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hurricane fiona continues its dangerous march forth as it churns past bermuda. right behind fiona is a storm that could become a major concern next week. we've got an update on all of that for you ahead. and the pressure on former president trump is mounting on multiple fronts. now the special master, who trump himself requested to review material seized from mar-a-lago is again putting his legal team on the spot giving the trump team until next friday to back up trump's name the fbi planted evidence during search of his private estate last month. we begin this hour with the growing backlash to russia's first draft since world war ii. joining me now, jay gray from kyiv, ukraine, also former u.s. ambassador to ukraine william taylor.

he's vice president of russia and europe at the u.s. institute of peace. welcome all of you. jay, to you first. we've seeing these emotional images from russia. families are parting, they're drafting men, boarding buses, heading to face a war and potentially fight in a war with these draft papers they've received. what's been the reaction there other than the heartbreak you're witnessing? >> in ukraine, alex, the reaction has been clearly it's evidenced that the russian people don't support this mobilization or the war. they also say here in kyiv that it's a sign of desperation and speaks to evidence that the counteroffensive is working and it's something they say that will bolster their efforts on the front line as that continues. it speaks to russian troop losses as well. but there's been a unique strategy from kyiv. they also have used this opportunity to really reach out not only to those soldiers, but

those russian soldiers on the ground saying there's a way out of this. you can lay down your arms, surrender, you will be treated peacefully and that when the war ends, that you will have the opportunity to perhaps not return to russia if that's your choice. they're really trying to seize on the momentum from what's happening there in russia and reach those troops already on the ground here. >> interesting to see how effective that might be ultimately, jay. but, general, to you, sir, now. they said the draft would be limited to those with combat experience. however, the "new york times" reports something otherwise, that being a woman who tells "the times" that her husband received a summons to an urgent 4:00 a.m. meeting where it was announced that a train had been organized to bring men to the city. her husband was not in the reserve and has never served. if russia is drafting everyday citizens now, what does that tell you about the state of

putin's war? >> the state of putin's war is increasingly, i believe, desperate, for the regime and existential for vladimir putin. this is different than the protests after the initial invasion in february. they cracked down and kind of dissipated in the narrative there. this is dangerous to the regime. putin, i think, feels the walls coming around him. he has nowhere to go. the mandatory drafts -- look at the footage. i ask your viewers to look at the footage. a lot of these guys aren't 18 and 24 years old, they're in their 30s and 40s. this is unpopular and this is going to spread and it's not just in siberia where a lot of

the type of troops went in, this is also mainstream russian cities, in moscow, st. petersburg and it is shaking i think the foundations of the regime, of the military, i think they're unhappy, and i think putin is extremely worried. >> general, to your point, the man was 38 years old and never served in the military. there are reports of up to 1300 people detained. could this be an inflection point for putin's leadership? >> alex, it certainly could. he has problems on both sides. he has problems that you've described of people opposing the war because they don't want to go to the war. they don't want their fathers and brothers to go. that's part of the protest. but on the other side, he's got right-wing nationalists who are angry with him, with president putin, for not going harder, for not killing more ukrainians, for

not calling up more of the draft, not going broader. so president putin has a real problem on his hands domestically. and as you've pointed out earlier, he's got a real problem in ukraine. the ukrainian military is routing the russian forces. there's nothing going right for president putin at this point. >> however, jay, let's get to what's happening today with russia staging the referendum votes that it at least partially controls -- two are partial and two are total at this point. this ballot has one question, do you wish to secede from ukraine? what are you hearing about this vote? >> let's talk about the process, first, they set up makeshift polling sites but most of the

ballots are being delivered to the russian soldiers to the homes of those who live in the region. that may speak to the validity of the election process. what you hear in ukraine is that this is a sham election, that it's illegal and has no standing that it won't be recognized. that's echoed by world leaders across the west. ukraine says it will not do anything to slow their counteroffensive. that they're going to continue to push forward, of course, russia has said that once this vote is completed and surprisingly -- or perhaps not, they feel pretty confident in the results, any attack on those occupied areas would be an attack on russia itself and could see stepped-up response. ukraine saying, no, that we don't buy what these elections are about and that we're not going to stop pushing to retake our territory. >> a couple points i want to break down. first one with you, ambassador. with all of these people outside of the region that we're talking about talking the referendums

coercion, it's gone that far, if the staged votes go the way crimea's did which is expected, whether truthfully, legally or not, what resource does the international community have if they indeed are deemed part of the russian federation? >> we will ignore it. these are meaningless votes as you've pointed out. these are designed to boost president putin's standing and his rational within russia. these are not designed to convince ukrainians or europeans or americans. these are designed to convince russians that the russians now control this part of the -- of ukrainian territory. the problem, of course, is they don't even control the parts of ukrainian territory that they're having these votes in.

so there already are ukrainian military in these regions, in zaporizhzhia and kherson and in lieu -- that the russians don't control. this will have no effect, no legal effect, no political effect, this is designed for russia, for mr. pursuant to say -- mr. putin toll say he can do more this is a meaningless move. >> this draft, it's calling up ordinary citizens. it's not soldiers who will now be making their way to the war front. with the u.n. commission of inquiry, it came to this conclusion this morning. let's take a listen to what was said, sir. >> we have visited 27 towns and settlements and has interviewed more than 150 victims and

witnesses. we have inspected sites of destruction, graves, places of detention and torture. based on the evidence gathered by the commission, it has concluded that war crimes have been committed in ukraine. >> 27 towns, 150 eyewitnesses testifying, if you will, giving the truth of what they have seen, what do you make of this, sir, especially after lavrov's quick exit? >> the news is abysmal for russia and they can't -- they can't try to push it off on anything on the ukrainians or anything else. in the world stage at the u.n. where russia has a fair amount of influence in the security council, even china and india and other countries have kind of distanced themselves. now this discredits the russians, but in the kremlin, it will make -- it will make some

of the leadership, including putin even more desperate because the fact that the u.n., the main international body in which it plays has now basically condemned russia. so on the military front, on the political front, on the diplomatic front, on the human front, in russia the narrative isn't working. and now the ukrainians are pushing, they're resurgent, and i think that the referendum, the four of them will be seen for what they are and even the russians now will -- many of them will see that as just -- as just smoke and mirrors. no, the regime has no legitimacy. he claims it's in a defensive war but look at the mess that he has left and the ongoing situation. those four republics -- those

four separate provinces -- yeah, they can claim it, but i don't think it washes anywhere, even in russia. >> ambassador, final question to you, sir, and if you can give me a quick answer that would be appreciated. with "the washington post" report that the u.s. has been sending private messages to russia for months warning against using nuclear power, given putin's threat this week, what's your read on how those warnings have been received? >> i'm sure that that message has been received by the russians. the russians remember what president biden said before they invaded. that is president biden told president putin that the sanctions and the other military actions would be unlike anything he had seen and president biden delivered. to president putin has been hearing these messages directly about not to use nuclear weapons and if he does, the consequences will be severe. he will be listening to that this time. >> we appreciated listening to the three of you.

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this morning, a new deadline for the trump legal team and more pressure for the former president. the special master is now asking his team to backup a particularly bold and unfounded allegation that the fbi planted evidence during the august 8th search of his florida home. all this comes as trump's legal expenses are starting to pile up. joining us now, vaughn hillyard in north carolina ahead of a trump rally later today, ken dilanian, also glen kirshner. this is more pressure from the special master. so what kind of position does this request put them in and is there any reason to think they

can actually backup these claims the fbi planted evidence? >> no reason that we've seen, alex, but they now have the chance to do that. it's really put up or shut up time. the special master, you're right, the trump team fought so hard to get in place, has stuck it to them here. he's responding to his job, which is judge eileen cannon told him he needs to get an accurate accounting of all the materials seized in mar-a-lago. but he's asked the trump team to tell -- let him know if there are any items that the fbi says they have, that the trump team contends were not at mar-a-lago, ie, the evidence that was planted. he doesn't say that explicitly. trump's lawyers and trump himself have been saying and intimating that somehow the fbi planted evidence. they've never made that allegation inside court because when you go into court and say something like that, you have to back it up or there are

professional consequences. what judge dearie has done here is given the trump team a deadline to speak now or forever hold their piece. if they don't make an allegation in this form, it would be difficult to do it at another point. >> they have until monday to say yes, but they put out there this is what we've confirmed and donald trump's team has until the following friif trump and hk any of this up, what are the consequences as this moves forward? >> it's becoming clear, alex that the trump team may have bit off more that it can chew, one, that there be a special master, and, two, that the special master be judge dearie because judge dearie is doing exactly what a professional, experienced, diligent judge would be doing. he's saying, listen, you asked me to review these materials for possible privilege.

i'm ordering you to provide answers so i can go about my review in an informed way. and the first thing he asked for, he said, i need you to tell me what documents, if any, donald trump declassified. much to my surprise, team trump came back with, no, judge dearie, we're not going to do that and they said they're declining to do it because it could hurt their ability to defend their client if he has indicted in the future? that's pretty staggering. and now we have a second order from judge dearie saying you need to tell me what the fbi planted, what you're claiming the fbi planted. because i don't have to review those documents for any privilege because you're claiming you didn't have them. they can't answer that question either. so now i think they've put themselves in a real trick bag. >> can i ask you, glen, quickly on this, do you think that the trump team miscalculated this? because their premise to constantly delay, delay, delay, that has been a legal tactic for

them for decades essentially with donald trump. just put it off and see what happens. this has happened pretty quickly. was this a bad move? >> it looks like it was a bad move. the federal judiciary, the adults are back in the room after this has been taken away from judge cannon. the three-judge panel that reversed judge cannon, judge dearie is the adult in the room, and that's the last thing donald trump wants. >> so, vaughn, trump will be rallying where you are later today but just this morning we learned some of his allies are forming a new superpac and this will serve as his main political apparatus this year and beyond. what could that mean especially as he's weighing a 2020 presidential run? >> reporter: he's using his political apparatus to continue to bear hug republican candidates around the country by holding these rallies. he was with mehmet oz earlier

this month and in ohio with jd vance, he's then going to be michigan next week with their gubernatorial candidate. he's continuing to use the power and base of support that he has continued to hold favor with around the country despite these numerous investigations into him to hold on to not only loyalty from supporters and these candidates but also to continue to hold himself up as the preeminent power figure in this republican party -- >> let me ask real quick. when he goes to these rallies, how much time does he spend actually supporting the candidate for whom he's there to bear hug, and how much time does he spend talking about himself and his grievances? >> reporter: i haven't done the calculator. but i think 90% of the time he's talking about himself. but he does make it a tradition to bring each of these candidates up on stage with

them. they take the microphone. therefore, everybody sees that that candidate is standing alongside of him. the big question is, how much does he really care about these candidates? i think that's where the superpac comes into the equation. he has $92 million in the bank in his current leadership pac. now this will give them the leeway to spend that $92 million on these races, the senate republican candidates, these republican gubernatorial candidates. the question is, how much money is he willing to spend? he has yet to even spend $5 million of that money so far in 2022 to help aid the causes of those types of candidates, but the question here is, will he go any further besides showing up for rallies and standing alongside of them, where he put his money where his mouth is and help them in the closing days. >> i have one last question.

it's legal. it goes to glen. between the federal code and the constitution, there are a number of ways to be banned from holding federal office. one is engaging in insurrection. the other one is if someone improperly removes government documents. donald trump has been accused of both. when we talk about his legal peril, glen, in relation to a possible to a 2024 run, could any of this keep him out of running? >> in theory, yes. and i think the most likely vehicle to prevent him from holding public office in the future is if he is convicted of one of the federal crimes that parties with its the authorized possible punishment of a ban from federal office. and there are a number of federal statutes on the book. i think the 14th amendment is a less likely candidate because it's such uncharted territory

and it would involve civil litigation. if he's charged with and convicted of a federal felony that carries that authorized punishment, a ban from future federal office, that's the most likely vehicle. >> all right. thank you for answering that question. appreciate it. vaughn, ken, glen. coming up next, bermuda pummelled by hurricane fiona this morning. we have a report from the island. the new storm threats to the u.s. gulf coast. woman, life, freedom, that is the slogan of women marching in the streets of iran after the death of a 22-year-old woman in the custody of the morality police. an update on these marches when we come back. these marches whe we come back this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies,

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from bermuda as well as bill karins. morgan, how are the locals fairing where you are? >> alex, what a difference a few hours makes. we had the last bands of fiona making their way through here early this morning and i have to tell you, that it is a night-and-day difference. the sun has come back out, and the clouds are dissipating. that was a far cry from what we witnessed firsthand. we have video of what bermuda experienced in this sideswipe that fiona provided it overnight. powerful winds, we had one gust upwards of 90 miles per hour recorded on the west part of the island here. we had drenching rain as well and we did witness some of that storm surge come onto some of the low-lying areas here and that doesn't prove to be a problem throughout today. we do have outrages that are ongoing and i do want to show you some really remarkable video, alex, this was inside

fiona as it churned through the atlantic. this was taken to what they call the sail drone, a camera that sits on top of the water. what you're witnessing, 50 foot waves, 100-mile-per-hour wind gusts there, category four storm made its way north. when it did glance bermuda, it was a category three. even though it was 100 miles away, we saw its sheer power in the wind-whipped areas that we passed through today, power poles were snapped. we know that crews are working as fast they can to restore power. as of right now, at last check, a third of the island still in the dark. alex? >> that is a problem. certainly skies look a little better than they did. that sail camera extraordinary. it's like those hurricane hunters to get in the middle of an eye of the storm. bill, as fiona is heading north

toward canada now what and where is the next big storm heading for the east coast? >> alex, we're looking at the equivalent of two major hurricanes making landfall in five days. we're looking at tonight and tomorrow morning, nova scotia and newfoundland being devastated by fiona and we're calling for a major hurricane to hit southwest florida on tuesday or wednesday of next week. two historic weather events are about to take place as our very active september is now in full force in the peak month of hurricane season. let me give you the update on tropical depression nine. it's not a named system yet. it's going to be the "h" storm or the "i." it's moving to the northwest at 14. it's past puerto rico. it's going to clip past jamaica, it looks like, and then it's going to intensify. all day sunday and all day

monday, we're going to be watching this storm with the possibility of rapid intensification from a tropical storm all the way up to a major hurricane by the time we get through tuesday night and wednesday morning. now the cone of uncertainty is over towards freeport and the bahamas and the eastern gulf of mexico. we still have wiggle room here. now is the time we're going to have to get preparations made there in florida this weekend for that storm. alex, our computer models are in good agreement that this one is not going to miss the sunshine state. this will be the first big storm threat for the peninsula since irma in 2017. >> wow, i'm glad we're getting a five-day heads-up so people can prepare properly. thank you both so much. let's go now to the mass protests in iran. the iranian army has issued its strongest warning yet as the unrest interests its seventh day saying it will confront the enemies to ensure security. protests erupted last week after a 22-year-old woman died in iran's morality police custody

for violating the strict islamic dress code. here's more from tehran. >> reporter: protests across iranian are not showing any signs of showing will women leading the charge. the government has been trying to crack down both on the streets and online, throttling the internet and blocking access to social media apps. and this shift in the islamic republic was sparked by the death of a young woman. >> for a seventh straight day, violent protests erupting across iran sparked by the death of a 22-year-old woman after she was arrested for violating the country's strictly enforced islamic dress code. mahsa amini was vacationing in tehran when she was picked butty authorities who felt the pants she was wearing were too tight. within hours of being taken into custody she was dead.

they say her death is being investigated. and the broadcaster releasing video that they claim that shows amini collapsing in custody but it's unclear what happened beforehand. it touched a raw nerve in the country and protestors took to the street despite brutal crackdowns and arrests. since 1979 it's been mandatory for women in iran to wear head scarves in iran or face jail time. in cities across the country, women have been burning their head scarves in protest. in another act of resistance, some women have cut their hair in public with large crowds cheering them on. a taboo act of defiance that would have been unimaginable weeks ago. >> people are frustrated, they are angry. this is significant that this is happening at this time. >> reporter: a woman's movement not seen in iran since the

islamic revolution four decades ago. their slogan, woman, life, freedom, echoing through streets nationwide. in response, police have beaten protestors with clubs and fired live rounds. today state media is saying 26 people are being killed since the unrest began last week. a large cross-section of people have been participating in the protests, but at the forefront, young women who feel the most suffocated here, it's unclear how or when this will end. but the security apparatus and the judiciary have made it clear they want to end this uprising immediately. >> the ruling establishment want to put an end to these protests as quick as possible. they're calling for they're supporters to come out in the street and show allegiance to the islamic republic. they're threatening a total internet blackout, an ominous sign of what may come in order for them to deal with this rolling crackdown and put an end

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of supreme court justice clarence thomas. allie raffa has more for us. >> reporter: you and i have spoken for months about the committee's efforts to get this interview with ginni thomas. now that we know there was a deal struck between her and her legal team and the committee for an interview in the coming weeks, is what sources are telling us, i asked members yesterday whether they could provide more clarity on that, whether there's a chance her interview could be referenced in wednesday's hearing, whether she could be a witness at that hearing. the chairman told me there's, quote, no real rush to do it, to interview her before the hearing. and that the committee still hasn't decided whether they'll include witnesses like they have if past hearings. regardless of whether we see or hear this testimony from ginni thomas, the significance of this deal for her to come forward

voluntarily is not lost on the members. listen to what jamie raskin told me yesterday. >> we think because she was involved in helping organize and promote january 6th and individuals coming to the capitol. >> i have no doubt she will be a significant part of the report and i hope that at least some of what we got from her will end up in this hearing. >> reporter: raskin talking about a hearing on that final report, the committee will eventually release. there's so many different aspects of what she could possibly provide to the committee. so many things she has firsthand knowledge of that they're likely to ask her about after this hearing and as they prepare to release that final report in the next few months. >> back to appointment television on wednesday with that hearing. thank you so much. this morning we're keeping an eye on the uneasy markets and right now just two hours and change into the trading day, 520

points down. it dropped below the 30,000 mark now. this morning it's on pace for a losing week over fears the federal reserve's aggressive interest rate hikes to tame inflation could lead to a recession. that's been a big question. we're going to pose that right now to host of npr's "full disclosure". four days in a row the dow is in the red. are investors worried? should they be worried especially after the central bank said they believe the uk may be in a recession. >> i think the fed giveth and taketh away. we're used to them cutting rates every time there's a rolling crisis and i think the problem right now is there just isn't an institutional or main street memory of capitol high inflation. it seems to have been something that afflicted us in the carter, early reagan years, paul volker breaking the back of inflation. my dad tells me stories about

it. bond traders who are greenhorns and young people who just experienced bull markets and bonds and stocks for the past 40 years don't have a memory of it. when you see mortgage rates shoot up, when you see the stock market fall and the fed has to keep hiking and hiking and hiking, certainly you're going to sell first and ask questions later. >> there's an economist and this is at the investment bank piper sandler who says that the fed's forecast is an implicit admission that a recession is likely unless something extraordinary happens. do you agree? >> i agree. and the fed is losing credibility in realtime because this time last year, what were they saying? it's transitory? we have this 2% inflation which seems theoretical pie in the sky when we're dealing with 8, 9% inflation. people are feeling it at the store. many things are out of the fed's control. but does the fed really have

credibility? if they knock the economy into a deep recession, you have to really wonder. and the bond market, people are not used to losing money in bonds. they certainly haven't for 40 years. but here's the deal, the u.s. is not alone in doing this. central banks in countries across asia and europe, they've followed suit now raising their rates. what consequences could come from all of these global banks raising rates rapidly like this? >> i think it's a global tightening. if you don't have it that way, the dollar is going to get strong and money is going to -- when you could get 4.5% on a two-year treasury, the brits -- the brits are suffering economic hardship right now. they're in poor position to raise interest rates. you can't really get away with exporting inflation. we're all connected. this is not like the world of 40 years ago. it's not like the world of 30

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wrapped up in the systemic's pregs. and so i wanted to talk with black voter respect young black people will how this issue is effecting them and here is what they had to say. growing up, jonah always knew he was going to college. >> everyone in my family on my mom's side, they all went to sutton. my dad and uncles all went to college. >> reporter: it is family tradition, but also so much more. for african-americans, higher education is a rebuke of a history that legally barred black folks from learning to read or write. let alone go to college. so jonah pursued two degrees, both from historically black colleges, but now a decade after graduating, jonah, who, woulds for a -- works for a nonprofit still owes $120,000 in student loans that he can't afford to pay especially as a new dad.

>> i'm looking at her and i'm like, man, she can be anything that she wants to be. and as soon as i said it to myself, i'm like, oh, man, can we afford to put her through college. >> reporter: because black students arrive on campus with less wealth than white peers, they tend to take out more and bigger loans for the same degrees and they will owe about $7400 more than their white counterparts at graduation. it is one reason jonah founded an organization that mobilizes black students especially on hbcu campuses around pivotal issues like canceling student loan debt. >> specifically for black people, it looks like modern day share cropping. we'll give you the opportunity to become something but in order for you do that, you got to borrow this from us and it will travel through the family for the rest of your time if you never pay us off. >> reporter: we visited north carolina central university, his alma mater, to talk to current

students like marquay who owes $38,000 and heavyn who owes $100,000. >> there wasn't a fund, but there wasn't any like, oh, i'm not going to help you pay for it. >> i wonder if this issue would make you change who you are voting for. >> it definitely will be a major factor in my decision, but there are other factors as well. >> reporter: president biden announced a student debt relief plan that the white house says could impact 43 million americans. and eliminate debt for 20 million people. >> it is about opportunity. it is about giving people a fair shot. >> reporter: it is the fulfillment of a campaign promise. but for these students, it is not enough. >> it is cute like banks, but what is next? because $20,000 on 100 is --

what's that doing? >> reporter: despite the heavy burden of student loan debt, these students are determined to pursue their dreams no matter what. and the one thing that stuck out to me is not just how much these young people owed, but it is a generational thing. some of their parents are still paying off their own student loans and now trying to help their own kids through school. >> it is a generational burden. as you've been doing this tour, are you hearing uniformly the very same complaints, the very same experiences, and how much if that is true does that add to the power of needing to take a look at this and deal with it? because it is across the board. >> reporter: one thing that i was talking to these young people, one thing that is uniform is their hope despite all the odds. and that there is a sense that there feels to be like there is an attack on all sides, whether student loan, whether criminal

justice issues, the environment, and the young people are trying to figure out a way to push back in a unified manner. these young people are talking to their friends, their families, and all of these issues are informing how they vote. so student loans certainly is a big issue, but when you think about jackson state with the water or the environment in florida, it feels like there is an attack on all fronts. >> the vote can do all the changes. thank you, trymaine, a great series. you can hear more of his podcast, it is called into america, available wherever you get your podcasts. that is a wrap for me. i'll see you saturday and sunday at noon eastern and i'll talk with peter baker about what you may not have heard from his new book. andrea mitchell reports starts next. drea mitchell reports stars next ♪ ♪

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