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and get healthier with golo. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. a cloudy day here in london as the work of funeral plans
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continues for monday. there is not a single moment without a line of mourners inside westminster hall. many of them, as you can see here, wiping away tears during their final moments with the queen. in sandringham, the late queen's winner retreat, the prince and princess of wales made their first outing with their new title and prince william told one woman yesterday's procession brought back terribly sad memories of his mother's funeral. i can understand that. back to what is happening in london later, with a look at the royals multimillion dollar fortune and how they make their money and what it pays for, and first, president biden is breathing easier today, even though he might be a bit tired. he averted a quote catastrophe, the words of his labor secretary, by getting rail companies and the workers union to come to a tentative deal. it happened at 4:30 this morning. that may be why he might be a little tired, two hours after
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the sun came up, after a long night of negotiations. the deal gives workers better medical leave and a wage increase, effective immediately. at least for now. >> this agreement can avert significant damage that any shutdown would have brought. our nation's rail system is the backbone of our supply chain. everything you rely on, and it's hard to realize this, but everything from clean water, to food, to gas, to every day, i mean liquefied natural gas, to everything, every good that you need seems to be on a real delivered to where it needs to go. this is a big win for america, and for both in my view. >> it is hard to overstate what a relief this is for democrats. the midterms are 53 days away. and the rail strike would have handed the republicans a campaign gift. especially with inflation back on the rise. as it stand, the white house feels like it does have a little wind at its back. new polling out today has joe
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biden's overall approval rating at 45%. that is a 9 point spike from july. the direction of the country, faith in the direction of the country is up 27% compared to 17% in july. it is not all good news. and we'll get to that in a second. joining me right now is nbc news senior whose correspondent kelly o'donnell, this is a tentative deal. why tentative? >> it does require the votes of members of these bargains units, and that they have built in what they're calling the cooling off period, so that they would not take any strike action. having a period of time, so that the workers involved can review the terms and then cast their votes by having an agreement not to go on strike with this tentative agreement in place. so it's not a done deal. but there is great optimism, when you have the unions representing the workers and the
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companies believing that they have reached appropriate terms that can take this forward. workers would see an increase in more than 20% in wages over the next five years. they have some more flexibility when it comes to getting sick days that would be paid, some security with their health care, and the companies around the rail system would have flexibility in hiring. so it would be the art of the compromise. and it came right to almost the 11th hour, and certainly with the economy in a fragile state now, we've seen how prices on so many kinds of things that american families buy have already been affected by inflation. this could have been the words you used, i believe, were catastrophic, it is a broad-based impact, had this gone to a strike. because rail service provides so many of the goods across all different kinds of american life. and so having this agreement is something we're seeing the white house readily wrap its arms
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around. they had the president personally involved. cabinet secretaries involved. not only trying to bring about a resolution, but also planning for contingencies if it didn't go their way. how would they address the crises, the kind of kind of horrible situations that might have fallen into place, had this not worked out. so often, when things are reverted, due get the sense of relief. in this case though, really trying to demonstrate to the american people what would have gone wrong, and trying to show that this was a case where they were able to put the work in, and to have a resolution. obviously, the president also has deep ties to labor. he tried to emphasize this year. and at the same time, reaching out to the management side of this, and saying they got a good deal as well. katy? >> kelly, it was the labor secretary, marty walsh who called it potentially catastrophic. jim, i want to ask you about what we averted here, in a little bit more detail.
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you wrote in your latest piece, the freight rail network operating over 140,000 miles of privately-owned track in every state except for hawaii. it moves a third of all american exports, and about 40% of long distance freight volume. the strike that was just avoided could have cost our economy about $2 billion a day, if it went ahead. i mean when marty walsh calls that catastrophic, i mean every sector of the economy, almost every single person would have felt it, if these rails stopped working. >> yes, it would have been one of the more visible ways you could disrupt the economy, both politically and also just in people's lives. i mean you would have had food shipments delayed. chemicals for clean water. treatment plants. they could have absolutely caused people having to boil water out of their taps. a cascade of possible problems, and it would have started right away. a lot of these products, are tight to market, in how fast they get there, and so you would
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have seen the effects very, very fast and the white house was very well aware of this. they have been growing increasingly alarmed in recent weeks over the prospect of a strike and the shortages of goods obviously on store shelves, that pushes the prices up for things that you can find that would have added to inflation, which is their number one political economic vulnerability right now. so for all of those reasons, the white house was very worried about this. and i think american consumers were rightly very worried about this. and if there is a vote to approve it, they dodged that bullet. >> it really started to come to a head in the past couple of days. is there anything that could, i hate to say, derail the negotiations, im? >> i mean the point here is, whether workers think they got a good enough deal or not. and it is going to come down i think not wages, which were agreed to a while back, in these negotiations, but these working continues, complaints that the rail workers have had, particularly when it comes to sick leave, and so it's very
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difficult, rail workers say for them to schedule a time just to go to the doctor, and what they were able to do here is get an extra day off per year, and the ability to take unpaid time off for medical appointments without penalty from their employer. whether that's enough or whether workers really want there to be fully paid time off, it is going to be the question. i think as they get around this deal, certainly the white house officials think that it is enough, and it is a good deal for workers and they're working on that line pretty hard. >> our reporting has president biden allegedly, or reportedly very upset at the idea that those workers were not getting the time off, and that was a sticking point for him. kelly, one more question for you. i want to go to nbc's cal perry, who is from the glendale metro amtrak station in california. tell me a little bit about what you're seeing there. >> so big time crisis averted when you look at how people commute in this country. take just l.a. for example.
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metro links three counties in california, 11,000 people a day ride metro link and the services would have been interrupted late tonight and into tomorrow. and those people, i know you're familiar with the area, would have ended up on l.a.'s highways, they would have had to spend money on gas and rent cars and things that just right now, no surprise to anybody, people haven't budgeted for. so life is sort of going about normal here today, which is at the relief of literally hundreds of thousands of commuters in this area. we had a chance to speak to some of them this morning. take a listen. >> i would be going home, and it would probably be a lot more expensive because i would have to figure out a car, rent a car, something like that and i hate to drive in l.a. >> not always got that lucky, but today, i guess. maybe i need to buy a lottery ticket. >> it makes a lot easier for us. we do have an option to work remotely if needed. >> i was honestly worried about getting to work. you said it ended? >> oh, wow.
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i'm glad. >> so relief, obviously, now nationally amtrak had put on hold some of the long distance routes, chicago to l.a. for example and reaching out to customers we're told today, trying to get the trains back on either today or tomorrow, katy. >> great for commuters. also great if you want to see the coastline there in california. the surf liner train is particularly enjoyable. kelly o'donnell, let's talk about poll numbers. good news fort president on his approve rating. and good news, the country saying, people saying this country is going in a better direction. but the economy is still not so great, in terms of polling, it shows just 29% think the economy is at a good state, compared to 71% who do not. how does the white house feel about this? >> well, certainly, the president talked about the fact that he believes that the underlying concerns that really form the economy are strong. that job strength is there, we have seen very low unemployment,
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and the rate, people's wages have gone up, of course that gets eaten up a bit by the inflation, and he talks about the fact that those core parts of what make the economy work are strong, that manufacturing is coming back to the u.s., so that's the argument that the white house would make. but many americans are feeling concerned about, is the recession somewhere in the horizon. will companies be doing some pulling back on hiring? those are the sort of concerns that feed into that number. and inflation overall is something that seems to be affecting the mindset of many americans, who don't see their paychecks going as far as they once did, and that sort of bleeds into the sentiment. at the same time, the president's approval rating, some of the other ratings around his performance, have improved. and they have had some legislative victory, and some other things to serve the political atmosphere that has given democrats a boost, winning special elections and so forth, and so this is a time with that
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50-plus days to the midterms, where democrats feel they are in a better position certainly than they were several months ago. and that's what they're trying to capitalize on. that's part of why you see the white house doing things like having an event around this rail issue today. to try to shine a light on when things go well, and they want to get credit for it. katy? >> employment numbers are very strong but it is hard not to get worried about layoffs when you have a lot of company heads talking about the future and down sizing. kelly, jim and cal, thank you. florida governor ron desantis is using people to make a political point, flew 50 migrants to martha's vineyards, declaring liberal states like massachusetts and the open border policy are better equipped to take care of migrants. it mirrors what other governors
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have been doing to bus those no washington and chicago and the migrants told officials they didn't know what was going on or where they were and spent the night at a church while officials and nonprofit workers hurried to help get things figured out for them. >> and still ahead, what the january 6th committee said about its refusal to work with d.o.j. and does it matter? what d.o.j. would get on its own with a key player in the white house. and the queen's passing, what happened to her wealth and what do british people think about the royals not paying taxes on all of that money. and vladimir putin and xi jingping meet face to face. what putin revealed about china's not entirely supportive position on russia's war in ukraine. i want to feel in control of my health, so i do what i can. what about screening for colon cancer? when caught in early stages it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers, even in early stages.
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says it will not work with d.o.j. the chairman bennie thompson told reporters this very no plans to cooperate and hand over the transcripts they spent more than a year gathering in their investigation into the insurrection. it may not matter to the justice dent investigators as cnn reports, former trump chief of staff mark meadows is complying with a d.o.j. subpoena. meadows would be the highest-ranking trump official to do so. he's declined to comment on that report to nbc news. at the same time, we're also waiting for judge cannon to decide on the d.o.j.'s request for access to classified documents. citing concerns about national
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security, the d.o.j. asked the judge to deliver her ruling today. joining me now from capitol hill is nbc's ali vitali also in washington, and nbc news homeland security correspondent julian answerley who covers the justice department and nbc legal analyst lisa ruben ax lot of stories to get to but let's start with the january 6th committee. what exactly was chairman bennie thompson saying. >> what chairman thompson has said in the past is they had engage with the justice department if they would cooperate and what the nature of the cooperation would be, whether it is transcripts or other things the committee has so far found and what our sources are telling us, the committee is not ready to release the findings to the d.o.j. until the hearings are over and lease if they end up cooperating at all. this all comes in the landscape of the things that you're seeing on the screen right now, the fact that this committee has held eight hearings so far, none has happened in a vac ule and
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the reason they're not cooperating with d.o.j. until at least until after the hearing were over, is that the d.o.j. is able to see the findings of what they had publicly. nothing here is happening in a vacuum. on the other side of this, though, it could be helpful to the department of justice as they move forward, on their myriad investigations, and grand juries, to have the information that the january 6th committee has. so we'll be asking more members about this as the day goes on. but there is this sense at this point that they are going to take doing their investigation separately, d.o.j. doing their investigation separately, and right now, there's not going to be cooperation. >> lisa, why would the panel not want to cooperate with the d.o.j.? what sort of underlying issues are there that might make them hesitant to share anything. >> i think there's one legal thing and one political. let's start with the legal. the reason you wouldn't provide it legally is because the january 6th committee is still engaged in a number of litigations where they're trying to get their hands on additional pieces of evidence.
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and when they do that, they're fighting against people like john eastman who are saying you're trying to usurp the law enforcement function of the department of justice, to which the house is quite recently saying no, we have a legislative purpose here, it is fact finding to inform further legislation. if they cooperate with the department of justice, they're undermining their own fact finding efforts. last night they told a judge in california they want all 600 new emails from john eastman to complete their investigation and to be able to write their report. now, on to the political. this committee has repeatedly said to the american people we are just trying to get to the bottom of this. we want to know the facts. and they built some goodwill with people who originally didn't necessarily buy the narrative that donald trump and higher up in the tramp campaign and in the trump white house were directly involved in the planning and execution of january 6th. they don't want to squander that goodwill but cooperate welcome the department of justice and
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appearing for the president leading up to the election. >> let's talk about the ruling we're expecting to hear from judge cannon today, julia what can you tell us about that. >> what the justice department has asked judge cannon to rule on by today, or they say they want to move it to the 11th circuit, they say that they have a problem with her order where she granted the special master and said that in natural conjunction with that appointment, they should not be able to continue their review of the seized material. they are not appealing her order for a special master. in fact, she could appoint a special master any day now. but they say that they need to be in a position where they can continue to review these documents, because it's not a matter of, you know, leaving home with an overdue library book or something, but this is a matter of national security, and they can't just put pause on this investigation when they're in the middle of cultivating witnesses, of doing the deep investigation and that even
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though judge cannon did allow the intelligence community to continue their assessment to see what kind of damage may have been done by trump taking these documents to the nation's intelligence, they need to be able to continue their investigation at that same time. so we'll see what judge cannon might do. but if we don't get something today, we might see an appeal soon from the justice department, because they are very clear that their investigation needs to proceed without any halt. >> so lisa, this is time sensitive. the justice department is trying to move this on quickly. if they do end up appealing and going to the 11th circuit, talk to me about the timing. >> you know, the timing is sort of anyone's guess. the 11th circuit and all circuits have rules for one brief filed, but the briefing here could be expedited, particularly given d.o.j. representation. that's an urgent matter of national security. and the other thing, that we don't know is the scope of the department of justice's appeal. right now, they've asked judge
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cannon for a partial stay of her ruling. so far, the facts of 103 classified documents. but if they seek an appeal to the 11th circuit, they might say they don't want a special master at all, there is no justification for it legally, and the special master should never be appointed in the first place. so there's a little bit of a race between judge cannon and the circuit to see who can rule first. but i certainly expect that the department of justice to ask the 11th circuit, not only for a stay of judge cannon's ruling but to overturn it if they don't hear from her today in a manner that they like. >> stay with us. because there's another story that we want to turn to about donald trump's legal troubles, and this has to do with the civil case in new york, that the attorney general, letitia james has brought, or that she might bring, she has rejected donald trump's legal team proposals for a settlement. what does that mean? what will it mean for the
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investigation? and what will it mean for donald trump or maybe somebody else in his family or company? >> well, look, she has said publicly that she doesn't want to exercise the corporate nuclear option, which would be shutting down the trump organization completely. she wants something short of that. but she wants real consequences for the trump organization, and any individuals that were involved in the overvaluation of properties in ways that gave donald trump either improper tax benefits, or access to things like loans and insurance policies, and terms more favorable than those bank and insurance companies otherwise would have provided him. the fact that she's rejecting his settlement offer is, it puts him in a hard place, as all of the walls are closing in on him with respect to various investigations. you know that allen weisselberg has already pled guilty, but the trump organization itself starts the criminal trial on october 24th here in new york.
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>> we have the january 6th committee, the classified documents case, and the civil case, a lot to get to, ladies, thank you for keeping it all straight for us. i appreciate it. and vladimir putin needs xi jingping, but does xi jingping want to take that risk? what we learned from their face to face. first up though, what happens to the queen's estimated $28 million now that she's passed? y . we spent our whole pension but couldn't keep up. so my husband just stopped taking his medicine. and then he had a stroke. i can't get back what i lost, but thanks to aarp, a new law will protect seniors with a cap on their prescription costs. that could have changed everything for us. i'm just grateful that no one will have to face the terrible choices that we did it's the all-new subway series menu.
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normal. the house of windsor does not disclose its finances. the queen's net worth was estimated to be between 21 and $28 billion though. and it is an impressive portfolio of property, land, jewels and other investments, that includes a chunk of central london. however neither king charles ort rest of the royal family will have to pay any inheritance tax on any assets that are passed down from queen elizabeth. not to mention the assets king charles has now passed down to prince william. joining me now, lecture and media at lancaster university and author of running the family firm, laura clancy, and news week chief royal correspondent and co-host of the royal report podcast, jack royston. laura, i think when you talk about an estate worth $28 billion, that is eye-popping, you have writ a whole book about the monarchy and how it makes its money and how it uses its
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money and how it conceals its money, i'm hoping you can give us a primer on it quickly. >> a primer on it, quite a bit, and looking at the official activities of the royal family, it comes from the estate, paying to the monarchy, and there is also the london property and the duke and duchess of cornwall, and the duke of wales. and personal wealth included. >> sow said it's basically a smoke screen to hide inequality. how does that work? >> so i think it is really interesting in the report, you will see, in the annual finance documents, they talk about the brand, and they will say, you know, this amount of money is what we have, this is what we bought, and this amount to, i think it was one pound 29 per
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person in the u.k. last year, and that doesn't account for security costs, and that is paid for separately and it doesn't account for things like the duke of cornwall, paid for by them, and it doesn't account for individual wealth. >> so $17 billion it is shifting, and it is comes, foreign terms to an american audience but jack, hopefully you can explain them to us, the duchy of lancastor, the zuchy of cornwall as laura was mentioning and the sovereign grant. can you help us understand what each of these things are and how they work. >> yes, there is a really big difference between the wealth and the estates. >> and it is not really the queen's, it is a public asset, it is the king's now, it has to have a legal owner, and the legal owner is technically the king and all of the profit goes to the treasury and a percentage
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of them, currently right about 25% gets paid back to the royal family as public funding. and then you have the duchy of cornwall and the duchy of lan castor, $1.2 billion of cornwall, and prince william, the prince of wales, and the duchy of lancastor is the sovereign. and with the inheritance estates, you have the two estates to fund the official function of the monarchy, and i think one simple solution about this debate about the taxes, if you look at those two estates and look at public ownership, and then simply paid the monarchy one single lump sum as a budget out of government money and that's their government funding and it is open and transparent and it is accountable, that would be one way to solve that side of this issue. but there still remains the question of what happens to their private wealth. a lot of which is tied up in
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historic buildings, like balmoral castle, and the estate of sandringham and other tied up in jewel and paying off the inheritance tax bill. i mean in terms of those, you know, absolutely mind bending figures, you know, those aren't where we actually do not have a concrete idea of how much money the queen did have in her private funds. because the royal wills are never made public. so all we can really do is guess. but clearly, they do have a significant amount of money, and that inheritance tax bill would have been gar gan wan. >> and they don't have to report their income and they don't have to report their wealth and they don't have to pay inheritance tax, and is there any talk, as charles talks about paring down the monarchy and keeping it popular with the public and there different opinions of the monarchy, especially when you go between ages, you know, the
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younger generations don't feel as entitled to their lives, i'm talking in broad generalizations as the older generation. is there talk about charles, maybe selling off some estates or gift some estate, and pare down the staff? is there talk about maybe going back to that 1993 decision, and saying this isn't really fair, we could help the country out a lot, if we paid inheritance tax. >> within the royal family, there is absolutely no talk about that whatsoever. prince charles, or king charles does want to slim down the monarchy but he does not mean the building or the wealth and what he means it looks bad to have too plane royals on buckingham palace each year, and looking at the monarchy, so he is really not about tackling this issue at all this. issue is one that is important, predominantly with the public, and usually the kind of sort of
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taxpayers alliance, the type of people who really care a lot about how the government spends public money, pays very little attention to how the royal family spends public money and they do go to the public funding each year, it is, you know, it is almost one of those things that it is very, very expensive, they transfer a lot of trains, the royal train is 6,000 pounds, to take to scotland so there are some big bills that could be taken out of public funding that could be looked at if you wanted to. i don't think there is a luge will in the royal family to tackle the money side of slimming down. >> and i think it is also important to note that this country is in a bit of an economic crisis and i was talking to somebody, his energy bill was 80 pounds, and the last energy bill for july and august, it was 800 pounds.
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and that's how much it has up in this country and i thought that was absolutely stunning. it doesn't, you know, you think this would be a bigger issue when it comes to the inheritance, and maybe it will bubble up. what i will say is we spent a lot of time today trying to talk to people about how they feel about it, and we have yet, we are hard pressed to find anybody who was really angry about it. we'll see what happens in the future. laura and jack, thank you very much. and vladimir putin and xi jingping, next, they met for the first time since russia invaded ukraine. what putin revealed about china's feelings towards his war. and plus, what it means to identify as latino is changing. we have a report on the growth and diversity, and one of the most politically powerful groups in the united states. >> a lot of people still get surprised when you hear me speak spanish, but there's so many inter-racial, you know, everywhere, especially here in new york city, right? zzzquil s you sleep better
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chinese president xi jingping and russian president vladimir putin met today in uzbekistan, it was their first face to face since vladimir putin started his war in ukraine. the summit comes as russia is losing ground in the battlefield there, which makes its relationship with china that much more significant. joining me now from beijing is nbc news asia correspondent janis mackey frayer. help us understand what happened and what vladimir putin revealed about how china is not entirely supportive of the war in ukraine. what did he say? >> well, both xi jingping and vladimir putin are at odds with the west, they're both facing isolation, but arguably, putin has more at stake with this meeting. remember, these two men are friends. they've met dozens of times. the last time they did, they started a partnership with no limits. >> china has never publicly condemned russia for the war in
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ukraine and hasn't publicly supported it either. so when putin conceded that china had questions and concerns about russia's war in ukraine, it was a very rare admission that beijing is not going to alter its tack on support for russia, nor is it going to offer the sort of material support that russia is looking for right now, as it is losing ground in ukraine. putin was full of praise for his old friend. he commended china's balanced position. xi jingping didn't say much. he spoke in generalizations. the chinese read-out was very detached and formal. china has been buying russian oil and gas. it has been amplifying russian propaganda here and offering diplomatic backing, but beijing has been very cautious, and will continue to be cautious, to avoid doing anything that might trigger secondary sanctions, and
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risk the economy here. he is also conscious of timing a month away from the communist party congress when he will have an unprecedented third term in power and he was looking to shore up his foreign policy credentials and to be able to stand with a powerful ally that has the same sort of view of the west, and it sends a message in a way to the united states of crossing regional red lines here, specifically with taiwan. >> janis mackey frayer, thank you very much. let's bring in former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfall, an msnbc international affairs analyst. ambassador, good to see you. ned price at the state department says knockingly vapz openly admitted that xi jingping has concerns about ukraine. help us understand how the united states is perceiving those comments. beyond shocking.
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>> well, i think that is right, personally, as an analyst of this relationship, he didn't have to say that, putin could have avoided saying that, he could have kept to general ties, but he chose to do so, i think it does reflect that xi jingping is not happy with his friend or partner or ally, or however you want to describe him. nobody likes losers and he is losing right now in ukraine. and if you look at the chinese readout as you were talking about, he didn't use the word ukraine. xi jingping did not use the word ukraine to talk about their bilateral meeting. so compare this summit, this cooperation organization, of the summit of autocrats and how tepid the support is for vladimir putin, compared to what nato says, and their support for ukraine, it's quite a contrast. >> what's the position that china is in right now? obviously, they both want to push back against the west. and they do have a long-term relationship. but where does china see itself? what risk does china see in
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supporting vladimir putin openly? >> so both putin and xi jingping are allies or parter ins rhetorically when it comes to thwarting the liberal international order, right? anchored by the united states. but putin wants to destroy it. xi jingping just wants to modify it. remember, that liberal international order, globalization, trade, china benefits from that. so he doesn't want to be outside of it. he doesn't want to break it down. and he most certainly doesn't want to be sanctioned by countries like the united states. it is striking, he's not providing technological equipment to russia. he's not providing economic assistance. he's not even providing ammunition. think about pute-to go to the north koreans to get new ammunition, the chinese wouldn't provide it, so he has one foot against us, but he also wants to keep cooperating with the west. >> ukraine is pushing back
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against russia and taking more land, and there is hope that maybe they could claim victory. what sort of wall does that push vladimir putin up against? what is the concern about how he might react? >> first, i am just amazed at the bravery and the success of ukrainian armed forces. they have a path to victory. i'm deeply impressed that president zelenskyy chose to go to those places that they just liberated. that was a badass move by president zelenskyy. putin is the exact opposite. he looks like he is on the rope, the troops are in disarray and moscow is looking at who is at fault for the debacle. he is, you know, it is way too early to say that this war is over any time soon. this has been a great several days for the ukrainian armed forces. >> ambassador, using plain
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mississippi governor rieves says clean water has been restored to the city of jackson. in a press conference moments ago, the boil water advisory was lifted for all households relying on the city's system. if it is true, it will be welcome news for the 163,000 residents there who have been waiting for the all clear, with some of them seeing, we will show it to you here, this dark brown liquid and looks sludgy coming from the taps. can you imagine that in recent days. but the governor added he cannot promise the system will not fail again in the future. that certainly would not be welcome news. today marks the start of the hispanic heritage month, new data assembled by nbc news digital tells us the latino commune is getting bigger and more, community is getting bigger and more diverse, almost
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62 million people consider themselves hispanic. morgan joins me now. explain to us the diversity of opinion, and the experience, and what folks are telling you. >> yes, diversity in almost every facet there, katy, we already know people who identify as hispanics make up more than half of the nation's population growth and that is just in the last decade, and also nearly 20% of the total u.s. population, but the thing is, even while all that growth was happening, their there are even bigger changes in how latinos see themselves. changes that could really shape the country for years to come. take a look. >> here, in manhattan, the upper west side, the owner richard land lives in two worlds. >> what do we have here? what is this? >> this is poke fried rice. >> his father a chinese immigrant started the restaurant in the 1980s, after living in
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south america where he met richard's mother, a native peruvian. >> what does it mean to latino? >> everything, it is my life. it is my heritage. a lot of people still get surprised when you hear me speak spanish. but there's so many inter-racial, you know -- everywhere, especially here in new york city, right? >> i'm latino and very proud of it. >> it's not just here, based on the latest u.s. census, the latino community has grown dramatically and more diverse than ever. nationwide, the number of hispanics or latinos reporting more than one race has skyrocketed in the last ten years. from 3 million to over 20 million. while the numbers to identify as only white have dropped by nearly half. >> for the work that focuses on culture and identity, it's a change they've seen firsthand. >> over the last ten, and even five years, i think there has been a greater conversation around the terminology that we
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use, so latino, latina, latinx, a more visible conversation and people are really pushing back and honing in on what we mean when we are using these terms. so what has changed? first, social media. where a wave of younger generation are looking at their identity and the journey along the way. >> yeah, i look asian but i'm mexican. you have to deal with it. >> secondly, language. the share of u.s. born hispanics who speak spanish at home has declined by nearly 10 percentage points in the last four decades, with second and third generations less likely tone courage their children to speak the language. >> the comedian john ro sals, half white and half hispanic see it in their own life. >> my family would speak spang lish and my dad said he would teach me spanish growing up and
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obviously he never did and we tell me things and i would catch up on it, so i think it is starting to become more of a normal thing. >> so whether it's latino, hispanic or latinx, the flavor of the culture is reaching everyone. >> this is chicken. >> chicken, yes. >> it shouldn't be surprising to anyone anymore. everyone is interracial. everyone is mixed. >> it is time people caught on. >> it is time people caught on. >> there were a couple of other fascinating data points our nbc data film found, and they reached to companies like 23 and me to get a sense the people digging into their heritage, and 50% were latino, and an estimated 5 million people of latino ancestry who do not self-identify as latino, and that's according to pew research, so for example, politicians, if they're trying to reach out to latino voters, it is very important that they listen and understand the terms that latinos are using for
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we are coming on the air from washington with new developments in the multiple investigations into the january 6th insurrection. with our team on capitol hill, confirming that the house committee looking into the riot will not cooperate with the separate d.o.j. investigation into the attack. that is the reason for the public hearings and maybe not even then, we got our team just coming out of an interview with the committee chairman, we're going to bring that to you live and tell you what he said. plus, it is all coming as we look for a ruling in florida, on whether a judge will put a hold on part of her own decision over the mar-a-lago search. that call could come any minute. also this hour, the federal push to protect same-sex marriage, it's going to have to wait. senators negotiating the bill

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