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intensifying as much as we thought it. where there's still a ways to go. the storm has roughly three days to get a strong as it's going to get, and then will weaken as it approaches florida after that. the hope is that it never gets its act together, but all of our computer, guides that -- are telling us is not going to happen. it's saying this is going to intensify for the next three, days maybe rapidly intensify when it gets -- to as of now, still only tropical storms, -- that's not the issue. the issue is that on our computer guides is telling us it gets much stronger from here. becoming a hurricane by tomorrow morning, and then, possibly, a major category

three hurricane and a 20 mile per hour winds, only 48 hours from now. that's a really fast, intensification as it moves up there. after that, it goes to the north. then it goes back a little bit. the question is, how much does it bend back to the northeast. if it bends back a little harder, it will be towards tampa, sarasota, the landfall, and that could cause -- category two, maybe category three. that's a really devastating storm. the storm surge issues, big damage. obviously rainfall too. there is a florida focus and storm surge, so again, that will be the worst-case scenario right now. if it's more to the left, up towards pensacola, panama city, apalachicola, tenaha see, the storm will have more time to weekend. whistle of storm surge issues, will sell of wind damage, but it wouldn't be as severe as what the storm surge and wind damage would be around tampa and sarasota. so as the wind goes, everyone in florida is going to get a little, wind but obviously, if you're in the centerline, or to the right, bed that is where the strongest winds will be. that's the latest forecast from

the hurricane center. -- in heading towards the back of the computer models, that's why we're really seen him -- around pensacola still has to closely watched this. we look fine, miami, key, west palm beach,, we're so gonna get some squally weather, or gusty winds. nothing that will be of concern as far as damage. we're really in the middle, or anywhere near those lines, we still have a lot of disagreement. we still have a lot of four days before it makes it to florida. will canonero this down. we'll spend a lot of focus on these two important models, the american gfs model, last, night it was the central golf, now it is shifted about 100 miles towards tampa. that's not a trend you like during that sarasota tampa area. finally, yasmin, a matter what, we're going to get a lot of rain from the storm. not as concerted with florida as sandy soil, but definitely once we get this heavy rain up

in the carolinas and the southern appalachians. it may flood threat into next weekend. >> i know you're going to be tracking this for us, bill, as you always do. so, we'll check in with you at the top of the next hour. for now, bill kerens, think you. as bill spoke about, pretty widespread going on here when it comes to the storm. preparations underway in the caribbean as well as florida. isn't -- let start with, it's one tropical storm ian expected to hit cuba as a category three or four hurricane, it seems. how are officials they're preparing? >> cuba is gearing up to evacuate people in the west of the island where this hurricane, as it will be, is due to hit on tuesday. the cuban president said today that preserving life, he says, is the most important aim here. frankly speaking, this island has a very good record of doing that when it comes to hurricanes. it was recognized by the un as a global model for hurricane risk prevention back in 2004. if you look at the statistics,

a cuban is approximately ten times less likely to die during a hurricane than someone living in the u.s.. when a hurricane hits. so, for that, part people here are pretty good. the worrying part was saving lives as the economic damage that these hurricanes inevitably bring. cuba's going through a very, very deep economic crisis. in a difficult summer. last month, there is a huge blaze in the islands main oil depot, which has aggregate did existing our cars that millions of people are now living through almost daily, perhaps daily. u.s. actions remain a, place there's not enough food, inflation is rampant. unfortunately, this hurricane is due to pass over the artemis of province. and that province, a huge amount of the food produced in havana's produced. farmers in that province are in a race against time trying to harvest what they can before the hurricane hits. >> cuba, certainly not in a place to possibly handle the damage they could see from this hurricane that is headed towards them. with cuba, we want to go to

florida where stephanie is as well. we know, stephanie, there the president has already approved an emergency declaration. what are you hearing from locals, they're out of the storm? >> good afternoon to you, yasmin. i can tell you that local tara taking it very seriously. i'm here in dunedin, florida, about 30 miles northwest of tampa. right in the gulf. so, the folks here, you can see this pile of sand behind me, they are sandbagging. the city has dropped truckloads of sand here since eight this morning, we've seen a steady stream of cars, people coming here to make these sandbags. i can tell, you we made a couple ourselves and they are not easy to make. it is very hot out here, very humid, and people are taking these warnings very seriously. and officials also want to let people know that, if you get the word to evacuate, they are urging people to go ahead and make sure you evacuate. because there is going to come a point in time, they tell us in the storm, if it doesn't

fact hit the tampa area, that they are not going to be able to come save you. when those winds kick up to about 50 miles an, hour it's unsafe for rescuers to be out in it. you are on your own. so, there's a lot going on here, right now everyone is doing what they can and taking those precautions seriously. >> it austin for us, stephanie, thank you both. continue to stay safe. at least 16 people are now confirmed or suspected to be dead in puerto rico after hurricane fiona ripped through the small island there. around half of puerto rico's one and a half million customers are still without power, a week after fiona made landfall. most power has been restored in the northeast of the country, where the storm caused the least amount of damage. but about 20% of customers are still without water. it's all coming as the island is continuing to deal with the oppressive heat, upwards of 100 degrees yesterday. only adding to all the mystery. >>

[speaking spanish] >> today, new york city mayor eric adams traveling to san juan, where he met with the city's mayor to discuss recovery efforts there as well. then, you've got canada deploying military access today as the enemy landfall there. as an extra tropical cyclone, destroying several homes in the town of channel porto bask. the mayor there saying this, what's actually happening here is total devastation. take a look at those images there, unbelievable. one hospital in nova scotia even asking those who need care not to visit the urgency department. the storm's landfall marks the strongest on record for any storm in the country's history. leaving half 1 million people without power. we are continuing to watch the storms that are happening throughout the country, we're going to bring you more as they

develop. you do that want to talk about the january six committee as well, gearing up for their first public hearing in more than two months. set for primetime on wednesday. trump's legal team facing some key deadlines surrounding their fight over classified documents as well, special master dearie ordering trump's legal team to backup the outlandish claim that the doj planted evidence at mar-a-lago. want to bring in nbc's lauren and analyst glenn kirschner. so this, up lauren, what are we hearing first and foremost ahead of these key dates in the special master back and forth? >> that's right. the special master has given former president donald trump and his legal team until friday, september 30th, to provide evidence for these claims that they've been making over the past few weeks. that the fbi planted evidence during that mar-a-lago surge back in august. these are claims that trump has been making on social media, in tv interviews, his lawyers have also been insinuating these without providing any evidence over the past few weeks for

these claims. so, now, the special master is saying, i want to quote he what he wrote. it's now time -- it's a final opportunity to raise any factual dispute to do the completeness and accuracy of the detail property inventory. which is just a legally stick way of saying to the trump team, okay, you are making these claims in the public arena. now it's time to make these claims in the legal context. the big difference being, now, you're going to make these claims under the threat of perjury. this is all coming as the 11th circuit court also said this past week that these arguments that the trump team has been making, that the former president to declassify these documents and therefore he did nothing wrong, he declassified them, they are ejecting that argument. saying it doesn't matter whether or not the former president to declassify these, these documents belong to the american people. not the president. adam schiff was on television earlier this morning, comment

take on this. let's listen to what he had to say. >> if you could simply declassify, thinking about it, frankly, if that's his view that he's even more dangerous than we may have thought. with that view, he could simply spout off on anything he read in a presidential daily brief or anything he was briefed on by the cia director to a visiting russian delegation, any other delegation. did simply say, i thought about, it therefore where the words came out of my mouth were declassified. >> so, looking ahead to next week, yasmin, bottom line, the trump team can out-present evidence i continue to make these claims that the fbi did plant evidence at mar-a-lago. with the threat of perjury. or they can drop them, those are the two options facing them next week. >> glenn kershner, let's get into it a little bit, jumping off of what lauren had to say. essentially, the trump team saying, the former president i should, say more specifically. the fbi and or the doj planted evidence of mar-a-lago. judge dearie, the special

master, saying show me the evidence. trump demanded the former president saying on fox news especially with sean hannity, i declassified everything just by thinking it. i can, and i didn't fact i did. the judge said, show me, show me the evidence. you say, essentially, the argument you're making essentially as the appointment of the special master is actually hurting but former president and his team's case here. not necessarily what they predicted going into this thing, when i asked for a special master to be appointed. >> yeah, yasmin, they are actually cutting off possible avenues of defense, in the event donald trump is indicted but let's be clear, this is not judge dearie painting them into a corner, this is donald trump. their client painting his own defense team into a corner. because the first question judge dearie asked, which was a responsible question, because he is tasked with reviewing all these documents for possible privilege, so it posed directly the question to the defense,

team tell me what your client declassified. they wrote him a letter saying, you know what, judge dearie, we're not going to tell you that. because it could hamper our ability to defend donald trump in the event he is indicted. that's kind of the defense team contradicting their own client by omission. now, the follow-up question that we've seen from judge dearie is, tell me what documents the fbi planted. i would predict, i know it's a dangerous proposition, they're probably not going to be inclined to answer that question either. because, again, it will be taking way possible defenses in the event donald trump is indicted in the future. >> okay, so, with that, glenn, i want to play you some of the sound. i think you know what i'm going to go to, it is the sound of denver riggleman on 60 minutes talking about this idea, from what he knows, a phone call that was placed from within the white house to a rioter at the capitol. i want to play a little bit of

that, then i want to play the response that jamie raskin gave to my colleague, chuck todd, and beat the price. then we'll have you react on the other side. >> do you get a real aha moment when you see that the white house switchboard head connected to a riders phone call that's happening? that's a pretty big aha moment. wait a minute. someone in the white house was calling -- from the white house while it was going? on >> january 6th. absolutely. >> and you know who both ends of that call -- >> i don't know the white house side. >> that is one of thousands of details that -- are aware of. >> how hard we try to track them who, it was, to have an idea who it was? >> i can't say anything specific about that particular call but we are aware of it and we are aware of lots of contacts between people in the white house and different people who were involved, obviously, in the coup attempt. >> the wonder is whether we will hear more about this come

wednesday during the next hearing. we don't know. that being said, i also want to be clear, we don't know all of the details of this. we don't know who it was, the seniority of the person who made the call from inside the white house to someone outside the capital, all of that being said, your reaction? >> my reaction is we sort of raise a collective eyebrow, because it sounds like we are going to need an explanation. all we know right now, yasmin, as you point out is one end of the call at the white house. the other end of the call has been described as a rioter. we all saw how many people were at the capitol that day and why they are choosing to characterize the person on the other end of the call as a riot-y a rioter. i think that raises more and more questions than answers. i don't think would be wise to speculate about any of this. like i said, raising a collective eyebrow, wanting,

needing, deserving as the american people to hear more about this call. who was on it? what was the content of it? maybe we will hear more about that in the upcoming j six public hearing. >> we will look into that for sure. thank you, glenn, as well. from one trump investigation to the next, of course, later this hour you don't want to miss this. i will be joined by former fbi counterintelligence agent peter strzok to dive into the documents seized from milan at mar-a-lago. also ahead, everybody, you have a strong job market and lower gas prices. the silver lining within this economic headlines and what it means going forward for your wallet. we will get all of that, plus inside the women's rights movement in a ron, where deadly protests are in their ninth day. the importance of social media in the fight against oppression. we will be right back. we will be right back. getting screened for colon cancer,

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growing for a ninth day as iranian state media reports that up to 31 people have died in the protest so far. -- have opted in the 31 provinces triggered by 22 year old mahsa amini. iranian authorities say she was arrested for allegedly violating the country strictly enforced islamic dress code. i mean you died three days after police took her into custody, the according to the

hospital. officials say she sort of heard from a heart attack brought on by pre-existing condition. her family denying she had a pre-existing condition and saying witnesses told them that she was beaten by police. an iranian official say that an investigation into her death was underway. -- thank you for joining us. we appreciate, first, let me ask what you are hearing from friends, family members, people that you know on the ground in iran. >> thank you so much for having me. what we are hearing is the number of arrests are between 30 and 40, at least, we are hearing that a lot of people are being rounded up in the number of people taking down their veil is a lot more than what we see on social media. >> i want to talk about your experiences because you lived in a run up until the age, i believe, of 16 years old in which you and your family fled. one of the reasons why you left

is your vest by the morality police. can you talk to us about that experience, which you actually wrote about i believe back in march. before you tell us, i want to read a bit of what you wrote. you said to this day, i remember the steering mix of emotions familiar to iranian women arrested for this offense. first there was fear and anxiety, then shame and desperation, finally righteous anger. talk to me about that moment, if you would. >> of course. i left iran at age 12 -- [inaudible] could not leave. i went back to visit my sister and age 16 and my auntie [inaudible] who got arrested. all four of us went -- to go it alone. they kept us only for a few hours, four or five hours, and i had to sign that if i had my hair showing again, my bangs were out essentially, that i

would get 50 lashes. under those conditions i was released. when i experienced was only a fraction of what the women of iran feel they today. even those that were never arrested by the middle morality police, people have been arrested, degraded, humiliated, imprisoned because of it. a living, living with this fear day in and day out. >> at the beginning of these protests we were seeing a lot of images coming out of iran weather telegram, whatsapp, instagram as well. that is no longer happening. because of the country wide interim internet shutdown. the government is obviously trying to suppress the people and keep the information from coming out of the country. -- are currently working to get the internet restored for folks there. it is a pretty uphill, impossible task. you write about how important social media is in this era. >> absolutely. i think it is the blood life of

the communications. being able to communicate with each other, what they can do on the space online, having their voice magnified and talking about it is critical for them to support and provide protection on the international stage. it is so critical for people that can do something and and a lot of folks are doing stuff behind the scenes for us to pressure and keep the momentum going. pressuring our governments is absolutely critical. >> often in moments like this, as we watch situations unfold like this in a ron, they have been false starts because of the regime cracking down on people to the point in which they create so much fear people retreat back to their homes and continue on with their lives. the fear is that will happen again. how should the global community, supporting this effort,

iranians, are carrying out every day? >> so we know, even if we don't see it, we know they are in the streets and having these conversations. this movement is unprecedented. you see a feminist movement, young women leading this movement and they have been able to galvanize the country in a way that we have never seen before. there -- includes things like -- that the kurdish region is the light of a ron. we haven't heard such united -- led by women in the country or region. we [inaudible] they want gender equality, and to discrimination, and democracy. we if they can't believe they could get that they would be wasting their lives and now we have mahsa who we kurdish name

is -- you cannot use that name outside of her family because of gender discrimination. -- the numbers are growing and they're putting their lives on the line in order to -- >> thank you so much for joining us at this hour. i hope you continue to use your voice as this conflict in iran continues. thank you. coming up, everybody. how far a lifelong republican, liz cheney, so she's willing to go to stop trump's mega from getting control of washington. >> i'm going to make sure that donald trump is not the nominee, if the is the nominee i won't be a republican. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: my customer enjoys time with her family. so when her windshield got a crack... she scheduled with safelite in just a few clicks. we came to her house... ...replaced the windshield... and installed new wipers. that's service on her time. >> grandkid: here you go!

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democrats if that's what it took to defeat trump loyalist republicans. she has questioned her future in the gop and said that the january six hearing may not be the last one. all this going to -- standing by for us in austin. lots of headlines made their, to say the least. by congresswoman liz cheney. first and foremost, we thought led wednesday would be the last of them initially saying that it's not. check to that, so top on that if you would ali. also, this idea that there's the possibility that she could easily leave the republican party. >> yeah, both of those headlines coming out of her conversation here in austin last night. the first, that this could be the last of the hearing. i think that when congresswoman cheney says that she expects there to be more, certainly we could see more hearings in the investigating and storytelling role that we have seen time and again over the course of the summer from the committee. we expect that's what wednesday is going to look like but there are also promises of when they

released their interim report and then later their final report towards the end of the year that they could do hearings around those, the format would likely change in less of a storytelling mold and more of a fact gathering in something it all up mode. still, we expect those to be hearings have some points later this year. as far as cheney's role within her party, though we know that she has lost her primary battle, she is now effectively a free agent and what she made here clear is that she, is a republican, she is not willing to leave the party at, but that doesn't mean that she is standing by for republicans, especially if not their election deniers. this now she put it. >> so you going to put campaign for katie hobbs, the democratic governor candidate for governor in arizona? >> i will do my best make sure that carrie lake is not elected. >> so,, does that include

campaigning for democrats if that's what it takes? >> yes. . >> wow. >> yasmin, it's clear that when she says she will do whatever it takes to beat election buyers, including trump, not back in office, it makes sense to hear her say she would campaign for democrats but nonetheless it striking because when you consider the fact that liz cheney is a republican, her voting record is more than 90% with donald trump but it's a reminder that to be a republican right now does not mean to be a conservative in the mold of the cheney's, it is in the mold of the donald trump. she is not that. >> not that you go just yet, because did she talk at all because about whether or not she is going to run for president come 2024 and if her decision is based at all on guidance she is gaining from her former price vice president father? >> certainly she talked about the advice she gets from her father, things like defending

the republic or things they have talked about. she did not go so far as to say that she would run for president but she continues to leave the store open, saying that she will do whatever it takes to make sure that trump is not in the oval office and she did lay this metric that if you were to become the republican standard bearer in 2024, at that point she would leave the party. it's clear that as she is figuring out what to do these midterms, 2024 has to be front of mind. >> ali, as always, thank you my friend. since fbi agents are at mar-a-lago, former president trump has repeated two main claims. one of which is that he declassified all the documents found their, even just if he was in his head. the second one is that some documents could actually have been planted by the fbi or doj. well the former president lie lawyers have not tried to argue the first claim in court, and the special master has asked them to prove the second claim is evident. he says, show me what you got. by tomorrow the federal

government must certify the police of items is complete and accurate. by friday, the trump team must sense him in an affidavit identifying exactly which items were planted. we want to bring up former fbi intelligence in counterintelligence agent, author of compromised, counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. peter, i was talk to you, thank you for joining us on this. it doesn't necessarily seem like the trump team or lawyers have much of a defense on any of the stuff. i would be surprising if they produced evidence friday pertaining to the planting of evidence by the fbi, and or the fact that it's a moot point but the former president actually declassified all this information in only moved because of the decision made by the 11th circuit. all that being said, what defenses do you see of the former presidents team floating here? >> i don't think they have many. this is always been from trump

side, something to fund-raise off of, so you say to his base, to continue the narrative that somehow he has been wrongly investigated in the deep state is going after him and that he can use this to engender more support for this nonsense tale that he is trying to get away from any accountability for any potential criminal acts he engaged in. at the end of the day, was refreshing is that all this nonsense in this land of meghan make believe hits the judicial system of the united states and crumbles, i mediately. that's what you have seen from judge dearie, the special master laying out a aggressive timeline saying we have heard east make the statements that you declassified them, we heard you make statements that evidence was planted. fine, by friday, give details of what you mean by that exactly and not only that but you have till in the next monday to have a complete view with a privilege lock for anything you claim as executive

privilege, client attorney privilege, to bring this issue too ahead. so i don't see any argument that trump can make, more important i don't see any argument that attorneys representing trump are going to be willing to put their name on the line for something that isn't supported by the law, isn't supported by fact, and we have to get them into a lot of trouble ethically and with their bar memberships. i don't expect to see much of anything of substance coming from trump and his attorneys this week. >> what concerns you the most about the fact that the former president's trip floating this idea that the fbi planted evidence at mar-a-lago? >> well i think the greatest concern is that it's part of a broader narrative that trump is engaged in, that he is being unlawfully investigated. that all of these investigations whether the city new york, georgia, various investigations or the january six committee are particularly those being done by the department of justice and fbi. whether january six in his actions in or around the

insurrection or is all of these documents in the obstruction that he is alleged to have potentially engaged in. somehow, all of these efforts, all of these actions are somehow nonsense and they are targeting him without any basis and trying to persuade a substantive part of the population that this isn't a legitimate, that this is some abuse of power. what concerns me the most are people who listen to him and are conned into believing it. it is obviously not the truth and the idea that this is somehow all made up and he shouldn't face any sort of accountability for his actions is just ludicrous and what worries me is that he is pushing this narrative and it sounds, through some of these ominous statements, that he and sean hannity and others are making are heading to a very dark place and might be a precursor to a call to violence and a great deal of things which be very, very problematic for our nation. >> do you think that we are prepared for something like that if, in fact, what they are

doing is setting us up for a precursor as to what is to come, possibly something worse than what we experience on january 6th? >> i am very worried. i think we saw some that earlier in the summer, when we had the kind of deranged gunman who went to an fbi office in cincinnati trying to attack it and was later killed in a standoff with police. we see, notwithstanding that obvious violence there has been no reduction in sort of historic rhetoric so i do think that we are headed to a place, whether the midterm elections, aftermath of the midterm elections, where there is a very real possibility not only of violence but particularly of trump and other republican leaders playing into this narrative that violence might somehow be appropriate. that is horrible, dangerous, and i'm really worried about where we are headed this fall. >> peter strzok, as always, good to talk to the sunday. coming up next, everybody. what the federal reserve's rising interest rates are doing to the housing market that have

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and how things have really hit the brakes nationwide. real estate sales, home sales, now down 20% from a year ago and the inventory of the homes on the market are up 23%. yet, home voices are starting to level off and they are still increasing roughly at the rate of inflation. let's take another look at those mortgage rates which are really the culprit here in a lot of ways. 6.2 9% on a 30 year fixed rate mortgage as of last week, as more than double where we were a year ago. it is the highest we have been since just before the market most housing market crashed in 2008. this is kind of what the federal reserve has been going for in raising interest rates, but nonetheless it's creating affordability issues even at home prices lowering. the median price, or medium payment i should say on a medium loan now is up 50% from a year ago. we talk to one realtor out here in the bay area who says that she gets what jerome powell,

the vice chairman and his cohorts in the reserve are going for. she is hopes they don't overdo it. >> things are out of hand. the offers i was getting in the first five months. it was out of hand. it was really, we were going to high and too much. it did need to cool. we did need to temper that off, i do think we could stop now. okay you know? i wish i could whisper in his ear and say, stop, this is enough. >> it does not sound, though, like that is going to happen. the fed is saying that in order to get inflation under the economy, more rate hikes are on the way. he has been. >> scott coming for us, thanks for bringing that to us. despite record high inflation you have these numbers in the stock market, quite a tumultuous week to say the least, then the high mortgage rates. it isn't all bad news when it comes to the economy. there is a silver lining. guess who is bringing it to us?

richard louis, standing by with his orange tie because that means happiness. >> it does. you and i have been team long enough, just good stuff. to scott's report here, the last two months we have seen -- price go down 6%. that is a silver lining, we are looking at that. okay, lots to talk about today. let's get to one thing, yasmin. as many advisers say, don't leave your money on autopilot, gas prices, for instance were all lying that right now. this week they went out just for sense from three 71, but we have had close to 100 days long downward streak. in some cities, economists say we still may see more drops. that goes from 11 million jobs available. that is an all-time record for help wanted signs. this gives workers who want to change or more choices a big reason to smile, -- even saying that two out of three feel confident about work

prospects coming here. yasmin, for those with a little cash there is your could old-fashioned saving account. that is the silver lining as you know, higher rates do mean that you are getting higher interest and -- for some for the last week, some banks now are new 260 a year on a 10,000 dollar balance. that will go higher, they say. another cash opportunity, financial adviser saying work with them to see if buying on dips make sense for your portfolio. again, they are saying work with your financial adviser. guess what, despite some grim headlines in a lot of this recently, americans don't seem that worried. money anxiety index says that last month we were at a comfy 54 anxiety level a year ago and over 70. that changes as we just breathe. and where orange ties. >> richard louis, thank you. after the break, nuclear weapon

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it's also said that the vice president's visit to the region, harris is on her way now and expected to be in south korea later on this week. the visit is coming after she attends the state funeral on tuesday for the slain former japanese prime minister -- as former policy editor in chief for a very -- ravi, thanks for joining me on this. talk to me about the timing of the testing of this short range ballistic missiles by north korea with the arrival of this u.s. military ship and, of course, the arrival of the vice president of the united states just a couple of days. >> as you say, the timing is both significant and also not. it's significant because, as you say, vice president kamala harris will be in the region. japan has a new prime minister, of course everybody will be assembling for the state funeral of the former prime minister of japan, shinzo abe. there's a lot of tension in the region and you can imagine that north korea's kim and wants to say, hey, what about me?

also, we shouldn't read too much into this. this is, at least by one count the 19th such test by north korea this year alone. this is something that is quite familiar in terms of pattern of what north korea has been doing over the last couple of years now. so, taking in that context it really is a call for attention. >> it seems like a tension seeking policy from north korea, per usual. i also want to talk russia, here obviously with some of the threats that have been made from russian president vladimir putin. first, i want to play for you some sound from national security adviser jake sullivan who was on with my colleague, -- earlier today. take a listen and we will talk after. >> if he is publicly threatening with nuclear weapons why not send a public message, which i'm sure the people in europe and -- would like to hear that says, if you crossed this line -- the door mr., putin. if >> russia crosses this line

there will be cross catastrophic consequences for russia. the united states will respond decisively. in private channels we are spelled out in greater detail exactly what that would mean, but we want to be able to have the credibility of speaking directly to senior leadership of russia and laying out for them what the consequences will be, without getting into a rhetorical tit-for-tat publicly. >> by the way, it's not lost on anybody that this is exactly what vladimir putin wanted. he wanted the world to talk about his veiled threats, where he said i'm not bluffing as you thought i was left last time. >> what did you think of what sullivan had to say? >> well, you know it's the type of -- because on one hand you want to say there will be severe consequences if russia does, for example, use a tactical nuclear device. at the same time america is on a similar pressure to states are leaving too many things on the table, after all russia is at war with ukraine. even though doesn't call it that. the war atrocities are horrific and there is a lot of pressure for washington to do more, not

less. it is difficult tight walk for jigsaw levin to walk that in signaling, of course, then a nuclear escalation would be something that america would take very, very seriously. privately, yes, indeed there have been things discussed that they could roll out that would hurt russia further. i think what is very significant here, as well, is what other countries may do. over the last couple of weeks, now, we have begun to see signs that china, india for example, have been pressuring putin behind the scenes to stop this war. that kind of pressure, of course, would ask really dramatically for putin to go down that route. he needs his -- as we see last week, biden trying to call up 300,000 more -- boone is portraying signs of desperation. i think this is one more of those. >> ravi, thank you so much, good to talk to you. coming up in our next hour, everybody.

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