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on the saturday afternoon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. boy, we have a lot to cover over the next couple of hours. spewing qanon conspiracies, the former president, once again, using these blatant lies at a political rally last night. plus, what his lawyers are doing to stop the federal grand jury that is investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 elections. plus, the fate of the former president and his organization. i'm going to ask michael cohen, you see him right there, what he thinks is going to happen to his former boss after that fraud lawsuit was filed against him and his family by new york's attorney general. and then his reaction to laetitia james's shout out and the inside information he gave during a congressional hearing. tracking 20 storms, everybody. right now, more than half 1 million canadians without power, as the nation's east coast takes the brunt of what was hurricane fiona. the dangerous problems residents are facing their and separate from that, by the way,

the two dozen counties currently in a state of emergency in florida. as a new tropical storm is headed their way. and in iran, we are watching the demonstrations unfold for an eighth straight day. an inside look at the crackdown by authorities after a 22-year-old woman who, according to the hospital where she was taken, died three days after police took her into custody. what the u.s. treasury department says it will do to support protesters. we've got a lot going on today. what we do want to start of course with, is a former president seeming to further embrace qanon during his north carolina rally, yesterday doubling down on the choice to speak over a song that is identical to qanon's theme song. and even making some qanon related posts on his social media platform. this is all coming as the january 6th committee is gearing up for another hearing coming up this wednesday. and in the wake of new york ag, letitia james's suit against former president over alleged

business fraud. to break it all down, we want to bring in nbc correspondent, simone hillyard and ali raf as. well, along with msnbc legal analyst, -- hey, let me start with you on this one -- if you would, talk us more about the former presidents continued embrace of qanon. he seems to which he's doubling down on it now. one of their signs we saw last night and on social media. >> right, i was at that rally last night in north carolina, yasmin. we were waiting to see at the end of his rally whether he would yet again play this song that is essentially identical to the qanon theme song, which he played for the first time one week ago. now, if he had attempted to plea any ignorance to knowing that that song was viewed by qanon followers as being the qanon theme song, he would've not played it again when we cleared it last night. but yet, he did just that. and folks up in the crowd, they put a pointer finger up in the air, which is an ode to the

qanon movement here. i think we got to be very clear about the depths of what qanon is here. before we do that, i want to just let you hear a little bit apart of that song, and a part of that moment, as trump finished his speech last night. take a listen. >> but now, we are a nation in decline. we are a failing nation. we are a nation that has the highest inflation in 50 years, and where the stock market finish the worst first half of the year since 1872. >> in an online platforms already, folks are clogging within the qanon movement about him signaling again yesterday, and doubling down on a playing that song there. again, when we are talking about qanon, we are talking about a very dark set of conspiracy theories here. one which donald trump is either still the president, or in an effort to reclaim power,

works with the military to go and conduct mass arrests of not only government officials, democrats, hollywood figures, other elites. rounds them up in a mass arrest, sends them to guantánamo bay, and executes them for treason. it sounds like wild conspiracy theories because they are, and they are as dark and as violent as they sound. in the last month, donald trump, for the first time, has overtly and explicitly embrace not only there at his rallies, but also posting cute memes online here. this is a dark, dangerous path. we've already seen violence conducted by individuals that have gone and spiraled down these qanon paths here. we have seen kidnappings, we have seen families being broken apart. this is telling that right now, the leader of the republican party is so directly embracing this movement, yasmin. >> all right, so putting that in a bucket of incredibly troubling, amongst all the things regarding the former president, ali, let me go to this one as we are looking at, of course, to wednesday and another january six hearing.

i guess the question is, what are we going to hear? possibly the last of all these january 6th hearings from our understanding, right? you have, of course, now this news, it seems, where the former president's attorneys are trying to block the grandeur from getting some information. talk us through that. >> yeah, yasmin. well, just to put all this into context here, it's been more than two months since the committee's last hearing. in those two months, as you laid out at the top there, the news cycle has been dominated by headlines about the former president. so the, committee knows there's a very high bar of expectations they have to meet in this next and never say likely last public hearing for them to break through that news cycle. while they have not released the theme of this hearing on wednesday, they are giving us some hints, some bread crumbs that we could follow as far as what to expect. they are saying that what will be presented on wednesday will put more meat on the bones of storylines that we already have been familiar with in past hearings, that have not been really capped off yet. they say that they have more

information about communications and movements by secret service on january 6th that they had before that august recess break in hearings. they also say that the hearing will likely focus a lot on violent extremism that we saw on january 6th. possibly even trump ally, roger stone's, actions on that day. this is something that congressman and committee member, jamie raskin, talked about yesterday as far as how roger stone fits into the larger picture of the investigation the committees undergoing. listen here. >> roger stone though is the classic. i mean, he's basically spent his whole career at that toxic nexus between gop power elite and then fascist street fighters. >> why does he matter in the january six stories? >> well, stay tuned for that because he's someone who, i

think, he's someone who i think saw where things were going. >> and he has been, stone has denied any involvement on january 6th. but he has refused to speak with the committee about that. he's even sued members of the committee to block complying with a subpoena. but we do know that he's a close ally of members of the proud boys, and oath keepers, those far-right groups that play such a huge role in the attack on the capitol. so, it'll be interesting to see how much of what we already knew from past hearings will play into what we are possibly, what we will possibly learn on wednesday, yasmin. ali if you could look tackle on that before i go to barbara on this, this idea that we are learning now about the former president's attorneys blocking the granbury from getting more information when it comes to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. what do we know about how they are doing this? >> yeah, so in relation to the january 6th committee's investigation into what, you know, the overturning of the

election, that's something that the january six committee has definitely been interested in and looking into. and has already tried to look into, but unfortunately has not really gotten any information on that, in that respect, yasmin. >> all right, barbara real quick, if you could jump in here on this, do you know anything about what's happening here? do they have the ability to block the grandeur from gaining more information on this? >> well, it appears from reporting that trump's lawyers are asserting executive privilege as to some of the testimony. it came up during the testimony as some of the top aides to mike pence when they went to testify. and so, it is a proper assertion. she's judge of the court that is overseeing the grand jury, is there to resolve any disputes when someone refuses to comply with the subpoena or assert some sort of privilege. now, if the courts follow precedent, the united states versus nixon, that case helped that even where executive privilege comes into play, it is outweighed by a criminal

investigation in a grand jury matter. that is exactly what was an issue in the nixon case when a grand jury subpoena saw the nixon tapes and the supreme court held there unanimously that the executive privilege had to yield in that situation. so, i imagine that trump's lawyers are trying to block the testimony by asserting executive privilege. i am hopeful that the district court, the appellate court, and even the supreme court will follow the president of the united states versus nixon. >> let's switch gears here, if we could, barbara, for a moment. i am going to be speaking with michael cohen at the bottom of the hour. it should be an interesting interview, to say the least, if you have any questions for him barbara, throw him our way on air here. nonetheless, you write for time magazine when it comes to this suit filed by laetitia james that this may finally nail the former president. you and i have spoken a lot about this over the last couple of days since this news broke. and this has been incredibly thematic of where you have said the entire time, which is they

have, as you write in time magazine, a preponderance, it seems, of evidence. and that is why this could feasibly be open and shut, and now the former president finally talk more about

it's made landfall in eastern canada, over half of million people have large power. mostly in the provinces of nova scotia and prince edward island. canadian authorities, they are already claiming that fiona could be one of the strongest storms to ever hit the country. and then we have tropical storm in, continuing to move north towards florida, where it could make landfall by mid week or so. governor ron desantis, declaring state of emergency for 24 counties on friday, and urging residents to prepare for him back. we want to bring in pete nbc meteors meteorologist, bill -- let start with fiona, right? what's kind of beginning to be behind us and then we will look ahead as well to what is ahead of us. so first and foremost, with fiona, now it seems that this cyclone stage, how worried should folks be, especially in canada? >> i would say probably about 90% of the damage has been done and the cleanup in some areas

is already beginning. the winds are beginning to come down. you can see how huge and immense this storm is. you can see where maine is located here the, storm will slowly be moving over newfoundland later on tonight. so, it's still a day where, again, some lighter tree damage, i, mean a lot have already lost their power, so there's not many left. unofficially, this will go down as the strongest storm ever to make landfall or move into canada. this includes the west coast of canada also. they measured pressure at 931 millibars. that's kind of the equivalent to a category four hurricane. it's very unheard of to have a storm that strong over the canadian maritimes. pete gust was just under 100 miles per hour and of course, about 80% they're estimating above nova scotia does not have power. additional wind gusts over nova scotia, 20, 30, to 50 mile per hour winds. there could be some higher gusts heading towards newfoundland. but again, the winds will be coming down with the storm, yasmin. so, it will be a cleanup period coming up. >> lots of folks now in florida banning down the hatches in

preparation for what could be to come when we are talking about tropical storm ian. so, take us there, if you will, bill. what we know? where is it headed? how worried should folks be? which way is it going to wobble? tell us what you know.

thankfully, it seems the brunt of the storm barely skipped over this area and really clobbered cities and communities to the north. specifically, like, sydney, prince edward island, cape breton, those areas sustained

major damage. homes swept into the sea. again, hundreds of thousands of people up and down the coast without power. the problem is, officials are having trouble getting to some of the areas that have the worst damage because a lot of people are without cell phone service. that has still yet to be restored. we've been speaking to a lot of people just kind of about what they've experienced. one man in particular, who's from halifax, obviously grew up in this area. most intense storm he's ever seen, and he experience it out on the water on his boat. take a listen. >> later on, the winds started picking up more and more, then -- on the way back, we cut in front of georgia's island and the waves were cresting over top to the boat and, like, just buckets and buckets of water flowing over top of us. maybe six meter waves and the way the wind was carrying them was right towards us. of course, the boat was pushing forward, so it makes a big splash, but the wind all just plows into your face. so you are getting all that water. >> that was robbed but here in

halifax. a couple things we do want to stress again. halifax, largely spared. those communities to the north, still dealing with really intense damage. officials just at a press conference in the last few minutes where they did clear up one big question that a lot of us had. no major reports of any serious injuries or deaths at this point. so, a big sigh of relief there. but again, this recovery effort just getting underway. yasmin? >> yeah, i'm sure rob was fairly happy to be here and speaking with you today, after having to go through that experience. maggie vest but, thanks for that, appreciate it. all right, turning now to the latest in abortion rights happening across the country. a judge in arizona, in fact, has ruled the state can not -- been on the books since 1864. that's before arizona was even a state. the law, which was updated in 1901, mandates a 2 to 5-year prison sentence for anyone who helps someone obtain an abortion. the only exception is if the pregnant person's life is in jeopardy. the judges ruling lifts the

objection put into place shortly after the fall of roe, an appeal is expected. meanwhile, over in indiana, abortion clinics, they are reopening after a judge there blocked the new ban from being forced. the law was passed by the republican-led legislature in august, making in the end of the first state to enact a new ban since the supreme court ruling in june. the states seven abortion clinics were set to lose their license in indiana's republican attorney general says, he will, in fact, appeal. all right everybody, if you've invested in stocks, you've got a 401k, you probably are not too happy today, right? the stock market coming off yet another rough week, to say the least. the dow jones nearly fell 500 points. narrowly avoiding bear market territory. the nasdaq, the s&p 500, also each sliding over one and a half percent. the dow has dropped close -- we got a new low for 2022. not great, not great at all. we want to bring in -- editor and chief of investopedia. folks are worried, right, about

-- caleb, worried about inflation, worried about the fear of recession on the quarry, and worried really just about any money they have invested in the market, and or in their 401k. thousands and thousands of dollars lost in a single day. right? so, what is to come? what's going on? >> yeah, over 25 trillion dollars in stock market wealth evaporated in just the last couple of months, in this extreme sell-off. so, i understand why people are worried. we should all be. we are entering this down period. the economy is slowing down, we saw that inflation at a four-year high, and the federal reserve, our central bank, is aggressively raising interest rates to try to bring down inflation. they say they're going to be added until the job is done. inflation at 8.3%, the federal shots -- we have a long way to go and a lot of great rises between now and 2%. in that process, covet profit margins are being squeezed because higher infant interest rates put a squeeze on companies profitability. that is why you are seeing investors bail out of the stock market. >> it seems like folks really

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>> that was the moment, everybody. attorney general, letitia james, referring to that very moment that sparked the investigation that we heard about on wednesday. michael cohen they're testifying before congress all the way back, can you believe, it 2019 about the alleged financial crimes of his former boss, former president of this country, donald trump. which new york ag, letitia james, has now brought forward as part of a sweeping civil suit targeting the former president, his three children, and their company for widespread business fraud. with me now to break it all down, michael cohen himself. now a host of his podcast, mea culpa, with michael cohen. and author of the soon to be released book, revenge, how donald trump weaponize the u.s. department of justice against his critics. michael, it's great to talk to you,. great to be here. a lot of folks wanted to talk to you on wednesday as a book was released. did you know is coming? >> no and i was very thankful, and i'm surprised because i was sitting in 19 watching the television, when tish james just mentioned by name and thanked me for everything that i had done. something that i had been

working on now with them, even while i was -- i was incarcerated i had the district attorney, three times, came to visit >> petros:

which corroborates the 2011, 12, 13 personal financial statements, a series of other documents that i've provided, as well as the roadmap. you see, the trump organization is really very small family real estate company. and there is only a handful of executive vice presidents. one of which was me. and nobody else, out of that group, has left. none of them have gone ahead and provided any testimony to anybody. i gave them the roadmap on who did what, where people kept documents, et cetera, et cetera. tish james his phenomenal. she took the roadmap, she followed it, and the first to file this 200 page indictment, outlining, you know, just a massive, massive fraudulent scheme. >> have you heard from anybody inside the trump camp, allen weisselberg, especially since you got out of jail? >> nothing. >> nothing? no attacks, no phone call? >> nothing. >> the overinflation of assets was astounding to me, michael.

when you look at inflating the value of trump park avenue, right? inflating it up to $130 million in real value of that being 84.5 million. mar-a-lago, 739 million. the real value, 75 million. -- says that he didn't necessarily believe it was 75. he believes is much more than that, but certainly less than 739. trump -- 291 million was inflated lu. 56 million. a lot of folks inflate the value of their assets, maybe about $100,000 or so if you are looking to get a loan. this is an egregious inflation of assets. was there ever a moment in which you said, donald, what are we doing here? we are breaking the law. how did you continue to do this and support this, really? >> so, i was tasked along allen weisselberg and i've gone through this extensively with both the da and the ag, as well as members of congress. seven different congressional committees. donald trump had tasked me the job of getting to back in the

number to how much he wanted to be worth. the goal originally was for forbes. he just wanted to be perceived as richer. there is a whole second section to this, when it came to insurance, bank loans, and so on. why i went ahead and i did it? because my boss tasked me to do it. >> you are breaking a law. you knew it, right? you knew it. >> i'm not the one who's providing the documents. i knew it was wrong, i knew the numbers were wrong. >> you knew it was financial fraud. >> yes and no. again, it's not, for me, to turn -- >> you knew it wasn't a 30,000 square foot apartment. >> by the way, i never knew that one. i had only been to the bottom, believe it or not, in my decade long time there. i had never been past the first floor. never went up to the second or third floor. so, i had no idea how it was. nor was i involved in coming up with that evaluation. the way it would work is, we

would go ahead, take a look at the asset. and then we would then figure out, what's the highest price per square foot? what's the best use of that specific property? now, i also had no knowledge about him giving away rights. that wasn't in it. when it comes to even 502 park avenue, where they were rent stabilized over in -- i had no knowledge of that. what we did is we took the highest price per square foot in the area and i believe it was the blooper building, then we applied it to the price per square foot on the trump park avenue property. so, what he chose to do with these documents, in terms of loans, yes, that is on donald. but yeah, i was involved in helping to prepare to back the number into what he wanted, using the assets that he had. >> what about the fact that he had outside assessors coming in, giving him a valuation of these properties, and he disregarded and perceived with his own valuation? >> donald trump will tell you, it's what he believes the value of the properties are.

i know that it's been written extensively in several different books, he believes that he determines, solely, determines what the value of the acid is. >> did he know he was breaking the law? >> i believe the answer is yes. he knew that he was never worth ten billion dollars. he knew exactly how much the assets were worth. he certainly knew how big the size of his apartment is. where he came up with a price per square foot never achieved in new york city, let alone not even a third of it in the building at 725 with -- have a new. absolutely. >> can we talk about the children for a moment? because eric trump in his testimony pled the fifth, right? don junior, ivanka, they did not. should we be reading into that at all, from what you know of them? >> no, so you don't know what he pled the fifth to. we do know that both don and ivanka answered certain questions. but we don't know what questions they were. we don't know what questions they didn't answer. what we do know is that eric

took the fifth on everything, as did donald, other than stating his name. >> from what we know of all the suits and investigations that are ongoing right now surrounding the former president and former boss, what do you suspect is worrying him the most? because what i know about donald trump, having been born and raised in this city, he lives inside lawsuits. i mean, he thrives in moments like this one he feels as if people are attacking him. is that accurate? >> no, it's not, not even close. in fact, he hates this. he puts on a great persona that he's stronger than anything, he's got, as he will tell you, he is very thick skin, nothing bothers him. it is not true. you can even see he doesn't look well at the moment. he realizes, i'm going to now parent -- this case with tish james is the one that's definitely keeping him up at night. he believes that the georgia case, he will be able to defeat by battling the issue of men's -- he did not know that he was

doing anything. he believed that the, you know, there were 11,700 and something folks that were stolen from him, so he was just telling him to go find me those stolen votes. not looking to break the law. the tish james case destroys him because he's has a fragile ego. his whole life, his ego, it's all about his financial wealth. that is what he played to these maga supporters all over the country. i'm really rich, i don't need anything from anybody. well, clearly we know that that is not true, which is just another lie. >> this gets at the core of his insecurity. >> yes, plus is going to end up bankrupting him the entire company. >> you think it's done? you think trump organizations over? >> i do and i will go one step further. i believe that this tish james case is going to be used in the upcoming october case against the trump organization whereby they are now going to bring donald into it, despite what allen weisselberg wants to tell

you, that he's not going to testify against donald. you cannot separate donald trump from his eponymous company. it's him. everything that was done at that company was done under his control and by his orders. >> he signed off. >> on everything. >> everything? >> everything. >> michael cohen, those of the new podcast, mea culpa, and the author of his soon to be released book, revenge, how donald trump weaponize u.s. department of justice against critics. when is the book coming out? >> october 11th. >> october 11th, hope we come back. >> i will. >> nice to talk to. up next, anti government protests continuing in iran over the death of a woman who, according to the hospital, says she died three days after police took her into custody. here live from tehran after a very quick break. tehran after very quick break very quick break d the grass is green ♪ ♪ i'm way ahead of schedule with my trusty team ♪ ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that?

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people are dead since the violence erupted last weekend. nbc's toronto bureau chief, elliott -- is joining me with the latest. ali, my friend, it's good to talk to you. i know that you are one of the only western journalists on the ground in iran right now. watching what is happening there. what have you've been seeing today? >> hello, my friend. well, we are in the eight of the protests. they continue to rage across the country. and they are not showing any signs of slowing down, yasmin. even the security presence has been spread far and wide in iran. now, almost 100 cities have been and golfed by demonstrators. they are clashing with violent security apparatus. last night was another bloody night nationwide. in iran's kurdish district, where a master army was from, several towns were completely overrun by protesters. the -- is also cracking down hard, yasmin, on the streets online, in the judiciary. today, president raisi said that the protesters should be

confronted decisively. the judiciary is telling prosecutors to hand down sentences quickly, and the internet is all -- none of the apps work, no social media works. so, people can't liaison with one another and mobilize. and most importantly, for the authorities here, they can't upload videos of these rolling crackdowns. there have been a lot of arrests, yasmin. they are being made during the day as well, when the government officials have identified people that have been going out to the protests, they've been arresting them at home and the office, indoor rooms. they've also closed down all the universities across the country because, as you know, universities in iran have traditionally been a hotbed of dissent. people are still coming out, yasmin. i have to tell you, the scenes you see on the streets of tehran, just on a normal day, with the protests are not happening is a real shock for me. women are just walking around the streets without head

scarves. they're walking i was walking around today, there was a woman who had shaved her head, dressing like she was in any other european city, just walking around. the immorality police are not sweeping them up on the streets. the situation is just too sensitive for them to do that during the day. the violence happens at night when the protests are happening. but women walking around without a head scarf, from what i've seen anyway, are not being rounded up. i don't think anybody would've imagined seeing this day in iran. it's the biggest taboo, as you know. women who had protests of the head scarf, as recently as six, seven months ago, a lone woman would stand on the street in iran, wave her head scarf on a stick, would be promptly arrested by the police. and those women are serving double digit jail sentences. and yet, today in iran, women are defiantly walking around with their heads wide open to the public. >> that is astounding imagery, aaliyah russi.

it gives me chills, i have to say, as you explain it. cannot imagine. i certainly know what it is like they're on the streets. so, thank you for sharing that with us. ali arouzi, thank you. coming up on our next hour, i'm going to speak to executive director of the center for marine rights in iran, heidi jaime, to talk more about the ongoing protest. but still ahead, for the governor, ron desantis now facing possible legal implications for transforming transporting dozens of migrants from texas to martha's vineyard. what is thinly veiled political stunt could actually cost him. >> hey everyone, i'm alicia menendez ahead for us on american voices. investigating the former president from his businesses, the mar-a-lago docs, a very bad week for team trump. plus, the latest from puerto rico, what is happening on the island now. what american voices gets away, 6 pm eastern right here on msnbc. astern right here on msnbc. msnbc. twelve irresistible new subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪

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>> yasmin, i think it's important to point out that this is, of course, part of a crisis that begins in south america. these are individuals that just can't go back to their country right now. they're in the u.s. seeking asylum and there is a system in place. you mentioned that they are buzzing some migrants to new york city from el paso. there is an entire network of organizations in the country that help the migrants as they go from one city to another. that's been put in place and they are doing what they are can to serve a purpose, to help them. the migrants that were flown to martha's vineyard, we know that some were flown to a place where there was no help for them. that's the argument from the organizations that are helping them. that's the argument that they are making, right? as these migrants are wheeled around the country, it is part of the network that's been created to help these asylum seekers, yasmin. >> guad venegas for us, thank you, guad. good view. coming up in our next hour, everybody, a deeper look at the lawsuits and investigations piling up against the former president. and what lies ahead for the future of the trump organization.

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