good day from outside buckingham palace in london where today is a day of prayer, tears, and preparation ahead of tomorrow's stay funeral for queen elizabeth. i am andrea mitchell, alex win is off. what is happening now a reception at buckingham palace behind me. king charles is hosting world leaders who are in town for the former queen's funeral less than 24 hours away. president biden among the dignitaries just arriving moments ago at that reception. just in the last hour we saw him arriving earlier at

westminster to pay respects in person at the site of queen elizabeth's coffin. they are accompanied by dr. jill biden, the first lady. in jane hardly the u.s. ambassador. signing a condolence book. the condolence book he also spoke afterwards about what the queen meant to him. they last saw each other in cornwall just a year ago at the g7. he said she reminded him of her mother. his mother, rather. >> the ones who stand out in your mind are those whose relationship and interaction with you are consistent with their reputation. the queen had us to the castle for tv, we were joking about crumpets. she kept offering me more i kept eating everything she put in front of me. [laughs] she was the same in person as she had an image. decent, honorable, all about

service. meanwhile as we count down the hours before the funeral people are still joining in incredible numbers, joining the queue to pay their respects in person. hundreds of thousands spending long hours, as long as 24 hours online. they are just waiting to spend a few minutes near the coffin -- just a few minutes inside of westminster hall. you can see the crown on a velvet pillow. in a few moments big ben will be striking to start a national moment of silence as police tightened security around the capital for the final farewell tomorrow. joining me now is nbc news that brownie and royal commentator daisy mcandrews. matt, what can you tell us about the security preparations? we are talking thousand, 10,000 police and military. the military is expected to

play in securing this one event? >> 10,000 police, 3000 of them from outside london coming to secure this incredible event. it's not just because of -- its central london tomorrow celebrating the queen's life hoping to catch a glimpse of celebrities. it is also the celebrities, the heads of state. the dignitaries. some 500 of them that are going to be arriving. they, are of course, having their own headache and logistical challenges. those 10,000 police and all of those soldiers who are also going to be trying to secure this. this is going to be a big challenge. part of the challenge here is with this line. it doesn't look like a line right now because they kind of stop and start it every once in a while but there is still a line. you mentioned that people are still joining it. andrea, not for long! they have to stop the line at the very end, miles away from where i am. it goes about ten miles into

western and central london. rather, east london. they have to stop it in order to keep people continuing to join. if the line exceeds about 12 hours, they will not be able to make westminster palace behind me to see the queen lying in state before the queen's coffin is moved to westminster abby. that lying in state and at 6:30 am tomorrow morning. about 1:30 am u.s. time. this is going to be something that could lead to disappoint people. people who had hoped to join the line, maybe they waited too long that probably. won't be allowed any longer. authorities are gonna cut that line off. the next two hours we'll be hearing from another person behind me, big ben. there will be a sound of no chimes it sounds from big ben in morning, the night before the queen's funeral. this is, again, a logistical challenge. one that a lot of authorities here are welcoming.

this really is bringing this country together. andrea. >> and daisy, this funeral has long been choreographed by buckingham palace. what do we know about the ceremony, the pomp and ceremony very much choreographed by her majesty herself. >> absolutely her fingerprints all over the plans for tomorrow. although the plans from the day she died right through the lying in state. they've been talking about. up to the funeral tomorrow. the funeral is in three parts tomorrow we've got a big formal funeral in westminster abby. a place that she knew and loved very much. where she was married, where her last thanksgiving service for her husband happened just last year. behind the scenes there's so much going on. when the lying in state comes to an end at 6:30, london time tomorrow morning, there's actually a period where they crown jewelers will go -- you were just pointing out the crown de orban deceptive part of the crown jewels are on top of her casket.

they go in to give it a really good clean and polished. the last time that happened for her father saying it's day it took two hours -- getting all the dust. think of the hundreds of thousands of people who have walk past it. it has got to look its best tomorrow. all of the things that we won't see tomorrow. obviously the coffin with the crown jewels on top will be pushed onto the carriage taken round to westminster abby. we have already seen that once. not on the same gun carriage. a lot of people are asking me on social media how come the crown doesn't fall off when the paul bears are lifting it? it's attached i did ask the people responsible. there are these brass fittings that actually attach it through the flag standard so that it can't fall off. there are all these things, different things to think about. obviously there would be the very, very, big ceremony of the funeral itself. then the gun carriage will transfer the coffin to the hearse that the queen design herself. you are saying how she had a hand in everything! that will then go on the long

route to windsor. passed hundred thousand people as well. and then a more intimate service in windsor. followed by a completely private one at 7:30 tomorrow evening uk time. when she will actually be entered in the chapel where her father, sister, and mother aren't. >> when we think about st. george's chapel, that is when we last saw her with prince philip being memorialized, sitting by herself. because of covid in the pew, looking so frail. now, just months later, nearly a year later she is gone as well. we want to talk more about some of the circumstances. the pomp and circumstance tomorrow. nbc news lindsey reiser is also in london. joining us, tell us about that reception in buckingham palace behind us, lindsey. >> right, andrea. we have been watching live pictures of some guests there tonight for the state

reception. king charles will be hosting, very interesting to see all of the events that the king is had this week even as this new role as king leading the nation through mourning. morning himself, of course, the loss of his mother. we know there will be so many dignitaries flying in for this funeral. somebody to canaries and their family members will be at the state funeral. about 2000 guests. royalties from other roy spain, the netherlands, sweden, finland, even royalty coming from japan! >> one person who is not going to be, there proud cranes muhammad from saudi arabia reuters is reporting he will not be coming to the funeral. of course a big night of pomp and circumstances. human daisy talk about all the processions as people continue to file in their. andrea we also heard from new statements today from members of the royal family. prince andrew releasing a statement also camilla speaking enabled which will be viewed

tonight before that national silence. camilla expected to talk about how there has been such solitary being the lone woman on the world stage. prince andrew in his statement in his part saying mom, your love for your son your compassion your karen confidence i will treasure forever. and we are still watching people file in. across from here on the house of parliament and big ben, similar to where matt was. i have to gentleman who was queuing behind me what our this is for him. he said it was our five. he was thinking it was moving quite fast. just as matt said there they are letting people in in waves. there are a ton of people behind me right now. the one thing that is really a constant as we are watching people, they do not look weary. they have smiles on their faces. they are stopping to take photos and remember this moment. andrea, i've spoken over the past few days many, many people either queuing or queuing in the queue or queuing at buckingham palace where human

daisy are right now, queuing in gruene park. everyone is told me they are happy to do it. this really is a time for unity for them. they feel like this has brought all of them together. they are in an uncertain kind of limbo period right now, economically, politically, they have a new prime minister. this has been a chance for people to come together, think about something that is bigger than themselves. hinkto see some of this traditin that really grounds them in this time of uncertainty, andrea. >> thank you so much, lindsay. and, daisy i want to pick up -- talking about some of this pomp and circumstance. i was told that the lord chamberlain scepter will be at the final interment will be broken. the scepter that leads the queen into the -- it will actually be broken into and then placed in the grave? >> that is exactly right.

snapped by the world chamberlain along with the duke -- there are the two most important organizers of the ceremony. as a symbol that he will no longer be the lower chamberlain because he is no longer serving the queen -- it's like a white stick. it is not part of the crown jewels, don't worry. at the beginning of parliament he would carry. he will snap and half, it will go in top of her coffin. funny enough, it is actually thought that the president world chamberlain will be re-employed by king charles. he will not be losing his job it is a sign to show that, with your death, but responsibility has gone. i will break my stick of office. >> that sticking office has lasted 70 years. there were probably several lord chamberlain's, one queen. it is with the monarch it survives with her. >> some of these elements are extraordinary. the duke of norfolk who was ultimately responsible for planning all state funerals and

the opening of parliament is a hereditary position. it's probably one of the only hereditary position in our house of lords that has any responsibility that comes with it. even the royal family, it is a titular position. he is something like the 12th duke of norfolk to become grand marshal. with the title comes responsibility for these events. you think about how huge this event is. she is the guy in charge as well as -- there is a bit of culture within the government that was responsible to the day-to-day organization with don. >> you were talking earlier about the crown and how heavy it is. it doesn't fall off because people were asking you -- as it was being carried on top of the casket, it was essentially pinned down as it went through that guard carriage it reminds me of queen elizabeth one commenting the reason why she didn't look down when she read through speech to

parliament is it is so heavy it would break her neck. >> it is nearly four pounds. if you think about that and pads of butter i'm not sure how many it's very, very, heavy! it is also quite small. in time for king charles coronation, we don't know when with some time in time for spring of next year it will have to be made bigger. the crown jewelers are going to have to change it. it is fitted for her head at the moment, the imperial state crown. a lot of things are going to have to have been behind the scenes to make sure it can sit on king charles's head. i don't think it will be comfortable but at least it should fit. >> we hope the crown will fit the monarch, they will make sure that. >> she famously said she would walk up and down before her coronation, up and down before her apartments here in buckingham palace practicing to get it right. with a crown on her head, margaret princess margaret told the story of her walk around

the corner and seeing the queen as she said looking rather ridiculous walking up and down because she didn't want to get it wrong. it is a heavy responsibility in every way. >> only 25 years old, remarkable! >> that is extraordinary. only 25, king charles is 73. he has had a lot of time to get his head around the idea. she did not. in some ways that brings its own complications. he had a lot of baggage that he brings with him. he has been around for a long time. he has been around with a lot of causes. trying to understand what sort of king he will be now a lot of people are spending a lot of time puzzling about that waiting to see. >> people in america have also been struck by the remaking of the image of camilla, the queen consort. she is going to give a speech, a pre-recorded speech tonight speaking about the queen as a leader of women. she was the only woman -- i was struck in reading biographies of margaret

thatcher, someone who i covered. one of the bonds that they did have, there were different disagreements but the queen on her by attending her funeral. who she hadn't done since winston churchill for a prime minister. that your had also gone through being in a male hierarchy, the political hierarchy not the hierarchy of lordship. being a rare woman, the first now of three women prime ministers. >> absolutely, both of them had to survive in a man's world. i think that is exactly what queen consular camilla is going to be talking about we've already seen a clip of how difficult it must have been for her back in those days. we also know from various memories and letters that have been revealed since then that most court years and politicians and members of the establishment back 70 years ago when the queen became the queen, they didn't think that they would be up to it. they thought that she would be

a mouthpiece for whatever they wanted her to say. she really surprised a lot of people. in fact it was winston churchill who would say behind closed doors that she is going to be up for it. i will make sure she is going to be uproar. i will teach you everything i know. that's one of the reasons why the queen is always so grateful to winston churchill. he had faith in her that she could do it. sat on her own two feet and be respected. as a woman she did not have a formal education. >> no. >> growing up, it was never expected that she would have this role until the application. >> she never went to school, proper school. she had governesses. quite common at the time for areas to craddock young women. in girls. she really felt that she had to do a lot of catching up later in her late teens in early twenties la she studied very, very, hard to catch up on -- she had been taught constitutional affairs that my effect a member of the royal family but as far as world affairs, she always said that

she felt not properly educated. really making at her mission to educate herself. >> if i may for a minute be permitted a personal reminiscent's. i had one extraordinary experience going to balmoral with my husband when he was being guided by the queen, having lunch with her. we were briefed to only discuss dogs, horses, and the weather. the minute she sat down she want to know everything about the global economy. she was so well versed. gordon brown the former prime minister just friday in an interview for msnbc told me that she would know more about the complications in the budget than he would! he was the former chancellor of the chamber when he was prime minister. he had to really study when he presented the budget to her. she really did her homework. >> she not only did her homework but she retain that information. she had a incredible memory. the reformation of the church in scotland had dinner with her the senate before last, just a few days before dying. stayed the night about moral

had lunch with her on sunday. he was saying once he got over the shock of realizing he was one of the few of the last people to be entertained in balmoral by the queen he was saying she was absolutely as sharp as attack in those conversations. just as you said, he was asking everything about the question the church of england the sermon. she was talking about horses she had owned 40 years before. she could still recall their names. she let him out to look at the window at the gardens about moral. talking about all the changes that it happened. she never lost her memory or her recall of events. when you think of how many events she had been to, she can remember names, places, and dates and people right up until her dying days. >> let me just give you one more little nugget of information that i just learned in the last 24 hours, i had covered the 1983 visit to california. she was supposed to ride horses with ronald reagan's on

mountaintop ranch. because of a horrible hurricane, a huge storm, they couldn't. they could barely see. they were held up there, it was quite dangerous. they couldn't see anything. i just heard authoritatively, that there is always an exchange of gifts in a state visit. the white house was quite amazed that the diplomatic service, each side will tell the other what was an appropriate gift. she wanted a hewlett-packard computer loaded with the con breeding software, horse breeding software. this was to a white house that was still operating on weighing computers. they did not have anything modern. >> she loved technology. >> they called hewlett-packard. they said, yes, we know exactly what you want. she was such a competitive horse woman. she wanted to beat the of a con in races. the white house discovered

years later that former officials discovered from the ava khan that he was amazed at, seven years later, he had gotten the software. i knew it, i knew she had gotten that software! how did he get that software. she wanted to be able to beat him in horse racing. knew exactly what kind of computer she wanted. >> by the way, they provided it. when she died she owned hundreds of horses. we do not know who they will be passed on to. in her life out of her winnings from the race horses. she had about 7 million pounds. that was how successful she was. the big five races here in the uk, there was only one that she never won, the derby. just a few months ago she had more runners in that. she, the only person whose phone call she would always take, no matter what, was her horse trainer. when we get through to her, they would have huge

conversations about bloodlines, what they would be doing next. breeding. she absolutely adored that. that was her passion. she was canny at it. >> daisy, i could talk to you forever. we don't have that time but we've had fun. we invite all of you to join us recover to the queens funeral beginning at 5 am eastern right here on msnbc. we will bring you the latest on what is happening here in london including that reception here at buckingham palace. thousands are still waiting for their chance to say goodbye. first, we will unpack this headline about the queen's mar-a-lago boxes. that is coming up next. you're watching msnbc. defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief! two pills relieve allergy headache pain? and the congestion that causes it! flonase headache and allergy relief. psst! psst! all good! it's the all-new subway series menu! 12 irresistible new subs... like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef.

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reviewing appointed by the judge to review the document has scheduled a meeting for this tuesday with the justice department and former president trump lawyers. judge raymond dearie has been given authority to decide whether any of the documents in question are protected by executive privilege. the washington post is reporting that trump's team told the national archives that the boxes at mar-a-lago contained only news clippings, a claim that vastly underestimated what the federal agency found in the former residents the state. nbc news has not confirmed the post reporting. joining me now is one of the reporters on that byline, washington post congressional investigation reporter jacqueline eliminate. she's also with amazon contributor -- lisa rubin legal analyst for the rachel maddow show. jacqui, according to new reporting former waste how she staff mark meadows appears to be playing a very prominent role in this investigation. do we know if he has been cooperating with co-op investigators? >> andrea that is a question we are still seeking the answer

to. our reporting shows that he was involved with the legal strategy and dealing with these boxes. at least from the very outset, -- what was previously known. according to our sources, mark meadows had conveyed to packs of trump's natural archive there were only 12 boxes at mar-a-lago that they consisted entirely of news clippings. he attested to pat film in, who then relayed this message to jerry stern the top counsel at the national archives that trump had not destroyed any documents. that was the document. there were no any remaining or outstanding missing documents at mar-a-lago. it is unclear where meadows was getting this information from. did he go down to mar-a-lago and check himself? again, there's still a lot of questions here. i think that this underscores

and highlights the extent to which the trump legal team and his members of trump's orbit were not diligent or careful about retrieving these documents. the links that the national archives had gone to in the lead up of turning this investigation and referring it to the department of justice in the year after the former president left the white house. trying to retrieve these documents back under the presidential records act. >> indeed, it was more than a year jackie a spokesman from meadows released a statement on friday, after your story was published in the washington post, saying in part that mr. meadows did not personally review the boxes in mar-a-lago. he did not have a role in examining or verifying what was or did not contain within them. is this a denial or more of an explanation? more context for meadows? how do you see it? >> we see it as a non denial. nowhere in that statement does

it say or specify where mark meadows got that information from. regardless, he was making and statement to film and about this issue. we previously reported that weeks before trump left office, the white house counsel, through the white house office of record management had flagged to trump's white house counsel that there were two dozen boxes in the residence that contained information and materials that were needed to be returned to the federal government. to the white house of office federal management, which wouldn't go to the national archives as the former president transitioned out of the white house. that was never done. that first email came to trump's legal team when he left the white house in may of 2021. from there there is a very well documented stream of communications from the national archives to trump's legal team trying to get these items back.

>> lisa rubin, the justice department is appealing judge cannons ruling in part even at the special master is beginning his radio documents. how do both of those things play out at the same time? explain the decision not to appeal all of it. to narrow it to trying to get the access walled off to the classified documents by both importantly the master in the trump lawyers. >> i should clarify, what this justice department has done so far is seek a partial stay on john cannons ruling pending their appeal. they haven't actually filed their appeal yet. it is still possible that they could appeal the entirety of judge kent's order. i do not think they will do that, here is why. the appeal proceeding with the special master, at least with respect to the materials that are crossed a fight, there are trade-offs with respect to timing. if they choose to appeal the entire thing and see could steal the entire thing, which they have not, they might lose

more time with respect to materials the harken back to them which they couldn't get by allowing the judge proceeding. tuesday, as you know, is the not only the first meeting with judge dearie but also the day on which trump's lawyers have their statement on this day due to the 11th. >> lisa, talk to us about judge dearie both sides agree that he was a appropriate master. he is highly regarded, is he not? importantly also a past fisa judge. he has dealt with classified documents in the past. he knows the importance of these top secret and compartmentalize documents. >> in my practice, andrea, i have never had an appearance for experiencing judge judy but everything you say is precisely correct. lawyers are soaring to both sides of the i would say the judge dearie is no nonsense, he is fair.

nohe is a good and solid judge. as you know, he has experience as a five court judge between 2012 and 2019. not only does he have experience with classified materials, it is very recent material. one of the quarter page applications that was the subject of the justice department office of inspector general report was presented to judge dearie himself. that being said, one thing that judge dearie does not have a reputation for being is particularly fast. one thing you probably have noted is judge dearie have senior status in the eastern district of new york. that is not just an honorific. it means the judge jury is at a point in his career where he has a reduced caseload and have some say over which cases he takes. in late august he would announce that he would go on inactive status. that is really the official form of retirement. now it seems that he is not going to do that. all of that to say, someone who is approaching retirement may not want a matter that would

proceed as fast as the justice department won the special master to go. >> lisa reuben, thank you so much. jack anna-meni, all of your reporting. president biden, in london now for the funeral of queen elizabeth. he is at a state reception as we speak right now in buckingham palace behind me. in a moment, his new reflections on the queen, coming up next. p next glass damage, let safelite come to you. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: my customer enjoys time with her family. so when her windshield got a crack... she scheduled with safelite in just a few clicks. we came to her house... ...replaced the windshield... and installed new wipers. that's service on her time. >> grandkid: here you go! >> tech: wow, thank you! >> customer and grandkids: bye! >> tech: bye! don't wait, schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ you see, son, with a little elbow grease, you can do just about anything. thanks, dad. that's right, robert.

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the president and first lady signing a condolence book for queen elizabeth earlier today. nbc's monica alba at the white house. monica talk to me about the president and some of his comments about her majesty. >> of course, andrea, the president first met the queen as a senator from delaware in the early 80s. most recently, last summer when the queen hosted world leaders

for the g7 summit. inviting the president and the first lady to have t at windsor castle where the president remarked that she had reminded him of his own mother. he expanded on that today and that reflection, as well as what he seem to think she meant to the wider world beyond just the uk. take a listen. >> i think what she gave is a sense of maybe above all of the notion of service. we all owe something. something within our capacity to do that can make things, not just the world better but enable her better, your household better, your workplace better. that is what she communicated to me anyway. it was an honor to meet her. >> upon arriving today the president and first lady did go to westminster hall to pay their respects to queen elizabeth's coffin in person. now they are at buckingham

palace for a private reception with king charles the third. we know the president did have a phone call with the king where he offered his condolences. today would be the first opportunity for that in-person meeting since charles, of course, became king. what is notable here, andrea, this is the focus of this trip for the president and first lady. diplomatic feelings that may happen dealing there is a new prime minister, that will mostly be left to later in the week when he travels to new york city for the un general assembly. he may be in the same room as liz truss, the new british prime minister. the first formal bilateral meeting will not be for a couple of days. again, they want the focus to be on this period of mourning. the president and first lady will both be there to represent the united states at the state funeral tomorrow, andrea. >> thank you so much, monica alba at the white house. jason mcandrews joins me again. daisy, it's significant that even though they have thought about a meeting with liz truss.

they're both here, there may be downtime. but they both decided it is not appropriate. this is a moment to talk about her majesty, her transition. the significance of both in terms of royal succession as well as the pomp and circumstance and religious aspects of this. >> i think that is absolutely right. i think it was deemed to be inappropriate for politics to be going on when this is a somber time for morning. to be respectful for the queen. i also think that president biden's comments were really touching. they were also personal. i think that the king, king charles will react very well to that he is a much more emotional person than either of his parents were. he likes -- to where his heart on his sleeve. definitely more in touch with his emotions. deathly much more comfortable talking about them.

something that was considered a weakness when he was some younger man when the tradition in this country was all about stiff upper lip, stoicism, talking about your emotions was a bit embarrassing. things have changed. i think king charles will be a much more emotional person. he will have reacted well to president biden's comments. >> we actually saw the evolution beginning with queen elizabeth. her initial response to diana's death, and then how that evolved. she was persuaded to the people wanted to hear from her about the peoples princess. they had that extraordinary funeral. >> if you think about 70 years ago when the queen became the queen a big percentage of people in this country still believed in the divine right of kings and queens. in other words they believe that the monarch was sent from gone. that is a huge change over the years. that meant that in those days

monarchs were brought up to not talk about their emotions. to have an air of mystique. don't give a lot away because it ruins the magic of the royal family. now things are very different particularly charles and williams actively want to talk about their emotions. getting in touch with the emotions of their subjects, the people. >> as we have seen them in their walk about shaking hands. jamie can do, thank you again. >> thank you. democrats call it a stunt, republican say it is anything but. how are voters going to see it? we are some early indications, that is coming up next. plus, the latest at what is happening here in london. a luncheon from world leaders in buckingham palace. thousands are waiting for their chance to say goodbye and grief. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete hiv treatment you can get every other month.

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polling out today as we inch closer to the midterms showing that democrats have pulled even with republicans ahead of november's elections. both parties now tied at 46% on congressional preference among voters. the parties are finding different levels of support for different issues. the democratic party is favored in its handling of protecting democracy, education, abortion and health care. voters favor the republicans when it comes to handling border security, the economy, immigration and crime. the issue of immigration is front and center right now as a political batter is brewing over republican governors busing and flying migrants to democratic running blue states in the north. earlier today on msnbc new york city mayor eric adams revealing new details on what he found out about the migrants that were sent to his city. >> we were told that they were given misinformation. some of them were tagged and you treat cattle.

some of them were dealing with covid issues. some tested positive for covid. lack of food, dehydration, no attention to medical care. many wanted to go to other destinations. they were not allowed to do so. instead, they were placed on a bus to new york and basically told to get out of dodge in 24 to 48 hours. it is unacceptable. >> let's go now to florida, republican at the very center of this controversy, ron desantis. -- there is a large venezuelan american population. how are they viewing these migrant drop offs? the one in martha's vineyard where two busloads of venezuelans. >> andrea, dirrell is the most venezuelan city in the united states. there is a large number of migrants who have arrived here. some as you said were seeking

asylum in the united states. even before than this with the city that was initially a lot of investors coming from venezuela sounded the city. they were part of the city the city grew so much. this is a place where you can come get opinions and see how people feel especially because a lot of the hispanic voters in southern florida identify with republican party and have supported ron desantis just a few minutes ago i spoke to a man who was in the country going to the asylum process. he's been here for a few years. he told me how he feels after seeing these migrants being sent to martha's vineyard. here is part of the conversation. >> no, no. -- [speaking non-english] >> as a venezuelan immigrant he had a very positive concept of ron desantis. this is going to change the way he looks that rhonda santas. >> just like other venezuelans i spoke to here, other

venezuelan americans, most of them told me that this might change the way they view governor ron desantis. this is a small group of numbers that were sent -- most people telling me they feel humiliated by what has happened. the issue here is not just that these migrants are being sent, of course that is something that there is a system in place for markets to come to united states seeking asylum, by the way. they are going through the process in the courts. there is a system in place to try to help them. this is melting with this system to 70s individuals to these places. >> this is something that needs to be handled through immigration reform. bipartisan support has said they need immigration reform in the united states. for now and doral florida the venezuelan population responding with some anger because of the migrants who were sent to martha's vineyard. >> a red hot issue. there have been decades of

failures by both parties and dealing with it in any substantive way. thank you so much. thank you, george. joining me now is sochi in a house a, democratic strategist and former senior adviser to the communication director at the dnc. georgia, thank you for being here with us today. you've tweeted that these migrants are fleeing dangerous conditions. we should be helping them, not politicizing the terrible situation there. talk to me about how you view what government desantis did. >> well, republicans are pulling political stunts. andrea, this is causing chaos in communities. the chaos that we are seeing on our tv screens in martha's vineyard, washington d.c., the flights that are being taken are not to solve the problem. they are to make a political stunt. make this front and center ahead of the midterm elections. i think it is really important to talk about that these are asylum seekers. as you know asylum seekers have

a legal right. the are fleeing dangerous conditions. they have a right to seek asylum and to -- what is happening here is instead of ron desantis and governor abbott coordinating with the administration on the best way to process these migrants they have a legal right they are instead dropping them off with no notification. people are scrambling causing chaos in communities. many of these refugees, they told them that they were going to different places. they misled them, what you are seeing play out is somewhat similar to republican tactics in the trump administration we saw chaos on our screen throughout child separation, the muslim ban. if republicans are really serious about dealing with each of these migration issues they would work at the bottom is traced into progressive migrants. they would have voted for dhs funding to increase funding at the border but instead they did not. >> sochi, take a listen to a

counter argument made by mark mckinnon, former advisor to both george w. bush and john mccain. >> desantis makes a really good point though that the burden should be shared. this is an issue where joe biden is playing defense, he really hasn't done much proactively. i don't think many people can cite, including the president himself what he has done on the border. why should the southern states bear that burden. they are bearing the burden of having to support of the resources in tax money coming across the border. he has a point. >> that was mark mckinnon. of course speaking with stephanie ruhle at the 11 hour. e what is the response to that? do you believe that the border is secure the way vice president joe talked about on meet the press or do you think the biden administration needs to address this more aggressively? >> i do think that the border is secure. the biden administration has

had thousands of individuals within the dhs who are working on the border daily trying to deal with this issue. the interesting part of this is, governor desantis, remember, he chartered flight from texas. it wasn't even from florida. it is unclear exactly why he did that. the reality is there is a general operation about the border. there has been for decades. both sides, republicans and democrats have talked about how the current system is not working. it is broken. instead of trying to fix it, they continue to politicize it. while i do agree there is frustration on both sides, republicans just like to talk about the border. they don't like to actually do anything about it. on the other hand you do have the biden administration who said, we can fix this. you need to work with me in order to do that. both on the asylum process and on passing legislation to reform our system. republicans will not come to the table on this issue. >> so she henhouse a, thank you

very much for being with us today. now we have breaking news, brand-new video of hurricane fiona bearing down on puerto rico. look at the winds! picking up, more than half 1 million people are not without power. this is a slow-moving storm, it is forecast to develop even further becoming the atlantic's first major hurricane of the year. nbc news is in ponce, puerto rico. george, can you give us an update? >> andrea, andrea, can you hear me? the intensity of the storm is picking up by the hour! it is now a category one hurricane. you can see the intensity of these winds now blowing the palm trees swaying! the gusts of winds now reported somewhere between 70, 80, 90 miles per hour. the auction behind me churning, waves between six and seven feet! that is only expected to increase i'm gonna try to give

you a better look here at what we are looking at. these gusts of winds almost push me from one side of the room to the next. take a look here, again. you can see some of the pooling in these areas. that is a big concern across the island. deadly flash flooding and mudslides. not to mention, andrea, the fragile power grid. we are starting to hear reports of massive outages across the island. the fifth year anniversary of maria's coming up. we know that this power grid is very fragile. this storm, this hurricane putting that jury to the test. the governor here urging people to hunker down, stay inside. people, for the most parts, have been heeding that warning from officials. right now no flights coming in and out of this airport, sand won airport. it has been shut down as a precaution. all government offices also closed. there will be no class tomorrow as hurricane fiona. barrels through puerto rico.

right now there is talk that this storm could have a lasting impact. not just through tonight but also into tomorrow and tuesday. again, petitions here on the island on -- i should share that this is considered a deadly storm. it is being classified deadly because of a death in the french island of guadeloupe. people here hunkering down. officials hoping to avoid any casualties. we will continue to monitor conditions as they continue to deteriorate. andrea? >> thank you george solis in puerto rico. now the economy, in the coming week the federal reserve is raise -- interest rates for the fourth time this year. it is just the latest measure in the fight to bring inflation under control as consumers are getting squeezed at the grocery store. the housing market, and beyond. scott cohn joins us from sunnyvale california. just how much are americans feeling the pinch which is becoming a big political issue

as our polls show. >> it is a big political issue. it is a big pocket bushel. you definitely feel it when you come here to the supermarket. prices are way up. the thinking winds that maybe the worst of inflation would be over. we found that no, it is not the case after the august consumer price index came out this past week. up more than 8% now since last year. it is slowing a little bit. we are seeing some decline. that is good. but within that index you can see some really eye popping increases particularly when it comes to your food bill. 40% increase in the price of eggs familiar go. partially due to an outbreak of avian flu. the storm manage that may also affect your thanksgiving turkey. start to plan ahead for that. then there is the housing market which is typically the first to feel some of the effects of big economic changes. 30 year mortgage rates topping 6% this past week so the first

time since 2008. that is twice what they were last year. it wipes out the effect of some prices starting to moderate. still, the median home price now nationwide is up above 11% over the past year. you are still looking at a 7% increase. you talk to a mother donny there is a team here in silicon valley there are two different generations of perspective each in their own way trying to take this in stride. . >> i sometimes say it's more like surfing than walking. you're not just putting one foot in front of the other. you have to roll with whatever is coming at you. that barr is always in flux. >> i feel the same. you can't really predict anything. you never know when something is going to happen to the stock market or the industry here. who knows, another pandemic. hopefully not but that kind of thing all influence these

markets as well as others. >> so the federal reserve meets again for a two-day meeting this coming week they are widely expected to raise interest rates, perhaps at least three quarters of a point. as they try to push the brakes a little harder on this economy without throwing us through the windshield. >> scott cohn, thank you very much. of just looking behind me because there is a globe behind buckingham palace. as you look now you can see the extraordinary sunset. the ring of a sunset behind, a beautiful image. buckingham palace, that does it for this edition of alex witt reports. there is a rainbow as well. i am andrea mitchell in london. i will see you here again tomorrow at noon eastern turn easter, and my friend yasmin between continues our coverage of the preparations for queen elizabeth funeral. take a look at the rainbow near the london eye.

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