hey everybody, good. afternoon i'm yasmin vossoughian. a very busy saturday afternoon. new buses of migrants arriving at the residence of vice kamala harris as a red state governors continue to use people as a political weapon. the department appealing key parts of a judge's ruling on a special master for the classified documents seized at mar-a-lago. in just a couple of, hours we should hear the feds former presidents reaction to that ruling at a big rally in ohio. plus, president biden leaving

just a little while ago to london for the queen's funeral. it is coming as we get to see an emotional moment involving the queen's grandchildren led by princes william and harry. more on that ahead, as well. but, first the department of justice. following through on their promise to appeal judge canada's special master role in what they call out as quote, an unprecedented order in joining the executive branch's use of its own highly classified records in a criminal investigation with direct implications for national security. before this appeal, the newly appointed special master judge raymond dealey, wasting no, time scheduling his first hearing for this tuesday. for more, we get to senior politics reporter jonathan allen as long as msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. jonathan, let me start with you on this one. and let's get the tiktok of what we can expect first on tuesday? >> well that's a great question, yasmin. i think we are going to see the initial agenda actually on

monday before that tuesday pre conference with judge dearie, and then, barbara obviously is the legal experts and i'm sure has been more involved in these conferences than i have as a non lawyer. but i think you are going to still start to see him at least lay out rules of the road for what he is going to do as special master and get to know these two sides a little better. >> barbara, if you would pick up a little on where jonathan left off their. although we do you trust jonathan's tiktok of what takes place on tuesday, you do have a bit more information in that view. give us your expectations for that day? >> well, i think it is great the judge jury his already issued this order of asking the parties to appear on tuesday and even to submit letter briefs to propose an agenda. so he wants to sketch out what the rules of the road are going to be, the terms of engagement, if you will. and that matters because

understanding what his marshall orders are is very important to his review here. so it may be that some of the lack of clarity that appears in judge cannon's order, that is causing a lot of distrust to the justice department, can be clarified with judge dearie. so i think that they will be looking to clarify the process of what is included, what is excluded, and trying to make sure that that goes as quickly as possible. >> can you talk quickly, barbara, about security clearances here and having to look at some of these documents? because, the former president's attorneys are going to have to look at some of these documents. they may or may not look at some of these documents if they get the security clearance in time. how long does that process actually take. the likelihood that they would view these documents. also the judge himself, to see not have to gain security clearance before looking at some of these highly classified documents, and does that not just delay the process? >> so, first, i just do not secure require a security clearance. he's retired in there maybe a brief period of time for that

but he's been on the fisa court. i think that that can be done in short order if not already. the tricky part is the lawyers for donald trump. these are not government employees, these are not people who have had clearances. and i believe judge jim trusty is a former doj lawyer, probably has one f one point. they can probably be done fairly quickly but i don't know that the justice department has yet conceded that they have the right to look at these classified documents. so that may be one of the matters that judge dearie will address on tuesday is whether these lawyers should have the right to look at classified documents. because what the justice department has asked is, and judge cannon has said is, if this review is going to take place with regard to these 400 classified documents, that should be the priority. get those off the table first. because there's just no valid claim to donald trump's possession of these documents or ownership interest in any way whatsoever. so i think that is going to be litigated. if the judge says they do get to see them, if it's a normal employee situation can take up

to 60 days to get a clear. it's sometimes people a particular problems in the background, it can take even longer. but, i imagine that in this instance the justice department would you ever can't expedite these clearances unnecessary. >> i want to talk a little bit more about judge cannon's ruling, here. in which you criticize, barbara, on twitter. i will read a bit of your tweet and then, jonathan, i will come to you because i want to talk about the appeal leveled by the doj. so, first and foremost, the tweet that you put out there, barbara, talking about the doj throwing judge cannon a lifeline. we talked about this last week, if you go on, and she ignored. it the most outrageous statement in the court order is the rejection of the government's assertion that documents with classified markings are in fact classified. she reaches this conclusion despite an un-refuted affidavit from the head of the fbi's counter intelligence division. expand on this, barbara, if you would? >> yeah, so the way i see that order is, there is good news and bad news. the good news is, judge dearie is going to be your special master. the bad news is, he is going to

review these things. it is sort of like saying, the good news is we've got you the best sergeant in the world. to remove your appendix. the bad news is, you don't need your presence removed at all. and so the idea that they have got the greatest judge in the world to do this doesn't do much good of what they are looking at his is classified documents. and you, know this is a core function of the object executive branch. they see this as a exercise of power's problem. the executive branch gets to designate what isn't isn't classified. these aren't matters within disputed she characterizes them. and so i think that is the piece of this that the justice department has appealed to the 11th circuit of appeal. and that they are willing to take their chances with judged here in all of these other questions about executive privilege, and the 11,000 documents. but when it comes to these hundred or so classified documents, there is just no way on earth these are in any way belonging to donald trump. and, so that is the part i think about her order that has been appealed to the 11th circuit. and they don't even want to get

to before judge deer. >> so jonathan, can you pick up on that. barbara, thank you for that transition. your reporting on this immediate repeal from the department of justice to the 11th circuit. >> right, they basically said that they believe that the original judge, aileen cannon is wrong about all of the documents that donald trump effectively doesn't even have standing because he is not currently the president and these documents belong to the government. but they are willing to go through that process for those 11,000 documents, with the special master, without further appeal. however, it is those hundreds are so classified documents that they are saying are essential to the ongoing criminal investigation, and that there will be irreparable harm to the united states government by virtue of that the united states public if they aren't able to continue to have access to those documents. if there was a delay in their ability to review them, and to use them in that criminal investigation. and their argument is that

there is no harm to donald trump in not having documents that they say do not belong to him. and regardless of whether or not those documents are classified, before this case there was no understanding that any government documents belonged to a president of the united states who had left office. whether classified or not. >> jonathan allen, not so fast. i'm going to be speaking with you again in the next hour or so. thank you so. now barbara mcquade, you got a freebie. you are free to go. thank you, appreciate it. by the way, coming up. former cia officer and fbi special agent truck tracey walter is going to help us break down how the justice decision on the special master may be damaging to the department of justice's intelligence review of these documents. and also that breaking news out of the nation's capital. the new busload migrants being dropped off hours ago in front of the vice president's home. it is the latest arrival sent by bus to major cities industry nations around this country, this week. it is the work of republican

governors, primarily florida governor ron ron desantis and grab greg abbott of texas who have taken it upon themselves to relocate migrants from their states as a political stunt. i want to bring in abc's gary -- for reporting on. this talk to me about what more we know that this latest arrival. how are these people dealing with this, these migrants that are being bused into washington d.c., emotionally from what you are seeing and hearing in your reporting. and, also what is happening with the migrants that were sent to martha's vineyard this week. >> yes, yasmin. just before 7:00 this morning we saw single charter bus pulled up here to the u.s. naval observatory which is where the vice president lives, and more than 50 migrants came off the bus. they were men, women, children, even newborns on this bus. we are told they came from eagle pass, texas. and we are told that they are venezuelan, nicaraguan, and apparently they really didn't have anything to eat during their 30 hour bus ride except

for those amar-y packets that are sometimes given to the u.s. military. and we are told that these folks got off the bus and, volunteers were here to greet them. we saw them there, and they were taken from here to a local church where they are getting medical services, legal services, food, water, shelter, and a figure out the next up. and, very similar things are happening in martha's vineyard. folks up there are now off the island of martha's vineyard, and have been sent to a joint base cape cod where there is the ability to give them a lot more resources that were available there on the island. they will have the medical and legal services. but, of course this is a very fraught political debate on both sides, yasmin. >> talk to me also, gary, about how folks in washington are reacting to this. because we saw folks in martha's vineyard speaking out about the kinds of stunts that they see being pulled with these people that are being sent there. and now, washington. what are people saying there? >> yeah, as it often happens

here in the city, a really depends what party you belong to as to what your opinion is on this matter. republicans for the most part think this is a great idea. the shipping of migrants all over the country, and they are suggesting other locations for them to go to including delaware and wilmington delaware where president biden has homes. democrats, on the other, hand are pretty upset. they think that this is a political stunt, that this is inhumane, and there is one person who is particularly upset. one of the guys who lives here in the south behind me. that is the second gentleman of the u.s.. here's what he had to say. >> i think it is shameful. these are human beings. these are people. they needed to be treated with dignity and kindness and respect. and they weren't. we have so-called leaders in this country who, rather than focusing on what is good for the public within their own states, they are using people as pawns for political stunts. i think it is shameful.

>> the texas governor's office now tells me, they will continue sending buses every single day out of the state. chicago, new york, and washington d.c., until the biden administration changes its immigration policies. jasmine? >> jerry come back for us, thank you, gary, appreciate. beds we are going to continue this conversation our next hour with, you see him right, there domingo garcia. the national president of the league of united latin american citizens. his group is planning a special protest immoral to fight back against the actions of these governors in both the states of florida and texas. we are also tracking some weather, everybody. tropical storm fiona, as it turns towards the caribbean. the national hurricane center has issued a hurricane warning for puerto rico. forecasters saying fiona's rain and storm surge could cause serious flooding and mudslides across the island. right now the storm is nearing the u.s. virgin islands, and could make landfall in puerto rico later on today or tonight, even. and there is a chance it could

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first lady are traveling across the atlantic to attend queen elizabeth's funeral. here they were just a couple of hours ago boarding air force one for the journey. tomorrow the bidens will pay their respects at westminster hall, as well as attended a reception hosted by king charles iii. then on monday, they will in fact attend a state funeral at westminster abby. the queen's eight grandchildren, including prince william and harry, just finished holding a vigil by the queen's coffin in westminster hall. it lasted just 15 minutes. prince william standing at the head, and harry standing at the foot. the king requested that both his sons where their military uniforms after facing some blow back for only allowing prince andrew to wear his uniform at his final vigil. this is the first time that we have seen here is not very

uniform since stepping back from royal duties in 2020. harry of course did two tours in afghanistan during his tenure career and the british army. joining me now to discuss is nbc's lindsay reiner in buckingham palace. and lindsey, take us there if you would what we saw over the last couple of hours, especially during this moment lasting about 15 minutes or so, but so incredibly powerful of the queen flanked by her grandchildren. >> yeah, i was watching this, yasmin, along with everybody else at home. and i got chills. it was such a somber, symbolic tradition. this vigil of princes. we saw that can do this with his siblings earlier. we also saw them do this in edinburgh when her majesty was lying in state there. and princess and made history of the first female to participate in this. and, i spoke to a royal expert in the last hour about what the symbolism is, what it all means for an american audience. and she said, even for the

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have been waiting 12, 14 hours in the cold, all nights in order to get a chance to see her majesty. i spoke to some people outside buckingham palace, of course the crowds are immense here as well. people trying to catch a glimpse of that king going back and forth. we just saw him leave a short time ago to a round of applause. and people told me it doesn't matter how long they have to wait in a queue, they want to be a part of this moment. let's listen to what some of them told me. >> we came because she has done just fantastic service to this country. so, yes we could easily -- and you can see how nice and well ordered it is. people are not rushing or pushing. and, yeah. i think it would be best to do that. just to be part of everything. >> no matter how long it will. take >> it is very important. we had obviously a very hard time for them as a family, but this is their duty. and they have done a really good job. the unity, i think the brothers

have shown is a huge thing for everyone. >> so, tomorrow, yasmin, we are also going to see the king hold a reception for heads of state. we know the president biden will be there. we will be meeting for the first time with prime minister liz truss as she is prime minister, not an official diplomatic meeting but it sounds like there will be a -- between the two of them, yasmin. >> so when we hear about the unity of the brothers harry and william have shown over the past ten days or so amidst the loss of their grandmother, what can we expect when it comes to their rules on monday, lindsey? what do we know? >> so, yasmin, i mentioned we saw a lot of the royal family. we saw the princess reunite in their moment of grief along with their wives and walkabout outside windsor castle. and then we saw, of course, today this display. a public display of grief during the prison vigil of princes. we are going to see the princes in the procession from westminster hall to you

westminster abbey. a very short walk on monday morning after her majesty will no longer lie in state and her coffin will be taken into westminster abby for that state funeral. we are going to see the king and his siblings behind the coffin. then we are going to see prince harry and william behind them, alongside their cousin peter phillips. and they are going to obviously be showing again this very public morning that they have to do as their roles as royals, still unclear exactly what prince area will be wearing. we know that in the procession from buckingham to westminster hall, he wore a morning uniform. he didn't wear's uniform mill uniform. heat today he wore that their gust of the king. so it's sold to be determined what we will see him in, yasmin. >> well, we will certainly all be watching. lindsey reiser as always, thank you, my friend. tune in tonight when nbc's rich verge angle covers how people are processing the queens

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trump once he entered the race for senate. but, in the state that trump won by eight points in 2016 and 2020, this year senate race is closer than expected. vance leads democrat tim ryan by just four points in the latest emerson college poll. want to bring in jessie kirsten's joining me now from ohio ahead of tonight's rally. so i wonder,, jesse off the bat how worried does it seem the vance campaign is over this pretty small lead they have right now? >> yeah, and i just reach out again a short time ago, yasmin, to one of our contacts with the vance campaign to ask him about having and events like this. does this help or hurt them. because as you mentioned, this is closer. it looks closer at least by the polling we've been able to see then you would expect based on how trump has fared here in the last two presidential elections. certainly the establishment gop is at least somewhat concerned about the stage of this race right now. because a group of allied with senate minority leader mitch

mcconnell has poured close to $30 million into ohio for advertisements to help prop up j.d. vance in this campaign. this is something that is probably unexpected from at least some republican strategist. and tim ryan has been dominating the airwaves throughout the summer. so, j.d. vance is now certainly, people who support him are gonna want to see that momentum picking up as we head into that final stretch of the last few weeks of the cycle. >> so, i wonder, jesse as we are talking about j.d. vance. as i lead into a. , talked about the fact the j.d. vance you see this never trumper. and then when he entered the senate race he turned towards the former presidents and received an endorsement from him. but we are seeing for instance in a statement like in a state like new hampshire, you had dawn mold of. after he got the primary win for the republican party, he kind of turned away from the former president. i am wondering if at all there is any indication that j.d. vance could do the same?

>> yeah, and that is not something we have seen yet, yasmin. back in the primary, vance was one of the candidates who said he believed that the results of the 2020 election did not go the way they should have. saying that it was taken from donald trump and that he was one of the people who said that. ultimately he obviously got donald trump's endorsement and became the nominee for the party. and that is an issue that people we have talked to here are still harping on, is the result of the 2020 election. so we haven't seen him take any stance on something like that. we know the j.d. vance has said that he likes where the abortion law is here in ohio, which is that there is a heartbeat bill that went into effect here once roe v. wade was overturned. so on issues like, that j.d. vance is certainly showing a conservative line. or, more in line with the former president, donald trump. but also, something to keep in mind here is that, j.d. vance was very much chilling before donald trump propped him up. one of his opponents in that primary race who was seen as the least trump like candidate

got a sizeable minority of the vote. and there are people here, ohio voters, who basically h stump trump stamp of approval is what they need here among some of the people who have spoken to. so you have to think that there are ohio voters, potentially conservative-leaning or more centrist republicans who don't necessarily want to see someone who is arm in arm with donald trump here. but might want to see someone taking more of a play to the middle and that is something we're gonna be tape keeping an eye on in the last two weeks of the cycle. >> jessie kirsten's expert reporting over, i believe it was the doobie brothers if i'm accurate during that last question. if not, tweet me and tell me it wasn't. thank, you jesse. i appreciate it. >> it has ranging playlist here. >> i can tell, i continue to listen what's going on behind. you thank you, jesse. good to talk to. you so while donald trump's appearance tonight know-how maybe build a campaign event for jp vance, they might focus summer marks on the mar-a-lago vaccination. trump said again this week that he did classified all the

documents seized from his florida state last month, despite his lawyers never making that claim in any of the actual court filings. meanwhile, judge cannon who rejected the justice department's continued access to those documents, is allowing the fbi to be involved in the ongoing damage assessment by the intelligence community. joining now by tracy walter, a former officer in the i-special agents. thank you for joining us on this. one of the concerns is the assessment of the damage has been done with all of the documents, thousands of documents were being held in mar-a-lago and shouldn't have been there. so walk us through how exactly this damage assessment is done? >> so basically the damage assessment is something that would be done probably jointly between the fbi, the cia. contrary to what some folks might think, the communication between the two agencies is actually better since september 11th. so what they would need to know is what damage is there that,

because these documents have been out there, what damage has been created to american interests in america and what damage is their outside to our foreign assets. so what it would probably be doing is sending out people to our stations to create assets inventories and how their handlers go out and speak with them and see how they are doing. and also see how our sources if they disappeared, if they haven't disappeared, if they've been killed, if they haven't been killed, and if they have been apprehended. >> is there a possibility that the damage is ongoing? it is happening now. it happened over the last two weeks with this fight back and forth between the doj and the former presidents attorneys and he is awaiting on decisions from judge aileen cannon? >> i hate to be overly blunt but i think that the damage will really be going on for quite some time, probably decades. i think that this has caused

irreparable damage, quite frankly. because you have to think about it at least from this perspective. when i had a human sources, you have their life in your hands. they are agreeing to basically turn on their own country to benefit the united states and our national security. and if they are found out, there are some serious consequences to them. and this really, whether it affects an acid individually as well, what it does is it makes it difficult for case officers to go out there and recruits these types of folks because they are going to be concerned that their identities are not protected in a way that they are supposed to. so unfortunately i expect this to have some irreparable damage to our national security. >> can a proper damage assessment be done without ample access to the documents that were seized from mar-a-lago considering the ruling from judge cannon? >> that is an excellent question. i personally do not think. so i do not know how you

untangle the two. i think with the shows it's either ignorance on judge cannons part or she just doesn't care. the reality is that you cannot untangle the two of these. this is a criminal investigation, obviously. but this is also a counter intelligence organization. investigation. when i served on the cia a squat at the fbi, you are working hand in hand with the criminal investigators, as well. so i would imagine that both would probably have to stop because they're concerned that they may overstep into the territory that cannon has been pretty vague about them not being able to cross into. >> tracey walter, for us. thank, you tracey. good to talk to you. up next, president biden telling families of brittney griner and paul whelan that he is committed to getting them out of a russian prison. what we know about where negotiations stand with the kremlin, right now. we will be right back. ith th kremlin, right now we will be right back. we will be right back. s to giving your kitchen a fresh spin, with wayfair it's easy.

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right now in the ukraine the ugly side of the war is get having investigators lots of bodies in the western part of the city. it was discovered six days after russian troops retreated from that area. president lewinsky confirming that the mass grave contains bodies of more than 400 civilians including children. several victims, he said, show evidence of torture. as ukraine is conducting its investigation, vladimir putin says russia has no intention of slowing their invasion and could even escalate the attacks. we want to bring in nbc's erin mclaughlin in kharkiv. incredibly troubling. not necessarily something we haven't heard before when russian troops have been fact retreated. and i am thinking specifically abuja, after russian troops retreated from that area and the atrocities that we saw on the ground there. what more are we learning about this situation, erin? >> hey, jasmine.

what we traveled to the town in question, the town of ecu, which is not far from where i am now. the second largest city in ukraine, the city of kharkiv. we saw them ask for ourselves. it is a staggering sight to see, as investigators continue to pull bodies from the earth. just a horrifying, horrifying scene. investigators telling me that they are still working to figure out exactly who these individuals are who are buried in these graves. they believe most of them are civilians. their identities, still unknown. their graves, many of them are unmarked. some marked with numbers. just yesterday, they found one grave site with 17 ukrainian soldiers in one grave alone. the investigator telling me that many of them for signs of torture. broken bones, hands tied behind their back. i spoke to one man who was there to visit the grave of his

mother. his mother died during the russian occupation. he said she was very sick, but he didn't know with what. he didn't know how she died because there wasn't any access to medical care. and that is sort of an underlying fact with the situation of izium. it is a city that has been occupied by russian forces for six staggering months. six, long and tortuous months the city has endured intense fighting and bombardment. there's been no electricity, no running water, no way for any of the residents to contact the outside world. so when we entered the city today, residents came up to us. some were asking for food, asking for medicine. it is clear that these are people very much hurting and very much wanting their stories to be told, yasmin. >> these images that we are seeing, as you are speaking aaron, are just awful to see. and so sad to think about the incredible amount of law that the people there have experienced. but with that, there have also

been some gains. and it is one of the reasons why president zelenskyy visited the region over the last week. as russian soldiers retreated. what are ukrainians saying both about the winds that ukraine has seen recently, the retreat of these russian troops, and the threat from russian president vladimir putin saying he is going to ramp up attacks? >> the russians have been pushed out of the area where we were at today. but they haven't gone far. when we were there in is you we have could hear the sounds of fighting in the distance. while ukraine is claiming this adds a victory, it is clear that there is much more work to be done. this war is far from over although it has given them, at least in the conversations i have been having with ukrainian officials. a boost of confidence that they can win this war. i was speaking to one former

advisor of the ukrainian president, and he was optimistic that that can be done. and be done, perhaps even by next year. though that optimism bears out on the ground, and of course also remains to be seen. russia still has a lot of forces, particularly to the south of this country and in the donbas region, yasmin. >> all, right erin maclachlan for us. thank, you erin. good to talk to. you as the united states is continuing its efforts to assist ukraine, the white house is saying it is also continuing its efforts to secure the release of two americans being held inside russia. president biden met with the families of brittney griner and paul whelan. it was the president's first in-person meeting with the families, although they spoke by phone over the summer, as well. want to bring in michelle's tinder who's joining us from the white house. it is great to see, you my. friend heard about this meeting obviously over the last 24 hours or so reporting come out of the white house on this. what are they saying as to what took place? >> well, the white house is saying that this is an incredibly important meeting.

the first in-person meeting between president biden and the families of paul whelan's brittney griner. we met with paul whelan sister, elizabeth, as well as brittney griner's wife cherelle. and he said that he is going to do everything he possibly can to get their loved ones home. he also said he wanted to make an emotional connection, to hear from the people who are really staying with and keeping their hearts open as their loved ones are continuing to be detained in russia. i want to redo part of what the white house put out after this meeting. they said in parts, the president in appreciated the opportunity to learn more about brittani and paul from those who love them the most, and acknowledge that every minute they're being held in a minute too long. they went on, the white house went on to say, we all admire the courage of the whelan and griner families in the face of these unimaginable circumstances. and, the white house said, we remain committed to reuniting them with their loved ones. so they have president biden, the white house, really underlining the fact that they are trying to do everything that they can to bring both of these americans home. americans, by the, way to the white house and president biden says, are being wrongfully detained in russia.

>> so, where are they it when it comes to progress and getting them home? >> well, it is a key question. we know that several months ago, the white house and the united states government, they made an offer to russia to trade it victor bout who is a convicted arms dealer who's spending 25 years in a u.s. president. the biden administration to getting at the unusual step of publicize in that. the white house said that they are doing that because they want to reassure americans across the country that they are doing everything they can to bring these two americans home. but it is unclear whether or not russia is responding. and it seems as though, the white house that russia is ignoring the offer. take a listen to what john kirby, a spokesperson for the white house in charge of strategic communications for national security, take a listen to what he had to. say >> we made a serious offer. we went we want them to accept. it frankly, these two individuals ought to be home anyway. period. but, we understand that there,

that is probably gonna have to be the result of a negotiating process. one that we are willing to participate in honestly and fully. and we have been doing that. >> so, brittney griner, we should remind folks has been detains now in russia for seven months. she was sentenced to nine years. paul whelan has been there since 2018. he is serving a 16 year sentence. so this is a heartbreaking situation, but the white house is saying that they are trying to do everything they can. and of course, that offer remains. >> michelle sender, thank you for bringing that to us. appreciated. a quick programming note for tomorrow night, msnbc films presents model america. a four parent series which details the fall out after a black teenager was fatally shot by a white police officer in teaneck new jersey back in 1990. here is a quick clip from the documentary. >> i got a call from -- in teaneck who was a friend of mine. and he just called me up, screaming.

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republicans are still doubling down on their antiabortion stances, ahead of the midterms. like senator marco rubio, who is cosponsoring lindsey graham's 15-week abortion ban. joining me now to discuss this is shauna thomas, ultraviolet cofounder and executive director. i've got to say, i think a lot of folks are scratching their heads as to what lindsey graham was doing coming out this 15-week abortion ban across the board, right? and now hearing that marco rubio is signing on to cosponsor this, just by the fact that within the last month even said, we have to leave this issue up to the states. what do you make of it? >> look, we said kavanaugh would vote to overturn roe. we were called crazy. we said the supreme court would overturn roe, we were called crazy. we said despite what they are saying, republicans would pursue a national abortion ban, and again we were called crazy. so let's be clear about what republicans are doing here, despite what many are saying. they are looking to ban nearly all abortions in every single state. they are trying to stop people in every state from being able

to get access to the health care we need. bottom line. just as we were right about kavanaugh, right about the courts, right about republicans pursuing a national ban, folks really need to hear us on this. if republicans get power, they will ban abortions and every single state. >> so, let's talk about what specifically is happening in the state of wisconsin and how inside of abortion rights is really getting women to register to vote across the board. we saw waves in kansas, obviously, as well as upstate new york, alaska. but here, this is from reuters. women about paceman a new registrations of wisconsin by almost 10%, according to analysis by the democratic data firm target smart. the battleground state is critical to democrats hopes of holding on to their slim majority in the senate. if barnes can and feed incumbent republican senator ron johnson, it would provide a cushion should the party lose a seat in the in a state like nevada or georgia. what do you make of this, of

the idea of so many women beginning to register to vote more and more because of this issue, and do you think, in a state like wisconsin for instance there is a shot? >> i do think there is a real shot. republicans have no idea the anger they have stirred up over this. women, people in red states, blue states, they are absolutely fired up. we saw in kansas, we thought in the special election with parietal extra new york. we are seeing it in states all across the country. and now they've introduced a national board should be, and i think people are gonna start to internalize that this isn't just about one state, two state, three states on the line here. this is a national problem. and i think we are going to continue to see, not only women registering but, people across the board who do not want to see republicans enacting even more extreme agenda. >> then there is the flip side, right? republican lawmakers tweaking their stance because they understand with the public sentiment is when it comes to maintaining abortion rights. now i want to read from you

from the washington post, saying this week senator ron johnson the and new mexico gop governor candidate mark russia to letting voters address the issue is underway. is johnson, meanwhile, suggested wisconsin held a ballot referendum to add rape and incest exceptions from the wisconsin civil war era law banning nearly all abortions. we really ought to pull the citizens, he said, and i'd rather do a direct referendum. and this is not the only place we are seeing this. >> absolutely. you are seeing some republican candidates scrubbing abortion altogether from their websites. there are some politicians who are reading the tea leaves and are adjusting their positions. but the truth is, abortion is on the ballot this fall. they are going to fall in line. and red states, and blue states. the story is not going to fade, regardless of what they are saying publicly. because, the state legislatures in nearly half the states are continuing to pursue, or actively are passing abortion bans like they did this past week in west virginia. the stories of the chaos, and

real harm to people as a result of these bands unfortunately is going to continue because that is what happens when politicians passed one size fits all laws. and, none of these folks are really interested in doing anything other than controlling women's bodies. that is the bottom line. and that is what the party stands for so. they can try to run from it, but i think people are understanding the theme here which is that the national abortion ban, and abortion bans wherever possible is the goal. and -- >> no please, finish. >> well i was going to say, winning. people registering, this isn't going to happen magically. we have to be very loud and clear about what the stakes are. we have to work for it. because there are gonna be some republicans were going to try to up the stakes. they are going to try to spread a lot of disinformation about what is at stake, and what they really stand for. so every person watching this crisis unfold really have to understand that, not only do they need to vote, they need every when they need to they note about. we need everyone jumping into

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