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with us, thank you for sticking around. and you january 6th public hearing is just around the corner. at the same time, the special master in the mar-a-lago case is asking the former president to backup his allegations that the fbi planted evidence. plus, justice department once again is reviewing and using those classified documents found at his private mar-a-lago club. maybe trump's finances, it might happen in the most trouble, and then in puerto rico, no power, no water, and for some, nowhere to live. we are live from the ground and talking about the challenges that residents are facing after fiona ripped through the island. plus a powerful message from ukraine's president, what president's -- volynsky is telling thousands of men who are being drafted into the russians army army. -- also this hour. >> you think about the situation because, her whole life influenced her. >> a family member speaking out

about the death of his 22 year old cousin in iran. we have the latest on the eighth day of demonstrations across that country. i will talk with one woman who had direct experience with the iranian police. first, we want to look ahead at this wednesday. which could be the last public january 6th committee here. as we learn this, week the committee reached an agreement with jenny thomas, -- who to appear before the committee. we want to bring in nbc's rally -- ali rodman for more. ali, we heard about this news about jenny thompson of course, if in fact your testimony would come in time to be then shown or used in this january 6th hearing that is happening on wednesday, what do we know about what is coming? and if she is going to be included? >> yeah, yasmin, just to put this hearing into context, the committee knows it has an extremely high bar of expectations and has to meet in the next member, last public hearing. to break through all of these headlines over the past more than two months now since their

last public hearing about the former president. they haven't really dropped at the theme of this hearing yet, but they are dropping some bread crumbs as far as what we should expect on wednesday. they are saying they have more information from the secret service as far as communications and movement on january 6th. they say to expect more than a focus on the violent extremism that fueled the attack on the capital. chairman benny thompson told me this week to the latest development that was a months -long effort to get supreme court justice clarence thomas's wife ginni thomas to voluntarily come forward to the committee and answer questions, he says that likely won't play a role in wednesdays hearing. he says there is, quote, no real rush to interview her before wednesday. despite that committee members are saying that they know how significant ginni thomas's to the overall investigation, and being this connective tissue to connect all of these storylines that we have heard mentioned in past hearings already.

take a listen to -- this has to say about the value of ginni thomas's testimony. >> i am looking forward to all the information that she can provide us. once again, this is a legislative committee, not a criminal investigation. we do, however, have a strong interest in what doctor eastman did, as you know, he took the fifth amendment before the committee all day. and i think he took the fifth amendment because he must believe he has criminal culpability. she, of course, had extensive communications with dr. eastman. >> john eastman is of course the former trump lawyer who is credited as being the architect of this plan to overturn the 2020 election using former president vice president mike pence. he played such a role, and passed earrings, and we know as recently as a few weeks ago had his cell phone seized by fbi

officials. even though it is unlikely that we will see or hear a jenning thomas testimony reference on wednesday, members say that does not mean she won't play a larger role in this final report of the committee is planning to release before the end of the year, yasmin. >> ali rodman for us, thank you, ali. i want to bring in the guardians hugo lowell, a new york times reporter susan craig, who won a prize on your putting trump and his finances. hugo, let me start with, you if you can pick up on where the correspondent ali left off with what you know for what you expect to hear on wednesday with the final it seems, january 6th hearing. what can you expect will be orchestrating? >> yeah, it's a good question. the committee has been keeping the cause close to the chest. i think with good reason. they want to make sure that this final hearing is as explosive as it can be. the kind of things that have

been discussed behind the scenes at least what the committee has been doing since the final hearing began previously before the recess. topics include roger stone, michael flynn, the national security adviser was doing in the days leading up to january 6th, they want to flush those questions out. they are looking at people like -- and why he was fired because investigators believe that that laid the groundwork for the national guard being delayed and the deployment on january 6th. they have been focused at least through the august recess in the unanswered questions, it sounds like there are some expectation that that might be in wednesdays hearing. >> with that, you go, of course we jump more to michael cohen interview, and of course the lawsuit level against the former president by the new york attorney general. i also want to quickly touch on the special master in which you wrote that your findings in with the former president

actually accomplished. you said trump effectively secured two and a half week pause in the criminal investigation at the time that the candidate enjoy in the department on labor day to the appeal -- appeals court ruling on labor day. it would not have materially affected the case. can you expand on that for me? >> yeah, this is the special master on the review of the document in mar-a-lago. such that i was talking to a couple of trump advisers, people close to trump's legal team, they say the whole effort to try to get the special master was principally in order to slow down the investigation. that seems to be working until wednesday of last week. when they ruled that there were hundreds classified documents actually not part of the special process, and it could regain access to the documents. that means not a federal investigators can move ahead to the criminal investigation, there are -- the obstruction of justice, and

the violation of the espionage act. the wolf or attention of the -- as a really, really serious charges. the fact the justice department has those materials means that trump's effort to delay this has been effectively stymied. >> we have the j 6th hearing behind us, we have the special master behind us as well. let's look ahead to the former president's finances. that's where you come into the conversation. i want to read for folks about your prize winning reporting when it comes to the former president's finances. much of the money came to mr. trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. he and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise million of dollars in gifts from their parents. records and interview show he helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents real state holdings by hundreds of millions on dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when the property was transferred to him and his siblings. you know what i found a stone,

susan, when you think back to the press conference held by test james on wednesday, she talked about the time period between 2011 and 2021, we can take this all the way back it seems, especially from your reporting on how they have been trying to pull this off. >> yeah, i remember when we were reporting the story, we went out to queens to the surrogate court to get the will of his brother, that was the first time we saw donald trump's signature and bread crumbs on property values. it was eye-popping how low they were. we can imagine how much they were worth. that carried through his father's death when we got the values that were put on properties in his estate. this is just a new day, but a very old game. >> you know, i talked to michael cohen a little bit earlier in the last hour, i also spoke spoke with barbara mclean, barbara said she believes it's something that we will nab the former president.

michael cohen said this as well because it's essentially a paper trail. there's evidence, there is a preponderance of evidence as barbara put. it let's take a listen to a michael had to say to me, and then we will talk. >> they have all of the documents. they receive the documents not only from the irs after a very like the, typical donald trump the deflect, the flex, deflect, delay, delay, delay scenario. they asked for it, he says, no they sued, they lost, he appealed, they lost, supreme court, they lost. then they got all of the documents. the corroborates the 2011, 2012, 2013 personal financial statements. assuming the documents are provided, as well as the road map. >> he also went on to say, suzanne, that he greenlight everything. the former president signs off on all of this stuff, he is the final stop. i am wondering if they have the evidence to back that up as well. >> he does, it's a very small

organization. a lot of people talked about that. a small group of people. the complaint is powerful because it has the documents, they also have corroborating witnesses they have both documents, the victims in this case, the bank executives came in. one thing michael said that struck me and i would like to talk a little bit about it, you talk about the forbes list, and how he inflated his value to the forbes list. i'm not endorsing that, it's not a crime, where donald trump is going to get into trouble here is when he started either giving banks records that were not accurate, or holding back information from them. this is the sort of thing where he goes into a bank and he would like to get a loan, and he wants a better rate, he gave them his statement of financial condition. he certifies that it is accurate. he not only has to do that, he has to come back in some cases every year and certify it is accurate, he is getting a better rate because his net worth is so high in some cases

it had to stay over two plus million dollars. then he gets the better rate. that is one thing that, you know, could really get you into trouble and you are going to be hiring a lot of lawyers on that, this is why we are where we are today. there are other cases, this lawsuit was setting so many examples, it was the rich in terms of types of things he did. there was another example with a insurance company, zurich, because of the businesses that donald trump is in, he is in the hospitality business, he's got bars in his hotels. he needs insurance for that. the company that came in, he represented to them that here is the condition, his financial worth statement, and that that information was docked up with approvals allen weisselberg or the cfo of the company was involved in that, and they weren't, and the attorney general has come back in the complaint and i will just read a little bit because it really

captures where he potentially could get in trouble. because of that misrepresentation and the misrepresentation will get the trump organization a bitter premium they said in this case the veracity of the rest of the information disclosed by the trump organization, that would be the zurich, during the renewal would have called into serious questions whether xerox should continue its insurance relationship with the trump organization, or review a must favorable terms. that's where you get into trouble, you are going to financial institutions, and you are making of these sort of claims, you are withholding information in some cases. you are lying. the complaint, i was reading it, over, and over, and over different examples. whether it is banks, insurance companies, approvals to the irs, it goes on and on. >> on and on. susanne craig, thank you. we appreciate. hugo lowell we appreciate you as well. still is, our president

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reporting that protesting iran now and eight-day spread to almost 90 cities and towns after the death of 22 year old

mahsa amini. iranian state media reporting that 41 people are dead since violence over her death began according to the hospital she died three days after police took her into custody authorities arresting her for allegedly violating the countries strictly enforced islamic state address code they say she suffered a heart attack that came from her pre-existing condition, the family denying the pre-existing condition saying witnesses told them she was beaten. officials saying that investigation into her death is underway joining me to talk all about this is -- for human rights and iran. thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. this feels a different. i am wondering if you feel the same, having spoken to our correspondent on the ground, they're highly iraqi. and painting a picture for us that women are walking the streets of iran during the day when the morality priest police

are not necessarily cracking down, it's happening at night, they are walking without heads guards on. that image to me, as an iranian american woman, is astounding. is this different, do you think, in what we have been seeing? >> yes, yasmin, this is definitely a historical moment. we have not seen anything like it. it does come at the heels of five years of different kinds of protests. this one is absolutely different in the sense that, it is extremely widespread. it is led by women, there are a lot of young women on the street, there were two -- it was the removal, disposal, and burning of the hijab. and people not observing it at all, the second one is the courage of protesters not to run, necessarily, but fight back. there is a lot of occasions where people are fighting back and the regime is really confused we're to concentrate

its forces for oppression. as you mentioned, it is geographically extremely diverse, and let's remember, today is a seven day, there is no sign of it going away i think the next year there is going to be extremely critical and worrisome in terms of a massacre coming what i am calling the to the ottoman moment for iran. >> they were troubling to think about. you also think about how widespread the protests seem to be, oftentimes in some of the protesters couldn't and more urban areas, either tehran or -- you have more middle class people. we are hearing about the protests happening in a city like this, i wonder, ied, as you take a look at what is happening in iran how you think this could be a sustained effort considering what we heard from the president himself saying iran must deal decisively with those who oppose the country security and tranquility. and his of course conservative past.

>>, there is definitely a worry of a major, major massacre coming, just like the alluded to that. they tell us that the supreme leader has instructed the revolutionary guards to put down the protest with all of there might, it is a challenge when you have 90 citizens all over the country, so many people are also getting litigation that some of the forces brought out to shoot and kill were oppressed people are having second thoughts. i am not sure of them. definitely many or -- what is critical now is the message that the international community will give to iran especially the u.s. government were to europe in other countries i urged biden administration, it has been somewhat vocal in the past few days, but has to become much more vocal urgently warned iran not to kill protesters, and similarly take action of the

human rights council for an emergency session at the unga with allies to show that the world the concern, and countries like japan who have a direct and relatively good relationship with iran has a responsibility to convey that message to iranians, so that they hear it from all quarters. that is really urgent as a first step. next i can tell you what i speculate, how we can help the protesters reach outcomes that is to the benefit in the long term, and not end up with a massacre. >> thank you so much, we appreciate that, good to talk to you. later this hour, i will also speak to iranian author -- about her first experience growing up as a woman in the country, and the quote, shadow of fear she says that she lived in. up next, we are live from puerto rico where residents are dealing with the aftermath with what is now post tropical cyclone fiona. we will be right back. we will be right back. we will be right back. roster ever assembled.

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in canada, fiona bringing heavy rain and winds to the eastern provinces of nova scotia and prince edward island. with sustained winds reaching at -- fiona, reclassified as a post-tropical cyclone after moving north of the caribbean, we are a reach category four earlier this week. puerto rico it pretty hard though, the entire island suffered a major blackout during the storm and the entire communities were left underwater. i want to bring in nbc's alice barber who was there in salinas puerto rico for us. alison, talk us through it. last you and i spoke with, the conditions were pretty awful there, folks without water, without power, i'm seeing they are certainly getting a shipment of water and ice for the folks as they are starting to pick up undercover. >> yes, this is the local -- from paulina, they literally

out they have been out the last five hours delivering bags of ice and water to people in the community. this community is one of the most hard-hit communities in puerto rico, today as many as people are still without power these ice boxes bottles of water are absolute godsend, the heat index here is over 100 degrees, in some parts of the island it will be a heat index, what it feels like will be between 100 and 207 degrees. over half of this island is still without power. the governor, he said that they will try to re-energize the island gradually, it should be back in the next few days, but a lot of people, they have been without power, without water for seven days now. things are really hard. in addition to seeing community members like this, of that baseball team doing what they can to help each other. we have also seen people try to just make a do on their own with other members of the community. a few days ago, we saw people at the side of the highway making makeshift pike system to

try to capture water that was running off of the side of the mountain so that they can take it back to their homes. listen to what one man who was doing just that told us. [speaking non-english] >> [speaking non-english] [speaking non-english] >> this sort of help is huge, but a lot of people in puerto rico, even when they see help with this coming they say they are frustrated because they feel like they should not be in this position at all. they wanted the power grid to

be stronger, do better during this hurricane, it did not. not a lot of people are waiting for relief. this right here, it these are tiny miracles of other people in their communities. neighbors helping neighbors to make sure people survive, particularly during this heat wave. yasmin? >> i love it. alison barber, thank you so much. miracles within a community. coming up, everybody, the most successful extremist group in the digital age, that's what a new book called the far-right proud boys. some members face trial and charges for the audacious conspiracy for the january 6th insurrection. i will be right back. 6th insurrection i will be right back i will be right back what we've got ♪ [ tires squeal, crash ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive gets you right back to living the dream. now, where were we? [ cheering ] (cecily) adam. look-y what i got... (adam)now, where were we? is that the new iphone 14 pro? (cecily) yup, with this amazing new camera. smile! (adam) and you got it on verizon? (cecily) even better. i got verizon's new plan. includes apple one. that's apple music, apple tv+,

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white house. meanwhile, an army reservist was sentenced to four years in federal prison, he claimed he did know not know congressman at the capitol. rioter, stephen ayres was sentenced to probation after testifying for the january six committee. this is happening as the members of the proud boys continued to avoid charges for conspiracy. now a new book is calling them the most successful extremist group in the digital age. andy campbell, a senior editor at the washington post, the author of we are proud boys -- andy, welcome. hi be joining us. >> happy to be. here >> why are they especially successful online. >> the proud boys have taken what extremist groups used to do, which is only the violence, only the hate, and they have made it palatable for the gop

and the national audience by gaining relationships within the gop and with media pundits who helped them sort of normalize the political violence, something that is a necessary defense against what they call the leftist threat, the gop's bogeyman. the proud boys on their parade of violence over the last six years, leading up to january 6th, we're getting tons of support from trump's inner circle and the likes of a fox news. you now, with qanon and with the white supremacist, all of these kind of come together in this machine of misinformation and violence, the proud boys stone alone on the gop foot soldiers. >> that is astounding, we talked about this after january 6th, how oprah paired kept hill was, right? security of capitol hill

because they did not necessarily know what was coming, right? a lot of intelligence they had. you are right about how these online conversations could have helped prepare for something like january 6th, talk about enrique tarrio, the former chair of the proud boys leading up to january 6th, what if we invaded? the first reply to that was january 6th is the day in america, how clear was leading up to january 6th, something about cannot been. >> as soon as a trump sent a stand back, stand by as the debates, the proud boy was gearing up for civil war, they were raising funds for january 6th and describing it as their last stand for trump. now, the thing is, this was not different than any other month for the proud boys and for a number of other extremist groups because they have been doing this at a rapid eclipse, at the behest of trump four years.

the federal government was clearly watching what they were doing. but i just don't think that they believe the proud boys had in them to commit what they did on january 6th, and certainly we did not know until later when the conspiracy charges came down that they may have had a hand in planning this whole thing. certainly law enforcement is ten steps behind here, but because we knew they were watching and certainly we knew that the proud boys were gearing up for something. >> andy campbell, author of we are proud boys, thank you so much, good to talk to you after the break, everybody, ukraine successful counter offense, left russian forces scrambling. how russia's first mobilization of reserves troops since world war ii can affect the now seven months-long war. we will be right back. ve months-long war. we will be right back.

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today, russia officially invaded ukraine. as the russian president tries to call up hundreds of thousands of additional troops, president zelenskyy is urging ukrainians living in russian occupied areas not to give in. meanwhile, the international community is condemning so-called referendums the aim to seize parts of ukraine. all coming admits massive setback for the russian army, and growing dissatisfaction with the war at home. now putin is once again threatening with nuclear war. joining me is alesci of his alaska, the a member of ukrainian parliament, and -- nbc military analyst general brian mccaffrey. welcome to you both. alessio, let me start with you first. for ukrainians inside of russian occupied areas, saying a resist, and if you have to join, fight back. >> right, this is a general

call to action for all the ukrainians a call to action and that has been in the er since 24th of february, ukrainians are part of the united nation, the reasons that we are about to have the so-called referendum, they were very recently occupied. they are full of ukrainians who are willing and ready to fight, but for them, it is crucial to hear the message that the rest of ukraine will be fighting for them and that they are not abandoned, they are not left alone. the thing is, russia is constantly using propaganda and spreading messages of the territories that the government has abandon its people, that nobody is going to be fighting for them, that there is extreme destruction, poverty in ukraine, and nobody wants them in ukraine. the tape of propaganda that putin is using against his own people when he is telling the russians that the whole world is against them.

it's important for those ukrainians in those areas to hear the message loud and clear that ukraine is there, ukraine is fighting for them, and it's a matter of time before ukrainian flag is re-installed in those areas. >> is there a way, lesia, to get that message to the ukrainian people in the russian occupied areas? >> i'm sure there is, not all connection is cut off. the the internet is still working. essentially you get access to the telegram channels, that is how ukrainians get most of their news. you have specialized telegram channels. there is social media which works. there is just the word of mouth, the incoming from volunteers who are divel -- delivering humanitarian aid to the territories. it's important that the message comes directly from the president and then is repeated over and over again to a myriad of different challenges. >> general, i want to talk a little bit about the mindset

possibly of these 300,000 or so russians that are being called to fight on behalf of russian president vladimir putin, these are people essentially being drafted. they don't necessarily seem like they want to fight, according to our reporting. they lack the proper training to also fight in a war. the progress of the korean army, and the military has made their it's astounding that nobody would have predicted at the beginning of this war. what will it do for russia's fight with these people, potentially joining? does it give them any leg up? >> mr. putin is talking about, well obviously, the russians has become an international pariah. the economy is tanking. it will be an internal dissent, it's significant, it is growing, his army has failed him, he had many allies killed and wounded. primarily, -- coming from the infantry and armored forces. calling up 300,000 people,

protesters, people in prisons, snatching them at their place of work at 4 am. he, you have to take note, the bill of health of russian men from alcoholism and tobacco use and hiv, he has a real problem. i can't imagine that these 300, 000, or as many as he can bring on, will arrive anytime soon on the battle field or take part in a fast-paced tank, drone, electronic warfare. he is stuck. this is a broken military culture, with some really stupid generals running it. >> because he is quote unquote stop, as you put it, obviously showing desperation here amidst this war, it's not going the way he had anticipated or wanted, are you worried about his use, general, of tactical nukes? >> look, the president of the united states has to be worried

about, so does western europe. they have a significant nuclear force. putin is desperate, you see his ex that the ex test -- you see it on his face, he is killing the senior economic leaders of the country who have wavered in support of him. i cannot believe that he will employ a tact nuclear weapon. i spent most of my life dealing with this at the highest level, i have been in arms control negotiator with the russians. we understand full well that you cannot fight and win a nuclear exchange. if he started using a ten kiloton weapon on ukrainians, by the way, he is threatening the west, not just ukraine for what strikes nato forces in poland, the vertical escalation will be rapid. he has no idea what we would do. i don't think we do either. at a minimum, it would be a massive air attends pain

against the russian armed forces. it would record them and under 30 days. i don't think he is going to do it. mr. biden is proper -- properly taking this into account. >> leslie, are ukrainians worried about putin's use of tech -- tactical nuclear weapons? and what do ukrainians need right now to continue the fight? >> there is increased talk about possible nuclear attacks. we were just discussing this over a lunch with colleagues today. yes, we realized that we live in a high-risk zone of either a tactical nuclear weapon being deployed against us in our territory, or even putin going as far as sending off the strategic nuclear weapons, although there is not much need for him to do that. again, we are dealing with an unstable power crews, leader who is stuck in the situation

where his plan essentially backfired on him. and where he is cornered and can't do much, we don't know where he is going to take the situation. regardless of this, we understand that we are also locking ukraine a plan b, we only have a plan a, that is to win, to have victory for ukraine the liberation for our territories and for the integration of ukraine to go back to 19 or under one orders. really, we don't have another clean, we don't have anywhere else to go we only have this country, the same with -- essentially what do we need now? we need help with weapons. we need help with humans. we need help with also rebuilding ukraine. for that, russian assets need to be not just frozen, but also arrested and seized in order to help out ukraine. it should not be a ukrainians or americans or anybody paying

for the damages of the losses here in ukraine, it should be the russians. >> lesia vasylenko a member of the ukrainian parliament, thank. you and retired general brian mccaffrey, thank you as well. still ahead everybody, as protests in iran continue, author -- joins me next to talk about her direct experience with iranian police. we will be right back. iranian police we will be right back. we will be right back. 12 irresistible new subs... like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef. this sub isn't slowing down time any time soon. i'll give it a run for its money. my money's on the sub. it's subway's biggest refresh yet. tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid. can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi. a pool floatie is like whooping cough, it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. ask your doctor or pharmacist about whooping cough vaccination

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taking to the streets to burn their head scarves and cut their heads in protest, many of them are shearing their own experiences with iran's morality police. author -- writes about her saying this, my trespass, i was not wearing socks with my tennis shoes and a fraction of my ankle was visible beneath the hand of my full length skirt. i was fearing the experience of physical violence, but he did take something from me. shamed from a man who had the power to do anything he wanted to my body. i apologize, even when every atom in me screamed with a rage at dignity, i kept my feet [inaudible] for his mercy. author of home is a stranger, the family fled iran in the 19 80s with the rise of the islamic bureaucracy. thank you so much for joining me, we appreciate this, this piece you wrote, it is so incredibly beautiful, it spoke to me.

i have been in similar experiences, i know how you felt, talk to me about what it was like living in iran, being a woman, going through experiences like the one i just read. >> thank you, yasmin for inviting me. i moved from la to iran in my twenties my father just passed away and i wanted to understand something more about him and about myself, i was raised in los angeles and the iran i saw was the iran presented on the news, the iran that of my parents memory. so i made the decision to go back. i lived there for about one year. in that year, i experienced a fraction of what the women were seeing, an experienced. what the experience their entire lives, but they grown up with. what is like to be a woman in iran, you leave the house and

you are scared. you know? you are scared that too much here might be chauvin. that the lip gloss you put on might open somebody, or your red nail polish might offend somebody. or the sound of your voice might offend somebody. everything you do is under scrutiny. it is not just that you would get chastised, you know, someone would reprimand you the way they do a few times i had run-ins with the police. they have the power to do horrible, brutal things to you. most of the young woman i knew and i have known, have either experienced that firsthand, or i know someone very close who has. that brutality, i don't know what to say.

you heard the president say that they did the autopsies on mahsa amini, there is no sign of beaten. but i invite anybody to look online and search for arrests of young iranian girls at the hands of the morality police. it is the most alarming, horrific thing you witness. these are girls, there are four or five policemen kicking, than beating them, pushing them with a brute force in police cars, you see their mother's screening and pleading for them not to be taken away. just recently, there was this one footage that went viral of a mother standing in front of a police van as they were taking her daughter away screaming she essick, let her go! even sped.

her mother was thrown into the street, i think what we see in the west as a head scarves we reduce the entire situation to, oh, it's a head scarf, they don't want to wear it. it is not a head scarf, it is systematic oppression designed specifically to the gun -- by the government to cripple the spirit of the people. >> i just wanted to step in here to say, that is why in seeing some of these images, i'm sure you feel the same way that i do, it kind of gives you chills, it is so emotional to take in the courage, you know, these women have, right? to do what they are doing. the after day, night after night. our correspondent on the ground explaining women are walking in the streets during the day

without had describes on, with their hair completely out as if they no longer are in iran. that in and of itself is just incredible. and the precipice that we may be at with this. >> absolutely. hopefully, hopefully this will lead to the change that they are demanding. if you watch these videos that are coming out of iran, and now many are coming because the government has again, blocked out the internet and won't allow any footage julie iran, specifically because they won't -- don't want to be held under international scrutiny for the brutality against the people, they are opening the fire of the protesters when you see them in the street protesting, it is a younger generation, it is millennials, gen z, it is not my gender. sorry, it is my generation. it's the women that will have

to continue to live with whatever comes next. the women that feel the brutality and the criticism, i hope you come back. i enjoyed this conversation. you certainly lend a much-needed voice during a very difficult time with what is happening in iran. so we thank you, please continue to write your pieces and your experiences as well. thank you so much, good to talk to you. that wraps it up for me everybody, i am -- ali back in the show tomorrow at 2 pm eastern, simone sanders thousand picks things up right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greetings, we are digging into the latest developments involving former president trump's legal battle, y'all. the clock is ticking for the former president's lawyers to backup claims that the fbi planted evidence during the search of his mar-a-lago home. and that he declassified documents before taking them to florida. if that is not enough of t