we are coming on the air from washington with new developments in the multiple investigations into the january 6th insurrection. with our team on capitol hill, confirming that the house committee looking into the riot will not cooperate with the separate d.o.j. investigation into the attack. that is the reason for the public hearings and maybe not even then, we got our team just coming out of an interview with the committee chairman, we're going to bring that to you live and tell you what he said. plus, it is all coming as we look for a ruling in florida, on whether a judge will put a hold on part of her own decision over the mar-a-lago search. that call could come any minute. also this hour, the federal push to protect same-sex marriage, it's going to have to wait. senators negotiating the bill

saying just within the last hour, a vote won't happen until after the midterms. so what is the holdup. new reaction coming in. and developing news for the white house, with officials tally confirming president biden will meet with the families of britty griner and paul whelan, the two dedaned in russia. a lot to get to on this thursday afternoon. i'm hallie jackson. glad to be with you in washington. we start with the new developments in the january 6th investigations, plural. the capitol hill correspondent ali vitali, ryan riley and former u.s. attorney and nbc legal analyst before bra mcquade. let me start with you, and chair benny compton was kind of chatty today. >> he was chatty toops today and what i was asking about is the reporting in the last few hours that the january 6th committee at least for now will not be cooperating, sends can its transcripts and its findings to the department of justice, at least until they're done with

the public phase of their hearings. when i asked chairman thompson about this, his response was just simply that this is the committee that is still actively working, and they have long said that they have been on parallel tracks with the d.o.j. is doing and what they're doing, and of course the committee's work is being done much more in the public eye, and that's one of the reasons that our sources tell us there is a certain comfortability with not sharing with the d.o.j. at this point, because none of the commit's investigations at this point have been done in a vacuum. they've done multiple public hearings. they will still do another one. the chairman just reiterated to me that it is likely to going to be september 28th. after that in october, there will be some kind of a midterm report. and then at the end of the year, they will issue their final report. one of the key things though that is facing the committee is what the path forward looks like. they are still actively talking, they had a meeting earlier in the week, and then chairman thompson said they will meet virtually over zoom tomorrow to talk about some of the key questions that are still facing this committee. specifically, what this next hearing is going to focus on,

but even more broadly than that, multiple republican lawmakers who have ignored their subpoenas so far, i asked chairman thompson what the committee was hoping to do to enforce that piece, and he said they still have the end of the year to figure out what enforcement looks like. but there is still the open question of if they try to talk to someone like former president donald trump, or his former vice president, mike pence, we know that there have been conversations with pence's legal team, and they have not had those conversations with anyone on the trump legal team, but of course, that might make a little bit of sense when we know the ways that are different, that pence and trump have both talked about the committee. so a lot of questions facing the chairman, facing the committee, as they start re-entering this public phase again, and especially in terms of what it means for the department of justice, which in the short term, ali, sounds like not much. >> ali, thank you forthat. barbara, let me turn to you on what ali is reporting and what the team on the hill is reporting. why would the committee withhold evidence from the d.o.j. and why would they not want to cooperate

right awa from a legal perspective, help us understand that legal question. >> and i really don't flow, and hopefully more than a parochial interest that they want nobody to steal their thunder, but i couldn't imagine the d.o.j. would get a lot of help from the transcripts and cooperating, it would be important to see if they made a prior inconsistent statement about the story did they use a person as a cooperator. i think one potential argument to give them the benefit of the doubt may be they don't want to be perceived as carrying the justice department's water. there has been an argument that this investigation is not for a proper legislative purpose, that they are acting out of an executive purpose conducting an investigation and i suppose the extent that they share materials with justice department, it open them to the argument. and i think if the justice department wanted to, it could be a subpoena, and it would be simpler and swifter to turn them

over at some point and i hope they will at this point. >> there is breaking news as it relates to january 6th, a rioter who people might remember for wearing a camp auschwitz sweatshirt with the word staff when he stormed the capitol was just sentenced in washington, d.c. and i mention that sweatshirt because it came up in court, right? >> it did indeed. it is a tricky area because it is the first amendment, you have the right to wear an offensive t-shirt like that but the judge did say in this case, it helps to illustrate the intent, and so this individual, robert packer, did not actually say anything, make any comments publicly before the court, and basically did not explain why he was wearing that shirt and left it up to his lawyer to muddle around that and not give a clear explanation. and that didn't fly so well with the judge, and he didn't really see a full throated apology necessarily coming from packer and it was also a secondhand thing that they got from his sister and the representations of his lawyer, but you know, there was this other image that

did cot um in court that nbc news -- did come up in court that nbc news had surfaced last night that showed packer what was underneath that sweatshirt and earlier in the day when he was with that sister, closer to donald trump's speech, wearing an ss shirt, that was directly supportive of the nazis, so there are two layers of pro-nazi materials that he was wearing that day. and presumably walked into the capitol with that underneath, underneath that camp auschwitz outer sweatshirt that he wore. >> 75 days, yes? >> that's right. yes, and actually steven ayers, the justice department, just recommended 60 days for him, steven ayers was the individual who testified before the january 6th committee back in july, he was the rioter speaking of picking up what barbara said in terms of inconsistent statements shall the justice department represents in their filing that the story that he told to the january 6th committee is inconsistent with what he told, what he said the story he agreed

to, in his plea agreement, because in his plea agreement, he says he was only there for ten minutes but based on the story he told on capitol hill, he was there for much longer than that. so that's going to be an issue for him potentially when he gets sentenced next week. >> really quick before i let you go, ali, can you talk about what we heard from congresswoman zoe lofgren talking about the records the committee got from the secret service. here is what she said. >> some of the evidence that has been sent over is not just text messages, but there's emails, there's radio traffic, there's teams meetings, there's a whole variety of things. >> you reported more on this as well, ali. >> yes, there is a whole variety of things that the committee has gotten, according to our sources, and according to members who have talked about it publicly. they do have greater insight into communications on january 6th, from the secret service.

but when chairman thompson and others talk about having the texts, they're not talking about the text messages that i think most of us are most interested in, which is specific text messages from specific individuals inside the secret service from january 5th and 6th. those in some cases, according to lofgren and others may actually be unrecover cable. there was some thinking that they could get them back, that they could be recreated, in fact that does not seem to be the case. it's one of the things that we were just talking with the chairman about, so it might end up being that even though they do have greater insight on, this they don't have the text messages, properly capital, that we are looking for, when we were talking about the text messages that are missing. >> ali vitali, ryan riley for your reporting thank you. barbara mcquade thank you for your analysis as always. senate negotiators on capitol hill are making a big announcement before we were coming on the air about a bill to protect the right to same-sex marriage saying there will not be a vote on this, it won't be next week, as a lot of people

thought, it would be after the midterms. coming up in a few hours after we learned that the bipartisan group of senators, seemed ready to release the text of the bill, after hashing out a religious liberty amendment to try to get more republican support. i want to bring in nbc news senior national political reporter. help us understand why they did this, right, why they pushed it, why they're not moving forward next week, and is it more likely to pass after the midterms than before? >> this is congress doing what it is often does, pumping an issue, try, punting an issue, trying to buy themselves more time and you can count on a unified democratic caucus, a votes there, but on the republican side, three or four votes and nowhere close to ten votes needed to break a filibuster and pass this bill and the calculation that democrats are making is that they would rather get the bill passed and signed into law, than to use this as a political cudgel, to try to bludgeon republicans with it in the midterm elections.

if they vote now, the fear among democrats is a number of republicans aren't ready and making changes and an amendment to the bill and ease the religious freedom, and if they vote now, some republicans could be locked into the no votes and they might not be able to get the path at all. the believe around tammy baldwin, the wisconsin democrat, who is leading this effort, is that more time is what they need, to make sure republicans have that political space they need to vote for it. senator rob portman, a republican co-sponsor of the bill, suggests that waiting would take the political sting out of the vote before the midterm elections, given that a lot of these republicans would be going against what their conservative base wants of the final thing, hallie, is that the nightmare scenario for democrats, they get neither. they get neither the political issue to get in the election and if they wait until after, that republicans are still not guaranteed to vote yes, that they can vote the political issue and they could potentially lose a victory. so it would be a gamble either way. but there is the path led by tammy baldwin, the democrats have chosen to take.

>> thank you. to the white house now, where officials there are confirming this afternoon that two families of americans detainees in russia will finally get to meet with president biden tomorrow. relatives wnba star brittney griner around former marine paul whelan set to be in dc, and griner is currently appearing a nine year sentence on charges she brought cannabis oil into russia and whelan was charged on spying charges, with a nine to 16 year sentence. the state department currently classifies both americans as wrongly detained. i want to bring in nbc news chief white house correspondent kristen welker and it feels this meeting has been a long time coming. >> it sure has been, particularly from the perspective of the families who feel as though there is not enough urgency to bring their loved ones home. it is two separate meetings that take place tomorrow here at the white house. and the white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked about this repeatedly, what will come of it, what is the significance of this meeting, these meetings i should

say. here is what she had to say, take a listen. >> one of the reasons he is meeting with the families is that he wanted to let them know that they remain front of mind, and that his team is working on this every day. making sure that brittany and paul return home safely. one family member was already scheduled to be in town, and the president wanted to meet with both of the families on the same day. >> now, what is notable, hallie, what she did not say, was that there was some type of deal that is actually being accepted on the part of russia. in fact, she made a point of saying this meeting does not signify that there has been some significant development on that front. now, we know that the united states has put an offer on the table to bring the two americans home, in exchange for an arms dealer in russia, but so far, there hasn't been any real movement on that front. there are also other things to

report, that the new mexico governor bill richardson in moscow trying to engage in talks. i pressed karine jean-pierre on that point and if the white house had gotten any heads up and if they approved of him being there and she would neither confirm or deny that he was there but did say they are in touch. so there a lot of moving parts here, halle and obviously all eyes will be on those two meetings tomorrow. >> point of clarification quickly, it will be two separate meetings, so it's not as if both families will be in the same room at the same time. and that seemed interesting, right, because both families will obviously want to know what the president is doing specifically for them. >> absolutely. and both families are coming at this from the same perspective. they want to keep the pressure on. they want their loved ones home. >> kristen welker live for us on the white house north lawn, thank you. coming up, any minute, president biden set to talk about violence fueled by hate in this country. you will see that speech live when it happens about 15 minutes from now.

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today is the deadline day for the judge in the marginal seized records case, whether or not to put a hold on her order, that stops investigators from looking into the 100-plus classified documents that of course investigators found at the facility, the home, the resort that you're looking at now, mar-a-lago. julia, let's be clear, the judge

is not bound by this, right? we call it a deadline, but it's not like there is any penalty if she doesn't meet this deadline, she doesn't have to make a decision today or else, so talk about some of the potential outcomes here. >> that's right, justices are the ones to give deadlines and not the ones beholden to them. but in this case the justice department said if she did not make a dition by the end of midnight -- a decision by the end of midnight of today, they would appeal to the 11th circuit to try to get a judge to say that they can have in fact a partial stay on her order. the order that is the one that she put in last week granting a special master, in which she says in natural conjunction with that appointment, meaning the special master, that all of the materials that were seized, that the government should seize their review of those materials. the justice department says that is a major hindrance to their investigation, which is a matter of national security. so they're asking for a partial stay. they're not asking her to stay her ruling on a special master, even though they didn't want up

with, they're now going ahead and accepting that that might be the case, but they want to be able to continue to review the materials that are in their possession. now gist cannon did make a -- now judge cannon did make a special carve-out for the director of national intelligence to continue to do their damage assessment to see what if any u.s. intelligence assets might have been damaged as a result of the documents leaving the areas that they should have been kept, and taken to mar-a-lago, and that can continue, but she said that the justice department needed to stop its review and they wanted to put a hold on that so they can continue reviewing these documents because they say it is so vitally important. and if they don't hear from judge cannon today, they might soon see an appeal to the 11th circuit. >> thank you for the update. i know you'll bring us any news if we get it in the next 40 minutes or so. appreciate it. also, just in, georgia's criminal investigation into the push to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 election in that state, may lead to prison

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men are at odds with the west, and that's what keeps them strategically aligned. but arguably, vladimir putin has far more at stake, with this meeting, because he has so few places to turn right now, beyond his friend in china. xi jingping and vladimir putin have a personal relationship. they've met dozens of times, they declared that partnership without limits. since the invasion, china has not publicly condemned the war, nor has it publicly backed it. and so when putin conceded that he was aware that china has questions and concerns about the russian war, that was a very rare admission, that beijing is not likely to change its tact on russia's war, nor is it likely to offer russia the sort of material support or tactical support that it needs right now, as it is losing ground in ukraine. putin was pull of praise for who

he called his old friend, where as xi jingping was far more reserved, spoke in generalizations, and the other thing, i don't think we should overlook, to an extent xi jingping was reading the room, he's at a chinese-backed summit, in central asia, with leaders from post-soviet nations, who are very nervous about bolstering russian power. so xi jingping not wanting to appear to be endorsing russia too much, and not wanting to stabilize the environment there. >> xi's first trip out of china, and confirmed for another term, as president, right? >> a possible third term, about a month away from the communist party congress, so this was seen also as an opportunity for xi jingping to shore up his foreign policy credentials and to be seen as re-emerging as a global

statesman. it's actually strange that he's traveling this close to the congress. during the last congress in 2017, he went three months witheaving the country before this very important political meeting, but again, so much of how xi jingping is handling is about being cautious, not wanting to appear to back russia too much, that might trigger secondary sanctions against china, at a time when the economy is wobbly under covid restrictions and people are looking for some way out. >> janis mackey frayer live for us in beijing, good to see you, thank you for that reporting. coming up next, here on the show, senate candidate john fetterman opening up more and more about list health and one of the most candid interviews yet since his stroke. plus our team is on the road with hbcus across the state and

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right now, an important update in the ongoing water crisis down in jackson, mississippi. the governor of the state says clean water is back in the city for now. but it may not last. watch. >> we can now announce that we have restored clean water to the city of jackson. as of today, we can state that the boil water advisory can be lifted for all those who rely on jackson's water system. >> i want to bring in nbc news correspondent who is following this for us. what does this mean on a practical level for people in jackson? >> good to see you. so on a practical level, it technically means residents can drink their water safely, it is no longer nonpotable. they do not need to boil it. that said, ways just in jackson, mississippi, and the residents are not confident in their water supply, understandably. this is not the first time jackson has had unsafe water. back in 2020, the epa

investigated, or excuse me, probed the same water plant, and so there is a lot of hesitancy, not a lot of confidence in the water system and the government. but right now, governor tate reeves says you can drink the water. that said, they will continue to monitor. it we also heard from the city's mayor earlier this week, he said if they have two straight days of clean sampling, they can do it. so we will see if this sustains. >> thank you for that update. an important one from down in mississippi. appreciate it. we want to take you now to the white house now, where president biden is speaking about his plan to fight violence fueled by hate. let's listen in. >> to help us stand united. as she did. and that's why so many of you have done, what you have done for so long in your own way as survivors, hate-filled violence, family victims, allies, and advocates, mayors, community leaders, members of congress, your presence is a testament to

the truth that we must and we can come together regardless of our background, our beliefs, and we have to stand united against hate-filled violence. it's real. you know better than anyone. an attack on one group of us is literally an attack on all of us. i certainly appreciate you joining this first of its kind summit held near in the white house and i want to thank ana navarro and lisa ling for participating and thank the civil rights organizations that called for such a summit, after the evil came to buffalo four months ago, the national urban league, the anti-defamation league, the asian advancing justice, and league of latin america citizens, the national action network. jill and i, she's teaching, that's why she's not here, traveled to buffalo to grieve with families and to deliver a pledge from deep in our nation's

soul. and in america, evil will not win. it will not prevail. [ applause ] >> and white supremacists will not have the last word. and this venom and violence cannot be the story of our time. we convene this summit to make clear what the story of our time must be. it has to be a story in which each and every one of us has a vital role to play, a story, a story with this message from the white house. united. united. united we stand. look, i decided to run for president as susan knows, after sharlsville. literally, not figuratively. i had no intense of running. i give you my word. i was teaching and i thought that was the best thing for me to do. as chris knows, my colleague

from delaware. but charlottesville changed everything. because i believed our inventory is to unite as one nation, one america. and when those folks came out of that field, carrying torches, in the united states of america, carrying torches, chanting the same anti-semitic bile that was channed in germany in the early '30s, accompanied by white supremacists, holding nazi flags, i thought to myself, my god, this is the united states of america, how could it happen? i really mean it. and my friends in the movement, the civil rights movement, i got involved in politics because of civil rights as a kid. but the idea, the idea that in the first quarter of the 20th

century, that people come out carrying torches, nazi flags and banners, accompanied by white supremacists, david dukes and his crowd. and an innocent young woman was killed. when the last guy was asked what do you think, he said there were fine people on both sides. look, folks, there are core values that should bring us together as americans. one of them is standing together against hate, racism, bigotry, and violence that have long haunted and plagued our nation. another core value is standing united for the enduring source

of our strength is the yours truly -- idea of america. every other nation is based on ethnicity, geography. we hold these truth to be self-evident, we've never lived up to that, we never before walked away from it. we never walked away from it. that's why it's so important what you're doing. it's so important that we keep hollering. so important for people to know that's not who we are. you know, i do a lot of foreign travel in my business. [ laughter ] i know virtually every head of state.

when i went to the first g-7 meeting in england, of the largest democracies of the world, i sat down and i said, you know, you heard me say this before, rev, america is back. you know what these leaders said around a small table with no press there? for how long? for how long? a combination of january the 6th, what they saw in charlottesville, not america. not who we are. the idea of america is that it guarantees everyone, everyone is treated with dignity and equality, an idea that ensures an inclusive, multiracial

democracy, an idea we give no safe harbor, none, to hate. we've never, as i said, fully lived up to the idea. we've never walked away from it before. look, i'm not naive. kamala and i traveled to atlanta during the pandemic, too many people fearful just walking the streets in america. jewish high holidays approach, families will gather for a reflection under the shadow of a rise in anti-semitism just like the tree of life in pittsburgh, the deadliest act of anti-semitism in our history. in idaho they were unleashing violence before they reached a pride celebration a threat following a record year of violence against transgender americans. today, with the fall semester

starting, we're joined by president of the historic black college and university who will be able to focus on providing the best experience possible for those students. but instead, they're having to worry about more bomb threats against their institutions. too often native americans, disabled americans face harassment, discrimination, and violence and victimization. unfortunately, such hate-fueled violence and threats are not new to america. there's a through line of hate for massacres of indigenous people to the original sin of slavery, the terror of the klan, immigration, violence against the irish, italians, chinese, mexicans, so many of those related to our history. there's a through line of violence against religious groups, anti-semitic, anti-catholic, anti-mormon,

anti-muslim, anti-hindu, anti-sikh. look, folks, that through line of hate never fully goes away. it only hides. if i said before when i was chairman of the judiciary committee, i felt really good about the extension of the voting rights act for 25 years, they even got strom thurman to vote for it. no, not a joke. and i thought -- i thought, well, you know, hate can be defeated. but it only hides. when given any oxygen, it comes out from under the rocks. in the last few years, we've given too much oxygen to our politics in our media and our internet. too much hate all for power and profit. that's the part where you don't -- that's changed a little

bit. it's about power and profit. too much hate that's fueled extremist violence that's been allowed to fester and grow. as a result, our very own intelligence agencies, our own intelligence agencies in the united states of america have determined that domestic terrorism rooted in white supremacy is the greatest terrorist threat to our homeland today. i've been around a while. i never thought i would hear that, say that. enough. we need to say clearfully white supremacy, all forms of hate fueled by violence have no place in america. failure to call it out is complicity. for those who say we bring this up, we divide the country. bring it up? we silence it instead of

remaining silence, for in silence wounds deepen. we have to face the good, the bad, and the truth. that's what great nations do, and we're a great nation. so we face at this moment an inflection point, one of those moments that determine the shape of everything that's going to come after. our great grandchildren are going to look back and decide whether or not in this two, four, six, eight-year period we'll step up, because the world is changing. all change, change, a terrible beauty has been born. we must choose to be a nation of hope, not of division and hate. and we choose, as we do, we know

this. hate-fueled violence is born into the fertile soil of a toxic division. we won't solve the problem by going after the extreme fringes alone. we have to confront the ways in which our toxic division fuel this crisis for all of us, our differences certainly don't turn a fellow american into a sworn enemy. building bridges across divides doesn't mean we're sacrificing our own beliefs and core values. to be a nation of hope and unity and optimism, we have to recognize we're not helpless in the face of hate and violence. we're far more united than we're divided, but we have to focus on it. in fact, the vast majority of americans are overwhelmingly united against such violence. the vast majority of us believe in honest, decency and respect for others. we can do this together, and i

mean it. we can do this together. last year with susan here at the white house, i signed a bipartisan covid-19 hate crimes act that included provisions named after heather that are going to help state and local law enforcement better respond to hate crimes. earlier this summer i signed into law a bipartisan safer communities act, the first major gun safety legislation in 30 years. [ applause ] it will help keep weapons out of the hands of people who engage in hate and rage and make them dangerous to themselves and others. and i'm going to say it again. i am not going to stop till we ban assault weapons. we have to ban assault weapons. i mean it. we did it once before. [ applause ] and when we did, mass crimes

plummeted. my first day in office i directed my national security and homeland security teams to develop a first-ever national strategy for counter and domestic terrorism. the goal is to improve and enhance our understanding as a growing threat within our country, prevent people from being mobilized to violence, the counter the relentless exploitation of the internet to recruit and mobilize domestic terrorism. and there's more we have to do together, a whole of government approach and a whole of nation approach. that's why today we're launching a new white house initiative on hate-motivated violence. we're going to use every federal resource available to help communities counter hate-fueled violence, build resilience, and foster greater national unity. for example, trainings on identifying, reporting, and combating