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the race to the midterms hitting a full sprint today, with leaders from both parties drawing ideological lines in the sand. how both sides are not surprisingly at opposite ends of the political spectrum on pretty much everything. we're live with the top white house adviser on the president's strategy with 46 days to go until election day and looking at what republicans plan to do. first, breaking news on wall street this afternoon. have you seen the big board? hate to break it to you but there it system the dow down something like 800 points, on track to hit bear territory, a new low now for the year. i'm hallie jackson in washington and let's get right to the business of the business market with our nbc news reporter brian chung, let's talk about what is happening on wall street, and why and the significance here, because we've looked at ups and downs over the markets this year, and there is a low as we
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said for the year. >> absolutely, and a lot of the story since the market opened this morning, the dow jones currently down 800 points, about 2.7%. if it stays at that level, through the market close, in about an hour, that would be the lowest level that we've seen the dow in 2022, and what has already been a brutal year for markets. and the big reason for all of this, have to rewind back to wednesday when the federal reserve, the nation's economic steward raised interest rates for the fifth consecutive time this year. that's to try to raise borrowing costs, to take some steam out of an overheating u.s. economy and which has led to the high inflation that we've seen. the concern though, that the federal reserve is going to have to slow the economy too much, to get ahead of that high inflation. the fed chair jay powell saying earlier this week he's not sure if this process leads to a recession. that's why you have some on wall street calling for and projecting an increase in the
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unemployment rate, from 3.7% to what bank of america could see 4.5%, sometime next year than would put millions out of work. one big reason why wall street is concerned. >> we also heard from fed chair jay powell even today, within just the last hour, brian, and nothing he said seemed to calm investors down. >> not at all. those remarks didn't necessarily touch on what is happening in markets today, but broadly speaking, the concern is after the federal reserve's moves this week, what is going to happen next? you have a lot of uncertainty in the global picture, because of the ripple effects of what the federal reserve did. you have for example japan having to intervene to try to prop the japanese yen up. there is a lot of international effects, for what the largest economy in the word does when it comes to how they're battling inflation. and a reminder that inflation is also being seen in a number of other advanced economies in the u.k. as well, where the chancellor recently unveiled a plan to actually do tax cuts, something that many economic commentators are debating the merits of, but regardless, high inflation, leading to panic around the world, with regards
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to what the central banks and fiscal policy makers need to do, to make sure that prices aren't as elevated as they are now. >> brian cheung, thank you, we are about brian mentioned, 57, 58 minutes from the close of the market day and get a check back later on this hour to see where things stand. stay with us. we also want to turn now to what is happening on the political front here in washington. with the battle lines, the democrats and republicans drawing right now, with both parties laying out their agendas ahead of the midterms. you've got abortion and women's rights. on the one hand, right? democrats really putting a focus on that, as republicans look to continue to restrict abortion access across the country and dems hoping to capitalize on the supreme court ruling that kicked the whole discussion off, the overturning roe v. wade. and you have the economy. what is happening on wall street today. you have inflation remaining stubborn in this country. various culture wars what our children learn in school and who participates in women's sports and the issue of crime as those in the gop seize on the violence
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that has been seen in cities across the country and the democrats, a looming potential of a second donald trump presidency and how congress in their control might safeguard that with republicans looking at the flip side hoping to stem another two years of an advancing biden agenda. we want to bring in vaughn hillyard in wilmington, north carolina. shaquille brewster and also at the white house. today was a big table setter of a day, right? in terms of setting the ideological landscape for the next 46 days, the commitment to america platform that the republicans put forth, here is what they had to say about that. watch. >> these democratic policies, it has already taken one month of your wages. we will repeal 87,000 irs agents. and an education system with a parents bill of rights and women should only compete in women sports. >> we see crime skyrocketing. that is a direct result of democrats. >> and house republican majority
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will not be afraid to hold china accountable. >> you also had a kind of rebuttal from president biden, talk about the contrast here, and the pledging, out of these next really important six, seven weeks? >> strategists looked at what republican leaders did today, in pennsylvania, and really welcomed it, because they say it's an indication of just how much the democrats political fortunes have improved over these last few months. because listen, one strategist put it, typically in a midterm year, if you're the party out of power, if you're the republicans, you can coast on political gravity here and usually you do pick up seats almost by the norm here, in midterm elections but now republicans feeling the pressure and coming out to put forward a little bit of their own agenda and as president biden put it when he took the stage today, don't judge us against the almighty, judge us against the alternative and he laid out a blueprint for other democrats 7-and down the ballot, and
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making the economic case, the infrastructure law, the inflation reduction act and trying to flip the script really on the law and order message saying you can't be prolaw enforcement and proinsurrection. and then really you have the president leaning into that one issue that i think democrats have lifted their chances in the fall and take a listen to how the president talked about that. >> 46 days, democracy will be on the ballot. americans will have to choose. between the maga republican platform, embraced extremism and the big lie, democrats, independents and mainstream republicans who believe in the rule of law and rejecting the change, and a free and fair election. >> the democracy part of the president's case today. that was a political event, right? from the official side, we were also seeing the white house releasing an analysis of senator lindsey graham's proposal for a nationwide abortion ban ahead of the white house gender policy
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council saying this would create a nationwide health crisis and imperil the lives of millions of women in all 50 states. a key part of their fall campaign message as well. >> thank you. let me turn to you, shaq. we talked about some of the big themes we've seen today and one of them, and you know it has been a theme and will continue to be one throughout this midterm season is crime. you're there, covering the senate race in wisconsin, where we're seeing how the republicans messaging on this issue is playing out kind of in the real world. talk us through what that looks like and what you've seen. >> look, this is an issue that republican candidates not just here in wisconsin but across the country feel very comfortable on. and we get a sense of why that is. that new nbc news poll that we saw earlier this week showing that republicans, when voters are asked, who will do a better job at handling the issue of crime, they side with republicans by about 23 points. that's an all-time high for the party. so what that looks like on the ground is republican candidates using that crime messaging, use the uptick in violence, the statistics that do show that
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violent crime has increased in the past two years, and using that against their democratic opponent, calling them soft on crime. and what that means for voters here, especially in milwaukee, is when they turn on the tv, this is the ad war that they see. watch this. >> violent attacks on our police. more than 300 murders last year alone. yet barnes has even supported defunding the police. mandela barnes, he stands with them, not us. >> we knew the other side will make up lies about me to scare you. now they're claiming i want to defund the police and abolish i.c.e. that's a lie. i will make sure our police have the resources and training they need to keep our community safe. >> now, while those are the two ads that voters are seeing here. it's important to note that republican outside groups are outspending democrats in a state like this. so voters here are seeing that first ad attacking the democratic opponent here more than they're seeing that rebuttal from mandela barnes. but one sign that you're seeing
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right here, outside of the event that ron johnson is having with the round table discussion with members of law enforcement, with members of the community, there are demonstrators here calling that first ad that you saw racist, asking ron johnson to take it down, and you get a sense of how that issue, crime is playing out, even as voters say, other issues like abortion and inflation may be their top issue when they go to the polls. >> shaq brewster live for us in milwaukee. thank you. and then vaughn, you also have what is looming over much of the midterms. the trump factor, if you will. how much success will donald trump have getting people that he wants to be in office actually into office? how much can democrats stem that tide? and you were worried the former president is set to hold a rally later tonight, by the way, the first rally he's held since the new york ag announced an unprecedented lawsuit against him and his family and his business. >> right, the question is, is he going to be able to get these trump-backed candidates to win the general election and he was successful to get most of those candidates through the primaries and now up on stage with one of
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them, the republican north carolina senate candidate, who is taking on the democrat sher i have beasley, ted bud is one individual, a current house member who voted to object to the certification of the 2020 results. and i think a lot of the questions swirling around republican world right now is to what extent will donald trump go beyond holding rallies which he went ohio and pennsylvania and going to michigan next week, and the question is, is he willing to spend money to help these candidates, hallie? we start to get maybe a little bit of an answer this morning, with the reporting that he is launching a new super-pack. he currently has a leadership pack and a lot of nuance into what these different pacs can do under laws, but it is significant because he could transfer more than $92 million he has in the leadership pac to a super-pac, which would allow him to spend limitless amounts of money to back these trump candidates around the country. and so far he has only spent $5 million from this fund of money
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to help candidates around the country. and you have heard of other republicans calling him to help in a more meaningful way, to get some of these candidates, like mehmet oz, jd vance, ted bud over the finish line. in the meanwhile in the next 45 days, i am told he continues to plan weekly rallies to help out the candidates and really, it is part of the 2024 apparatus, potentially, too, asking for loyalty for these candidates to come up on stage, stand beside him on the microphone with him and also when we're talking about the creation of the super-pac, of one other element of this, is the fact that they have announced multiple advisers, one time pollster is coming on board, a major gop fundraiser is coming on the super-pac and building an apparatus and that can only help the down ballot candidates in 2022 but could set up a potential campaign apparatus in 2024 for himself if he chooses to jump in. >> vaughn hillyard thank you.
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>> appreciate it. let me bring in now white house communications director kate beddingfield who is back on the show with us this afternoon from the white house north lawn. kate, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> big midterms here. we are talking about the ideological battle lines drawn and republicans are making it clear they are going to run as you know partly on the inflation and the economy, as we have this split screen now, today, for example, with the markets falling, down something like 800 points on the higher interest rates. how do you square that with the optimism that the white house is projected about economic conditions ahead of the midterms? >> well, look, first of all, they are very encouraging signs that we're making significant economic, and the biden presidency, historic number of jobs, real wages up over the last couple of months and inflation is flat, or effectively flat over the last couple of months and gas prices have fallen for 14 consecutive weeks in a row. and so we're seeing really encouraging signs here. and i think what's important is, and you heard the president talk about this today, you know, there is a real choice, for people, and there's a choice
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between an agenda that congressional republicans are putting forward that is about taking us backward and stripping women of their right to choose and stripping people of their right to vote, and/or the biden and congressional democratic agenda, which is about lowering costs, protecting your rights, and tackling the climate crisis, pushing for an assault weapons ban, i mean these are things that are going to make a difference in people's lives, and the choice could not be clearer here and i think we saw that laid out really clearly by the president and by mr. mccarthy today. >> and it's not just some of these issues we talked about. it is also, right, crime and policing and i don't know if you had a chance to hear shaq brewster on right before you, kate, he is there in wisconsin, talking about how in that particular senate race, crime has become a central theme and that is happening in campaigns, too. we heard the president mention ron johnson today. he clearly sees an opening on this issue. and you look at what the house just did yesterday that we covered here on the show, passing this policing and sort of public safety package, but with some objections from some progressives. is the white house worried that some holdouts in your party
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could help the push to cast democrats who are soft on crime? >> i can't speak from the politics from where i'm standing right here, but what i can say is republicans have had an opportunity to vote, to have additional resources on the ground, for police, in cities across the country. the american rescue plan, which was the first significant piece of legislation, that we passed when he came into office last year, passed without a single republican vote, and it included money for cities across the country, to use to provide additional resources to their police department. so you know, the president, i think, has made both a really aggressive case by getting to get cities and police departments the resources they need, and in making a really clear point here, rhetorically, which is that you can't be pro-cop and pro-insurrection, and what we see from congressional republicans is, you know, law enforcement officers were attacked on january 6th, and we see them consistently make excuses for that, and so the president has made very clear that there is a
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distinct choice here between his agenda, that provides funding and resources, to police, across the country, and what you get from congressional republicans, which is support for insurrection and attacks on law enforcement. that's a pretty clear, that's a pretty clear distinction. >> we haven't talked about republican governors, or immigration, for example, but obviously those two things are inter seccing when you look at what is happening in florida with governor ron desantis and the flying of mirgts migrants to, for example martha's vineyard. ahead of his trip to florida next week, we shoo we expect the president to be more aggressive and more outspoken against the governor on this issue. >> he has been extremely clear that he sees what desantis is doing here as a political ploy. i mean look, there's a report from the department of homeland security earlier this week that shows that migration from mexico and the northern triangle countries of central america is down 43% over the last year. but migration from countries
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like venezuela, nicaragua, cuba, places where there are oppressive communist regimes, are up, and what we saw from governor desantis is these are people who are fleeing, the people he sent to martha's vineyard, people who were fleeing a come next regime in venezuela. -- a communist regime in venezuela. so the president has been very clear about that, he is clear about he believes this is a political stunt. and here is the other thing. he put forward on day one, when he came into the white house, he put forward a comprehensive immigration reform bill which republicans could work with democrats to pass that would help address some of these issues, so he put solutions on the table, our dhs is continuing to provide resources at the border, but ultimately these kind of political employs we're seeing from people like ron desantis is not actually working to make the problem better. >> before i let you go, one of the things we heard from the president today was him blasting election deniers saying democracy cannot survive if we let the integrity of our elections being undermined and money from dems have been going
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to the republican election deniers to boost the more moderate in primaries to give the democrats a chance to win. >> the right to vote and a right to a free and fair elections that is fundamental to democracy and fundamental to what we are as a country. you may remember, i'm sure, as part of the reason that the president got into the race in 2019 after we saw the white supremacist marches in charlottesville, in august of 2017. so the very specific and existential threat that the extreme maga agenda poses to our country, he has been very, very clear it is something that he will continue to fight to protect the right to vote, and something that they are continuing to tear away at. so again, if you're looking at the clear choice, between president biden's agenda and a congressional republican agenda, this is it, and it is a very scary one and he is talking in stark terms what this would mean for our country. >> to the point of my question, given what you have just laid
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out with president biden, is he comfortable with money from dems going to fund republicans, who promote election denialism? >> well, again, i'm limited to what i can say from politics from this spot on the white house north lawn thanks to the hatch act but i can speak to what the president believes, that there should be no question that the right to vote and the right to free and fair election is fundamental to who who we are as americans and he will continue to advance that. >> white house communications director, kate bedingfield, thank you for being on the show. a lot more to get to coming up. including brand new reporting from the "washington post" saying congressman matt gaetz is probably not going to be charged in his sex trafficking investigation. we will explain why, with some of those details, right after the break. plus, russia making a very big step in ukraine, holding staged referendum, in russia controlled areas. is this the last step before they officially take them over. and hurricane fiona barrelling through parts of canada set to make land fall as
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we are watching a potentially big development now, in the years-long sex trafficking investigation into florida congressman matt gaetz. the "washington post" reporting gaetz does not seem likely to be charged with any crimes tied to the investigation of his alleged involvement with a 17-year-old girl. career prosecutors are telling the d.o.j. not to. they're citing credibility issues they say with two central witnesses, the then 17-year-old and a former friend of gaetz, joel greenberg. people familiar tell the "washington post" both gaetz's lawyer and the d.o.j.:ed to comment to the paper. i want to bring in ken dilanian. this is a story, this is an investigation that i know you and our team have been covering for years and a significant recommendation, since typically the d.o.j. doesn't go against what its prosecutors are telling them. >> that's right, they almost never do. and of course, as the post pointed out, you know, some
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things could change, they could get new information, but this is a pretty big deal, and just to expand on what you were saying, what the post is reporting and we're seeking to confirm at nbc news, we have not yet, is that prosecutors were concerned with the credibility of both of the key witnesses, and the story does in the explain what their concerns were with the woman in the case, who was 17 at the time, they believe that she met gaetz, but there are some details about joel greenberg who is a long time friend of gaetz and who has pleaded guilty to a host of crimes and was going to testify against him. one of the things greenberg admitted to was accusing his political opponent of sexual misconduct. so the thought was, well, that's a little bit uncomfortably close to what he is saying now about gaetz and would a jury believe him? so i'm sure it was a really difficult call for these prosecutors who spent a long time, and a lot of resources, investigating this case, the post also reported about ten days ago that gaetz had requested a pardon from then
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president donald trump, in the waning days of the administration, on this very investigation. so clearly, he was very concerned about it. but now, it does look like he is in the clear, at least legally on this one, hallie. >> ken dilanian, thank you for that reporting. right now parts of canada are bracing for a potentially historic storm with hurricane fiona barrelling toward the country's atlantic coast as a category four, set to be one of, if not the strongest storm on record for the area. and on its way, check out what happened in bermuda as fiona passed nearby. tons of rain, tons of wind, something like 130 miles an hour. i want to bring in nbc's maggie vespa live in nova scotia where they're bracing for this. potentially historic. >> people here, like you and i have seen the headlines tied to the storm that it could make landfall in canada with historic strength and they've been through currents before, but people here tell us even having been through this before, they are really scared. we see them panic buying
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generators water, and preparing to hunker down for days on end in their homes without power because they expect the power to go out. earlier today, the mayor says when it comes to this storm, if you're scared, you're smart. here is more of what he had to say. >> don't go to the water and try to be a bigshot. don't surf. we've got suv are suving here. that's great. but don't surf in the hurricane. and don't go out there. pay attention to your own health. and it is not just yourself but folks may be called upon to rescue you, and that takes effort away from other things. >> to give you an idea of the precautions, the ferries that take people from hall fax to nearby towns including dartmouth, the public transit along the coast of canada, they're shutting it down and frankly this board walk and this nice little coastal town, they are closing this down later on tonight and an official telling us she can't remember that ever happening before. that's how scared people are.
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>> maggie vespa, appreciate it. coming up next, for the first time, we are hearing from a former twitter employee who testified before the january 6th committee anonymously. why she says twitter left former, let former president trump lie and break rules for years. more on that after the break. ftk ever wonder what everyone's doing on their phones? they're investing with merrill. think miss allen is texting for backup? no she's totally in charge. of her portfolio and daniel g. she's building a greener future and he's... running a pretend restaurant. and phil? phil has questions, but none of them are about his portfolio. digital tools so impressive, your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. nina's got a lot of ideas for the future. and since anyone can create a free plan at fidelity, nina has a plan based on what matters most to her. and she can simply focus on right now. that's the planning effect. from fidelity.
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as the january 6th house committee gets ready to hold its next public hearing five days from now, we are hearing today, for the first time from a previous anonymous witness, you might remember her, a former twitter employee who had this distorted voice during the testimony saying that the platform let donald trump lie and break twitter's rules for years, leading up to the insurrection. listen. >> for months, i had been begging and anticipating and attempting to believe the reality that if we made no intervention into what i saw occurring, people were going to die. >> we now know that the person behind that voice, the former
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policy official at twitter coming forward speaking exclusively with the "washington post" saying in her words, i wouldn't be doing this if i didn't believe that truth matters. twitter on the other hand has argued her testimony leaves out in their words unprecedented steps the company took to respond to threats during the 2020 election. technology reporter drew harwell over at the "post" got that exclusive interview for the paper. thanks for being here this afternoon. >> thanks for having me. >> i'm quoting her here, i realize that being who i am and doing what i'm doing, i'm opening my several and my family to extreme risk. tell us more about that, why she's coming forward now. >> she thought there was a lot that was being left out of the story. she felt like what she had seen being inside twitter for so long was really alarming and she was frustrated that she had been ignored at the time when, you know, donald trump was online, stirring people up and sort of leading to what we saw on january 6th. so she felt like, you know, i'm
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afraid to come forward, i'm worried how this could affect me, and yet, i have to say something, i can't stay silent. >> she also told you she has done multiple interviews with members of congress saying in her words there is still a lot left to say. tell us more about what might come next to her. what are you hearing from twitter, too? >> well, there's a lot from her interview la we have not heard, right? there was a real sentiment coming from the hearing, we're expecting a full report at some time this year, and we're expecting to see more of what she had seen. she was in twitter for some really pivotal moments, and the things she has described are really startling, so i think if we get more of the sense from the executives on why they were being so slow in reacting to trump, why they let him be there for years and years stirring up what we all saw, i think that will add a lot of flavor and context whether big tech should
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have performed in a more reactive way or a more responsible way to trump inciting some of this violence. >> drew harwell, a great interview. thank you for bringing it to us here on msnbc. appreciate it. next up a wave of protests erupting in iran, you've probably seen some of the images. women burning head scarves to take a stand against how the regime treats women. is it a turning point? >> russia is staging a referendum on russian occupied territories before maybe trying to annex them. richard engle is live on the ground in ukraine for us this afternoon. hey, richard. >> reporter: i am here in kharkiv, and you can probably hear the air-raid sirens, every night, around this time, there have been air-raid sirens, and there have been some russian attacks, so the russian offensive, and the ukrainian founter offensive are in -- counter offensive are in no way over and coming up after the break i will tell you about the referendums which officials in this country and officials
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the new subway series. what's your pick? tomorrow, the russian foreign minister is expected to speak, after the u.n. commission found horrific war kraims in ukraine, horrific including sex crimes and abuse of children. a vote of joining the russian federation, the u.s. and allies are calling a sham. and chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live for us in ukraine. i'm glad to have you on with us. and tell us what you're seeing on the ground and what you're hearing from ukrainians at this critical moment. >> so i'm back in kharkiv now, we were in izyuh earlier today. so we will start with this referendum, and over the years, i've seen a lot of very dubious elections and this one is right at the top. we're seeing a referendum being
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held in occupied areas, so four regions of ukraine that are held by and controlled by russian troops, and allied pro-russia militias, so it is a referendum being held under duress. officials, particularly officials from the local allied militia, are going door to door, according to witnesses, sometimes armed, with a piece of paper, saying do you want to join up with russia, forever, or not? that's a difficult position to be in. if you're opening that door, when these militias clearly want to be part of russia forever. there are also, they are also stopping people on the streets and asking them the same question, here's a piece of paper, sign it. and no real document checks that witnesses are describing, in fact some ukrainians online are trying to give advice to fellow ukrainians, telling them how to beat the system, saying if someone is showing up at the door, tell them that you have already voted on the streets
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because it doesn't seem to be that they are doing any deconflicting. so this is a referendum, there are no international observers there, again, it is in an occupied area, and officials in ukraine, nato officials, u.s. officials believe the result is a foregone conclusion, that by and overwhelming majority of votes that may never be counted, we'll see these four regions voting in favor of joining up forever with russia. and the expectation is after the votes are in, and this result is announced, that vladimir putin, who is already endorsed this process, will say, well, the people have spoken, these people in ukraine want to be part of russia, and therefore, we must respect the democratic process, and annex those areas to russia, to an area of russia that is historically known in russia as "new russia" and then putin and his officials, his inner circle,
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are already saying that the next step after annexation would be to defend these areas, like they defend moscow, or like they defend any part of the homeland with nuclear weapons. and the idea would be to make it more difficult for ukraine to fight against these areas. more difficult for the united states to supply weapons, because, as it is now, the ukrainians, with the u.s. and european weapons, are firing into these areas. and if suddenly russia, vladimir putin personally says, no, this area is just like moscow, and if you attack it, it is like an attack on moscow, we will defend it with nuclear weapons, it puts the u.s. in a more difficult position when it comes to supplying weapons. >> richard engel, glad to have you there. live for us kharkiv, thank you very much. and elsewhere, the iranian army hinting to intensify the violent crackdown on the protests happening all over the
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country. all triggered by the death of a 22-year-old woman who died in police custody, after being arrested by iran's so-called morality police by violating the strict dress code and ler her family denied any known health issues and beaten by police. what you're seeing in some cities, state organized demonstrators. chanting for the execution of people they call rioters according to reuters, as officials warn they will continue to, in their words, confront the enemies behind the arrest, according to iranian state tv. at least 26 people have died during the demonstrations. with us now, jason, wrongfully destained in iran for 18 months, a global opinions writer and former tehran correspondent for the "washington post." thanks for being on the show on an incredibly important week in iran. >> thanks for having me a momentous time, a scary time, and unfortunately, the news coming out of iran is quite horrific this week. but i fear even more that news
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is going to dry up and internet access, and social networks are shut down, in the coming days. >> can you talk about what it means to you to see some of the extraordinary images that we've seen, women burning their hijabs, cutting their hair for example in these demonstrations. we've seen demonstrators setting fire to police stations, et cetera. >> in 2009, following the contested re-election, the world witnessed iranians standing up and demanding that their votes be tallied. i was there on the streets. i experienced the batons to my back, along with other people who were out, i was covering those protests for american media at the time. what we're seeing now is a much braver, less fearful group of people coming out and essentially saying we no longer want this system, and if we ever did want this system.
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i think that the reality is that the leaders were unpopular for a long time but held on to power by an unspoken deal with the public in iran. that deal has broken down. they can no longer serve the needs of ordinary folks and people are frustrated with the abuse of power, the misogyny and the oppression and everything else that goes along with this regime. >> we saw the iranian president slamming the u.s. and the sanctions on the country, how badly are those sanctions hurting the regime right now? >> the sanctions unfortunately have by and large hurt people in iran and in other country where the u.s. has had economic sanctions for years, but what also hurts the regime, in its ability to really meet the basic needs of the populous. i am not pro-economic sanctions but at the same time, the argument that's made by officials in the republic are ridiculous.
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the people on their own are known to be kleptocratic authoritarians essentially lining their own pockets with the wealth of their own people. and so, you know, i think not only is the president quite disingenuous in his critiques he is not very specific either. >> jason, thank you very much for being on today. appreciate it. we've got a little breaking news to get to coming up after the break. on that national security damage assessment of documents found at mar-a-lago. we'll tell you what we just found out after the break. l tel found out after the brea k. it's the all-new subway series menu! 12 irresistible new subs... like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef. this sub isn't slowing down time any time soon. i'll give it a run for its money. my money's on the sub. it's subway's biggest refresh yet. peaceful state. full plate. wait, are you my blind date? dancing crew. trip for two. nail the final interview. buy or lease? masterpiece.
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are so closely linked, that the intelligence community damage assessment had to also stop. now that the fbi has the classified documents back, they're using them in their criminal investigation, and the damage assessment can also continue, because of course, one of the key questions in the damage assessment is who saw these documents that were so, so highly classified, and did they go, did any of them get into the wrong hands, and so you know, folks sitting in washington, and in virginia can answer that, only the fbi agents investigating the case can get to the bottom of those questions, and they are also looking at whether any sources or methods were compromised, and whether any action needs to be taken as a result to protect the intelligence community interests. >> ken, thanks. with 45 days now until election day, there is a big issue that both sides, democrats and republicans, are talking about, and that is student loan debt forgiveness. with research from the brookings institute showing black college students owe nearly $8,000 more than white students at
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graduation. we are talking to students in durham, north carolina, with tremaine. >> when you consider $1.75 trillion that americans owe for student loan debt and the amount that million that millennials o, it is more acute for the black students who are under the racial wealth gap. and we talk about $8,000 more than that the black owe, and in four years that triples. so we came down here to north carolina central university and had a conversation with current and former students about how they are wrestling with the debt. take a listen. growing up, jonah always knew he was going to college. >> everyone in my family, on my mom's side, they all went to sutton. my dad went to college, my uncles all went to college. >> reporter: it is family tradition. but also so much more. for african-americans, higher
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education is rebuke of a history that legally barred black folks from learning to read or write let alone go to college. so jonah pursued two degrees, both from historically black colleges. but now a decade after graduates, jonah who works for a nonprofit still owes $120,000 in student loans that he can't afford to pay. especially as a new dad. >> i'm looking at her and i'm look, man, she can be anything that she wants to be. and as soon as i said it to myself, i'm look can we afford to put her through college. >> reporter: because college students arrive on campus with less wealth than their white peers. and they tend to take out more and bigger loans for the same degrees. and they will owe about $7400 more than their white counterparts at graduation. it is one reason jonah founded an organization that mobilizes black students, especially on
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hbcu campuses, around pivotal issues like canceling student loan debt. >> specifically for black people, it looks like modern day sharecropping. we'll give you the opportunity to become something, but in order for you to do that, you got to borrow this from us and it will travel through your family the rest of your time and you never pay us off. >> reporter: and we visited north carolina central university to talk to student currents like marquay who owes $38,000 and heavnn who owes $100,000. >> there wasn't a fund, but there wasn't like i won't help you pay for it. >> i wonder if this issue would make you change who you are voting for. >> it will be a major factor in my decision. but there are definitely other factors as well. >> reporter: president biden announced a student relief plan
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that the white house says could impact 43 million americans. and eliminate debt for 20 million people. >> it is about opportunity. it is about giving people a fair shot. >> reporter: it is the fulfillment of a campaign promise, but for these students, it is not enough. >> it is cute, like thanks, but what is next? because $20,000 on 100? what's that doing for me? >> reporter: despite the heavy burden of student loan debt, these students are determined to pursue their dreams no matter what. and while students are waiting to see how the biden plan might affect them, north carolina central university has used millions of dollars in pandemic relief fund to help alleviate some debt so there has been some help here on this campus. >> trymaine lee, great to see you. lot of people look forward
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his podcast called into america. and let's get a quick check on wall street. seema mody is back with us. and from the top of the hour, right, when we came on the air at 3:00 eastern, noon pacific, a little bit of a recovery but not a great week for the market on the fed news. >> that's right. and we were attorney as much as 800 points for the dow, now currently 500 points. investors certainly trying to assess just how much higher interest rates need to go to bring inflation down. and just what type of economic harm this will cause. there are more economists today saying a recession is more likely here in the u.s. and at the same time tracking the story in europe where the latest economic data continues to worsen. there is a pmi survey released today which shows business sentiment is falling amid a shortage in energy. and the uk unveiling tax cuts that sent the uk pound to a 37
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year low against the dollar. just extreme moves, all while the fed of course has this dual mandate that focuses on jobs and inflation, but at what point does fed chair powell take into account the unintended consequences of raising interest rates. and the pressure that is putting on emerging nations not to mention nations like japan. that is what experts are trying to figure out right now. >> so how much is on playing into what we're seeing in the markets at home? feels like it is all interconnected. >> global markets are always interconnected. the gas and geopolitical story certainly affecting europe a bit more than the u.s. today oil prices down about 7%, so that is starting to trickle through to the energy trade. current the worst performing sector. so in europe, of course that is the story at this hour.
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>> seema mody, thank you so much. another busy day covering wall street. and we'll keep you posted throughout the evening here on msnbc. thank you so much for watching this hour. and you can find us on twitter at always. for highlights from the show and new reporting. and of course on nbc news now, i'm there tonight and every week night at 5:00 eastern for show number two. hope to see you there. happy friday and see you back here monday. "deadline: white house" starts right after the break. arts right after the break. think miss allen is texting for backup? no she's totally in charge. of her portfolio and daniel g. she's building a greener future and he's... running a pretend restaurant. and phil? phil has questions, but none of them are about his portfolio. digital tools so impressive, your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company.
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hi there, it is 4:00 in new york. and the hearing of the january 6 select committee is now just a few days away, and the aftershock s from the deadly shocs still being felt with the midterms now less than 50 days away and the fates of the people involved in the insurrection from the disgraced ex-president and inner circle all the way to the mob who stormed the capitol. and let's talk again about stephen ayres, he is a january 6 department who back in july testified publicly before the january 6 select committee and said that donald trump effectively directed him and hundreds of

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