the women that feel the brutality and the criticism, i hope you come back. i enjoyed this conversation. you certainly lend a much-needed voice during a very difficult time with what is happening in iran. so we thank you, please continue to write your pieces and your experiences as well. thank you so much, good to talk to you. that wraps it up for me everybody, i am -- ali back in the show tomorrow at 2 pm eastern, simone sanders thousand picks things up right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greetings, we are digging into the latest developments involving former president trump's legal battle, y'all. the clock is ticking for the former president's lawyers to backup claims that the fbi planted evidence during the search of his mar-a-lago home. and that he declassified documents before taking them to florida. if that is not enough of the

new york attorney general is coming after the trump organization, for what? lying about the property values of their stuff. we have got our legal experts here to bring it all down. and the countdown to midterms is on, and less than 45 days, -- heading to the polls for what i think is a critical election. so we are going to check in on some critical races, the new nbc poll finds enthusiasm for upcoming midterms that an all-time high. plus, we are launching a new series today focused on the -- organizations known as the divine nine. their efforts to drive voters to the poll. we are taking the series off with the national president of this sorority, she is giving us a peek into what he asked he is up to. i am simone sanders, i am back, and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> donald trump, he had a bad week. he is facing new legal challenges. first, there are developments involving the mar-a-lago case. and those documents seized by the fbi. three appeals court judges for the 11th circuit unanimously, y'all, unanimously granted the justice department appeal of judge aileen cannon's order. that order barred them from reviewing the justice department, from reviewing classified documents and criminal investigation. the 11th court circuit judges say that eileen cannon, judge cannon, made a mistake here. in agreeing with the department of justice. this is what they had to say. it is self evident that the public has a strong interest in ensuring that the storage of classified records did not result in exceptionally grave damage to the national security. that, they added, involves reviewing the documents determining who had access to

them -- compromised. we have to point out, two of the three judges appointed by don trump himself, meanwhile, the special master in this case, raymond dearie, says the former president needs to backup some of his claims, y'all. he needs the receipts. first, they want to see the receipts for the claims that donald trump declassified the documents at mar-a-lago. second, judge dearie is looking for receipts on the claim that the fbi planted evidence during the search at his mar-a-lago home. the trump team has until friday to bring those receipts. if you ask me, i think providing the receipts will prove to be quite difficult. and did i mention that diary was suggested by the trump team to serve as special master? we are not done. in a different case, okay. new york attorney general letitia james, she has a message for donald trump. he is not above the law. earlier this week, she filed a civil suit against donald trump,

his children, his adult children, by the way. and the trump organization. they are all accused of lying, cheating, and pretending to be much richer than they are. by inflating property values by epstein's nine times their actual worth in some cases. look at this graphic, look at this! trump has claimed a 75 million dollar property was worth, wait for it, 700 and $39 million. here is ag james talking about the case. >> claiming you have money that you do not have does not amount to the art of the deal. it's the art of the steal. there cannot be different rules for different people or people in the state. former presidents are no different. >> we need some legal experts to help sort this all out. so air tucker is here, he

covers the justice department for the associated press. cynthia is a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst -- thank you for being with us, it's your first time on symone, we appreciate you. can you explain to folks what these quasi-document rulings from the 11th court circuit means for donald trump? >> yes, it was a pretty stark repudiation of donald trump's legal arguments. really quite an overwhelming victory for the justice department. what it effectively does is -- taken from mar-a-lago. put on hold, now they can do that. >> now, the airport -- will put it on the screen for folks. the lower judge abused her discretion in requiring outside review of seized classified documents. i spoke to a couple legal experts this week, cynthia. they said that judge cannon essentially made a mistake.

>> judge made a mistake, i think so. >> it's like a big baseball bat. i mean, they slammed the way she had handled this. they have, it is a huge blow to the trump people. now, fortunately, we have this special master who, generally, is applying the law. who is not constrained by anything. he is, in fact, empowered by what the 11th circuit ruled. he is moving the case along quite quickly. >> very, very quickly. i mean, what we were talking about, before the show today with my team. i was like, did y'all read what the 11th circuit wrote? these judges were very clear. it was, in my opinion, a stinging rebuke. let us talk about this deadline, though, that judge dearie has set out, the special master for the trump team to essentially provide receipts, as i like to call them, to these claims that donald trump himself had made. i would note that i don't think trump's lawyers have made these claims in court. this is donald trump that has made claims.

that the fbi planted information in his home. that he declassified documents already. i don't think they have made those claims in court yet. so eric, what can we expect on friday? >> just a backup for a second, simon, the fbi produced what they call a detailed property report. it's a list of items and documents that they took. so that has been produced, that is gonna be given to the trump team. they will have the opportunity to identify any potential discrepancies. as you said, the lawyers have not made those claims yet. so it remains to be seen whether they will. >> yes, it remains to be seen. why has this even been a debate? it is really, you know, obviously i work at the white house. i went to the department justice. i know bunch of lawyers. we had brushes with the justice department, lawyers from the white house. it just strikes me as though donald trump is making these claims and that everyone is like, oh, well, did he, did you not? it's very clear to take this out yay or nay. why was this even, why has the movement of debate? >> it's a debate because, it is

similar to what happened in the electoral fraud thing. right? everybody says all kinds of things outside of court. then they have the good sense not to say them in court. for the poor lawyers that represent him, honestly, what a nightmare to have a client who goes on the air and as his -- maybe i declassified by thinking about it. or maybe they were looking for hillary clinton's emails. or maybe the fbi planted it. for a number of things. all of which are admissible against him in court. >> right? >> i want to say that in court because their lock licenses are on the line. he has been able to get away with it because he hasn't had a judge like judge dearie, he hasn't had a court like the 11th circuit who have held his feet to the fire. that is fixing to happen in this case. >> very clearly, we will be watching on friday, i'm interested to see what she says. let's look at the other giant legal case. this is a civil suit that donald trump is now facing. we are going to put this up on the screen, new york attorney general tish james as accusing

donald trump, his children, his organization of lying to banks, to insurance companies. and the state, by fraudulently overly valuing his assets while trying to minimize his company's tax bills. i think it is important that trump is set for a deposition at, with the attorney general, state attorney general, not a couple weeks ago, eric. do you think that had anything to do with what we saw from letitia james earlier this week? >> well, you know, when he went in there he invoked the fifth amendment right against self incrimination. dozens and dozens and dozens of times. this is an investigation that became three years ago when he was president, now we are seeing it, you, know bearing fruit. so, it is, i 200-page lawsuit, so it is a lot. a lot of allegations. a lot of allegations. >> cynthia, your thoughts? >> yeah, i have thoughts. i think if you didn't have all of the other legal fronts that they would have figured out how to get him to testify in this case. but since he took the fifth,

every time, if i say i am the prosecutor and i'm saying, you are wearing a brown dress and you say, i take the fifth. in court, in a civil case, that can, the jury can infer, yeah, she is wearing around dress. that wouldn't have happened, he wouldn't have taken the fifth, he wouldn't have set up that problem for him if he didn't have all of the other legal fronts. because his lawyers would have figured out how to get him to testify. so you can't really look at the tish james case in an analysis without recognizing that the guy is on trouble in so many legal fronts, they are influencing each other. >> it is not just one thing, this isn't just a vacuum, there are many things. cynthia, eric, thank you very much for taking us off. it is my first day back, i am happy to have you here. >> congratulations, and welcome back. >> thank you guys so much, coming up, we have to talk about the devastation in puerto rico. the island was just wrecked by hurricane fiona, so we are going to get into the latest efforts to get the power back up and what needs to be done to make sure that this does not happen again.

but first, my colleague richard louis is here with today's other top news stories, richard, i have missed you. >> i've missed you too, simone, good to see you on a very good saturday as well. we are watching some breaking news. cnn out one of the strongest storms ever to hit eastern canada. hurricane-force winds and heavy rains cut power for hundreds of thousands of people there. forecasters warn of possible storm surges this weekend. another storm also making its way towards florida. its governor promptly declared a state of emergency for the state. forecasters say that tropical storm ian could become a category three hurricane when it is expected to reach the gulf of mexico on tuesday. it could become the first hurricane to hit the florida peninsula since 2017. and it is a fourth day of protests against vladimir putin's mobilization of three and 4000 wore troops to fight ukraine. dozens of new arrests reported today in russia. as an in addition to 1300 arrests reports since wednesday, says human rights group of e.d. info.

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hurricane fiona soares puerto rico. nearly half of the major water authorities customers still do not have running water. during a recent fema visit, president biden announced that help is on the way for puerto rico's residents who are still recovering from the devastating impact of hurricane maria five

years later, take a listen. >> to the people of puerto rico who are still hurricane hurting from hurricane maria five years later, i know that they should know that we are with you. we are not gonna walk away. we mean it. >> now, according to president biden, the federal government will fully cover the cost of debris removal, search and rescue operations, power and water supply restoration. as well as temporary shelters and food. now this is not always the case, y'all, so it is very important point this out. let's talk about resources, though. the control of the island's power grid was transferred to loom energy back in 2020 by 40 rican of the words. it was supposed to be luma's job to fix the islands fragile power grid, but it seems like it is only getting worse. the hill points out that in june of 2020, pardon me, june of 2021. 1 million, 1 million households lost electricity. in april of 2022, half of the population on the island lost

electricity. resulting in a 310 million dollar lawsuit from restaurant transfer the losses. the devastating infrastructure failure of the island of natural disaster leaves many people asking, myself included, how is this happening in united states of america in 2022? yes, folks, puerto rico is part of america. it is not some other country asking for help. it is a commonwealth or a self governing state subject to the authority of congress. these are americans. the status as a territory, i think it has blow the federal response that many states are provided after similar disasters in our country. so joining me today to discuss is charlotte gossamer navarro, she's the chief director of puerto rico for the hispanic federation. charlotte, thank you so much for being here with us today. i know that the hispanic federation is a grassroots organization -- since fiona hit, it is my

understanding that you all started post maria. can you give us a sense of how folks on the island are doing right now? are people frustrated? and really, what is the temperature here? >> sure, the spanish federation actually opened a tournament office in puerto rico immediately after hurricane maria to continue to work with community based organizations in the long term recovery. to really try to prepare puerto rico for the future. as you mentioned, right now we are in an emergency phase. we have people who do not have food, do not have water, they are in a real crisis. so yes people are angry. they are frustrated. they are emotionally exhausted. not only have we gone through this hurricane, and not only are we still recovering from hurricane maria. but people often leave out that we went to earthquakes in 2020. this hurricane hit us on top of

an incomplete recovery from all those previous disasters. >> now, charlotte, there has been a lot of criticism of, luma the private company that it initially took over puerto rico's electrical grid in 2021. there's also been criticism of prep, a puerto rico's public power authority. say that five times. papa owns the grid but they went bankrupt. how is this mixture of public and private controlled really impacting the island. how do they fix it? >> you know, they chose to prioritize what was a public energy system. they promised the people of puerto rico that things are gonna get better. but they haven't. in fact, we have actually had more outages and they become more common since lumet began administering the energy system here in puerto rico. leading up to fiona, there were regular protests happening for

daily practically, talking about canceling the contract with luma because of how many power outages people were having. so, you know, we were set up, unfortunately, going into the storm, where everyone knew that we were gonna lose power. it wasn't a question of if or when it would happen. >> this just should not be happening, you know, after hurricane maria, there was a promise of an allocation of, i believe it was a billion dollars to try to help the island in the event of future hurricanes. fiona was a weaker storm than hurricane maria. and they are still so much damage. i mean, how do you explain that? >> yeah, we have actually had tens of billions of dollars in aid. however, a couple of things happened. first, the trump administration unfortunately held much of our recovery dollars made it very difficult to move forward with a recovery. while he was still president. since, then unfortunate recovery happening here in puerto rico level the

government of puerto rico has also been excruciatingly slow. we also haven't seen the type of investments in the infrastructure where we think we would have the resilience needed to withstand climate change. again, climate change is the reality, and we know it is not going away. it is only going to increase the type of weather events and other natural events that are impacting. so we really need to be better prepared and speed up our recovery in order to face these challenges. >> i cannot agree with you more, and i would note, if we were talking about a state in america and not puerto rico, i think things would be a little bit different. and i'm talking long term, not just the last couple of years. charlotte gosset navarro, thank you very much. >> after the break, we are introducing a new series on symone, a series is all about the divine nine and how these organizations are mobilizing their members ahead of the midterms. we are also going to get into new polling about voter

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midterms cannot be overstated, y'all. issues like a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and the future of our democracy? they are all on the ballot. what does that mean? that means you need to vote. now, historically black greek letters organizations have a long history of fighting to ensure that the voices of black folks are heard at the bella box. the divine 9 it's how we refer to these organizations. in total, there are about 2.5 million members of the divine 9 worldwide. today, we begin a new series of conversations with the presidents of these illustrious organizations. we are kicking things off with delta sigma theta sorority incorporated. in the preamble to the constitution, it says we people in order to former perfect union. the we, it did not mean women and definitely was not referring to black women.

but on march 3rd, 1913, the women of delta sigma theta, made clear that they would not be ignored. now, white women came from around the country and some african american women to. but the black women, the african american woman who participated in the march were separated from the white women. the organizations forced them to the bed. in 1913, there was only one chapter of delta sigma theta sorority incorporated, and they were there that march. with more than 300,000 initiated members, delta sigma theta sorority incorporated is one of the preeminent sororities. joining me now is the president, elsie cooke-holmes, she is the national president and chair of the national board of directors of delta sigma theta sorority incorporated. madam president, thank you so much for being here today and kicking off this series. >> symone, thank you very much for kicking it off with delta sigma theta. >> absolutely, absolutely, i think it is important people know that black creek lettered organizations, they are engaged

and they are doing the work. can you share a little bit how delta is helping organize its members in advance of the midterm election? >> as you talked about we have been on the forefront of delta sigma theta sorority incorporated voting rights since our founding in 1913. we have been working hard with that since then, up until now. this year, these midterm elections are so absolutely critical. we are working in several areas, certainly our voter registration. we are going wherever people are to be able to register our people to vote. all of our members are mobilized doing just that. we really are working towards not only voter registration, but certainly red deer educations. we're making sure that our members understand the issues that they are going out to their communities, going out to the various communities across -- critical importance to our communities. we are partnering with the league of women voters around education and in terms of

everyone knowing their rights, knowing there right so that they can be able to cast their vote on election day. >> you know, this voter education issue i think is very important. you know, as i said earlier, a woman's right to make decisions about her own body is on the ballot in this election. just yesterday, an arizona judge said the state has to enforce a near total abortion ban that was there before the state was even a state. i don't even know how that works? is abortion, woman's bodily autonomy, are these issues that your membership is discussing? are you organizing around these issues? >> absolutely. thanks 1973, we have supported a woman's right to choose and a woman's right to have control over her own body. we passed a resolution, we have social action commission first of all, all of these efforts are led by delta stigma. we have resolutions that we pass every year. so in 1973, right around the time of roe v. wade, our first resolution regarding supporting a woman's right to choose was

passed. in 2019 we passed another resolution supporting that and ratifying that in terms of a woman's right to choose. so those resolutions guide the issues that are important to delta segment data. as such, that we believe are important to our communities. so we certainly will continue to support and encouraged to fight for that issue, as well as any other rights that are being taken away from us. because it has been a crazy year between voting rights, between reproductive rights, we know we have a lot at stake in this midterm election. so we are fighting harder than ever. >> very hard, election deniers on the ballot in states across the country, critical racists. i think the last thing i want to know is how are you talking to the membership, and how are the membership's talking to people in their communities about the long term effects that the 2022 midterms can have on our democracy?

>> just a couple of things. i talk about the education, i talked about the education, we are mobilizing and we certainly are trying to make sure that, number one, our rights are protected. so we really are focusing heavily on voter protection as well. we are partnering with the 1866-hour vote, election protection on. registration. on election day, i'm sorry. but we are also making sure that our members understand what is at stake in terms of voter suppression and taking away our rights. we actually interned to lawsuits with the naacp legal defense fund. one of the state of georgia, and one in the state of texas. to combat the voter suppression laws that have been passed in both those states. we certainly have educated our members on that. educated our members across the country with respect to all of

the various things that are at stake regarding our rates. we have a voter mobilization and overall voter guide for this year, midterms elections. it includes everything, it is a tool kit that includes everything our members need to know to really not only mobilize within ourselves, but mobilize within the communities. our families, our friends in the community at large. to make sure that we protect our vote and that we get out the right to vote. >> it sounds like delta sigma theta is out here doing the work. >> indeed. >> president elsie cooke-holmes, thank you very much for being here, for kicking off our series. we appreciate your time. we will see you soon. >> thank you so much, enjoyed being here. >> thank you so much. next week, our series of conversations continue with the presidents of the divine organizations, we have the general president of alpha phi alpha incorporated, they will be here at the green table with symone. so now, i want to bring in some political minds to dig a little

deeper into our conversation about voter turnout in the midterms. jessica post is back, she is the president of the democratic legislative campaign committee. reed galen is a political strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project. you know, folks, in our most recent nbc news poll found that 64% of voters say they have high interest in the upcoming midterms. either registering a nine or ten on the ten point scale of interest. jessica, you just heard the president of delta, what are you all doing to -- >> [laughs] i love that, kids, you've got to let the kids know, you've got to let the kids know. keep it real, we, all this is live television. jessica, you just heard madam president. what are you all doing at the democratic legislative campaign committee to specifically engage black voters. >> first thing i will say that we have so much to owe the divine 9 and the women of delta sigma theta in terms of organization their membership and electing the members to congress.

it is incredible to follow such a groundbreaking leader. at our organization we are always thinking about how we engage voters to talk about the stakes of the election. i think we all know that black voters are the base of the democratic party. but often we take black voters for granted, we don't do a good enough job of talking about how we are going to address the issues that matter to voters. it's what we always hr candidates's go knock on doors, listen to what people are concerned about. and then, make sure that you are communicating in their language. in the natural language that voters speak in, that sort of not dc talking point, what are you going to do deliver to those voters? >> preach, jessica, no more the talking points. but let's look specifically at georgia as an example. i think the reality is that turnout for black voters has fluctuated. some people want to talk about the past 60 years, right? this is 60 years from 48% in 1996 to thousand and eight, 62%.

but we know that there have been changes even from 27 -- 2016 to 2017, 2018 midterms to the 2020 presidential. to these upcoming midterms. so, i guess the question is, what does someone like senator warnock mean to do to turn out voters? he obviously can't do what president biden did in 2020. he is need a gun ahead, in my opinion, obama level turnout. i'm wondering your thoughts on this? >> >> read? >> certainly, oh. >> sure, look, i wonder -- matched the kind of enthusiasm that president biden was able to generate in november of 2020. but also the level of enthusiasm that he and senator ossoff were able to bring on in january of last year in their runoff election. i think what they will be able to do that. i think they need to do to make sure that he is getting every

last voter he can out. including those independent voters. probably don't even think much of herschel walker. the folks who otherwise might think, oh, you know what, senator warnock is going to win. there is no way herschel walker can win. never, never let 2015, 2016 thinking get in the way of things. just because you don't think herschel walker can win, doesn't mean he can't. >> i want to underline and highlight what you just, i guess carried, sick around, we have plenty more to talk about. next, the political report, it is, updated encouraging news i would argue for democrats, we are going to talk about a few races to watch and what could be driving these shifts right after this. gh after this out of her medicare plan. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ advantage: me! can't wait 'til i turn 65! take advantage with an aarp medicare advantage plan... only from unitedhealthcare. make your home totally you.

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in about 15 minutes until the midterms. let's take a look at where some high stakes races stand. the cook political report now says 31 house races are toss-ups. that is down from 34. so what happened? well three races moved from toss-up or likely republican to likely democrat. these are just house races by the way, i'm talking about the united states congress. some of these are senate races, one state that has seen some significant movement is arizona. i want to welcome back, to our panel actually carroll bought. a political reporter for the rolling stones, and jessica post and our good friend really gayle and are back with us. let's talk about the senate race in arizona folks. this race between mark candidate -- blake masters. it recently shifted to leaning democrat by the clinical report. earlier this week, even today

frankly the states 15-week abortion ban supports ago into effect. but a judge ruled that yesterday, and near total abortion ban that was written before arizona became a state issue to take precedence and go into effect instead. kara, we've heard a lot about this issue of women's reproductive autonomy. now, you have arizona waiting until this fight. do you think that this is one of the reasons, if not the reason why we are seeing the shift to supportive democrats in these races? >> i think certainly at playing a pretty big role. voters in arizona are about to get a visceral experience of what it's like to live without the right to abortion. we know that blake masters, the senate candidate there had a very extreme position on abortion rights. very antiabortion, prior to winning his primary, he has since pivoted but people don't forget that easily. carry like, that candidate there has been a murky on her position on abortion. she has called it the ultimate

sin. certainly those extremist positions are definitely not you know where most of the country is on abortion. >> i mean it definitely will, it is something to watch. i think that this is playing out, not just in arizona but we can even take a look at wisconsin. we have lieutenant governor mandela barnes a democrat. he is buying to become the state's first black senator. recent polling in this race is, it's actually good for barnes. very tight and very close. i know that 5:30 had a article of the other day, they talked about he was good for democrats but we need more of it. whatever the real numbers? now the national republican committee has to adds up in the state. their ads are not about abortion actually. even though i think that is on the lieutenant governor barnes would like to be talking about. adding these ads and why pinion mischaracterized governor lieutenant barnesville on crime and social justice. what is most disturbing i think as some of these mailers out there. i want to put this up on the screen for folks.

that johnson campaign sent out a mail or calling lieutenant governor barnes a radical leftist, it has this picture. the one on the left. the original photo of barnes is actually the one on the right. i think we can all spot the difference okay? the one on the left, lieutenant governor barnes his skin has been darkened and it's a little more sinister. reed, what is going on? what is going on with our republican friends in wisconsin? >> well this goes back to what we have seen for a 50 or 60 years. we atwater famously said in the 50s, you can say the n-word in the 60s, you couldn't. in the 70s you had to come up with something else, the 80s it was welfare queen. and now it is criminal, excuse me a critical race theory. the bottom line simone as you know what? they are trying their best whether or not it on race, education, culture to scare suburban white voters. that's all this is about. they know those people, especially women as you are talking about a minute ago or bleeding away from the republican party.

they are turned off by the republican party. and so now, they will go back to their old tricks. this is all they have got. scare the white people, that is the plan. >> it is so sinister. jessica, there are state legislative races on the ballot in wisconsin. we are just not only seeing this issue of crime because that is what folks are catching it under. couch under the issue of crime, then you get ads like the ads that the republicans editorial campaign committee has on wisconsin. and you get the mailers. or focusing this on the ground jessica? >> yes. we are seeing it on the ground all across the country. in fact his last week, we saw a stock image of hands in an ad against one of the candidates. the stock image had been darkened. they are really, we have thrown away the dog whistle and they are just using sort of a racist

megaphone to mobilize their voters. the other thing is i think the republicans are not a talk about what is the mobilization of this election. which is abortion. in arizona, they are debating between a bill that started in the civil war era and a current abortion ban that is 15 weeks. either way, women will die. i think they are just using all of their old tricks. >> you know, kara jessica mentioned the issue of abortion and it's where we started this conversation in michigan, you have the republican candidate for i believe it's the og republican candidate who was caught on a hot mic. first we don't have time to put this on for you. basically is on the hot mic and is asked about plan b and he says what is that? so that it's explain to him and then he said oh yeah, we've depended at the border like fentanyl. if i was still a strategist and i've never been a republican strategist, i know some. this does not seem like a

politics. what is going on? how is this playing out in the state? >> this is really interesting, after so many republican primaries, we saw candidates who have pretty extreme positions on the issue and walk them back and matt has not been one of those republicans. i did not have a chance to speak with him in office in michigan last month, i asked him if he intended to uphold the 1931 ban that was on the books when he took office. if you took office, he said yes. he also said the county prosecutors in michigan should be enforcing the 1931 law. which as i think many of us know our, they are currently not being enforced. thanks to -- but, yes this is really something that is unprecedented for a candidate. >> unprecedented to say the least. kara bought, jessica post and read gayle, and thank you all very much. when we come back, racial equity and justice at the state department all, yes it is a thing. it has been codified, i'm speaking with the official who was fighting racism and social justice around the world.

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and he had something to say when it came to the war in ukraine. take a listen. >> united states wants a hand on just terms, on terms we all signed up for. you cannot sees a nations territory by force. the only country standing in the way of that is russia. ukraine has the same rights that belong to fe sovereign nation. we will stand in solidarity with ukraine. we will stand in solidarity against russia's aggression, period. >> president biden also, well, he championed democracy globally and at home. the only catches that some world leaders reportedly considered addressing the united states own issues with democracy. including issues with our elections of racial bias of white supremacy and the migrant

crisis just to name a few today. joining me to discuss it all is desiree cormier smith, desiree is the special representative of racial equity and justice for the united states department. desiree, one, i am so happy to have you here because people need to know that this white house administration under the leadership of president biden has made sure that racial equity is a part of what is happening everywhere and that includes the state beto hartman. so i'm very happy about it. at the un, president biden also said this. he said, quote, if nations can ensue -- we put at risk everything this institution stands for. you cannot see the nation's territory. he is talking about vladimir putin. this administration has leveled unprecedented sanctions against russia, it is crippled their economy. what is next in the fight? >> well, first, let me say thank you so much for having me. and how proud i am of you,

congratulations, welcome back from your honeymoon, i hope it's been fantastic. yes, exactly what president biden said. this is obviously about the right of the people to this as a country. but it is fundamentally bigger than that. it is about every country's right to exist peacefully. it is about the principle that no country can change another country's borders by force. that is exactly what is going on. that's what the russian government is doing. if we fail to acknowledge that and stand up against that, that sends a dangerous message to aggressors everywhere. right? that means that no one is safe. that is a dangerous dangerous thing. that won't necessarily lead to a less peaceful or less stable world. >> less stable world. let's talk about your work, you have been foreign service office or, you have served at various posts. what is the practical indication of the racial equity

and justice work that you do every day. >> yes! i am honored to occupy this position. it is the first time the state department has a senior level official focused on the reality and the circumstances of members of marginalized racial and act -- ethnic communities around the world. but this is not new, right? this is just a further commitment of the biden harris administration to put human rights at the center of our foreign policy. and to work towards a more just and equitable world for all people. >> so what does that look like? because i remember a time in his country not too long ago when there was a fast track for some folks at the southern border who were fleeing persecution, fleeing a war. i'm talking about ukrainians. and the united states created pathways for them to quickly come into the country, as we should have. but at the same time, there are folks from places south of the border like venezuela who are fleeing persecution, fleeing violence. who, at least one political

party in this country is claiming that they are coming to this country illegally but there is a right to seek asylum in america. so, break it down for me. because i think there are people that say, hey, this sounds good. but how do we really make it equitable? >> yeah, that is a fair question. let me start by saying that this administration is committed to humanitarian access, and creating a better immigration system for all people. now, what happened in ukraine created a massive humanitarian crisis. >> huge, huge, i mean millions, it's important to note, millions of refugees. >> exactly, exactly. i am talking the largest number of, the largest movement of people at one time in the last 50 or so years. so that necessarily required a quick response, right? but, i would also like to emphasize that this administration is committed to expanding the temporary protective status program to make it fair and equitable. that is the program that we

allowed in the ukraine refugees. but, i would also like to note that there are 15 countries in the world right now that are eligible for tps status. >> that zuri breaking it down and making claims! >> i think it's also important to note that that is the largest number of countries in any somerall administration, no previous integration had that many countries. so listen, acknowledgment by this administration that, unfortunately, there are humanitarian crisis is around the world. we have the obligation to meet those needs and to welcome people to our borders. >> i'm getting trouble, because they are telling me i have to go, but i have to ask you, you know have been involved in the united states response and inquiry around britney griner, do you have any update for, us we know the president met with joel griner, britney griner's wife, -- ? >> yes, i want to underscore, that the president would be g's wife last week for understand an hour to half. you know that is the big and. >> very significant. >> that is a long time. that is a very long time. he met with her to underscore

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