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>> the grotesque and cynical politics behind the florida governor's migrant stunt. just like the racist reverse freedom rides of the 1960s, these migrants were lied to every step of the way, so desantis could own the libs. >> also tonight, new reporting from "the washington post" on how trump's team grossly mischaracterized the nature of the documents that he was keeping at mar-a-lago. when the national archives first asked for them back. >> and what a way to end the week. fresh from her triumphant victory at the emmy awards, sheryl lee ralph from abbott elementary joins me tonight. we begin with the freedom riders. the group of white and black civil rights activists who rode buses across the south in 1961 with the goal of integrating public transportation and bus terminals. one of the original 13 freedom riders was the late great congressman john lewis. it was a bold act of resistance

to challenge the segregation laws and the riders encounters violence, beatings, and yale time. the first ride was fire bombed by a white mob in alabama. the rides however would go on to transform america. setting the stage for the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. change is often met with resistance, which is why the next year white segregationists concocted a viciously racist plan, offering black people one-way tickets to the north or to the west with the promise of a better life. these bus trips were dubbed reverse freedom rides. here's betty williams on how her mother was lured onto one of them in 1962. >> my mother was told she was going to have better everything. she was going to have a job and she was going to be able to support her family and her children was going to be able to get an education, be able to go to school. you know, that alone was not the

truth. >> betty's mother was leila may williams of arkansas. and those weren't the only lies she was told. the segregationists promises williams a presidential welcome in hyannisport, massachusetts. here she is, notice her outfit, the dress, a triple string of pearls, a white hat. the outfit that she changed into because she was told president john f. kennedy would be greeting her upon arrival. when she arrived, he wasn't there. there was no job or housing. nothing. southern segregationists hatched this plan to be cruel, for certain, but also to retaltate against northern liberals they believed would be unable to accommodate their new black residents. it would expose them as hypocrites. this is how owning the libs looked in 1962. >> the northern liberals and the naacp, urban league, and people like that especially, they have been crying the same song on

behalf of the negroes throughout the nation, and of course now, when it comes time for them to put up or shut up, they have shut up. >> that was george singleman, a reverse freedom rides organizer, 60 years ago. but sounding, you know, almost exactly like, well, a modern day republican. using people, human lives, as pawns to make a political and let's face it, racist point. sending people of color, fleeing political and economic turmoil, to the north, to stick it to progressive policies. where have we seen that before? oh, right. in every headline that we have seen for the past two days. in what's being called an inhumane political stunt, ron desantis sent plane loads of mostly venezuelan asylum seekers to martha's vineyard on wednesday. they came from texas, landing without warning on the island south of cape cod in massachusetts. texas and massachusetts are states that florida governor desantis does not currently

govern. but desantis is central to this spectacle. telling the republican party's top donors last weekend that he was considering transporting migrants to places like martha's vineyard. the plan was met with thunderous applause. migrants in the group told the miami herald that they agreed to fly to massachusetts on the promise of jobs and assistance, but didn't realize that they were bound for martha's vineyard. three migrants told npr that a woman named perla approached them outside a shelter in san antonio and lured them into boarding a plane, saying they would be flown to boston where they could get expedited work papers. she provided them with food, and she offered help, one person said, help that never arrived. according to attorneys, no one on the island knew they were coming. leaving locals to scramble to meet their needs. immigration attorneys are now working around the clock to understand their legal situations. here is what one of them

revealed la night. >> they were lied to again and again. and fraudulently induced to board the planes. they were told there was a surprise present for them and that there would be jobs and housing awaiting for them when they arrived. this was obviously a sadistic lie. >> joining me now is democratic florida state representative anna escumony, glen kurshmer, a former federal prosecutor, and christina rooney, telemundo senior washington correspondent, and christina, i know you are not on martha's vineyard, but not far away. i know you have talked with some of these migrants. so i want to start with the part that i think for me, anyway, that is interesting to get to the bottom of is the texas portion of it. the people that you spoke with, did their journey originate in texas and did they explain to you how they got from texas to florida before being flown to

massachusetts? >> yes, they did, joy. good evening. they told me that they were in texas. they were kicked out of a shelter because they started charging them $85 a day, so they got kicked out. and a woman approached them and told them that she would help them out. they moved to a hotel and one moment to the next, she tells them get on these buses. i am going to help you out. this is what they said to me. they were driven to an airport, saw the planes. and were told to get on flights because they were going to be given shelter, they were going to get food. including prepaid credit cards. they were even going to get a surprise on the plane. and they were going to have a chance at starting a new life. some of them say that the plane -- the two flights, it was two flights, they stopped in florida briefly, even florida governor desantis recognized that those flights stopped in florida, and then they came to martha's vineyard. >> and just to be clear, the

people that you spoke with, they're mostly venezuelan and colombian, and just to clarify, you're in cape cod where the migrants are now. they have been moved to cape cod and that's where you are. have these families presentedyl texas? >> yes, they had. and that's one of the things that they're very adamant about. they're angry that they're being called undocumented immigrants or illegals. they can't stand the word because they say as soon as they got to the united states, they turned themselves in to immigration officials. they were given parole. we saw the documents they have. so they're here in a legal, fighting for legal status, and they're trying to do it the right way. >> and one more question. did this woman who we have just been told the name perla is the name we have been given. did they mention this woman showed them any form of i.d., to identify what organization she might have been with?

>> they didn't mention her name to me. they did not know any organizations. they say that they were gullible. they were vulnerable. they were hungry, they didn't have money. they're at the border and somebody is offering them a flight out, they're offering them jobs, security, shelter for their children, so they decided to take the opportunity. they were put in a hotel, they were fed. so they saw these promises coming true. so that's why they decided to follow her. all of them, not a single one of them told me that they knew they were coming to massachusetts, not a single one of them told me that they knew what martha's vineyard was. they said they couldn't even locate it on a map and didn't know it existed. >> christina, excellent reporting. thank you very much. much appreciated. i want to turn to you, ana. you heard all of that. you are a state representative, a government representative of the state of florida.

what you heard there sounds to me like a story that was about a texas -- a group of people who presented themselves legally in texas as immigrants. not as undocumented people, but as asylum seekers. did everything they were supposed to do, and were taken through florida. is there anything in the law that was passed in florida that allocated $12 million to do these removals that says that texas asylum seekers may be moved using florida money? because $12 million was allocated for this, and $615,000 per the mimy herald were spend on these flights. that's about $12,300 per migrant. >> first of all, i'm filled with righteous anger about this action by governor ron desantis. and in the state budget, we fought to remove these dollars that republicans added in an effort to pursue their anti-immigrant and candidly, their political partisan agenda

to continuously pivot blame of real problems on the backs of immigrants. there's absolutely no reason why governor desantis should be doing this to protect or to cure florida. especially when we're talking about asylum seekers in a different state. and so it is unbelievable, the governor ron desantis would do this, and also lure and lie to people in a different state to get into a bus so he can just pursue his greater political ambitions, to the harm of vulnerable communities, including children. >> i'm going to play, donald trump had this idea first. just to play this. this is back in 2019. this is what donald trump had to say that he wanted to do. >> they want more people in their sanctuary cities, we'll give them more people. we can give them a lot. key can give them an unlimited supply, and let's see if they're so happy. they say we have open arms. let's see if they have open arms. >> glen, that is what donald

trump wanted to do. he wound up instead basically taking children from their parents, some who were breast feeding children, and moving them around the country, which was despicable and gross, but technically, that was in the federal purview. this is now a state that appears to have extracted migrants from a different state and brought them through florida, and then used this law. can you put this law back up? this is two, downtown sterling brown, my director, that says this allowed, according to their law, the transport of unauthorized aliens from the state to other parts of the country. these were texas, people in texas. nicky fried has called it human trafficking. how do you see it? >> you know, joy, i would call it something even simpler. i would call it kidnapping by inveiglement. it's a word we don't often hear,

but it's a federal crime, 18 united states code 1201. you know, i never go anywhere without my big ugly blue book of federal laws, and i have it right here, the statute, the federal statute says whoever unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, or kidnaps somebody and transports them across state lines is guilty of kidnapping by inveiglement. fancy word. what does it mean? it means to lure, to lead astray, or to entice by false pretenses or deceitful means. now, when i heard what abbott and desantis were doing, it sounded like it might violate the kidnapping by inveiglement statute. what sealed the deal for me is what i heard some of these asylum seeker, some of these migrants say we were promised food, shelter, support for 90 days, english lessons, help filling out work permits, and

then they were dropped on martha's vineyard with nothing. that, to me, is enough evidence, adequate predication, to open a criminal investigation into federal kidnapping by inveiglement across state lines. >> let me play what governor abbott said, because first he sort of distanced himself, but he's been doing the same thing. here's governor abbott of texas. >> i'm the former attorney general in texas, as well as a former texas supreme court justice. i know the law very well. and what we have done in it state of texas is follow the law to the tee, to make sure that everything that we have done comports with the federal law. we receive written authorization by everybody that we transport that they had agreed to exactly what we are doing. >> that does not sound like the biden administration agrees with that, representative, because the biden administration is now discussing a range of options,

potentially litigation to respond to what these governors are doing. ducy, desantis, and abbott. but for the state legislature in florida, was there anything in that bill that authorized $12 million to transport people from florida, who they consider to be unauthorized in florida, to take them from another state and then cooperate with that other state to move them, promising gift cards, jobs, food, et cetera as inducements to get people to agree to get on the flights? >> absolutely not. but i want to add that the bill's original intent was already disgusting and unnecessary and politically motivated anti-immigrant. as a daughter of immigrants, i have to remind my republican colleagues every single day that we're a nation of immigrants. and we should be welcoming those who are tired, hungry, yearning to be free, especially those from communist governments which apparently my governor is so

passionate about freedom, and yet here he is stripping away freedom from those who are seeking asylum from the very government that he supposedly opposes. so this is not only breaking federal law, but it's just blatantly offensive and it's something every american should find unsettling. >> and the last question here, glen, is to you. because they have been doing this repeatedly. they dropped people off in front of vice president kamala harris' house, they have been doing this repeatedly. in your view, are these governors -- is this a stunt or is this a potential crime? you laid out the potential crime here, but who would be the person you would prosecute for this? >> anybody who conspired to engage in this conduct, to deceive people who were here seeking asylum, transport them across state lines, and then not follow through on the promises they made. our law books are full of cases that have been affirmed on

appeal where there has been kidnapping by inveiglement, and abbott can brag about his positions all day long, but you know what he doesn't understand? the supremacy claus. if texas or florida passes a law that violated the federal kidnapping statute, guess who wins? the feds. >> florida state representative ana escomante and glen kirshner. >> new reporting on the lies the trump team told the national archives about the documents they stashed at mar-a-lago. stay with us. you're making all the difference out there kid. next big american. pressure, pressure? pressure, pressure. so where do you think this pressure's coming from? everyone. i'm just here for the mints. [ cheering crowd ] so much pressure. pressure makes diamonds. true. pulisic! he scores! incredible!

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to date, the government has recovered more than 11,000 documents including more than 300 with classified markings from donald trump since he left office. while the twice impeached former president continues to deny wrongdoing, new reporting from "the washington post" shows how the trump team grossly and i do mean grossly, misinterpreted both the scale and variety of government documents under ordinary civilian donald trump's control. even earlier than we previously knew. the post reports that the national archives was told last year that trump did not possess any classified materials and he only had 12 boxes filled with news clippings. that's according to people familiar with the conversations. the post writes, during a september 2021 phone call with top archives lawyer gary stern, trump lawyer pat philbin offered

reassuring news, he said he had talked with former white house chief of staff mark meadows who made the assertion about the dozen boxes of clippings that people familiar with the call said. trump's team was aware of no other materials, relaying information he said he got from meadows. as the post points occupant, this shows trump's former chief of staff was more involved in communications with archive officials than previously known. meanwhile, we're still awaiting a response from the department of justice to last night's ruling by judge aileen cannon denying the agency's request for access to the classified documents seized at mar-a-lago and agreeing with trump' legal team to appoint a special master. it's expected the doj will appeal the judge's decision. now, remember, the rule of law states that no one is above the law. everyone is to be treated eke wale under the law and everyone is to be held accountable to the same laws. well, that's not what this trump appointed judge seemed to say in her ruling, saying, quote, the

principles of equity require the court to consider the specific context at issue, and that consideration is inherently impacted by the position formerly held by plaintiff, unquote. that sure does seem to contradict the oath she took as a judge. and it is just one of several perplexing stances she took in her ruling. among them is the claim there is no identifiable emergency or imminent disclosure of information arising from trump's possession of the documents that belong to the government. some of those had classified markings dealing with some of the country's most closely guarded documents. foreign nationals inside other countries working for us. this judge has now commanded our foreign intelligence services to wait around for two months before the doj can fully investigate what happened with those documents at mar-a-lago.

what about the 48 empty folders labeled classified? wouldn't it be in the interest of national security, i don't know, to be able to investigate what was inside them and where those documents wound up? were they handed over, are they still at mar-a-lago? are they at another one of his properties? this sure sounds like an identifiable emergency, to me. joining me now, andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and senior member of robert mueller's investigative team. andrew, i mean, i say this -- i'm not a lawyer, but i can read. i mean, this judge is essentially saying, there's no problem. we can wait until late november. we have national security analysts on this network who are saying people in the national security world are terrified about what could happen between now and november. we don't know where this material is. how can a member of the judicial branch command the executive branch to not look at documents it owns?

>> so, joy, reading her decision yesterday and reading her prior decision, it's like a greatest hits album, and it's hard to know where to begin because there's so many things that are so wrong. i personally think the thing you started with about her saying right out loud that she's going to give former president trump extra credit and weight here. that violates her oath of office. it's so fundamentally serious, and then your second point is, this is not something where it's like, okay, she violated her oath, but there's no real harm here. the amount of harm that she just cavalierly throws off is -- it's completely shocking. i have been in the intelligence community. it is beyond belief that she could take the position that she did. and that's why we are all

sitting here on tenterhooks waiting to see the department of justice appeal. i'm confident that they will and we'll see that at some point today. >> a couple questions. question number one, to go back just for a moment, to the mark meadows piece. we now know that mark meadows, that the trump team was representing to the national archives that all trump had were 12 boxes of newspaper clippings. we don't know whether they knew that was a lie or whether they were being misinformed by trump et cetera, but that seems really important. that they're not being straight with the national archives from the very beginning, to the point where clearly the national archives had to keep coming back and coming back and finally get a subpoena and get a judge to give them a subpoena, to give the fbi a subpoena. what do you make of that fact, that it doesn't appear everybody was being straight from the beginning? does that indicate that maybe trump wasn't being straight with mark meadows? >> joy, this is how criminal investigations work. you know, we're getting to see

it from the outside. but this is clearly pat philbin going, hey, i'm not going to jail over this. so pat philbin, the lawyer is like, hey, that's what i was told, and i'm going to tell you exactly what i was told and i believed it, but you know, don't look at me. look at him. well now that hot potato is mark meadows has it. and mark meadows is going to have to decide, is he going to own it or is it going to go to who told him that there were only newspaper clippings. at some point, let's get real. we're not dealing with an absentee landlord. this is a micromanager over 18 months, meaning it's donald trump at the end of the day who is going to be hauled into this hot potatoes and mark meadows going to have to make a lot of decisions about which side he's going to be on. we rougher to that in the government of which side of the v do you want to be on, the united states side or the defendant side in united states versus. >> easy call.

easy call. this special master, raymond dearie, he's now called for a preliminary conference. he wants them to appear before him on tuesday, september 20th, and direct them to submit letters before the close of business monday. give me your level of trust of this person, mr. dearie, that he will expeditiously give the government back -- i still am stunned. i thought we had coequal branches of government. i didn't realize the judiciary can say you can't look at your own stuff. i know it's government stuff, but you can't look at it. what's your level of trust in what he's going to do and also the 11th circuit. there's a bunch of trump judges on there too. >> the 11th circuit, let's leave that to the side for the moment because the one really good thing and a positive note for the viewers on a friday afternoon, evening, is we're really fortunate that judge cannon is a chicken and has decided that she's not going to

roll up her sleeves and do her job and is going to subcontract that to judge dearie. because after all, she could have just decided, i'll do the review. but instead, she's got another federal judge doing it. this is where, like, i know judge dearie. lots of people here know judge dearie. joy, i can tell you, you could not ask for a better selection. he is the epitome of what you want a judge to be. he is smart, he is fair, he is wonderful interpersonal skills which i think is going to come in really handy in how he deals with judge cannon. and i think he will be very good at making her understand sort of how to behave and sort of why he's making the decisions he's making. so from the doj perspective, the good news is they know their backup is no matter what happens in the 11th circuit, they should be able to prevail there. but judge dearie is somebody, you know, i always say what you

want from a judge is when you're right, you'll win, and if you're wrong, you'll lose. and that's all you can really expect. and you'll get that from judge dearie. >> i'm going to take it because i will take any good news at this point, andrew weissmann. thank you very much. i'm wrapping that up in a bow and taking it home. thank you very much. have a great weekend. >> all right, coming up, republican senate candidate j.d. vance has been awfully quiet on the campaign trail lately. i wonder why. his democratic opponent, ohio congressman tim ryan, joins me next. stay right there. in 2 seconds, a vacationer will say... yeah, i'm going to live here. only to realize... what if i can't sell my place? don't worry. sell it directly to opendoor and we'll help you buy your next one. aww. get your free offer at opendoor.com

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ohio's jd vance, the peter thooel backed venture capitalist, would like you to think he's running for the united states senate. vance has sort of vanished from the campaign trail, and according to reports, doesn't like to campaign on weekends, which tend to be the best time to campaign. heck, he's not even in ohio. he spent the past two days shaking down republican donors in florida. he's supposed to be back in the state tomorrow, and you would think it's maybe because he wants to catch the ohio state/toledo, football game, but no, he doesn't care about that either, since he scheduled a rally at the same time at the game, with the same ex-president he previously called an idiot and america's hitler. if you listen to what vance has said in the past, you'll get a

better sense of why he might want you to forget about it. >> this is one of the great tricks i think the sexual rev lug pulled on the american populist, okay, these marriages were fundamentally maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that's going to make people happier in the long term. >> there's something comparable between abortion and slavery in that while the people who obviously suffer the most are those subjected to it, i think it has this morally distorting effect on the entire society. >> i have to be honest with you, i don't care what happens to you 1 way or another. >> i asked vance if he thought anti-abortion laws should include exceptions for rape or insist. >> i think two wrongs doencht make a right. >> so to recap, vance wants you to forget he thinks women should stay in violent marriages and he couldn't care less about ukraine, despite ohio being full

of ukrainian americans who can vote, and he told a right-wing podcast he supports a national ban on abortion. let's say ohio bans abortion in 2022, let's say 2024, every day george soros sends a 747 to columbus to load up disproportionately black women to get them to have abortions in california. the left well celebrate this as a victory if that happens. it's really creepy, i'm really sympathetic to that, actually. joining me now is vance's opponent, congressman tim ryan. congressman, i take it you probably don't agree with the multi-pronged conspiracy theory involving george soros, a little anti-semitism in there, the anti-blackness in there, you get california in there. do you agree with said conspiracy theory? >> he has a way of wrapping it all together, doesn't he, joy?

it's absolutely incredible to think that this guy wants to be in the united states senate. i mean, generally speaking, you would say this is a pretty weird guy. you know, this is a weirdo. but it's so dangerous. that's the problem that we run into today. this guy is not sitting on some bar stool somewhere. this guy is actually running for the united states senate. he has a, you know, a bias towards wanting to control. it's control women primarily, whether it's telling them that if they're raped they have to have the rapist's baby and that woman who had been raped has to take care of that baby. he thinks that's a good idea. no exceptions for rape and incest. he pointed out if you're in a violent marriage, and you're being abused, that you should be -- you should stay in that marriage for family values. i mean, this is so extreme. not to mention that you forgot one big one that we keep talking about here. this guy started a fake charity to help people with opiates and didn't spend a nickel on

anybody. he brought in a spokesperson for big pharma, purdue pharma, that does nothing but blame addicts. it's not purdue pharma. they weren't pushing the pill mills. it's the addicts' fault, the people who got hooked. across the board, this guy is dangerous and you can't trust him. >> that's the hillbilly elegy, apparently. yet, let's not forget ohio is a state that the abortion issue is extant, the place where a 10-year-old rape victim had to leave and go to indiana to get an abortion because she had been raped. and yet, and yet, tim ryan, the polls have you essentially tied, if you do margin of error, jd vance, 47%, tim ryan, 44%. that's the real clear politics average. yes, rob portman won by like 20 points, so that's not like a normal republican, you know, spread there. but why do you think he's still getting support? >> well, we're continuing to make the argument, i have seen a

bunch of polls too that have had us up three, five, seven, nine points. so this is neck and neck. it's going to come down to the wire, which is of course, we're asking everybody for help and support. go to timforoh.com and chip in a few bucks. people are learning more and more about jd vance and learning he's dangerous. he's funded by two people, funded by a silicon valley billionaire and he's funded by mitch mcconnell. so all of the jobs we have lost, joy, that you have taukd about over the years, as well as i have, he's being funded by the very people who outsourced these jobs, who sent these jobs to china and made sure that we didn't have a middle class here in ohio for such a long period of time. so that's who he's being funded by. that message is starting to stick. we have a lot of republicans, former senator portman -- senator portman's former chief of staff has endorsed us, his former legislative director has endorsed us. we have a number of republicans

coming onboard. over the last 50 days we're going to close this out and win this race. >> i remember coming to ohio in 2016 and interviewing a bunch of union workers who used to be a solidly democratic group, and the man of steel ad that was on local news, i watch the local news, and it was on every minute. the man of steel ad that made trump seem like the savior of the working man. that worked. how do you win back that union voter who went to trump? >> well, because j.d. vance has personally invested into companies that have benefitted from outsourcing and jobs in china. j.d. vance has given up on us. not only did he leave for california, but he said directly if you're a 55-year-old worker in dayton, ohio, you need to come to grips with the fact you're never going to have a good job again. that's not the kind of person who runs for the senate and wants to fight for someone's

future. he has no connections to the workers in ohio. he said he's not even comfortable in ohio. he would rather be drinking wine and eating cheese in san francisco. i'm a scrapper from ohio, i'm from the mahoney valley. i know how to fight, how to scrap. this is about our people who have been wronged. they're white, brown, men, women, i'm going to go to the mat for them. we don't need another millionaire in the united states senate that is funded by billionaires. people are connecting with this message. they know i'm about ohio. they know i'm about the future of ohio. the more they hear about that, the more they learn about me, the more certain we are we're going to win this race. and he's probably going to end up moving back to california and drinking wine and eating cheese. >> and crudites. that's a thing among these guys. >> that's a thing. >> ohio congressman tim ryan, thank you very much. appreciate you. >> first, i'm going to be getting my fan girl on with emmy

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♪ but i sing no victim's song ♪ ♪ i am an artist ♪ ♪ and i know where my voice belongs ♪ >> yes. that was the amazing, incredible sheryl lee ralph, winning her first emmy on her very first nomination for her role as kindergarten teacher barbara howard on the great series "abbott elementary." it's just a small acknowledgment of her unbelievable career as a screen actress since the 1970s. and as a broadway legend since the 1980s.

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>> when a woman gets up at dawn, runs to the 7-eleven, plows throw a guys with squeegees yelling, hey baby, can you help a brother out? breakfast isn't half bad, it is the bomb. >> i, mean we could've gone on, i have to ask you, you've done so much incredible rolls, what has been your very favorite role to play? >> it has nothing to do with show business. it would be mother to my two children. second favorite role would be being wife. but that's the way i look at it. >> yeah. and how do you approach just the craft of acting and embodying all of these different women? what is your approach? do you do the method act of -- trying to become this other person? what is your strategically?

>> i would have to ask tell you, it's very simple, when it's on the page and the connection is right between the characters and myself, they literally come alive. they literally come off of the page and into me, the vessel, as i'm going to give them life. and it's as simple as that, for me. when it's right, i don't have to work at it, i don't have to make it happen when it's right, it is right, and it's just there. when i think about designing women and when i played the character it cnn tucson bouvier, it's ten came to was her voice. and there was so much love in life, and from the south. and then when i played the president of the united states, that was a completely different woman. she didn't smile very much. and she was always about getting the job done. and then there was just dina jones who was basically your

musical cheerleader with of velvet hammer. and the voice to match. so they literally just come alive themselves. >> the character you are playing now, i wanna play a little clip. let me play a quick clip from abbott elementary, which is the role that when you this incredible award. take a look. >> you have to make sure that this is an isolated incident. >> sweet baby jesus and the pro 12! my deaths have been discussed! >> this is bad. >> their fault, they went on a desk in promotional tour. >> there was a moment at the emmys that weren't great, the quince a brunson moment, jimmy fallon apologized for. but what you get up there, that incredible song that was spontaneous. tell me what you are thinking in that moment. >> it was as if my whole career just came right across me and

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to the end of another busy week which means it's time to play our favorite game -- ♪ ♪ ♪ yes who won the week? back with me is the great sheryl lee ralph. sheryl lee ralph, who won the week? >> you know something? i walked the red carpet a lot i walk with my husband. but he won the week this week. because he got to the carpet and they said, senator hughes, can we get a solo shot? [laughs] i was like, well, well, well in terms of that, senator vincent hughes won the week. >> that was a wonderful answer.

[inaudible] he's gonna be on the next red purpose and say, wait a second. why believe won the week especially with all the people who are so mad about the black little mermaid, i say black actresses won the week, assuredly while, your incredible quintana brunson, lizzo, sunday, highly bailey. all of the great black actresses out there doing the thing. wanda wake. sheryl lee ralph thank you very much. and that is tonight reidout's, thank you everybody. i love, you i appreciate you. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in -- >> what kind of problem, mister president? >> i think will be big problems. >> as justice continues in pursuit of the ex president, why no one has to imagine the big problems donald trump is threatening. >> no caller said, in part, quote, there is a bomb on the way to the hospital. you better evacuate everybody, you sick owes. >> then,