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hey, everybody. good to be with you. i'm yasmin vossoughian, in for katie tur, a lot happening right now. so, on wall street, stocks have taken yet another tumble, about to close out a brutal week, for the markets there, the dow dropping more than 600 points, it is a bear market territory, setting new low for the year, and we are going to talk more about the fed's effort to tackle inflation, amidst the fears of an impending recession in just a little bit. also, the former president is prepping for a rally right about now, north carolina tonight, despite the mounting legal woes that he is facing. we're going to have the latest on how he plans to spin the ongoing investigation to his base. we want to begin though with our top story, and major war in
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ukraine, looking to annex these four ukrainian regions some of which are only partially under the russian president's military control. the vote, which is largely seen as a sham, is illegal under ukrainian and international law as well. armed groups going door to door, as we speak, forcing participation by handing residents paper ballots so they vote on the spot. it is happening as the mass exodus of russian men fleeing putin's military draft intensifies, one way plane tickets sold out, anyone trying to leave by car or bus is being stalled at the border for hours. those who have not yet left are either bidding emotional goodbyes to their loved ones, or protesting russian officials. and have been quick to crack down on any push dallas back for those unwilling to serve. more than 1400 people were detained in 40 cities and some
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may be drafted following their arrest. in the evening address last night, president volodymyr zelenskyy urging those who defying the conscription to keep going, saying 55,000 russian soldiers have died so far in this year, if they don't want to be added to the list, run, fight back, or surrender. putin is framing this as a partial mobilization, saying it only impacts a small percentage of the population, who have had military experience about, 300,000 reservists. however multiple news outlets are reporting the real number could be triple that. and joining me now from kharkiv ukraine, erin mclaughlin and with me pentagon correspondent at "the new york times." erin, let me start with you there on the ground. bring us up to speed on what is happening there, specifically when it comes to this vote with these four regions. >> that's right, today was the first day of voting in four areas currently occupied by russian soldiers. and i was texting with a man who
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lives in one of the occupied regions, a ukrainian citizen, he was telling me that this is all happening with deep fear. he is feeling a fear so deep, within his bones, he said it is equivalent to a nuclear strike. that is how scared he is right now, because not only is he looking at the very real possibility that his home, his city could be annexed by russia, but also, what could happen if that does in fact become the case, if he in fact becomes a citizen of russia, the possibility that he also could be subject to the partial mobilization that president putin has announced and the prospect that he would then be forced to fight his own countrymen. he said he is absolutely terrified. in terms of the vote itself, he says he has seen mobile units out on the streets, russian soldiers, he said he saw one unit with a line of three women
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lining up to vote, and a box on the ground. that is the referendum he says in terms of logistics that he's seen so far. he has not seen soldiers going specifically door to door, but that has been reported in other occupied portions of ukraine. if this does happen, and russia does annex these areas, ukrainian officials tell me it will signify a new phase of this war, because constitutionally, at that point, the kremlin will be obligated to wage really a full scale war on ukraine, instead of this so-called special operation, which it has now, because in essence, in its eyes it would be defending a part of the russian federation, and ukrainian officials believe that what russian president vladimir putin is doing right now, is essentially burning all bridges behind him, to look as though he has no choice, that he is going for a full scale war, in order to pressure the west to back down on its support for ukraine, knowing that ukraine is
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wholly reliant on that support. >> what you make of this analysis? the idea of what president putin is actually doing here, by saying essentially, listen, once this becomes russian territory, we will then have to launch an all-out war, by the way fairly reminiscent of what we saw in 02014 with the referendum there and subsequent annexation of the crimean peninsula. >> he did do that in 2014 when he legally, and we should illegally, and we should keep use the word illegally because he did not legally an ex crimea and what he is attempting to do here now in clearson and donetsc and the south and the eastern part of the country, and the southern part of the country, is again, in another, you know, this is another power move by vladimir putin who is really in essence trying to re-write the facts that are on the ground.
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he is on the back foot, militarily. his military has fled their posts, and retreated in the northeast, where the ukrainian military has taken back some of their territory, around kharkiv, and in kherson, they're on the defensive, with the ukrainians on, pushing the southern offensive, so basically, what putin has done is he's invaded another country, a sovereign nation, he is -- that nation is defending its territory, and he, while launching his offensive, is now trying to say that the territory, that it definitely is being contested in that country, is now with this illegal referendum, is now russian. and what he's trying to do is send a message to the west, that if he says that these countries, that this region in the ukraine, that's being, that he's declaring to be russian now, as
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part of this referendum, he can turn to the west and say if you guys give weapons to ukraine, which is what the united states and nato is doing, you are attacking mother russia and you're attacking us. but a lot of this is putin re-writing truth as we know it. it is almost, it is quite similar to what we see donald trump doing, when he says, you know, that he won the election, it's like i'm going to tell you that the sky is green, and whether you say it is blue or not, it is green and there are consequences for you saying it is the sky is blue, it is a crazy analogy that i'm making but it is what putin is trying to do and the question becomes how does the west respond to this. i have not seen any indication that nato or the biden administration is going to, is going to be backing down. the biden administration is continuing to send weapons to ukraine, and they have not,
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while they put, they have put restrictions on the weapons, as far as some of the weapons, you know, like the attack, as far as not wanting them, ukrainian troops to be able to fire into what the west recognizes as russian territory, there's certainly not putting restrictions on the ukrainians firing these weapons into what we, what the west knows is ukrainian territory. >> one more thing before i let the two of you go, and i want to talk quickly about the reports we're hearing of russians fleeing russia, essentially while this draft is happening, right, this call for more military, and then also the protests that are happening throughout russia as well, early on in this war, and i've been speaking about this the last couple of days, there was a possible end game that if in fact his own people rose up. we know how that goes in autocratic regimes like russia, right? how seriously can we take what is happening in russia right now, especially when it comes to russians in that country, rising
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up, because of the continued efforts in ukraine? >> i think we take it seriously, but this is a small, you know, this is, we're just seeing a tip right now, it is certainly not enough numbers that vladimir putin at this point is, can see his government, but this could be the beginning. we don't know at this point. we certainly do know that, we see the lines, all the way, of the military-aged men, who are observers, who are fleeing, and we've seen video of, in some of these recruiting, not even recruiting, these draft offices, where there's a lot of conflict going on, between these draftees and russian military officials, so it's, i think we're, i think we don't know where this is going to lead, but it certainly, the reason why vladimir putin didn't want to do any kind of popular mobilization, because that means admitting to the
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russian people that this is not a special military operation. it's actually a war. >> erin mclaughlin, thank you. helene cooper, thank you as well. we want to bring in now, talking more about the military implications here, general barry mccaffrey, retired four star general in the u.s. army and msnbc and military analyst. general, as always, we appreciate you joining us on this. i first want to kind of talk about what we heard from president putin just a couple of days ago, the possibility here of a nuclear threat. here we are once again, eight months, it seems at this point, into this conflict and we're talking about the threat of nuclear. and we talked about this, i believe you and i, on the air, many months ago, and there was a sense at that time, that the russian president was bluffing about this threat. now it seems to be much more series. and we're not talking about the nuclear weapons that were used in world war ii. we're talking about more nuclear tactical weapons, and can you talk about the damage that could feasibly come from the use of
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tactical nuclear weapons by moscow? >> well, it is self evident that putin strategically is in a disaster. talk about endlessly the economy is tanking, yale university has some great work out on it, and the ability to manufacture military technology is going down the tubes, a political pariah in the international community and all of which has led increasingly to internal dissent in russia. and trying to hold it together now, stalin tactics in terms of grooming people and ethnic minorities and convicts, mercenaries, people who are protesting in the streets, throwing them into the russian military. so none of it, known of his tools are working for him and raising the specter of nuclear war. and nuclear war not against kyiv but instead against the west and nato is the real combatant on
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the ground that they're confronting. in a rationale sense, it is all a bluff. he understands fully well you cannot fight and win a nuclear exchange. by the way, tactical nuclear weapons, there's two weapons we used in nagasaki and hiroshima, 20 kt more or less, similar to the size of many tactical nuclear weapons which are strategic, so multimega ton weapons, so this is not believable. i would say his generals would say it is the end of all of us. i don't believe this is reality. but president biden, being accountable has to take this into recognition, as he moves forward on all of these issues. >> and you do, general, by the way, use that key word, which is rational, and we don't necessarily know that president vladimir putin is actually operating from a rational space, a rational mind set really, at
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this point, or if he ever was, and i do want to play for you part of president biden's interview with "60 minutes," when asked about what the united states would in fact do if it got to that. let's listen and then we'll talk. >> i'm wondering, mr. president, what you would say to him, if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons? >> don't. don't. don't. you will change the face of war unlike anything since world war ii. >> and the consequences of that would be what? what would the u.s. response be? >> you think i would tell you if i knew exactly would what it would be. of course i am not going to tell you. it will be consequentialle. >> so not necessarily forth coming there, when it came to what the red line would be for the united states and how in fact they would respond. what would you expect though here, general? would this be the final straw?
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>> look, you know, i've dealt with nuclear strategy, nuclear weapons technology at the highest levels of the government, i've been the primary arms control negotiator with russia over nuclear weapons, putin has no idea what we would do if he employed 10-kt weapons, these are nato forces or the ukrainians. neither do we understand it. there is no way that there is a discussion right now on, well, let's counter-punch with three tac nuclear arm, we find out if he did it. i don't think he is going to do it. but at the end of the day, he is opening a door with consequences that cannot be calculated. and a minimum what would happen would be a massive nato air campaign against a russian armed forces using conventional weapons. that would be the floor. we would wreck his army within 30 days, and using the air force
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and the brits and the french and the germans. so i don't think he's going to do it. but again, mr. biden has to take all of this into account, as we move forward. but the consequences of ukraine being subjugated by the russian army are severe. it has global consequences. the chinese are watching this. there's implications for taiwan. the north koreans. the iranians. so i think it's vitally important that biden, biden has done a tremendous job on this, keep europe together, keep the global community together in confronting putin over this criminal invasion of a sovereign state. >> retired general barry mccaffrey, thank you so much, great to talk to you sir. all right. back to the market, everybody. wow, it's been quite a week. we discussed this at the top of the hour just a bit. stocks plunging to the lowest point this year, in this final hour of the trading week. the dow tumbling more than, as you see there 600 points, it's bear market territory. really driven by these concerns
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of course over global inflation and surging interest rates. and the fed reserve chair jerome powell announcing earlier on this week, he is once again raising those interest rates by a substantial three quarters of a point. christina is joining us now, my gosh, it has been quite a week. obviously, like christina, folks are pretty scared. what he is happening? >> the sentiment is negative and you're seeing that reflected in the market. the dow hit a new nearly low. i'm at the nasdaq. we're seeing a lot offal isoff with the tech spots. you mentioned the inflation. and we were concerned about inflation because it is so high. and now a lot of investors are concerned how aggressive our central bank will be going forward. you mentioned the increased interest rates by 75 basis points. and the thought process from what we just heard in their meeting is that they are going to do the same thing come november at the next meeting and that's what is concerning, because when you interest
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increase interest rates, that makes debt more intense for businesses and you and i, reflected in the 30-year mortgage rate which is why we're seeing a little bit of a slowdown in the mousing market but it is all interconnected and when debt becomes more expensive and a strong u.s. dollar, that is a punch to corporate profits and hence part of this selloff we're seeing. >> let's hoping next week looks a little better. but not sure that will happen. >> with the u.s. dollar where it is right now, weakness in the u.k., the pound, to the usd, if you're traveling to london, it is great. but it hit a 37-year low. we're seeing weakness in switzerland, in japan, so overall, it's not just about the united states. >> global economy taking a deep breath. cnbc's, christina thank you very much, appreciate it. still ahead everybody, we're live in canada, where residents are bracing for what could be the strongest storm to ever hit the country's coast. plus, the latest out of iran. where nearly 30 people are believed to be dead after widespread protests there
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welcome back, everybody. we are following some breaking news out of florida. congressman matt gaetz will most likely not face charges in a
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long-running sex trafficking investigation. the "washington post" is reporting that career prosecutors in florida have recommended against charging gaetz due to credibility questions with two central witnesses. according to people familiar with this matter, gaetz was accused of being sexually involved with a 17-year-old young woman who he allegedly paid and transported across state lines, and gaetz has publicly denied any wrongdoing. i want to bring in "washington post" congressional verses reporter jackie, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. i know your colleagues at the post broke this story. what more do we know about it? >> yes, this is the culmination of potentially of a two-year long investigation that was actually opened up under donald trump's administration, with former attorney general bill barr's direct approval. investigators had previously set out to determine if congressman matt gaetz had paid for sex in violation of federal sex
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trafficking laws, and examining his dealings with a 17-year-old this. advice which was relayed to the prosecutors was, is not to pursue charges ultimately because of credibility issues according to reporting from my colleague, and there have already been charges against joel greenberg, an associate of gaetz, who had agreed to cooperate with the department of justice in this investigation but he is one of those witnesses who was actually charged ultimately with sex trafficking charges, who the d.o.j. had deemed not to be credible. so this advice is not final. it could be, no final decision has been made, but it is very unlikely that prosecutors would ultimately reject this advice. jackie alemany for us, thank you. canada is bracing for what could be the strongest storm ever to hit its coast. hurricane fiona expected to hit nova scotia tonight and move on to eastern quebec by early tomorrow, bringing severely
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strong winds, and heavy rain, along with all of it, the storm was downgraded to a category three and hammered bermuda earlier on today. calm waters quickly turned violent, sustained winds, nearing 125 miles an hour. meanwhile, days after impact, in the caribbean, residents are still dealing with the aftermath. more than a million people in puerto rico and the dr are without power, or running party as well. joining me now is nbc's maggie vespa and ellison barber in puerto rico. maggie, let me start you with on this one. folks there are bracing for what people in puerto rico, where ellison is, what they just went through. >> right. >> how are they preparing? >> so frankly, to quote a woman we talked to earlier today, here along the coastline, she said this is not our first rodeo with hurricanes. but we're scared. people know it is called historic potentially. they call it unprecedented. all of those alarming words that you're seeing in the headlines.
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so they're panic buying things like generators, bottled water and getting ready to basically have to hunker down in their homes for days on end, potentially, without power. and also, this board walk that we're standing on, this is normally crowded with tourists, and it's been closed down. you can see the ferries behind us, this is one out of the harbor right now, that is public transit shut down later on today. and local officials can't remember that ever having happened, that they're being really cautious. want to show you part of what the mayor told us earlier today. >> it is clearly important, people shouldn't do dumb things, that may sound self evident but don't go to the water and try to get a good shot. don't surf. we've got surfing here, that's great, but don't surf in a hurricane. and don't go to places, pay attention to your own health and not just yourself, and folks called upon to rescue and that takes efforts away from other things. >> after that quote, the mayor told me, if you're scared,
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you're smart. that's the vibe we're getting here today. >> usually with a lot of these storms, what happens is it hits the cold water, the power of these storms tends to lessen, but when it comes to what is headed towards where you are, it doesn't necessarily seem like it is dissipating now. >> not only is it not dissipating, it is growing. which is really has scientists scared. and you hit the nail on the head, and i'm sure our meteorologists can talk about this more eloquently than i can, but it is not common knowledge, to your point, these storms have traditionally weakened because the waters are colder and in this case, it is no longer the case. warmer waters up the eastern coast of the u.s. and in canada and the mayor says had this is becoming a new normal. >> ellison, if you would, take us to puerto rico, residents there, many of them, they have been here before, been through something like this before, still, and the hurt, the shock, the pain and dealing with it, it
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does not lessen. some without running water and power as well. what are you seeing? >> for a lot of people here in this neighborhood, in particular, they say look, we feel like we just rebuilt, after hurricane maria, and now, in an instant, everything is gone again. just look at this neighborhood. this is salinas, puerto rico, arguably hit the hardest when the storm came through and there is a river down that way that flooded and sent tons of water and debris and you can see what is part of a semi truck just over there, sent all of that into this neighborhood. we're starting to see people cleaning up. out over here, they say that they're going to take a really long time. one of the things to keep in mind here is maggie mentioned that you have people in canada, you have people, rather, who are going out and preparing for the storm, and when we talk to people here, they say that they didn't take all of the preparations that they maybe would have prior to this, or maybe years ago, because they didn't expect at least on the power side for things to be this bad. they say that they felt like
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government officials here, officials with the power company, that they said that the power grid was in a better position, and that they were prepared for this particular hurricane. and you have almost the entire island lose power. today, there are still around one million businesses and homes without power, just on puerto rico. there is a press conference earlier today where officials were saying that they will get most of the power back on within days. but people, they're not entirely confident of that, because they felt like this wasn't going to happen this time, and then it did. power aside though, a lot of people are dealing with destruction and devastated that they lost everything that they rebuilt after hurricane maria. >> all right, ellison barber, thank you, maggie vespa, please stay safe as that storm is approaching. thank you as well. all right, everybody, coming up, a lot more ahead. we're live in north carolina, with the former president, set to rally supporter tonight, despite a long list of legal troubles. so here's the big question. how is he going to spin it for
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widespread protests continuing across iran, despite an escalating government crackdown, and corresponding internet blackout. for a seventh straight night, thousands of demonstrators have risked their lives in the historic act of defiance led by women. some are cutting off their hair. others burning head scarves. men have joined the fight as well chanting in the streets. women, life, freedom. their outrage sparked by the death of a 22-year-old mahsa amini, who died in police custody by the morality police by a dress code violation. iranian officials say she had a fatal pre-existing condition and her family says witnesses are telling them she was beaten by police. at least 26 people have been killed in the protest so far. that number expected to rise, as the iranian army announces plans
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to quote confront the enemy to ensure security. iran's president taking a quieter public approach to soothe the growing anger calling for a state-led investigation into amini's death. what that really mean has been the question. joining me is an iranian-american journalist and analyst, also host of the iran podcast. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. i kind of want to get your thoughts first and foremost about what you're seeing happening in iran. what do you think is the end game here? >> well, it is as incredible as you were saying, it is essentially, a feminist movement, around the nation, led by many women, also shoulder to shoulder with men and it is the culmination of four decades of mandatory hijab by the morality police that is so violent that
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it led to the death of this young woman in police custody. so it's incredible. women taking to the streets asking for their rights and dignity, that they say the right to adres as they wish. and what is incredible, we're seeing religious iranians, religious fathers joining in the cause to abolish the morality and people saying this is un-islamic, and this dress code, the islamic dress code shouldn't be forced on women with such violence. >> here is the thing though. oftentimes, in authoritarian regime like iran, they are able to crack down on protests as they have continued to, until there is so much fear in the people of iran, they go back to their homes, and are no longer able to pour into the streets because they're just scared, right? scared for their lives. the risks they're taking every single day to even be out there is incredible. in and of itself. do you see that happening again here?
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or do you feel like the momentum is there, that people are there, for this to continue, and to make real change happen? >> well, we're seeing a lot of bravery, as you said, a lot of courage, people risking their lives, risking their lives staying on the streets, and so far they've stayed on the streets and the protests have spread across to many city, including religious cities, and also there is a lot of violence on the part of the security force, with the crackdown and we've seen in the past, with the protests, in 2019 and before that, 2009, that the state is willing and capable of permitting this kind of violence to crack down on protests. but the grievances remain. so this is layers and layers of anger of issues that need to be addressed. political, economic, and now social, and eventually cultural. this is their way of life, so i'm hoping this will be a time where a wakeup call to the authorities, to change this violent practice of allowing
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this, essentially a form of harassment of women in the public. >> if you think back to the islamic revolution in 1979, to take a little bit of a history lesson for folks watching us, one of the reasons that was successful, one of the small reasons there was a leader, there was someone in which those people had to look up to, right, and at the time, was ayatollah khomeini. if you think to now, if we're looking at this moment, right, is there a leader for this movement? and is that important for this movement to continue to grow? >> well, unfortunately, you can't really pinpoint one leader in the iranian opposition. there are different groups, in the i don'ts a spra, there are groups in the country, within the opposition, different factions of the political structure. in 2009, the opposition leaders were taken to house arrest. and were under house arrest for years. the state has also tried to
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limit leaders and growing them, especially in the country where they can be more effective. we can point to opposition figures, prominent figures outside the country, there's a few of them in the u.s., in europe, but as far as one leader, like the way you're mentioning, the comparison to the 179 and one movement under one person -- 1979, and one movement under one person, we're not really so much under that. but the movement, the women's right movement and women have been pushing over the last years, the limit of how the state wants them to dress and how they want them to dress is in the 1980s and the 1990s and today and women have made slow progress and hoping that this outpouring anger will bring them a step further. >> no one believes this will be a valid investigation, it is as if the saudi kingdom at one point saying they were launching the investigation into the murder and killing khashogghi,
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we knew what that all meant and christianne amanpour laid it out a couple of days ago, in which she was supposed to interview the iranian president here in the united states, was asked to wear a head scarf during this interview, and her journalist, for a journalist that is not part of the course, you are not required to wear a head scarf here in the united states. if it was in iran, it would obviously be different. what do we know about his intentions here? >> well, we know he comes from a conservative and hard line background, but this also shows the complete look at the situation, if that was really the reason, that he wanted christianne amanpour to cover with an hijab last minute, and that was the real reason that he canceled the interview, this is
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the point, there are protests happening over this very issue, a woman essentially dying or being killed in police custody, because of the way she was dressed. and then this is being imposed on a journalist here in the u.s., which also breaks from past precedent, the iranian president who came before him. we have the previous president doing interviews, with kprour christianne amanpour, without a hijab in the u.s., so this is unprecedented in iranian political history as well. >> we appreciate you joining us on this topic. and as we continue to see these protests happening across iran, i do hope you come back and speak more with us. thank you, nawra. >> thanks for having me. so inside the battle for a key constituency, how the latino vote particularly in nevada could decide who controls the senate. and despite facing a lawsuit and multiple investigations, the former president will headline a
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we're getting closer, right? 45 days till the midterms. and the former president is getting back on the campaign trail. he's going to be in north carolina this evening, headlining a rally for a republican congressional candidate, but that is probably not top of mind for him. despite what he faces, all of this legal pressure, and the growing pile of legal expenses as well. all coming as the special master tasked with reviewing the documents seized during the mar-a-lago search has given trump's legal team a new deadline to back up one of his bold and so far unsubstantiated allegations, that the fbi planted evidence. joining me now from north carolina, is nbc's vaughn hillyard and nbc news legal analyst barbara mcquade. vaughn, let me start with you on this one and say i think it is a
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safe bet the president, the former president, i should say, is likely going to address many of his legal troubles during the rally we're expecting to happen. >> which has become tradition for him. i mean i think over the last six years, it's become clear that there is also a sub-sect of the american population who will continue to side with him and he can do essentially nothing wrong. when you look at the crowd in wilmington, north carolina, yet again talking about thousands of potential who are showing up here on a friday, thousands of folks who are showing up here on a friday to take part in a rally with him but the north carolina senate candidate ted bud and i think an important construct to all of this here is donald trump has continued to lead the republican party here today, despite these investigations, and going to these states and all but force the hands of the likes of jd vance in ohio and mehmet oz in pennsylvania and north carolina, and going to michigan, with tudor dixon, a candidate for governor one week
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from now. each of these republican statewide candidates are coming and joining him up on the stage, and not only is he promoting his own brand, and he mounts what could be a potential 2024 run, launching a new super-pac here today, but also essentially demanding loyalty from these statewide candidates in the face of not only a criminal investigation, into whether he held on to confidential records that belong to the government, at his residency, but also facing potential $250 million fine for inflating values and assets and each taking from the american taxpayer. and yet despite all of that, you're going to see him stand on stage tonight and continue to defend this as a witch hunt and goes after those who have been against him. >> i suspect you're talking to people there who are beginning to arrive ahead of this rally. you've asked them about the new york attorney general's lawsuit. you've asked them about the mounting legal pressure the former president is facing. what are they saying? >> they tell you this is exactly
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what we saw with the russia investigation. with the investigation of going to ukraine, and i think that's where it gets at the heart of public opinion versus the court of law here and in the court of public opinion, among those who look at donald trump as their leader the last six years there is not much that will get them to move off of that and i think it is important to note that these republican statewide candidates are not ignorant to the fact that a great number of republican voters in the state have turned out in 2020 because of donald trump, and they are relying on them to help put them over the top, in some of these competitive general election races. >> not surprised but always curious on that. barbara mcquade, let's talk about this impending deadline friday, right? so essentially the former president saying the fbi planted all of this evidence. the special master, judge dearie, says show me, show me the evidence. show me why you're saying this. what are you expecting from the trump team? >> this is a really interesting and very savvy move i think by
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judge dearie. donald trump has himself made those claims and the fbi planted evidence, but his lawyers, you will note, have not made any such representations in court. where lie matters. if you lie in court, it could expose lawyers to sanctions, disbarment. and even criminal prosecution if he lied about something under oath, represented to be true, for obstruction of justice. so what judge dearie is saying is i want a signed declaration, time to put your money where your mouth is, i want you to look at this, and list all of the items that the fbi says were removed from mar-a-lago, and i want you to specify which, if any, were not there when the fbi were there. and in a polite way, he is asking them to identify which if any documents were planted. >> so with that, barbara, what do you expect them to present to the court, if anything, and what are the avenues the trump team
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at this point really has. >> i expect the answer is none. it is a declaration, they are not going to fabricate something here and put their own bar licenses on the line. the judge asked for some other things as well, things that they are asserting executive privilege against the executive, or executive privilege against third parties, so they will have some answers to other questions, but i imagine that the answer will be conspicuously absent when it comes to this idea of planting evidence. >> barbara mcquade, as always, thank you. >> hill yard thank you as well. and coming up the latino vote and hanging on to the senate. stay with us. ng on to the senate stay with us onder what everyones doing on their phones? they're investing with merrill. think miss allen is texting for backup? no she's totally in charge. of her portfolio and daniel g. she's building a greener future and he's... running a pretend restaurant. and phil?
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shift. >> less than 50 days to the midterms, latino voters are more coveted than ever. including right here in battle ground nevada where they're expected to make up one out of every five voters. republicans optimistic with more latinos shifting to the gop in 2020. cindy martinez says she is voting republican this year blaming democrats for soaring inflation and a weakening economy. >> i have to pay more to fill my tank and i don't have enough to feed my family, that's not a political issue, that's a survival issue. >> republicans proudly tout lara flores, a latino republicans who recently won a democratically held house seat in largely democratic texas. >> latinos are nod. they're angry at the party. >> and though republicans still have their work cut out for them. one poll showing democrats lead
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by 24 points nationally, among hispanic voters. and economic issues, their top voting concern. in nevada, the race for senate is a tossup. >> democrats hopes, resting on the incumbent katherine cortez-masto, the only latina ever elected to the senate. >> why are more latinos preferring republicans, what is happening in nevada? >> i can only tell you with the latinos that i am talking to, they are looking for somebody who is understanding the challenges they are facing. >> and they can count on the back of a key union. >> here in nevada, canvassers with the culinary workers union are going out into the neighborhoods to talk to registered voters including latinos about the midterm elections, they plan to knock on over one million doors statewide before election day. >> democrat union member jolene reyes helped canvas in the 90 degree heat. >> they will overturn our rights
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in the state which we've already had our right to do what we want with our bodies. >> yet the gop has needed a small shift around latinos to make big midterm gains. all set on the latino vote. nbc news, las vegas. >> thank you for that. that does it for me, everybody. you can catch me tomorrow, sunday, 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. hallie jackson picks up our coverage after a very short break. m a hospital administrator. when i talk to patients you can just see from here up when you're wearing a mask. and i have noticed those lines beginning to really become not so much moderate but more severe. i'm still wendy and i got botox® cosmetic. and i'm really happy with the results because they're very subtle, and i feel like i look like myself, but just less lines. botox® cosmetic is fda approved, to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks
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the race to the midterms hitting a full sprint today, with leaders from both parties drawing ideological lines in the sand. how both sides are not surprisingly at opposite ends of the political spectrum on pretty much everything. we're live with the top white house adviser on the president's strategy with 46 days to go until election day and looking at what republicans plan to do. first, breaking news on wall street this afternoon. have you seen the big board? hate to break it to you but there it system the dow down something like 800 points, on track to hit bear territory, a new low now for the year. i'm hallie jackson in washington and let's get right to the business of the business market with our nbc news reporter brian chung, let's talk about what is happening on wall street, and why and the significance here, because we've looked at ups and downs over the markets this year, and there is a low as

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