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good morning i'm ali velshi, and it is saturday the 24th. it is day 213 of russia's brutal and barbaric war on ukraine which, remember, putin planned would take all of three days would capture the capital. something that never happened. if you need more proof on just how brutal and barbaric this war, is take a look at this front page headline out of msnbc news.com this morning. russian troops raped and tortured children in ukraine, against the backdrop of the un general assembly, a new report about the independent national crumpet -- commission inquiry of documents scores of war crimes committed in ukraine. among, them children as young as four years old have been, quote, raped and tortured and unlawfully confined, including, quote, examples of cases where relatives were forced to witness the crimes. the un commission also adds that they were struck by the large number of executions in the areas that we visited, and quote. now, remember, this quote only

covers areas that the commission had access to. russian occupied areas were off limits to them. imagine, for example, the horrors that await in mariupol. or the hell currently ongoing there in four regions of ukraine. over on the right side, the parts in red, those four regions. donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhia, and kherson. none of which are completely under russian control and all of which have major active battlefields fighting. russian forces are holding a staged, rushed, sham referendum for those areas to join russia. i say rushed because the u.s. intelligence reveals that these votes were initially planned for several weeks from now. but they are being held now because of russia's ongoing battlefield losses. and other setbacks. voting, by the, way in these sham referendum started on friday, going on until tuesday, although russian state media run agency task, says there is no voting at polling stations and places until tuesday.

on the other, hand voting officials will take ballots directly to people's homes. although some impromptu polling places, as you can see here, have been set up seemingly specifically for russian state media to use for propaganda purposes. that is what you are watching right now. multiple reports reveal that the so-called election workers, by the, way are being flanked when they go door to door by russian soldiers, wearing balaclavas and holding guns. and that group stands watch during the voting. the results of a so-called voting, if the pro-russian voting -- authorities even bother to count the votes at all will be announced after this five-day period. it is unclear to me why they bother to wait. the results could be revealed right now. or even on thursday, before the voting began. because the result was never in doubt. it will be overwhelmingly in favor of joining russia. what this russian referendum is just a justification for putin to expand his war, which is going very badly for his side. it is a direct echo of what

took place in crimea in 2014, when russia invaded, installed russian forces as officials held a sham referendum and illegally annexed crimea. and once again, this sham vote goes in favor of russia. russia will claim to annex these four regions as part of mainland russia. the kremlin even says that on attack on these areas will be considered an attack on mainland russia. and would trigger a response from russia. already, right now, russia is literally rounding up several hundreds of thousands of russians to deploy to ukraine, following putin's mobilization announcement on wednesday. the kremlin has offered vague details about who will be drafted. the mobilization, which by the, way russia has only done twice since the start of the 20th century, for world war i and world war ii, we'll call up 300,000 soldiers. although it is widely reported that this figure could go as high as 1 million. conscripts. this mobilization is extremely unpopular, even with

prohibition commentators. people are attempting to get out of the country on mass. any flight out of the country for places that don't require a visa, like armenia and turkey, are now impossible to get. and any land exits, like georgia, kazakhstan, finland, and mongolia, are experiencing backups at the borders stretching for miles. and demonstrators have taken to the streets. russian officials say more than 1000 arrested so far. several even reported they were given conscription papers while in police custody. that some of that the public kremlin has defended. there are reports of arson at recruiting stations. telegrams used among the citizenry to report the whereabouts of recruiting officers, as they literally roam the streets of moscow snatching recruits off of -- of fighting -- age off of the street. under new russian law, by the, way failure to comply with conscription, or desertion, is punishable by ten years in prison. and all of this comes as russia continues to lose ground and suffer setbacks on the

battlefield. so badly that reports indicate vladimir putin himself is now giving direct battlefield orders from his perch, far away from the fighting. he is an autocratic dictator in the most dangerous place possible, with his back against the wall. retired lieutenant colonel, director of european affairs, for the security council, he is a security adviser, and the author of the important book. here, right matters. good to see you. thank you for being with us. we have seen reports over the last few weeks. this war is going poorly for russia. people are turning against vladimir putin. narendra modi and xi jinping, to people who have been stalwarts, expressing concern. now, this referenda and these conscription, tell me your thoughts. >> yeah, thanks for having me on, so, you know, it's actually pretty shocking that this

referendum is even occurring. it is another in a series of major mistakes. i would have thought that some sort of preservation or calculated decision-making would go against this kind of referendum. because it would undermine the stash of crimea, and maybe ward off ukrainians, attempting to liberate crimea. but he's doing this as a major bluff. that is what this should be considered, a major bluff to indicate that it is part of russia, and there is a threat of some sort of nuclear inflation. so that is a very, very, farfetched notion. we should not be dismissive of this nuclear battle. russia has a very deeply developed nuclear doctrine, far more developed than we are. we tend to do ours with response, to some sort of a nuclear incident. but they do this as a matter of force in terms of their military objectives, to support their political objectives. but we are still very very far

off from nuclear isolation. that's what this is. major bluffs to get the west to back down, get the ukraine to back down. it's not going to work. but it's not shocking that he's pursuing this course of action. and i'm gonna call it right, now it's gonna be 90% support for this referendum according to his results. >> yeah, of course, very similar to what happened in crimea. let's talk about the nuclear escalation. putin has brought it up a few times including where before he launched this war. and, you and i have both talked about the fact that the world has to proceed with condemning countries that have overrun sovereign countries. and you and i both face exactly the same criticism, exactly the same time, you cannot be dismissive of the fact that not only has -- does he have nuclear weapons, but he talks about using them. you can not, say he's been dismissive of them. how does he square these things? he says he'll use them, and yet we have to continue to help

ukraine out of the situation. >> we have to be ready. that is the fundamental principle, be ready. we have a fully capable nuclear response -- whenever we have to get to that point -- hopefully we never have to get close so i think that's the first thing. and the russians are aware of this. we have to have the rhetoric, and actions, the support that postures to ward off russian aggression. and we are doing that both in the u.s. and the secretary of stoltenberg from nato, this would be an major escalation. this would be a severe response from nato. russians may have perceived it in the past based on their reactions to the democratic world, nato in support of ukraine -- both economic sanctions and weapons provisions. and, in addition to that, there seems to be a lot of conversations behind the scenes. telling russians that this is a

nonstarter. this is not about an approach. they cannot escalate themselves of the scenario. i think these are the principal courses of action we need to take to ward off. russia bottom line, this is a massive bluff, and we will see the results of this bluff within a matter of weeks. ukrainians are not going to stop taking their territory, liberating their territory. and russians are going to be put in a position where they have to take some sort of action. and it's not going to be escalatory. that's why they're calling up these troops, 300,000 to start. it seems like a farfetched notion right now. >> what is the likelihood of internal pressure on vladimir putin causing something to change? because it seems like there are protests that we have not seen in the last eight months were occurring and rational right now because you can't protest a war that you can't name. and yet the calling up these troops seems to trigger a lot

of protesting in russia. >> that's an interesting question. i think it's the fact that putin still has an enormous amount of leverage and pressure he can bring to bear on their population. he controls all of the levers of law enforcement, security apparatus, but it is a pressure cooker. there is so much you can do. there is only so much true presents that you can apply to this situation. to me, in a lot of ways, for a historical perspective, this rhymes with the situations that occurred in russia's revolution in 1917. you have a very unpopular war, with more people being mobilized and armed, to fight that war, and you have population bits, discontent with the direction. eventually, i think this is going to break the dam. and we will see some actions. what i think is a precursor, more street violence, and military and political violence in response to the

mobilization. 's we will see these times types of things to unfold in greater numbers. but for the time being we imagine that putin is in a precarious situation. we will go on with this for months before we see anything cleared. >> alexander, thank you for joining us this morning. appreciate you matching my shirt on tv. it literally gets more important with each passing day and thank you for being with us this morning. we will continue this conversation in a moment with tim kaine who introduced a bill to ban ukraine from any territory. we begin with the politics in play, midterm elections here, and michael cohen is personally accredited by the attorney

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running mate in the 2016 elections as well. thank you for being with us. >> glad to be with you, thanks. >> you heard what colonel vindman said, we could've had the results of this referendum yesterday, there's not gonna be any surprises as to how this turns out. but you have introduced a bill, and president biden has said so, in the un, this is not a viable referendum. it does not make sense. we're not gonna be recognizing that as part of russia. and a lot of people in the un went further than that. president biden saying, it's not supposed to happen. we in the un have decided that countries don't take over other sovereign countries. and the whole concept of the fact that russia is on the security council, this kind of thing in the future should be disallowed. if somebody invades another country, they should be booted. >> if this is allowed, the un has no purpose. it has absolutely no meaning. this is why the un was created. and we are allowing russia to get any traction with his bogus arguments, about the need for, this we cannot allow it.

my read of the un general assembly is that isolation and rejection, law you see nations a with china that have been isolated for their own anti-democratic activities. you see these protests in iran. by courageous women tired of being kicked around by liberal 80, police, and the dictatorial government. it was popular sentiment against tyrants these days, and the un has to be clear and not a model about where the international community stands. russia is the lead example. there are many other situations in the world where being strong against russian authoritarianism sends a message to others. >> senator, what do you make of the concerns that people have, and valid concerns, that rush it continues to say if our

sovereignty and if anybody attacks these places they will soon decide that they're going to be part of russia, it will be considered an attack on russia and hence russia will use any defenses it has but once again putin talked about his weapons this week. how do, you as someone in the arms services committee and someone who understands the world well process that. >> i think it's a bluff. the use of nuclear weapons, ali, would pose massive fallout risk to russian citizens and using nuclear weapons anywhere in this theater is not just going to invite and coordinate an international response that would be overwhelmingly catastrophic for russia but the use of nuclear weapons also poses followed risk in russia so i think it's a big bluff. putin is dangerous because he has his back against the wall

and he had a plan to topple the ukrainian government in three days. it's gone so poorly. he's been humiliated before the entire world. she jinping, before the beijing olympics, now it's kind of a joke. and xi jinping is backing away from him. everybody knows it and putin knows that they know it so he's in a tough spot, but i think the use of nuclear weapons has much more downstream negative consequence for putin's hold on power than it does for other nations. >> when we look at these things overseas, we mentioned the struggle over there. we look at the struggle for democracy. nbc earlier this week came out with the news poll. showing the threat to democracy is the single most -- what do you make of this? stretch democracy actually out ranking cost of living and jobs

in the economy, by some distance, also immigration? >> i really, i will tell, you it is a very strange moment. i'm 64 years, old you would never see a poll where this is the top issue. of course, we are all defending democracy. i was at an event yesterday at the university of virginia where they were giving out an annual defenders of democracy award. now, normally if you go to a banquet, or an awards ceremony like that, the person giving the award is a tibetan human rights activist. a hong kong pro democracy movement and the award winners yesterday were several capitol police officers, and three of them were given posthumously, those who defended us on january 6th. threats to democracy might be putin or ukraine or it might be donald trump embracing qanon theories in promoting violence. we see them at home, we see

democracies in the world, and showing maybe a period where we were taking it for granted. we were showing the capacity to battle for it, nations for battling for it as well. >> we should be grateful for those fighting for it making us aware of how serious the matter is. senator, thank you for joining us. this is a democrat from virginia. up, next the law of the land, republican governors up in arms, steady stream of migrants, finding refuge in this country. flying dozens of them as political stance. but you know what? seeking asylum isn't the crime. denying someone's right to do so, actually is. , actually is. riders! let your queries be known. yeah, hi. instead of letting passengers wrap their arms around us, could we put little handles on our jackets? -denied. -can you imagine? i want a new nickname. can you guys start calling me snake? no, bryan. -denied. -how about we all get quotes

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at the same time, a group of journalists, community groups, and volunteers gathered in the small airport. a place called georgetown, delaware, not far from joe biden's home. they all received whole word that a plane load of migrants, with a one-way take it aboard to see -- was on their way. after the florida governor charted two planes from san antonio, in texas, to martha's vineyard, massachusetts, without any warning, delaware was going to be prepared for desantis's next move in the twisted game of gotcha. officials in delaware had no itinerary to walk work off of. they were on this tracking site with any joe schmo accessing. officials watched as a little airplane icon which was originally sought to travel from texas to florida, and then to georgetown, landed in nashville, tennessee. and finally, and teterboro, new jersey, which is just for us across the river in manhattan. no migrants on the plane. desantis had stoked the cold of law --

confirming nor denying the flight, or saying whether it was carrying migrants. the office later refused to say if it was landing in new jersey, relocating migrants. i'm sure he's pretty pleased with himself. they pulled off a hilarious stunt in order to cause less confusion. there is nothing funny about playing with peoples lives. also the shuttle to martha's vineyard law, a court according to the legal group, most of them were asylum seekers or planned to be. so, let me let you in on a little secret. it's not obvious given how these migrants were treated. seeking asylum is not a crime. seeking refuge for persecution in another country is not a crime. being a migrant is not a crime. you know what is a crime? denying refugees the opportunity to seek asylum in the u.s.. the american government is bound by international law to

provide protection to refugees. more than, that but let me give you the story. world war ii left a colossal crisis in its wake. in 1951, dozens of the un countries signed the convention relating to the status of refugees. better known as the geneva convention of 1951. over the next decade or so, the global refugee landscape changed, so the un general assembly essentially amended the 1951 convention, with the 1967 protocol, for refugees. and that is when the united states signed on? treaties defined the term refugees, established rights of refugees, and outlined the legal obligations of -- granting asylum. the u.s. adopted these terms into american immigration law, with the refugee act of 1980. so as a signatory of the 1967 particle, and through its own immigration law, america is

legally obligated to provide asylum to those who qualify as refugees. an important point that we will discuss later. qualifying, it means once applying for refugee status, refugee claimants need to go through a legal process. one that has been backed up for years, because of a shorter -- shortage of personnel. including judges. it is a legal process. but the backup is not the fault of the refugees. entitling to legal protection, years long processes, playing out. ron desantis and immigration hard-liners, these people have the right to request asylum in america. now, these are plenty of people, like if a judge denies asylum and citizenship, and complying the law that is another story. but simply asking for protection in a nation that is legally obligated to provide it

is not against the law. it is, in fact, the way of the world. applying for asylum in america is not an easy process, both the u.s. asylum and immigration processes are arduous and they are confusing. there are language barriers. many refugees come here fatigued after a long journey. and after experiencing violence, hunger, rape, human trafficking, and other horrors. then, they need to communicate those fears to a border guard and judges convincing them that if they were returning to their home country they would without a doubt faith persecution, based on either race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. even then, even then many who fit the description of refugee, and have valid reasons for fleeing their countries, are in fact denied asylum by america. most are. according to data collected by fact-check dot org, only 15% of asylum cases were granted in 2019. imagine overcoming all of those things i just listed, you make

it to america, and then at the beck and call of someone from florida, being shifted from state to state as a pawn in a political game you have nothing to do with. i'm sure you all know this, but i'm sure some americans need to be reminded that america is, was, and remains a largely a country of migrants. some willing, many forced. but migrants in the. and in this case, if it's an obstruction to, you all you've to do is look around, look at the, faces that you pass on the street. the people at the bank, or in line at the grocery store. look at your own friends and family, and many people in this nation. most of the people in this nation are a product of migration. human beings, with rights, their quest for freedom, justice, liberty, and equality, mirroring the basic tenets of this nation. their existence is not a crime. and innovative ways to make your e-tron your own. through elegant design and progressive technology.

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break signify lynn is not a crime. america is required to protect and provide -- for refugees. you know who is facing legal action? on desantis. thousands shipped as a ponds and his political stunt, accusing him. he violated constitutional protections and several federal statutes, because, news flash, if you're in the u.s., whether you are a citizen or not, your rights are actually protected under the u.s. constitution, and by u.s. law. joining me now is a veteran journalist, professor of political science at nyu shanghai. host of the world affairs podcast. the leading voice on immigration reporting. covering migrants asylum seekers, and foreign policy for decades. my good friend, thank you for being with us. i need to talk to you about, this, right because this is a multi layered issue. these go back a long time. there is issues with americas

border that go back a long time. there are lots and lots of different issues but. some people like rhonda santas and greg abbott and others have lumped this altogether and have created among some americans the impression that coming to america to seek asylum because you had a bad life somewhere else is a crime. it is not even close to a climb. it is legally supported activity. >> and you know, to listen to governor desantis, governor abbott and arizona, you would think the u.s. is the only country in the world to prayer bear this burden. but tens of millions of people are on the move, around the globe. fleeing war, fleeing climate change. fleeing persecution. millions have fled ukraine just this year. close to 80 lebanese are now dead after their boat capsized in the eastern mediterranean, as they were fleeing economic chaos in their home country. millions of syrians are out of their homes. where do you get the idea?

that the united states is alone among the nations of the world, being asked to bear this burden? we are a country that is rich enough to handle it. many of the countries that are taking on hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions, of refugees can't afford it in the way that we can. i don't know what they are trying to accomplish with this. especially in the case of governor desantis. venezuelans have been heavily courted by the republican party, in south florida. for their anti left views, anti socialist views. and the republican party has made a value proposition to them, saying we are your guys. now they are playing around with people fleeing venezuela? as millions flee venezuela, most of them are in columbia, ecuador, peru, they are not in the united states. >> context in history is important here, because when we have seen, over time, waves of

immigrants wherever they are, from there have been very similar responses from america. and in particular, prior to and around world war ii when a lot of jews were coming here, the argument was, this isn't really our problem and it can be solved closer to where they are. culturally, they're not like. us they may not speak the same language. it is the same old same old excuses all the time. and, yet america is an example of a country in which we can, we actually can absorb a lot of people. i'm not saying that we should be absorbing every last person who claims to be a refugee. but, in fact, most people who are evaluated to be refugees in america don't even win the right to stay here. we do have a process. the idea that these people just come in and disappear into america is not true either. >> yes, there was a little bit of a rhetorical three card monty being played. around the texas refugees, picked up. the venezuelans who are brought to martha's vineyard.

they have been processed, they were legally allowed to be in the country. and bizarrely, they were in florida. they weren't in texas. but the governor used access to florida funds, meant to, that were appropriated to, get illegal immigrants out of florida. for the purpose of going to a third party state, and moving to people yet another state. and saying the liberals have martha's vineyard would go berserk when they got there. but when they didn't go berserk, when people got help, and got processed and more intact networks off the island of massachusetts, again they went crazy and went talking -- started talking about how they had been deported by the u.s. military. we have been in a really really weird situation. >> right, thank you for your time, i always appreciate talking to about these

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about antifa and the left. >> you remember that moment, right? that was the moment up far-right street gang, graduated from the fringe, to the mainstream. as a new book puts it, the proud boys went ballistic when they heard their name on the big stage from none other than donald trump for himself. the author says, proud boys leaders were ready to take orders. trump and his allies scoffed at the insinuation that they'd incited a street gang, but it didn't matter what they thought. the proud boys were convinced they'd been mobilized by the president. and quote. that is just months before january 6th, 2021. members of the proud boys would help organize a violent insurrection of the u.s. capital. but, as any campbell reports in his new book, we are proud boys, a new -- street getting ushered in american extremism, the problem originated earlier than the election. people just weren't paying attention. a future of the proud boys, which campbell describes as the

most successful extremist group in the digital age, looks as bright as ever. and he writes, quote, in the short time they created a rubric in which any group could feasibly go from street level fight going into a neo-fascist enforcement arm of an entire political party, or at least do some work to sanitize their image. the proud boys playbook will continue on without, them and other lesser extremist groups are already starting to take close, with varying degrees of success. as it stands today, we are looking at a hardened nation, a hardened national movement, of violent men bag -- banded together over bigoted causes. and now, with years of experience under their belt, leading other groups of violent men into battle. and quote. andy campbell joins me now. he is a senior editor for the huffington post, where he covers extremism, misinformation, and the intersection with politics. as i mentioned, author of the book. we are proud boys, a right-wing street gang ushered in a new era of american extremism.

andy, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. it's a pleasure. >> as you said, the proud boys are in the news, they have a very good year. >> absolutely, i mean, the proud boys see them fill -- see themselves as an enforcement arm of the gop, and take their orders from the rhetoric of donald trump and fox news. and they have normalized this six year parade of violence that has gone by by securing relationships within the gop, and upper levels. so it is through those relationships that the proud boys are allowed to continue these violence, we are not seeing this just in my got rallies anymore, but in every day american life. we are seeing abortion clinics, and children's hospitals, and libraries where people have drag queen story hours. and whatever tucker carlson and trump are complaining about you can bet that the proud boys will be out in the street fighting it.

>> at some point, do these groups that inside the proud boys not cite -- say to themselves, this might be too far, or we are going to unleash something that will cause real problems? i, mean the gop and fox news and others can say, nothing to do the with these people, they have nothing to do with us. these are extremist group of wackos. >> absolutely not. the gop has not rebuffed them. trump certainly has not rebuffed them. they haven't rebuffed any extremists. the violence they've committed, as a defense. you know, against the leftist threat that fox news is about. you're going to see, through extremist candidates on american ballots, what the american public is accepting in terms of political violence, and extremism going forward. >> i want to read a quote from the book about the birth of the proud boys. you were referring to gavin

mcguinness, who is one of the founders of the proud boys. also, somebody who might readers might know from vice. in his vision of america, everyone has a gun and stands prepared to shoot looters during the riots in ferguson, quote, this is not in gavin's words, or in any effing riots this year. welfare, which he likened to giving black people money to dump their boyfriends, is abolished. the borders are closed because, according to mcginiss, if you think immigrants are sweethearts just coming here to clean your house, you are an effing more on, and quote. and americans would, venerate their house flags -- women for declining fertility rates. this is meander neanderthal stuff. it is racist, and neanderthal stuff. the point you make in your book is, before being on the fringes, was that the moment it became mainstream? when donald trump talked about it on the main stage? >> i think it's the moment when the american public saw this stuff but this rhetoric has been around forever.

and, what gavin mcinnis did is he cast a wide net. i want all kinds of bigots under my belt and i'm going to promise them that they can take their rage, that is usually saved for online spaces today, they can take that out in the street, and fight it. and again, because of those relationships that they have built, they are able to commit them selves to violence and be celebrated by a swath of right wing pundits and politicians, as soldiers, for trump and his ideology. >> i am curious about the relationships. you interviewed roger stone for this book. he revealed that, exclusively, he had been advising the proud boys for years. he told, you quote, one ally is repeated enough times over and over again by these powerful assets, you get unfairly labeled. and i think that's what happened in the proud boys. they are racist, they're white supremacists, the violent, the criminal. no, none of these things are true. not in my experience. >> that just goes to show you how much you, know, the gop has

embraced this stuff. they see what is happening on tv. we all do. and even following january 6th when everything came to a head. people like and coulter are writing salivating blogs saying thank god for the proud boys, thank god for the defense from the leftist threat. clearly this is coming for the leftist right. roger stone's friends with enrique, the current chairman, and is sitting behind bars waiting for his sedition trial. >> it's incredible to hear the words coming out of your mouth, that the head of the proud boys, chairman of the proud boys, is awaiting trial, awaiting sentencing for his conviction on sedition, we are having this discussion in 2022. thank you andy, for coming in today, he is a senior editor at huffington post and the author of we are proud boys. a right-wing street gang,

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caribbean and bermuda, it has made landfall in canada. the atlantic coast slammed with heavy winds and rains. one of the strongest storms ever to hit canada, and according to the region's power outage center, thousands of residents are without electricity and clean while the gulf coast braces for another tropical system. right, now tropical storm ian is turning in the caribbean sea.

-- it's expected to hit the golf, as a category three hurricane sometime next week. in order to prepare the governor of florida has declared a state of emergency in 24 counties. ahead of eons landfall. for more on both of these storms, i'm joined by meteorologist mystal grossman. good morning to you, nice to see you, every time i see we are talking about devastating hurricanes. tell me about the storm that has basically hit nova scotia. >> hey, there ally, normally were talking much earlier this season but it's been a slow start. and things are heating up now. it made landfall overnight and it's a strong storm, extra tropical meaning it has a cold core now. it's a strong storm, a devastating storm, with big wins. it'll be the main story with the next couple. days we share some pictures out of the burnt islands, canada, coastal community, houses are

literally in the sea. we are looking at devastating conditions. 85 miles an hour, still strong, we are seeing winds gust higher. those are sustained winds. these are tracks of fiona. it will continue in atlantic canada, we look for winds gusting 900 miles in some spots. we also look at heavy rain, ten inches in some communities. so, it's really a tough weekend there. we have hurricane warnings, tropical storm warnings, and that is because we are looking at those high winds. now, winds gusting over 109 in some spots, that is in canada, but in maine, we see strong storms there. winds gusting at tropical storm force speeds. power lines coming down, trees coming down, remember, there is leaves on the trees. it's just the second day of fall and we will see those coming down. we have power outages in canada. that is fiona, and you know, this we have covered so many storms, we are an expert on this as well. we are looking at a big story that will impact florida over the next week or so. first we are looking at 45 mile

per hour winds. overnight, it was tropical depression, notice it is really really warm for the next couple days, and we do expect to make that they came out cayman islands impacts the next day or so. we do have hurricane impacts in the cayman islands in terms of the winds. jamaica, you will see a tropical storm watch. that is in effect right now. we see winds gusting up to 90 miles an hour. we can see really severe flooding, but look at the track as we go through time. tropical storms still still sunday 1 am, we look at a category one storm. then, it starts to go over cuba we expected to become a category two storm. we are looking at a category three storm as it enters the gulf and it could impact florida as early as the winds a category two storm. >> michelle, thank you, good to see you, msnbc news, a man who

spent years inside the trump organization, as the personal attorney and fixer. cohen was specifically credited by the -- aren't estimation and he has gotten a lot to say. he joins me in just a few moments, another hour of velshi begins right now. >> good morning, it's saturday september 24th. 9 am in the, east examine the west. i'm ali velshi. right, now most people know that you cannot take anything that comes out of donald trump's mouth at face value. he talks a lot. but add superfluous superlatives to everything he says about his businesses, in the past he has boasted about having the best words about making the most perfect phone calls, about being the richest, most successful, and he alone was capable of fixing the biggest problems. that has gotten far in life, but now the twice impeached insurrection