this is the katie phang show. we are live from miami, florida. we have lots of news to cover. we have lots of questions answered. let's get started. it is put up or shut up time for donald trump. he is up against a new deadline to backup his claims that the fbi planted evidence during its search of mar-a-lago. the doj gets the greenlight to resume its review classified documents. the ex presidents legal demands, are they backfiring? plus, florida state senator jason is here to talk about the escalating migrant crisis and the lawsuit that he filed

against florida governor, ron desantis. he tried to stop him from making matters worse. it is not the only lawsuit that the florida governor is facing. how much legal trouble is he in? later, another trump rally, another not to qanon. we will show you what happened when trump took the stage last night in north carolina. it is what appears to be the ramping up of his support for the far-right conspiracy theory. all of that and more is coming up. and a good saturday morning to you. i am katie fang. the january six committee just scored a legal victory in its investigation of the so-called, alternate electors. we're just a few days away from the committees next and potentially final public hearing. we begin our morning with msnbc capitol hill correspondent allie raffa, with the latest live for us in washington d.c..

good morning allie. >> good morning katie. yeah, the general six committee says that it's next. and the numbers are containing, probably last year, our convening on wednesday. while they haven't dropped the theme of the hearing. they've dropped bread crumbs on what we should expect to see on wednesday. they said that they gathered more information. mark communication with the secret service on communications and movements on january 6th. during this almost two month long break in hearings. they say that this hearing will tie up loose ends. close storylines that they started to present. in past hearings. and katy, while they start to ramp up the investigation. more doors are opening for possibly more information. into their investigation into the attack on the capitol. we learned this week that the committee secured a voluntary interview with the supreme court justice. clarence thomas's wife. ginni thomas. and while chairman bennie thompson wouldn't tell me when that interview would take

place. he said that there is no rush to have this take place before wednesdays hearing. but he said that he knows that this testimony will be significant because of the firsthand knowledge of so many topics that we have already seen in percent in past hearings. and lastly, that the committee is now having access to this thread that a arizona judge granted access to an arizona chairwoman of the republican party. access to her phone records to the committee. she was one of over 80 of these so-called fake electors that the committee subpoenaed earlier. so it's going to be interesting to see how this new information could possibly make it into this next hearing, or possibly into this final interim report that the committee is expected to release over the next few months. >> our allie raffa. thank you so much for being with us live on capitol hill this morning. so that many investigations into donald trump are heating up, could his team's post for a special master now be

backfiring? coming up i'm going to ask msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade about the consequences of trump's ever-changing defense of the documents found at mar-a-lago. now, to iran. where the united states treasury department says that an iranian government is cutting off internet access. in response to the protests that began after the death of the 22-year-old woman who died while in police custody. the treasury department also run announced that the united states will announce sanctions on iran in support of the postmasters. iran said at least 26 people are dead. as the demonstrations head into their eight-day. and bc's alley is the only western correspondents in iran. he is live in tehran now with the latest. >> good morning katie. the protesters now are in their eight-day. and they are not showing any piece -- of slowing down despite the massive security presence all over the country. almost the entire city is

involved with demonstrators. violently clashing with the security apparatus. last night, another -- nationwide. and in the kurdish region, where the young girl died after being arrested by the police. was from several towns in that kurdish region, they have been completely overrun by protesters. let's take a closer look at what is going on on the ground in iran. >> violent protesters. with dozens of cities across iran. sparked by the death of a 22 year old woman. after she was arrested by the fear of morality police. accused of violating a strictly enforced islamic dress code. police deemed that the pants that she was wearing under her robe were too tight. within hours of being taken into custody. she was brain dead. three days later? dead. >> she was, she had her whole life in front of her. >> iran's morality airy police now sanctioned by the u.s.

department. young woman poured onto the streets, despite knowing that there could be a brutal crackdown and arrests. since the 1979 as law make revolution, it's been mandatory for women to wear head scarves or face jail time. yet over the last several days in cities across the country. you women have been burning their head scarves. and cutting their hair. with large crowds cheering them on. in response. police have beaten protesters with clubs, and fired live rounds of water cannons at an island demonstrators. while throttling the internet, and breaking arms. the u.s. government announced new efforts to expand internet access to the iranian people. >> iran must and its use of violence against women. for exercising their fundamental freedoms. >> since the protests began, the iranian government says 26 people have died. the strength now in short order. activists and journalists are being arrested. including nemo, who broke the story about this girl.

and katy the establishment is cracking down hard on the streets, online, and in the judiciary. iran's president just got back from new york. from the un general assembly. so protesters should be confronted decisively. the judiciary is telling prosecutors to hand down sentences swiftly. the internet is all but gone. absent it work. many arrests are being made. and the government has temporarily closed all universities across the country. because they are the traditional hotbed of dissent in iran. >> unbelievable. thank you so much ali. for the latest in iran. we're now going to turn our attention to ukraine. where russian forces open polling stations yesterday. as part of an effort to annex territory. they have seized in ukraine's east and south. kyiv and the west condemning the move as a rigged election whose result has been predetermined by russian president vladimir putin.

according to the ap. the voting is being overseen by russian authorities carrying assault rifles. and expected to run for tuesday. the vote coinciding with an escalation of putin's war effort this week. with his announcement of a draft. to enlist an additional 300,000 troops. to fight in ukraine. putin's decree fooling backlash and new protests in moscow. and now right now, emergency prep in florida is a top concern as the state braces for extreme weather threats. tropical storm in is expected to make landfall, as a category three hurricane in just days. governor desantis declared a state of emergency on friday, and officials are urging residents to prepare with food, water, and medicine. canada is currently dealing with one of the strongest storms to ever hit the country. thousands waking up today without power. as now downgraded post-tropical storm, fiona, brings heavy rainfall and rough winds. nbc's mackay is there now.

good morning maggie, can you tell us what you're seeing this morning? >> hey katie. good morning. specifically we are in halifax, nova scotia. we can tell you, you can see behind me. definitely, peak wave heights. still strong winds. thankfully, no reports of flooding this morning. also no reports of any injuries. which we are obviously very relieved to wake up and see. that being said, the big problem, as predicted, power outages. which we saw in puerto rico. and we saw it in bermuda. as fiona made her way up the east coast into canada. more than 300,000 people, according to nova scotia power. waking up without electricity. again, heavy winds continue to expand. and could easily grow. and for that reason, officials are still issuing warnings to people. to take this seriously. and just be really careful. as the owner's wrath plays out in realtime. here is part of what the mayor told us yesterday. take a listen. >> people who are scared, are

smart. and we hope that it doesn't come to the most extreme but we need to be ready for it to be that. >> again that was the mayor of halifax. nova scotia. and this morning we talked about the hurricane making its way towards florida and we just want to reiterate. we talk to also the historic nation of. this storm in canada. these stories don't make the way this far north. because there's water. and that's what's weakening those storms. but now we have warmer waters, these storms are retaining their strength as they track north. here in canada. it brings them to what they now believe is this new normal. kate? >> maggie, live in the halifax, nova scotia. thank you so much. later this hour? attention at any cost? donald trump has gone from winking at qanon to openly a bracing it. whether he's being strategic, or clueless, it is hard to say. but experts say that one thing

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united states. you can declassified just by saying this is declassified. even by thinking about it. >> ever since the fbi searched his florida home at mar-a-lago, donald trump has been contacting as many defenses as he can. throwing them against the wall just as he was six. that when you just heard, being one of the more outrageous examples. turns out though, it might not be the best legal strategy. the special master, who the trump team asked for specifically, has now given trump a deadline of this coming friday to backup his claim that

the fbi planted evidence. of course, for reasons the senior district judge, raymond dearie, has to demand the proof? because both trump and his lawyers have publicly suggested it. without providing a shred of evidence. trump even posted on truth social, back in august. quote. planted information anyone? and that is just one of many losses served up to trump this week. the 11th circuit allow the doj to use the classified documents in his investigation. and breaking last night, the office for the director of national intelligence said that it has resumed its damage assessment of the classified materials. for a closer look at all of this, i am glad to welcome my friend, the former united states attorney. at the michigan school of law. and msnbc legal analyst. barbara mcquade. who is at the tribune festival. and i think, you borrow, for getting up early. in texas. to join us this morning. barb, let's start off with a special master. trump was the one who won it

day mid -- raymond dearie. he wanted a special master. now raymond dearie is calling him out. saying you need to cash accounted for all of your defenses. so it is put up or shut up for trump. are the legal strategies here legally backfiring on him? >> yeah. it seems to be the case. so often donald trump's defense is to win the court of public opinion. to win the news today. he's thinking about today. he's not really thinking about tomorrow. and most lawyers will tell their clients not to say anything. because whatever you say can be used against you. so i think we're seeing some of that come home to roost here. the public wouldn't even know about this search if donald trump himself had not publicly announced it. and in fact. i think there is a good possibility that the justice department would have been happy to just get the documents back but he has made such a battle of it. and now, i think it makes it very difficult to get the justice department to file charges here. and as you said, it was donald trump's team itself that selected raymond dearie to be

the special master. and he is not putting up with any of this nonsense. he is moving things along with what he referred to as reasonable dispatch. he is not going to play games, and he is making them articulate if there is some defense of planted evidence. but you need to say so. and you can't say so just in the media. i want a sworn declamation, or affidavit. by friday. going on that inventory. and letting you know which specific documents do you say were planted there by the fbi? that is a wonderful way to hold someone's feet to the fire. and not allow them to get away with these outside statements that are just as outrageous and undermine the rule of law. >> yeah, and barb. i'm glad that you mentioned the reality. of the special master and what they're are demanding. that trump team put a declaration, on an affidavit. which is an in very important nuance to actually put interest as to whether or not the fbi allegedly punted evidence at

mar-a-lago. that they then purportedly took out and are using against him. you know barb, at the rally that he did last night. trump called the investigations, quote, a witch hunt. we've heard that one before. a torment, a little bit new. and several other things. but interesting lee, he didn't talk about how he declassified documents. in his mind or otherwise. did nor did he make any suggestions about plant of evidence. barb, how hard do you think trump's legal team. the mar-a-lago legal team. is working behind the scenes right now to try to control what he is saying publicly. because there is a serious legal consequence for what he puts out there publicly. >> absolutely kate. anything that he says publicly can be used against him later. i imagine that his lawyers, like all the lawyers before them. have urged him not to speak about a pending case. but it seems that he can't help himself. and also, it is part of his strategy. to simply generate enough outrage that he can win the day. and the day's news cycle. and they also think that some

of the things that they hear from him, and others. is that if charges were filed against him there would be so much outrage. and so much violence in the streets. that you don't their file charges against them. so it's a part of the strategy. that the lawyers would say. they don't want him speaking because one of the elements of many of these charges is the willful retention of documents that pertain to the national defense. so the classification defense is not one that holds many legal water anyway. it might sound good in public. but it is not going to be a legal defense. and anytime he talks about having them in his basement. whether they were declassified, or whatever they are. he is acknowledge that he did have them. and he knew he had them. and so all of that can be used against him at the trial. so barb of course the other big headline that we've been focusing on this week is that donald trump new york attorney general letitia james is huge fraud civil suit against the former president. his adult children. and some of his businesses. james seeking a minimum of a

quarter of a billion dollars in damages. and to bar him and his children from doing business in the state ever again. let's start first barbed, with a quick reminder of what trump has said about his companies over the years. let's take a good listen. >> i built up one of the greatest companies and i'm very proud of it. and it's probably nothing like it. everything i touched turned to gold. i built an unbelievable business. a great, great business. some of the greatest assets in the world. i built a company that is worth more than ten billion dollars. okay? >> barb, ten years of fraudulent financial statements among other offenses. is this yet another case of trump's trademark boastfulness coming back to bite him legally? >> yeah, in fact katie. i think all of these legal challenges that he faces. this really could be the one that finally is -- . and part of that is the fact that this is a document case. it is based on false statements

in one document that are inconsistent with statements and another document. and so when you have witnesses in court, sometimes their credibility can be impeached by the ability to observe, or some guys that they may hold. documents don't lie and documents don't forget. and so i think that this could be a very important case. but based on the allegations, much of his empire is really just a house of cards. borrowing money based on false statements, in pleading his assets. to get money to buy another asset. and so, he's got all these things but underneath them, there are no assets to support them. he's got all the real estate, and he's got all the golf courses and other things. but according to the allegations, he's overvalued them. sometimes by a factor of ten. just to give one example mar-a-lago, is being valued on documents as $39 million. in fact, according to the complaint, it's only worth $75 million. and it's replete with dozens

and dozens of other examples like that. >> barb, when answer from you. and one answer only. whenever i have an amazing legal analysts like you on the show. i asked them, which is going to be the trump investigation that is going to be the first to indict him? i'm still banking on fani willis, fulton county da. her investigation. what is your thought barb on that? what investigation do you think is gonna be the first? >> until a couple of weeks ago. i absolutely would've agreed with you. because she has been moving very rapidly. and calling all the right people to the grand jury. but now i think the mar-a-lago one might be. and that's because the evidence is done. they may want to interview a few more people to see if there are more documents elsewhere. but they have got the documents, they have caught him red-handed with the documents and he has made statements that prove the case. that he was willfully retaining these. and so, he could be charged tomorrow. my guess is that they will do a little bit more investigation. but i see by the end of the year will see charges in that investigation. >> barbara mcquade, i will say

again, thank you for getting up extra early to join us in our viewers all the way from texas. we appreciate you. >> thanks. katie >> and, four years, trump has been claiming that he knows absolutely nothing about qanon! >> i know nothing about the qanon. i know very little. but what you tell me doesn't necessarily make it fact. i hate to say that. i know nothing about it. >> two years after that denial to end bc savannah. trump is making the conspiracy theory part of the maga mainstream. we'll talk to the extremism expert christopher goldsmith about the potential dangers. coming up next! coming up next can do just about anything. thanks, dad. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings. it's about the friends we make along the way. you said it, flo. and don't forget to floss before you brush. your gums will thank you.

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a giant q over his face. and the text, information warfare. time to wake up. qanon supporters really believe the ridiculous and dangerous idea that trump has been sent to fight supposed satan worshipping pedophiles that run washington d.c.. trump was floating the conspiracy theory, but now he is appearing to openly embraced the group. this is a group with direct ties to the january 6th insurrection. the fbi has designated qanon as a terrorist organization. and warned that its followers may act as a catalyst to future political violence. for more on all of this, i am joined by extremism and disinformation alice, christopher goldsmith. chris, thanks again for joining us on the show. first of, i want to ask you, what are you making of what appears to be trump's most overt embrace of qanon yet. and why now? do you think that this is a strategic move overall? because of the midterms around the corner? >> good morning katie, thanks

for having me on. trump's embrace of qanon is in the context of what is going on in his personal legal professional, political life or what you equality. he is trying to raise a threat against the justice department. against the american people. and especially against the republican party. that if he is prosecuted, if he is found liable. in new york state lawsuit against the trump organization, he is basically saying, i am going to rally this cult to start committing terrorist attacks across the country. >> chris, nbc's bombshell is reporting, trump actually chose to play that specific song again last night. trump's team arguing that it is nothing to do with qanon. but share with our viewers what you are seeing online about this. >> so the qanon conspiracy

theory reached a point after this mysterious letter stopped focusing on the fringe platform. it reached a point that the qanon court could survive without trump nodding to it. and even without q. who is probably -- one of the crazy people who runs a cone. now, one of the things that he is doing right now. is he's basically strengthening the cult. he is returning to his position as the messiah. messianic later. one of the things that is constantly kept in the middle of the qanon cult is the idea that there is a military intelligence analysts behind it. that it is all connected to the military. and they believe that stump is still president, trump is still in control.

the military is in control. that's one of the most common phrases. and since trump is doing these direct nods. the qanon conspiracy called has all of the influencers who have tied their identities over the last few years to the cult. had a flurry of activity. last night they were on telegram, on gab, on all sorts of these alternative social media platforms. live tweeting basically, not twitter, but on these platforms. every single word of this maniac who was on stage saying. one of the things that people need to keep in mind that the qanon cult is all about things like violence. it's about executions, it's about revenge. it's about military tribunals. it's about following military former leaders. like the disgraced former general mike flynn. convicted felon. into war. they call themselves digital soldiers. they are looking to engage in combat.

to engage in revenge. against the people of the united states. they believe have done them wrong by not joining the cult. >> you know chris, there is been different interpretations of what that one finger salute means. for me, i think it is disturbingly reminiscent of not see germany. we should know that there is video from last night's rally security trying to actively stop the folks in the crowd from making that gesture. but chris, what is it symbolize for the qanon followers? that particular one finger salute? >> well they are a fascist cult. he went conspiracy theory, the cult, is at its root fascist. it is ethanol nationalist at its roots. it is, considers trump of the most flawed person on the planet, to be a god-like figure who they will follow to the ends of the earth. in order to make sure that he

is never held accountable. for any of the many crimes that he and his family have committed. now, i want to be really specific care. i am not speaking in hyperbolic terms. is a cult. it had caused all of the hallmarks of the cult. it is a fascist movement. this is not hyperbolic language. these people are nuts. and should democrats lose the house, we are gonna have cumin on marrying the acts who are marjorie taylor greene, who are taking positions of power. who can share committees. who can run investigations. and through sabotage, can basically cripple our country's ability to govern itself. i wouldn't be surprised. we saw ted cruz a few years ago, to the shutdown. everybody hated him for it. while the qanon conspiracy theorists start taking charge of committees. there is no way in hell we're gonna fund the government.

we're gonna see a complete shut down. and things like social security, and things like disability parents to veterans. the va health care? not gonna be available. because their goal is to sabotage the democracy of the united states. to basically force that revelation. >> christopher goldsmith, i always, i use the word like, i like having you here. because you ground us in the reality that there's a lot that is going on in the dark areas and corners of the web but you are on the front line tracking it and reporting it back to us, and analyzing it. and i cannot begin to emphasize what you just said. which is, qanon is not a joke. it's not an outlier, it is now completely mainstream. and it's sadly, and tragically, and dangerously a part of our political discourse. so i thank you christopher goldsmith for taking the time for being with us this morning. i appreciate you.

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to transport illegal immigrants to other parts of the country. i personally thought it was a good idea. >> i think these two governors are brilliant. i think what hat abbott and desantis has done is made the issue real to the most liberal people in the country. >> what they're basically saying is that we should anyone to come here illegally, to come here, to stay. and we should resume that responsibility but only if they stay in florida. they are hypocrites. >> i had a lot to say to marco rubio. about hypocrisy here. gop lawmakers out in force, defending governors rhonda santas and governor abbott's move to transport migrants to texas up north. all this cheering is a wave of potential new legal conference -- florida governor filing a lawsuit against the sentence this week, over the martha's vineyard stunt. desantis said that he relied on a state program that sets aside

$12 million to transport migrants who are unlawfully in the united states. but senator says that that does not stand up. because one, the migrants weren't even in florida. and two, they were asylum seekers. and not unauthorized aliens. this is coming on the heels of another lawsuit against desantis. a civil rights law firm filing a federal class action lawsuit in massachusetts against the santas and other officials. infusing them of orchestrating a premeditated, fraudulent, and illegal scheme. for the sole purpose of advancing the personal, and political interests. and the legal fallout doesn't end there. a texas sheriff announcing this week that he was opening a criminal investigation. saying they were lured against false pretenses. with desantis the lies. and all this among -- to the front lawn of the private home of joe biden this week. but it seemed to fall through for now. i'm glad to have for the state

senator jason pirozzolo joining me now. he was going to be with us on set but the man is on a mission, and so we are grateful for him to take the time to be with us. senator, thanks for being here. we mentioned it briefly in the intro. but please explain to our viewers why you think of sanders violated state law procedure. and tell us about the current status of the case. >> good morning katie, thanks for having me on. you laid it out very simply. and it's no more complicated than that. it's worth past a few years ago as the 1808. which became florida's 1908. and the other was a general preparations budget. for this upcoming fiscal year. and very simply, $12 million out of our hundred nine billion dollar budget. was allotted specifically to transport and facilitate the transport of unauthorized aliens from the state. obviously this taping florida. and the government has flouted that law. his own party, and his own directive, the bill was

drafted. and. carried and passed. and signed into law. and, it very simply had very simple requirements. the department of transportation as they implement a program, at least two beds from two contractors. to go ahead and fallacy the program. but here we are with a very simple question. those from venezuela that the governments, the lieutenant governor. has said repeatedly and within the last 38 days. these people live under a tyrannical regime. they suffered under dictatorship. these are asylum seekers, not on earth resilience. number one. number two, 40 people getting motels, haircuts, and mcdonald's. is not from the state. this is their own law. and they set their own rules. they had the majority. and they couldn't even comply with it. on the other side, the second bill basically said that the state, no government entity can enter anti type of contract with a contract carrier to willfully transport

unauthorized aliens into the state. so here we are, and if we get a fair hearing this upcoming week in tallahassee. the question is gonna be asked. and the state has to decide. are these aliens, or an author's aliens. and try to draw some nexus, and convince the court that these people are from florida. >> so jason let's talk about that nexus. all of the flights charted by desantis briefly touched down on an airfield in crestview florida. on the way from texas, to martha's vineyard. does that help desantis in the fact that these migrants are being moved out of florida? >> well. the other night about -- i had a law school student in crestview, florida. where the planes trust down. send me an email. prefacing that he had an aviation law last semester. but the short answer is no. it's not briefly. and under federal statute, 49, 46, five or one. a plane still in-flight, even if it makes us of and doesn't allow for this embarking of the passengers.

or in other, words is a force landing. no case here. no other migrants, or people, entered the plane in florida. just touchdown. but they're gonna try to say that that qualifies as being from florida. >> senator, the florida department of transportation has made the payments to air charter company versatile systems. they now total almost one point $6 million in order to transport these migrants. some of the money was from the flight that actually went to delaware, nor knows what's happening with that. but they're saying that virtual systems was legally represented by congressman matt gates. also larry keith, who is florida safety says are, in charge of immigration policy. how did desantis justify spending this money when they don't even have enough insurance to protect floridians from the hurricane that's barreling down on the state in the next few days? >> he can't. and if he's doing so with a straight face that he's very good at being disingenuous to his base. that's averaging about $32,000

per flight. per person. 1,000,005 60. it's inexcusable. it's twice as much as, it's four years of the state tuition at florida state university. how do you justify that when a hurricane is barreling down on us in the state of florida. propping insurance prices. people can't renew, it's not sustainable. it's a political stunt. and now he's simply saying with all the things that you've mentioned. i read the same, i'm sure if you go down the rabbit hole, it becomes more nefarious. but i'm simply saying listen. you guys set out the parameters. the rules of the game. the size of the field. what's inbounds, and what is out of bounds. and you can't even comply with? it and this isn't something that is 25, 32 years old. the statute that salutes interpretation. that is not being followed. this is their law as a member of the legislature. i voted for the budget in that section. 1200. nine billion. it does not vote for the anti-immigration bill. and they have to now decide how they're going to try to land

this. no pun intended. . >> florida state senator jason, i appreciate you hustling to join us this morning. i will tell our viewers. you filed this lawsuit as a citizen, and taxpayer of the state of florida. thank you for doing. that will keep close tabs on the development. and again thanks for being here. coming up! ginni thomas agrees to meet with the january six committee. and i'm sure that they will have a lot to ask her, that is, if she shows up. so what do i think should happen? my comments after the break! after the break! me? about 1000. walgreens...millions. ♪♪ i cannot miss her big debut. with your booster, i think you'll be there. for every twirl. i got a shot so my sister won't get sick. way to go, big bro! so while we're here... flu shot, as well? let's do it. when you need to talk vaccinations, our pharmacists are here ♪♪

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committee has talked to, who either witnessed, or were actively involved in the multiple plots and schemes to keep donald trump in power there is one name that to me, remains a glaring omission to this ever expanding list of interviewees ginni thomas >> so for months. on the show. i haven't held back on what i think should be done about ginni thomas. and the scandal surrounding her so-called activism you know, trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. but we'll, we finally got something. thomas, wife of the supreme court justice, clarence thomas, has voluntarily agreed to talk with the january six committee. and that is good news, assuming that it actually happened and assuming that she actually tells the truth. but even if it does, i am not about to go away quietly. committee chairman, betty thompson, was asked about when this interview of ginni thomas may happen. in response, he said, there is

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watching the katie fang show, i'll see you back here tomorrow a at 7 am on, next, up ellisville she starts next. he starts next >> today on velshi, the walls are closing in on donald trump. the adults have entered the courtroom. they're dealing blow after blow to trump's increasingly ludicrous explanations. for all those classified documents the feds seized from his florida golf club. the latest ruling clears the path for the justice department to continue its criminal investigation without delay, and no matter how earnestly the form