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protect raise up and majorities in both the house and senate. republicans are scheming on how to take at least one of those chambers. taking advantage of these trends that tens of favor the opposition party in the midterms. but brand new polling, from nbc, finds democrats tied with republicans and congressional preference. driven in large part by voter disapproval over the reversal of roe versus wade. president biden's approval rating is at its highest mark in the year. and donald trump's approval rating is at its lowest mark in more than a year. still a red flag for democrats on -- polling showing that americans favor the party on abortion and health care, by giving republicans all-time high marks
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on the economy, crime, and immigration. the latter issue having been ghoulish really exploited, this week, by the gop governor of texas, florida, and arizona. they're forced relocation of hispanic migrants from red states to liberal cities, horrifying critics on the left while right wing media is tearing the cruelty and claiming of course it is the presidents fault. how do democrats sling mud on their own? and how did they sling mud of their own while staying out of the muck themselves? with just weeks left before the election day, that is the big question tonight on politics nation. and later, i will dig into the far storms around in the owner of the nba's phoenix suns as the league weighs how to react
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to robert soldiers allegedly racist and sexist conduct over the past year. player, advocates, and corporate sponsors are calling for solder to give the team up or else. you won't want to miss my take on the controversy. coming up shortly. but first, joining me now is congress woman joyce beatty, the democrat of ohio is the chair of the congressional black caucus. congresswoman, today, let's go right to it. n, today, let's go right to it. today works 50 days out from election day. we have new polling from nbc news. we find democrats in a stronger position than we expected only months ago. the -- president biden's approval rating is at 4.5%. a three point bump in the last month. the disapproval rating has dropped by three points to 42%.
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americans are evenly split over who they want to see in control of congress. 46% for democrats, 46% for republicans, and the country trusts democrats more on health care, education, and of course, abortion rights after the reversal of roe. still, on the economy, crime, and immigration, republicans appear to have massive leads going into november. do democrats need to expand their message, or stick with what appears to be working with just seven weeks left, congresswoman? >> well, thank you, first. i think our message is working. because we put people over politics. and you were dead on. when we look at the numbers, when we look at the number of women, the increased number of women who have registered to vote, and will be voting for
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the number of democrats because of roe v. wade. when you look at what we have done in the course of the past year, when we talk about everything from bipartisan infrastructure, the american rescue plan. when we look at the new inflation reduction act. what we are seeing is americans realizing that it is democrats that are making their lives better. whether that is health care, whether that is education, and i will also say that we are doing a better job, when you talk about keeping our communities safer. i think the american citizens understand that there is a lot of theatrics with the republicans. what they've been doing in the past weeks and months speaks to their being nervous but the real reality that democrats are going to hold the majority in the house. and we are looking great in the senate, as well. yes, we have a razor-thin margin, but that's why the congressional black caucus has
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been continuing to make a difference, fighting hard, writing legislation, and going back home in our communities. standing with the people, and getting people registered to vote. >> they are talking about going back home into our community. donald trump was in your state last night, congresswoman. stomping for his pick in -- in addition to repeatedly suggesting that migrants are essentially invading the country. he had this to say about what it's like to be persecuted in america. take a listen. >> for six straight years, i have been harassed, investigated, defamed, slandered, and persecuted like no other president and probably like no one in american history. the democrats and the deep state are a form of political repression. unlike anything our nation has
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ever seen. >> i mean, i will raise that to you, representative. as the chair of the congressional black caucus, how do you respond to trump's contention that no one has been persecuted and repressed like him in american history? >> i would say that we have never had an administrator or a president who has behaved and acted and set us back in american history. so anything that he has been persecuted, prosecuted for, he deserves it. he is the worst that we've ever seen, and he set this country back. and he is getting everything that he deserves. -- >> and when you think of -- and i don't have to tell you. but when you think of all of those in the civil rights movement and protest movement, many harassed and all kinds of things. they say he is the worst in american history. many of us have gone through
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things that -- well, that's another time, another show. but it's amazing, the statement in itself. acting like he is the victim, like he's a martyr. well, let me bring this to you, congresswoman. an ohio judge temporarily halted the states six-week abortion ban. clinics in ohio, able to provide abortions up to 20 weeks, while the two week restraining order is in place. your states democratic senate candidate has made abortion a central issue in this very close race against -- who said this on a podcast early this year. take a listen. >> let's say roe v. wade is overruled. ohio bans abortion in 2022. let's say 2024.
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and then every day, george soros sends a 7:47 to columbus to load up disproportionately black women to get them to go have abortions in california. of course, the left will celebrate this as a victory for diversity. if that happens, do you need some federal response to prevent it from happening? because it's really creepy. and i am pretty sympathetic to that, actually. so hopefully, we get to a point where ohio bans abortion and the george soros's of the world respected. >> soros is a plague on black women. but apart from the casual racism antisemitism in vance's message, how do you respond to what you are states men is saying, as the lives of ohio women, black women specifically, hang in the balance? >> i think that what we have to do is make sure that we get women out to vote. because we know how it will affect black women, and that's
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why the congressional black caucus has been out front on this issue, and also, that's why we have more black female candidates than we've had in history. i think when we listen to j.d. vance, he speaks for all of his republican colleagues who agree with him. and we have a candidate that is standing with black women. because he understands what will happen if we don't turn around what is happening not in ohio. we looked at kansas, and what they have been able to do. and having a more women register. we also look to michigan, and wisconsin, and how their numbers have increased for more women getting registered. and i can tell you, we also have some female candidates in ohio who are doing quite well. we are hoping that way pick up an open seat in ohio, someone who has been out in the forefront, standing up with me for women and other women across the state. we understand what is at risk for us as black women. we know our history, we know
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what happens when we have republicans and others like the candidate for senate talking about reversing roe v. wade, taking abortions away no matter what. abortionsremember, i'm from the where the ten-year-old had to go to indiana to have a safe procedure to abort a child, because of her young age. so we are all in on this now. we are going to be out there, in the fight. and we were in there before the dog's decision. we understand the risk. and that's why we need to make sure we look at the judicial candidates and that we vote for traditional candidate to stand with us. >> you have to vote the whole take it, no doubt about it. vote all the way down to the bottom. thank you, madam chairman. joining me now is minnesota tierney general, keith ellison. thank you for coming on today. on thursday, i went to the
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white house, attorney general ellison. in my capacity as -- to attend a summit about the rise of hate based violence. president joe biden said america can't remain silent when it comes to combatting white supremacy and hate. according to police data compiled by the center for the study of hate and extremism, hate crimes in major u.s. cities rose again during the first half of 2022. after posting double digit increases over the past two years. you dealt with your fair of hate and discrimination, as you are the first muslim to serve in congress. and also, the first african american elected to congress for minnesota. do you believe the white house is taking effective measures to combat this crisis? >> i'm impressed with the response of the white house.
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i saw you and our friend jonathan greenblatt and others at the white house, taking it really seriously. raising the alarm on the threat of these terrorist acts that are based on peoples race and religion, their ethnic identity, their sexual orientation. they are busy, they are organizing, and we've got to stand against them. in minnesota, i remember when trump was talking about using anti asian language. we saw a rise in not just hate crimes, but also harassment. not just criminal conduct, but also threatening -- based on their asian background. and of course, in minnesota, we have a terrorist attack on a mosque that took place during the trump administration. he never said a single word about it.
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three people drove all the way up from illinois to bomb a mosque, and we got nothing from the president. those people who were convicted, and that's a good thing. but the bottom line is, we are in the middle of a real serious challenge. if i may say so, though, i think prosecutors like myself and police and fbi folks, they can investigate these things and prosecute them. at the end of the day, we are going to suppress hate in our congregations and our neighborhoods, in our communities, and by members like herself speaking out against it. >> ahead of the midterm election throughout the country, we have been seeing candidates who perpetrate former president donald trump's big lie. they are being nominated by republican voters in such key positions as governor, attorney general, secretary of state. these are positions that may have some say on the outcome of
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the next presidential race in 2024. from your experience, of holding the responsibility of an attorney general, can you speak to the importance of these offices that are up for grabs this november? >> let me just say, i spent 12 years in united states congress, and i can assure everybody that the action is in the state. i'm not saying congress isn't important, i spent time there with joyce beatty, your previous guest. but the state is where the voting is determined. the state is where the lives which congressional leaders and state leaders will be drawn. the state is where the action is. you've got to focus in on who your secretary of state's, your attorney general, and your governor. it is as important as any federal office and anybody in federal office will tell you that.
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the focus needs to be right there on the state level. as a matter of fact, i will remind everybody that in the last election, when trump was trying to cut down and throttle peoples vote by mail, it was the democratic attorney general who sued united states postal service and stopped them from undermining peoples vote by mail. >> and i'm talking about attorney generals. you ran for reelection yourself. and you successfully prosecuted derek chauvin and george floyd. you have long been an important voice on criminal justice issues in minneapolis. and very few prosecutors have been able to convict the police officer of murder for the killing of -- for killing someone on the job. you are one of those instances. you support a measure to overhaul the minneapolis police department. while you are a publican component seems to be eager to
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talk about local crime. now, if reelected as attorney general for a second term, how are you going to continue to address crime, police misconduct, and hate fueled violence in your state? >> well, people have a right to be safe. as attorney general, i took that responsibility seriously. i've prosecuted many criminals as attorney general, including people who were government officials who abused the rights of others like derek chauvin. and of course, hate criminals, as well. but there is more to the job than even that. we've done the job, which my opponent has never, ever, ever done. but we've also gone after the opioid manufacturers because we know that other drugs are fueling so much of the hardship people are facing. we also have done the job of going after people who are
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manufacturing and producing all these guns. we've had 200 mess shootings in the last 300 days. and myself, along with other attorneys in general, have lobbied the biden ministration to get rid of ghost guns. and we are working to defend the rules that make those guns subject to regulation in court. so i am going to continue to do the job that we do, defending people, protecting their rights both in the criminal justice field, but also in the field of housing, chemical dependency, and the proliferation of guns which is a real problem in every community. >> now, as you've been campaigning for reelection, he recently took a strong stance for abortion rights after touring a newly relocated abortion clinic that moved from a red state, north dakota, to across the river to minnesota.
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last month, you joint attorney generals from 19 other states to file a brief in federal court, challenging it touches -- it shouldn't have to comply with doctors who -- how would you protect abortion rights in minnesota? and also, of the residents in neighboring red states, if you are reelected? >> we'll, every attorney general has an important role to play in protecting the right to choose. we file amicus briefs in federal court, including united states supreme court. and also, the -- it is now an island in the midwest, along with illinois. they come here to seek a safe abortion. we will protect their rights to do show.
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it is legal to travel to minnesota, it is legal to get a safe abortion in minnesota. and if you find that you are suffering repercussions because of that lawful activity in minnesota, the minnesota general office will defend you, wherever you may be from. the fact is, we have stood with people who are pursuing their rights, and we continue to do so. and we will stand up wherever we can to make sure that abortion rights are safe and legal and protected in the state of minnesota. and we will advocate for them to be expanded in other places, which i think is very critical. because this really should be a federal right. you're right to exercise your right to privacy should not be based on the state you live in. it is a national right, and that is why i am running for reelection, because i want to make sure they are safe. >> all right, attorney general,
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i think you as always for coming on the show tonight. coming up, it is time to rise up and put a stop to racism and misogyny in the nba. from the basketball court to the owners sweet. and later, the january six committee might not be done yet. we've got the details on the possibility of an october surprise from the lawmakers investigating the insurrection. but first, my colleague richard -- with today's other top news stories. richard? >> some of the stories you are watching today, hurricane fiona in the southwestern coast of puerto rico. the governor is saying the electoral system is down. president joe biden approved an emergency declaration today. the kremlin widened its strikes on ukrainian civilian infrastructure in the past week. russian attacks in the eastern region has killed five civilians over the past day. several dozen residents --
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to see fans and corporations rise up and take a stand against bigotry in the nba. after reports surfaced about racism and misogyny from the phoenix suns owner, robert saba, in my capacity as the head of the national action at work. icelandic letter a couple months ago expressing concern over his behavior. the nba find saba $10 million
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for his action, and suspended him from the league for one year. which is progress, but i don't think it goes nearly far enough. neither do two of the most vocal leaders in the game. lebron james, and chris paul who plays on small buzz team. they are saying it was too lax, considering sub's use of the n-word, and his sexual comments to employees. on friday, paypal announced it would no longer sponsor the suns if soul but remained in charge. however, the suns other corporate sponsors, including footprint, verizon, coca-cola, and gatorade among others have not followed suit the phoenix suns have not commented about this situation to nbc. however, we have a pretty
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decent relationship with -- but i was surprised that he would come to such a soft and in my opinion, less than adequate decision. the board of governors should vote for sault buzzed removal from the league in recognition that his behavior does not represent the values of the nba. while i'm on the subject of professional basketball, i would be remiss if i didn't mention britney griner, who remains unjustly imprisoned in russia, even as the w nba holds its final tournament this weekend. on friday, president biden met with griner's wife and assistant paul wayland, who is also jailed in russia. they discussed the continuing commitment to bringing them home safely. three weeks ago, when i met with the president, -- he said he would continue to do
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all he could. the w nba have been vocal in their support of brittney griner, as well. but even as the season is coming to an end, we must not forget this promising and inspiring woman who is right now being used as a political pawn. both leagues will continue to use their global platform to use everything in their power to rectify this into injustice. we'll be right back. let's hear from simone. chuck, that's a club i want to join! i literally just said that. i like her better than you the new subway series. what's your pick? becoming a morning person starts the night before with new neuriva relax and sleep. it has l-theanine to help me relax from daily stress. plus, shoden ashwagandha for quality sleep. so i can wake up refreshed. neuriva: think bigger. my active psoriatic arthritis can slow me down. so i can wake up refreshed.
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rating is up three points from last month to 46%. also, the poll offers a deeper look into what is motivating voters in this midterm cycle. republicans are favored for their handling of border security, economy, immigration, and crime. meanwhile, voters are favoring the democratic party when it comes to handling issues of protecting democracy, education, abortion, and health care. are you concerned republican governor's recent efforts to transport migrants from the border to other states is a tactic to change the subject, getting into the election? >> well, i think it's more a tactic to try to keep the subject focused on the issues unless they are winning. i want to remind viewers that a few months ago, there weren't very many issues that democrats were leading on at all. before the overturning of roe,
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and before donald trump re-emerged as a prominent figure, primarily following the raid at mar-a-lago, democrats were losing really badly because republicans had basically run this campaign of anti wokeness. they were talking about banning books and parental rights. that was a very potent and effective message. it had done well for republicans in virginia, and they were going to nationalize that strategy. and what happened with roe and donald trump, it took the wind out of the sales on that. the fact that they are leading on any issue at this point is, i think, a victory for democrats. they need to hold that ground and play that up as much as possible. that's exactly what they have been doing, that's why you see a more vigorous combative joe biden taking on these particular issues. and republicans are basically trying to figure out, of the things they have left, can we really raise the profile of
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immigration? they are trying to press on the things they have left. >> on that note, donald trump held a rally in support of senator -- in youngstown, ohio. he spoke for nearly three hours but made no mention, not at all, of the migrants fights controversy that has been dominating right-wing media. do you think the former president is feeling upstaged by florida governor ron desantis? who has found a new way to fire up the conservative base, that has nothing to do with trump. >> well, if he's not worried about being upstaged, he certainly making sure he's not giving desantis more attention and praise for something that trump would have loved to have done. but certainly, i think that the rest of that should scare the heck out of every last american who believes in the
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constitution, and the equality of all americans before the courts and before justice. i would say that anything that makes ron desantis better -- that is an opportunity to -- >> you're a little choppy there. let me see if and get your sound fixed. but charles, let me go to you on this one. the president this week is expected to give a speech to the united nations, to urge support for ukrainian fighters. before turning to the midterms. in the meantime, biden issued a stern warning to putin this weekend. in case he is thinking of using chemical or nuclear weapons in ukraine, here is a clip of his interview in cbs. >> don't, don't, don't.
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will change the face of war unlike anything since world war ii. >> and the consequences of that will be what? what would be the u.s. response? >> you think i would tell you if i knew exactly what it would be? of course i'm not gonna tell you. it would be consequential. they be more of a pariah in the world and they ever have been. >> how much does biden's leadership abroad and -- how does that affect voters this november? >> i think biden has gotten a boost a little bit from americans seeing russia back on its heels a little bit. retreating in certain parts of ukraine as ukrainians advance. but this was a tricky thing all along. there were certain people, people who believed that this could pose a real threat to democracy in all parts of the world.
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they said yes, we must do everything we can. there are also people in the electorate who say, this is a whole lot of money. we keep sending this to ukraine, and there are needs here in america. these people are getting more skittish as the war is dragging on. you kept having new expenditures for the war. to see those expenditures payoff is really good for voters. it's reassuring. but biden will continue to come back to this. either the ukrainians will continue to make progress and don't want to brag about it, or the danger that still works out there is that putin is going to take the loss. he may become more desperate, and do something really rash. and then it puts biden in another precarious situation. what does the u.s. do in that circumstance? >> yeah. read, the stakes are growing for the january six committee members to finish this investigation. axios reports the committee
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plans to hold at least one more year and late this month, and released early findings and recommendations before the midterm elections. the panel claims the scheduling plans are not political. are they trying to engineer an october surprise to influence the midterms? [inaudible] your sound is very choppy. i cannot hear you, read. let me pose the same question to you, ben charles. >> well, listen. there is no way to take politics out of the january six investigation. there is a political body that is investigating that the republicans chose not to put a lot of members on. there's two republicans on the committee, most of these are democrats. so if republicans retake the house, they're going to scrap the committee immediately. so yes, the democrats on the committee are trying to rush to
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get their work done, and they want to make their work matter. the way to make their work matter the most is to underscore how much of a threat to democracy the republicans have been. and i think that is going to be what they're going to be focused on. >> all right charles blow, reed gallant. i'm sorry about the sound with you, read. but thank you both for being on. after the break, college enrollment is down overall. but it's a whole different story when it comes to hbcus. we will tell you about it next. fastest 5g network. but, they don't. they only cover select cities with 5g. so, for me and the hundreds of drivers in my fleet, staying connected, cutting downtime, and delivering on time depends on t-mobile 5g. and with coverage of over 96% of interstate highway miles, they've got us covered. (vo) unconventional thinking delivers four times the 5g coverage of verizon. and it's ready right now.
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higher education are still being felt. universities have reported historically low enrollment numbers. overall, college enrollment is down nearly 10% in the last two years. but there is one exception to the drop off. historically black colleges and universities have seen a applications. boosted as high as 60% for some schools. still, the enrollment surge has not necessarily translated into a federal and state resources to keep pace with needs. just one area black colleges continue to struggle, compared to their predominantly white
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counterparts. joining me now is rodriguez -- senior vice president of government and public policy for the united negro college fund. mr. marie, we appreciate you joining us tonight. let me start off with some numbers. according to the national center for education statistics, the percentage of students enrolled hbcus rose from 19% to 1976 to 8% in 2014. increasing to 9% in 2020. then a largely in the last two years, black colleges have reported record applications and endowments, and enrollment numbers. what are the driving factors there that he would attribute to this surge? while enrollment is down overall nation wide, the surgeon hbcus? >> first of all, thanks for
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having me on this evening. i think what you see is a continuum of issues. you can start back in the summer of racial reckoning which was happening during a pandemic, which was really a twin damac for african americans. it was not just the health issues going on with coronavirus, but in addition to that, we also saw african americans moving -- in a way that has never been shown because of the killings of george floyd and breonna taylor, and so many other names that we know. and you found that black students want to find their home. they will be a real person. and it's an environment just for them. so hbcu enrollment is on the move, but there is so many other issues that still have to be solved because the students
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who are choosing these colleges and universities will find a home that best suits them. >> now, mr. marie, black campuses started college today. they were a toddler when barack obama became our first black president. they were teenagers, watching the protests after george floyd. what if any impact would you say those events have had on enrollment? >> huge. the presidency of barack obama, and you had to the presidency of kamala harris. you add to it u.s. senators, like we had in the state of georgia with raphael warnock. and you see african americans seeing themselves in these very public figures. and they are not just seeing themselves, but they are seeing themselves in people who went to hbcus, that are completely tearing down the overarching stereotype that you had to go to an iv to get to where you want to go.
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you can go to the institution that is best suited for you, get an education that allows you to be comfortable in those formative years. and that allows you to be a world changer. i tell people all the time, i don't know lot of people with national holidays named after them, but i happened to go to a college where one of my alumnus had one of those. >> i assume you're talking about morehouse college and dr. martin luther king. >> yes, indeed. >> i will be with you guys next month. hbcus have been historically underfunded compared to predominantly white institutions. but along with the surge in enrollment over the last few years, there is been a surge in charitable giving, the likes of which many black colleges have never seen. according to we are hbcus, the nonprofit group attracts donations to black colleges, about a third of the nation's
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170 historically black colleges received their largest gifts ever between july 2020 and december 2021. the trend that schools are, of course, trying to continue as best they can in 2022, that is private funding mr. marie. in terms of federal funding, how are black colleges doing under the biden administration in your view? out of time, but i want you to respond to that. >> i'll tell you that president biden is probably the best president ever for hbcus. most presidents that they sent to congress flatlined the amount of money that hbcus got the previous year. they recommend that same number to congress next year. this is the first president, in my lifetime, that recommends increases every year for hbcus. every single one of them has
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passed pieces of legislation. congress has had other difficulties with passing it. but the fact that the president put hbcus right in the middle of the american rescue plan, put hbcus right in the middle of his infrastructure plan, when he introduced it. he put it right in the middle of everything that he has been doing, including build back better, which has turned into the inflation reduction act. this shows a president who views these institutions not as a fringe issue, but as something central to the american ideal. >> all right, thank you. more politics nation ahead. but first, i want to remind you about a brand-new op-ed i have written on msnbc.com. it is on filip personnel, a new jersey teenager killed by police in 1990. and how his death helped begin the movement against police violence. tonight, watch model america on msnbc. this documentary goes deeper
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