great to have you here. we will not talk about the game last night, we will not talk about the relief pitcher brought in that we should have -- that mr. bloom should have never even brought -- >> okay. >> so let's talk about ukraine. let's talk about intel. i wonder if when this war is over, and pray it ends well for the ukrainian people and those who love and cherish freedom. how big of a story will it be
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what american intelligence has done to help ukrainians every step of the way? we talk about the weaponry all the time and it is have a ordinary what america and its allies are doing with weaponry. but how big of a role is u.s. intelligence playing in helping the ukrainians? >> sure, joe, and it is an extraordinary role. there will be books written on this. what we've seen in the ukraine the last couple days is something to behold. president zelenskyy has shocked the world, a line taken from when the red sox were down in 2004 came in front of the cameras and said that they would come back and of course they did. always a red sox analogy to be had. but looking at the role of u.s. intelligence, there was reporting on how u.s. intelligence, u.s. military, actually helped the ukrainians plan the counteroffensive and that has to do with kind of detailed targeting. kudos to the bitcoin because i think -- to the biden
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administration because i think a lot of us were criticizing the staff for not doing enough. but clearly we advanced weapons systems such as himars, anti-radiation missiles. and then provision of intelligence temperature it is really quite extraordinary. if i wasn't retired here, i know where i would be. i'd be in ukraine with my colleagues from the cia and from special operations forces. this is a righteous fight. they are doing an incredible job. and there will be books written on this. pretty extraordinary moment. >> we've been providing aid for many months now but it seems like the last week the planned counteroffensive has been so effective. how much of this is about the support for the ukraine, brilliance of the ukrainian military and also the weakness of russia? >> so i think that there is really four factors there. and you alluded to several of
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them. first, of course the fighting spirit and resolve of the ukrainian military and ukrainian people. there is a unity of effort there and that is pretty important. i helped assist foreign groups throughout my career and it was rare to ever see something in ukraine right now. the absolute desire to take their territory back. and second of course is all the western provisions. and russia is corrupt and leaderless and they are fleeing thousand. and if you think about over the years military analysts thought this was the second strongest military on the planet about he said. and last piece is the failure of russian intelligence.
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and they famed to inform president putin about this counteroffensive. and so now we're at a point where i think nobody thought would be possible. >> and so i'll continue if i could with the metaphor that you raised, in 2004, kevin milar was a member of the boston red sox, not a big star but critical to the core spirit and fight of that team. and was a principal reason for their comeback in 2004. so my question regards ncos, the importance of ncos in the field, corporals and sergeants, the spirit of the team, the army, the unit discipline that the ncos provide and the will to fight. if you could take a crack at
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those three elements. >> it is through the russian army has none of that. we've had a relationship with the ukrainians. u.s. intelligence community and the u.s. military since 2014. so it has been some time. and that has allowed us to kind of pass on lessons to teach them and they have taken those and ran with it. so ultimately you have the nco core that it has the ability to make the decisions in the field which the russians do not. and you have a huge difference in the sense that the ukrainians are fighting for their country. russian military, they don't want to be there. they certainly -- they went there, some didn't even know what they were doing. and so there is no kind of driving goal, driving force that is going to propel them forward. the difference is between the two sides are absolutely stark. i think that all the credit goes to the ukrainians first and foremost, but again in the background with what u.s. intelligence and u.s. military has been able to do.
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and i think president biden deserves a lot of credit for where we are. i was critical of his withdrawal from afghanistan. the fact that we were pulling everyone out and the means in how we did it, but i think this is his finest hour. his legacy will be the u.s. and rallying western and nato support to ukraine. and that is something that i think, you know, really should be commended. >> all right. mark, thank you very much. we appreciate it. the house of representatives is back in session now following its august recess on the agenda right away for lawmakers avoid a government shutdown at the end of this month. joining us now, chair of the progressive caucus and your whip of the democratic caucus, congresswoman jayapal, great to have you on. i'm curious what are the progressive goals are and how
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they correlate with the midterm messaging. >> great to be with you and good to be back in session. and to have just attended the celebration ceremony for the "inflation reduction act" and to really see how much we've gotten done. now, in terms of what we have left to do, we have these appropriations bills that we need to pass in order to make sure to fund the government, that deadline is september 30th and we're at work on that. it will probably be a continuing resolution to continue to fund the government. i also think that there are a couple bills like for example the social security act 2100 that would be a very good bill for us to pass. this is something that is incredibly popular across the country and this bill really makes some critical improvements to social security and it contrasts us with the republicans who we know through rick scott and others want to strip away social security. we also hope that the senate
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will pass the marriage equality bill. i think that that is critical to be able to -- [ [ inaudible ] [ need 10 republicans. so those are on the plate. for the midterm elections, number one, we have to tell people how much democrats have done, how we've brought down unemployment tremendously to the lowest point in the last 50 years, the way in which we've created jobs, the way in which we've brought manufacturing back to the united states with the chips act. of course reducing hunger through the american rescue plan. and some of that money is still funding states for child care and other things. and most recently the biggest investment in climate and of course protecting our freedoms. women are furious about the date of births dobbs decision and it is turning women out in droves
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and i think that is a winning formula for the midterms. >> yeah, i think emergency might have helped democrats yesterday with what -- i think lindsey graham helped the democrats with what he said yesterday. and i'm wondering if democrats need to be careful about take being the credit for reducing the inflation, for doing whatever the "inflation reduction act" claims it will do including reduce inflation. can you explain how it will do that and do you think it is something democrats need to be careful about given how hot the economy is right now? even yesterday president biden coming out and celebrating his legislation and the stock market is plummeting. >> i think we have to be careful about not saying everything is mundy dory, rosy and people are doing great. we know families are still struggling with rising costs. we know that gas prices are down. i think that is a really important thing as we go into the midterms.
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and we know we have gotten more money in people's pockets. through the "inflation reduction act," there will be a substantial savings on health care, on prescription drugs, on capping of out of pocket costs. these are all things that americans will feel. they may not feel them in the next month though. and so that is the thing that i think we have to be careful about is saying that we have invested in the future. you will see these benefits. and we want to tell you what they are. we've never before -- you know this, you've covered the hill a long time, we've never been able to get medicare to negotiate drug prices and for the first time we got our foot in the door and we need to make sure americans though about that, but also understand that we're not free and clear. we're still working to get everything -- to get everyone more done. >> and i want to ask you in the last several days, you've made public voice mails that you've received, threats against your life, in july a man was arrested near your home and you've said
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that you wanted to go public with this, though it is deeply personal and deeply hurtful and obviously the messages are appalling. i'm sorry that your family is going through that. but you wanted to show the extent of the threats and the consequences of the rhetoric out there right now. >> that's right. it was not an easy decision to sit down, and i have to say ruby cramer did a phenomenal job on that piece, but i do think it is important to make the tie between donald trump, the big lie, the insurrection, and then all of the violence, political violence/rhetoric that we've seen laced with racism and sexism particularly in our homes. and that piece has generated so much discussion about how real
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this is. this is not a hypothetical thing that, you know, is just theoretical, it is out there. it is happening to us as we try to undertake our government responsibilities. and that shouldn't be the case. and so it feels very important to show what is at stake for the american people in terms of protecting our freedoms, protecting our democracy and the fundamental civility of the country as it does its work. you can disagree with policies, no problem. but to have a person show up with a gun and tell me to go back to india and yell racial and sexually explicit expletives at my house and stalk me is a whole different thing. and it is not just me. we need to protect all of our members' security and i think that is an important thing that has come out of this as well. >> all right. chair of the congressional progress difference caucus,
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the royal family is expected to leave buckingham palace with queen elizabeth ii's coffin on the way to westminster hall. and london officials have announced that all ceremonial viewing areas are now full across the entire city. so as we watch the procession, let's bring in royal historian, professor suzanna lipscomb, and also foreign correspondent matt bradley. matt, set the scene for us. >> reporter: i'm standing right here on the mall and what we'll
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be seeing in the next couple of minutes, you mentioned that this has already started, it started at 2:22 p.m. on the dot. this procession going from buckingham palace off my left shoulder all the way down toward whitehall and westminster hall. you are probably wondering, the queen will be lying in state in westminster hall. you might be wondering where is that? it is inside westminster palace, what we know as the house of commons. right underneath big ben. and it really is the oldest existing part of that complex. it is 1,000 years old and built back in the middle ages. interestingly it is where king charles iii, his name sake, was actually tried in that hole back 600 years ago and sentenced to death. that is where the queen will be lying in state for the next four days starting this afternoon after she makes that journey. and this journey is an interesting one too.
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she will be going from buckingham palace, which is of course the seat of the monarch, of the crown, making her way to westminster hall, the seat of the parliament, of the legislature, through the mall. going through the government area. so symbolically drawing a line between the monarchy on the one side and the democracy on the other. of course the democracy here which gathers with the parliament, with the house of lords at westminster palace, they are deriving the authority of the state from the public there. what makes this a democracy a constitutional monarchy. and it is the queen who gives the authority to the parliament to rule. it is from the queen, from the monday arrest ski that that democracy derives its legitimacy. so what we're seeing today is drawing a symbolic geographic line connecting these two
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central tenants of the united kingdom, something we rarely get to see. normally we just see the democracy element. the queen is just a symbolic sort of imminence behind the power. but now we're seeing these two very much connected and celebrated today. and i want to talk to you a little bit about the celebration. if you can see off my cameraman's left shoulder here, metropolitan police lined up waiting. and if you can see on either side of me there, are firemen, soldier, members of the military and the securities services. these are people who are gathered here today not just to pay tribute to their queen, but to pay tribute to their boss. if you look on their hats and their uniforms, they have little crowns. they are ultimately run by the queen. by the king now. that is their boss. and so they are in service to the monarchy. the military is called the royal armed forces, royal army, the
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royal navy. and it is because of that that we're seeing all of these people who see in the queen a devotion of service to this country, one that i've spoken to some people around here, they say that they can emulate it. one woman in the crowd today, she said that she's worked for the national health service, the nhs, the famous british health service that offers universal health care to all citizens and visitors. and many consider 9 nhs to be a modern miracle. so people who work there remember that it was under the queen's purview that this was established. something that the british people celebrate even if they complain about the nhs all the time, they complain about the government, they still celebrate it, they still consider it to be so central and so important. so we'll see all of that today. this is considered to be by the palace at least a somewhat muted ceremony. this is actually considered to be a personal ceremony, this huge foreign al cortege in which
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planes landing at heathrow have been diverted so as to create this feeling of silence throughout the center of the city. is this a huge or deal, but it will be nothing compared to the actual funeral that we see on monday. >> and it is so interesting, suzanna, watching this, watching these scenes and there of course is the family, the children, grandchildren. it is fascinating the contrast between the scenes of princess diana's funeral, the near mob scenes there. reflected the fact that she was as much of a pop superstar as a former member of the royalty. but here with queen elizabeth ii, matches her personality,
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custom, convention, restraint and a deep respect for the history of the monarchy. >> yes. i think that also the key difference is that diana princess of wales died in her prime when she was very young. and so there was a sense of the tragedy of her life cut short. and the queen died at 96 after a life well lived. and she had what the middle ages would have called a good death. she died at her home with her family and she died having made sure that arrangements for rule after her death would continue seamlessly. this great sense of continuity. but what we definitely have here is a sense of public outpouring, that the mall is completely full. it holds a million people and it is packed. they have had to stop people coming in. and we have here also an indication that the queen was
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commander in chief. we've got 800 service personnel here from all of the armed services, soldiers, sailors, airmen, people who have been combat soldiers as well as guardsmen. and they are processing their queen from the palace as you've heard from matt to westminster hall, this ancient, ancient building. and what we see here is also her family, the members of her immediate family, her children and her grandchildren processing behind her. it is a very moving spectacle. >> could you put in perspective for us for viewers that may not follow the monarchy or follow the history of britain as closely, just put this in historical perspective that only a few other members of the monarchy, over 1,000 years, queen victoria, queen elizabeth
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i, very few others have this oversized role in the history of the monarchy. could you put it in historical perspective for us what we're viewing here? >> yes, i mean, it is certainly true that elizabeth is our longest reigning monarch, one of the greatest monarchs we've had. her role was different to those such as queen elizabeth i or queen victoria because she is -- has been a constitutional monarch. she was out of politics. it is very different to the head of state in america where the head of state has all the power and in the uk, the monarch does not have that power but they have a role to consult and influence the elected government of the day who is the one who is actually making policy. but what she did do was to her personal authority, she could
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bring nations together. she could bring people together. she had a charisma and a kindness that meant the sort of semi sacred quality of monarchy that touched so many people's lives. and what she did, she remained queen during a period when the power of britain was declining. and yet she managed to make sure that there was a role for britain in the world. so i think this moment recognizes her significance and contribution. >> and we're watching live pictures from london, the procession of the queen's coffin to westminster hall. as you can see, members of the royal family are taking part in the procession, in specific order, the king first, duke of york, the princess royale, prince of wales, duke of sussex and more. who you don't see in these live
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pictures is the queen consort, the princess of wales, the countess ofment with wessex who are traveling by car behind. and there will be a short service led by the archbishop of canterbury and then the members of the royal family will depart by car. lying in state then begins through monday morning. matt, if you could explain who is in uniform and who is not and why. >> they are all in uniform expense for one, prince andrew of course not in uniform. this was one of the accommodations that he came to with the royal family, with the queen herself, who was continuing to pay for his legal
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fees. military tradition is strong in the royal family. everyone in the family has served or had an honorary position which entitles them to wear the uniform. and of course all are answerable to the queen. so simply by being in the royal family makes one be a part of the line of command. you are answerable to the commander in chief who is the monarch and then there are other positions below that. so we're seeing the military pomp and circumstance, but when it comes to prince andrew, that makes it quite difficult and it is just a sign of how some of the recent scandals that have clouded the royal family, certainly caused quite a bit of stress for the queen in the final years before she died, this is a royal family that was never that far away from massive scandals. but this is one of the things when we see the death of this queen and when people come out
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to commemorate here, and to speak of her, they remember that there were so many scandals in the royal family like with prince an draw, princess diana, but they also remember that the queen herself was so far above all of these scandals. she seemed to drift over them. so this is something that i think that we'll be seeing here today, this queen who was just beyond reproach as far as many people here consider. >> and you also saw images of harry walking, despite the fact that he stepped away from the firm as one way to put it, harry is also walking there behind the queen's coffin along with his brothers, father and the king. and he stepped away and after he stepped away from the firm, it was decided that he would not be wearing his military uniform
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either. and a spokesman even put out a statement about it, said this, prince harry, duke of sussex, will wear a mourning suit throughout events honoring his grandmother. his decade of the military service is not determined by the uniform he wears and we respectfully ask the focus remain on the life and legacy of her majesty queen elizabeth ii. no doubt, willie geist, that this is one more example of how the monarchy is being slimmed down and trimmed down and also how andrew and harry obviously no longer a per part of it and they are not wearing their military uniforms. >> right, prince harry did serve in the military for a decade, but stepping away from the firm, firm, i and his wife surrendering their titles. and so that is why he is in a
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mourning suit. and i was struck watching some of these pictures that it was 25 years ago last week i guess that the funeral of diana where we saw these men now as boys 15-year-old william and 12-year-old harry walking not in a dissimilar formation behind the coffin of their mother and how things have changed since then. >> yes, some things have changed but i'm struck by the continuity. the word we'd use today, this would be very triggering for those now men william and harry who walked behind the coffin of their mother 25 years ago. and are now walking behind the coffin of another woman who was so dear to them, was with them this week on the happiest and saddest days of their lives. things are different certainly. we know as you have been saying that prince harry is into longer a working member of the royal
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family. and you are absolutely right about the fact that they are in mourning dress because he and prince andrew, very different reasons, had their honorary military titles removed. a way of saying that they don't represent the queen. and yet we know that prince harry was very, very fond of his granny and he must be intensely moved to be here and be part of these formalities, these ceremonies that are to celebrate her life as much as to mourn her. >> you know, joe, mika and willie, if you are of a certain age, these impressive scenes that we're witnessing right here right now, you can't help but remind many americans of those days in late november of 1963 and another funeral cortege
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where prince philip followed the procession carrying president kennedy's body. i think of the stark difference today between our country, the united states, and great britain. could we have a funeral like this today given the divisions in this country. truly an emotional scene. >> and we obviously made a decision in 1776 that we wanted to break from the monarchy. that said, one of the things that many people in britain look to is the fact that you can have
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this event celebrating the extraordinary life and the extraordinary dedication of public service of a woman who could sit down with prime ministers, 15 different prime ministers, from winston churchill to harold wilson to margaret thatcher to tony blair to finally, well, boris johnson and then liz truss. but britain is divided right now. it is still divided over brexit. it is still questioning where it is going in the future. there of course a picture of harry. yes, it brings back memories of when he had to do the same thing as a small child putting on a brave face for the british push and the world walking behind his mother's coffin.
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but, willie, i guess that is the gift of the monarchy of the british people, that this constitutional monarchy allows them to celebrate the life a woman who was able to unify a country through very divisive times. an extraordinary job of being this rock, this force for stability for a nation in a went from an ancient empire when she began her reign to a vibrant technologically advanced post-modern country who despite its challenges, remained one of the most powerful economies in the world. >> i mean, we've talked about this over the last week or so, but just the scope of her life,
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the fact that she was there in london for the blitz, what she has experienced and influenced over history and everything that came after that through the 1960s, the troubles up through all that has happened in the last 30 years, the death of diana, everything that nation has seen. and she's been there with her hand in some way on history for nearly a century. matt bradley, i understand the procession is nearing your position. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: that's right. we're seeing the band playing and we're starting to see a glimpse it looks like of the royal family. coming up behind them. slowly making its way through. we have not yet caught a glimpse of her majesty's coffin itself. yes, so we're seeing now right here on the mall with hundreds
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of people waiting for hours to get a glimpse of this, all of them taking this this extraordinary scene, a once in a lifetime opportunity to watch a final changing of the guard here. and here she is, the queen's coffin. >> all right. we're watching live pictures from london. again, this is the coffin of queen elizabeth in a royal procession to westminster hall with the family walking behind her coffin, really moving images from buckingham palace. they plan to arrive any moment now and there will be a short service held in her honor. and then she will lie in state.
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♪♪ >> you're watching members of the royal family taking part in the procession behind queen elizabeth's coffin which is moving now to westminster hall from buckingham palace. also other members of the royal family, the queen consort, the princess of wales, countess of wessex following behind by car. and as we watch the stunning images of the family that stir up so many images of past funerals related to the royal family, especially the images of william and harry walking behind
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queen elizabeth's coffin, let's take a moment to talk about the monarchy as a whole and how much it is changing over the queen's 70 years on the throne. technology has gone from the infancy of television and radio to the creation of the internet and social media. nbc's molly hunter has a look at how the crown has modernized as technology has grown. >> reporter: the queen who made history with the first televised coronation now honored in the modern era she helped usher in. after the queen passed,en a official notice announcing her death was placed outside buckingham palace but the world had already learned about it from a tweet. 25 years ago when the queen and prince philip met with mourners in the wake of princess diana death, hands outstretched and now cellphones fill so many hands capturing so many
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conversations with the royals in their own words. hike when the quote fab four greeted crowds in a waterhead moment. the princess of wales sharing a comment from prince louis. and another woman telling people later that prince william spoke with her about his children and his school year saying he wanted a normal life for george, louie and charlotte. and meghan and harry getting so close to the crowd and even the visiting pets. and king charles meeting a corgi, a favorite of course in northern ireland. it is all part of a closer relationship that has developed since princess diana shook things up pushing for closeness with her many fans with hugs a gesture repeated by kate. and even king charles welcoming
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a can kiss by a well wisher. >> if you are filming everything, that can be sometimes a wart in the whole approach. >> reporter: the new king has shown some frustrations in viral moments under the spotlight. but he signaled the modernization of the monarchy will continue under his reign. >> i'm deeply aware of this great inheritance. >> reporter: and along with queen consort camilla, they have been met with smiles from london, to scotland to northern ireland as the united kingdom mourns the queen, the throngs of people appreciating the chance to get up close and personal to the next generation. >> all right. back now live, looking at the images, now you can see the royal family members of the royal family walking behind queen elizabeth's coffin. and suzanna, watching meagan
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fitzgerald's package, the report that she did -- molly hunter, so sorry -- on how technology has changed and the connection between the royal family and its subjects appears to be evolving, how do you imagine the future under king charles with his boys and the relationship with the subjects changing more? >> it seems very much as molly was saying that it will be an age of being more open and less reserved, more technology as we've seen, a sense of being present to the people much more. of course it doesweakness, the they are human will be exposed as well. and i really felt with that moment with the king and the leaky pen. this is a man who just lost his mother, who has been traveling nonstop, must be utterly fatigued, is having to maintain
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his composure in the face of the world. if a pen leaked on me, i'm sure i would have said something much worse. and so you understand having to hold it together in these circumstances, it must be so challenging. so i feel that it will bring them under more scrutiny, but let's hope that we offer them what the queen asked for in hope offer them what the queen asked for in 1992, a touch of understanding, as we see them walk along. >> it's a bit of an odd circumstance that charles is known for all of the 73 years that likely one day he would be the king of england. now here he is. i imagine no matter how much you have prepared over the deades, the gravity of that title is setting on him now. >> he is perhaps the best prepared heir in british history in that he's been beside his mother and learned the job at her right hand. yet imagine knowing throughout your life you were only going it get the job you have been preparing for when your mother
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died. that's the only way to do the job. and so this kbi in addition of this weight of history, the burden of responsibility and a great overwhelming weight of grief, which incidentally does express in irritation is bearing down on him now. i think that actually in the circumstances, he has been really rather remarkable over the last few days in his visits to the nations that make up the united kingdom in the speeches that he's given and the addresses he's given to the public. in all of these moments when he's been on view, very public moments with intensely private thoughts behind that facade. >> charles, of course, by being in public his entire life, did not have the opportunity to
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shape his image as he came into the monarchy. like his mother, who was a very young woman when she became queen. charles has lived through turbulent times, messy public situations that he played out every day on the front pages of tabloids, not only britain, but across the world. and yet as he comes and takes this position, he's taking it -- i think it's fascinating, alongside a woman that he considers necessary for him to be able to carry out his duties. in a way that would best serve the british people. there's a real parallel there. prince phillip, obviously, would have his brushes withes
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controversy from time to time, but one of the things we have learned in the death of queen elizabeth ii is just how much she depended on her spouse to be able to carry through on the responsibilities of state. talk about the role camilla will play and how the british public will embrace her. >> it's certainly true the queen called in her stay and charles as king has made it clear he sees camilla the queen consort in exactly the same light. i think that it must be necessary to have somebody who can be with you at any of these events. the queen worked 50-hour weeks until she was 90 and then reduced her load to 40 hours a week. you have to have someone beside you who is helping to bear that strain and who was with you and knows you in the midst of that.
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i think it helps enormously that this couple has been married for 17 years, together much longer, and that he has somebody here who, by all accounts, is humorous and charming and charismatic and who will provide for him that extra pair of hands and that support that is so necessary for a role that involves so much burden and so much secrecy and privacy. >> let's go back to nbc's matt bradley. if you could talk a little bit about what we're seeing right now and what will play out in the next 30 minutes or so. >> reporter: what we're seeing now while everybody around me decided they got what they came for. they all decamped immediately once the funeral cortege passed by. or maybe they are going down to white hall.
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that's where that funeral cortege is headed. maybe they are headed down to parolment to see the end of that. you're hearing big ben chiming right now. by the way, big ben, which was just recently in the last couple years called the elizabeth clock tower after the late majesty, so this is another tribute to the queen. i believe that was at the time of her platinum jubilee just earlier this year. so what we're seeing in the next 30 minutes, the queen will be arriving in parliament square in front of the palace of westminster. and then her coffin will beer is moanously put into westminster hall. i was showing that distinction, the most ancient part of that famous complex. she will be lying in state there for more than four days. she will be lying in state for quite a long period of time
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right up until the morning of monday, where she has her state funeral across the street at westminster abbey. now it's going to get a massive state funeral, which will make this procession and everything we have seen today look minuscule by comparison. the pomp and ceremony we're expect og to see on monday and the logistical messaging we have been hearing from local officials in london have indicated this could be a very, very big event. nothing like what we're seeing today. but in the meantime, we're going to be seeing what london officials are expecting to be nearly half a million people filing past the queen's coffin as it lies in state inside westminster hall. all of them hoping to pay tribute to her. a similar feeling we got here today when i was speaking to people here. some of them americans who happen to be on vacation who were going to take this in, this historic event.
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there will be more people, more well wishers who will come from far and wide. some people drove hours this morning waking up at the crack of dawn. others will be doing the same. maybe waiting in line outside westminster for 30 hours. that's what british police are warning. all of them coming to see their queen. guys? >> mault matt bradley, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. willie, one of the queen's projects that was the most proud of was the strengthening post empire, the strengthening of the commonwealth. it remains massive. we earlier saw a package of people in australia and there's talk, questions of whether usa stral yans are going to leave the commonwealth and stop having the british royalty being their monarchs and polls showed 60% of
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australians agreed with the woman in that package which she said i'd like to keep the royals. but that is going to be debated in many of these countries. but it is the work, the lifelong work of queen elizabeth ii that i suspect in the end will lead most, at least initially, to stay in the commonwealth. >> you would think so. that goes for the people in the united kingdom as well. we're seeing some pictures of people liing the streets wiping tears from their eyes. we can understand why. the long legacy, from their lives that they parents and grandparents had some connection to her. now their children will as well. but tribe, if if you could, what we're about to see over of the next several days. matt bradley began to describe it. we're talking half a million people. they are telling people to prepare to wait for some 30 hours in line.
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lines of five miles long perhaps. what is this scene going to look like over the next five days? >> we are going see long lines. the queen's body will be in this closed coffin on view on a raised platform and people can line up to pay their respects in the ancient hall of westminster. and it's going to be open 24 hours a day. so we look out for lines that are miles long. and look out for people for waiting and hoping to see her for one last time. >> royal historian, thank you very much. real quickly, joe? >> finally, just looking this up. member countries of the commonwealth, for those who think it's mainly about great britain. 56 independent countries make up the commonwealth. and 2.5 billion citizens live in
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commonwealth countries. with more than 60% age 29 or under. 2.5 billion citizens still live under the british monarchy. >> the crowd applauding the coffin as she passed them by. and the coverage now continues with jose diaz-balart and chris jansing. they will pick up msnbc's live coverage right now. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 3:00 p.m. in london, where we're witnessing the coffin of queen elizabeth ii make its journey to historic westminster hall, where a ceremony is about to guinea minute. i'm jose diaz-balart alongside chris jansing in london. >> i can tell you i was witnessing the queen's last departure from buckingham palace. what an extraordinary sight. her casket draped in the royal standard now on a gun carriage
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