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committee's public hearing on wednesday. panel vice chair liz cheney dropping hints about possible criminal referrals. and whether we will hear from the former vice president, mike pence. >> are you optimistic, based on the conversations, that we will see him testify? >> i am hopeful that vice president pence will recognize his obligations. >>plus, what members of congress are saying about a phone call plays from the white house to a rioter on capitol grounds during that insurrection. >> when you see that the white house switchboard had connected to a rioters phone while it's happening, that's a pretty big aha moment. >> and aha moment, everything else calling the rioters -- >> on january 6th. absolutely. >> and you knew who both ends of that call? >> i only know one end of that call. i don't know the white house and. >> alarming finding. what can you confirm? >> that's one of thousands of
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details that the committee is aware f. >> i'm also going to get reaction from congressman -- on that, plus my conversation with him about the chances we get the electoral reform act become a reality. also, we are going to talk midterms, everybody. there's lots of money. lots of ideas. but could elevating extreme candidates from supporting the former president drive a wedge between democrats and joe biden. that conversation coming up. we are also watching an election happening in one place you might not expect, italy. right now, billions are deciding whether to cast their vote for a candidate who could become the first woman to lead that country but is also leading a far-right nationalist movement. we've also seen elsewhere -- we live in the ground -- he believes that russian president is not bluffing when
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it comes to nuclear threats. we have a former u.s. general standing by to give us his thoughts on this terrifying tactic. we want to start, though, with new reaction this morning. that stunning claim from former january 6th committee staffer and congressman -- who, as we played there, told 60 minutes that there was a call between the white house and a rioter on january 6th. here is jamie raskin responding to that. >> that's one of thousands of details that that committee is aware f. to me, it's interesting but much less interesting than the fact that donald trump told the crowd in public, you've got to fight like hell. >> of course, this is coming as we continue to learn more today from committee members about what can be expected from their investigation going forward, including, of course, this wednesday's upcoming hearing. we want to bring in nbc's standing by for us. walk us through this, ali, if you will. what are committee members
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saying about that 60 minutes bombshell we heard? as well as what to expect on wednesday and beyond? >> yeah, yasmin. judging from committee members reactions on this sunday show this morning to this 60 minute clip, it looks like they would've rather been talking about the -- the form is congressman comment on 60 minutes. they downplayed his role on that committee and seem to pour cold water on his role in the investigative work of the committee as a whole. in an 18 into nbc news from the january 6th committee, they even said he had, quote, limited knowledge and left the committee staff before the hearings and most of the investigative work began. they say he told them he was leaving to work for a nonprofit, helping ukraine. we now know he was writing a book that will be released that day before this wednesday hearing. congressman jamie raskin -- you pay a laid a piece of that
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clip at the top -- aware of this call between the white house and a capitol rioter. he says that's really a drop in the bucket when you compare it to the massive scope of the committee's investigation. we have reached out to riggleman for reaction to the committee members reactions to this. we have not heard back yet. yasmin, committee members are dropping a hint as to what to expect in this wednesday hearing, more so than we learned yesterday. they say not to expect any sort of reference to ginni thomas's testimony on wednesday. they say that we will learn more information that will really stem off of the revelations we've learned in past hearings. things like secret service communications, a violent extremism that fueled the attack on the capitol. raskin actually hinted today that this hearing on wednesday may not actually be the committee's last hearing. take a listen here. >> it may be the last investigative public hearing, what we are going to try to
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round out the factual narrative. i'm hopeful, speaking as one member, that we will have a hearing that lays out all of our legislative recommendations about how to prevent coups, insurrections, political violence and electoral sabotage in the future. this is a clear and present danger continuing right to this day. >> raskin wrapped up that interview by telling our own chuck todd that he hopes the committee will wrap up its entire investigation before the end of the year, yasmin. >> allie raffa for us. good to talk to. -- congressman raja krishnamoorthi, democrat with illinois. we appreciate it. let's pick up where i left off. that is what we can expect from wednesday. just kind of -- that 30,000 foot view. what are you expecting to see? what are you looking for come wednesday's hearings? >> i think we will learn more news about what happened on january 6th. i think we will also probably, based on what we've seen before,
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probably more information coming from republicans about what transpired on january 6th. i have to say that the information that comes from republicans is especially credible because rather than being clear in talking to the january 6th committee, in a lot of cases, this actually harms them a long term. that's why it is coming off as credible, not to mention the fact that a lot of times they are in the rooms where these conversations are held. that's why some of these insights are rather credible and persuasive. >> let's, then, talk with that about what we heard from denver riggleman on 60 minutes. this idea of a phone call was made from the white house switchboard to a rioter on the capitol grounds. he knows who received that call, that he said, in that 60 minutes interview. he doesn't know who placed a call from inside the white house. as elie was saying, it seemed
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to me, as she noted as well, a lot of folks are downplaying it. wishing they were talking more about what they were anticipating on wednesday versus what denver riggleman had to say on 60 minutes. what did you make of the information he shared? is it something that contains you? why do you think they are downplaying this today? >> the short answer is, i don't know, yasmin. i don't know the nature exactly of what mr. riggleman contended. i do know that -- i think the white house, to the extent that donald trump had a role in inspiring what happened on that day, the eerie resemblance between what he was tweeting and what was being said at the rallies and goes to just this whole issue of his corrupt intent with regard to that day, that's perhaps the most difficult element to prove with regard to any charges that might be leveled against him or
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others at the white house. i think that whether he knew what he was doing was wrong at the time he was doing it, and whether he was consciously inspiring people to essentially what to do what they did on january 6th, which was breached the capitol, commit an insurrection. those all go to the heart of the hearings and the investigation the committee is doing. for that matter, what the doj is doing as well. >> congressman, before we talk about the electoral reform act, i want you to take a listen to your colleague, adam schiff, talking about the department of justice and how he feels as if enough time has passed. and they need to act here when it comes to january 6th. take a listen. >> it has been very slow in my view. we are now more than a year and a half after the events of january 6th. still, there seem to be at least, from what we can gather in the public record, areas
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that the justice department hasn't fully investigated. the justice department knew, for example, that donald trump was on the phone with a secretary of state of georgia, demanding that secretary find 11,780 votes that don't exist. he had that information for a long-time. i don't think that should be left to the fulton county district attorney alone. >> let me ask you this, congressman. much of the analysis surrounding whether or not the doj will move forward, especially from former prosecutors, is merrick garland has to make sure he will win this case of a move forward with it because you don't want to prosecute a former president and then actually lose. do you think that's being taken into consideration and deciding whether or not they should move forward on these plethora of investigations? do you think they need to act now? >> i think they can do both. i think that they've just been -- i mentioned this before on your program months ago -- there doesn't seem to be the hustle necessary to really
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pursue these cases to the ground. absolutely. they need to do everything they can to determine whether wrongdoing was committed and who should be held culpable. they need to make sure that if anything proceeds, they do so successfully. but over again, we just see a slowness to there investigation that leads people like me to question why have we not done more faster? still only 800 of the thousand 2000 people who actually breached the capitol have actually been prosecuted or arrested, even. we still don't even know who planted the bomb found 200 feet -- from my office window on that day, yasmin. people like me do this from a professional and personal perspective, as being rather
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distressing. >> are you and happy the way in which the attorney general has gone about the investigations into the january 6th insurrection overall? >> i think they haven't gone fast enough. i think now is the time to put your foot -- put the pedal to the metal, so to speak -- >> got it. >> unfortunately, we have an election coming up -- not that they should do things for a political calendar. but if i knew -- for some reason there is a different composition in the congress and they decide they want to stymie this investigation, they can do so through different means. and we will not have gotten as far as we should with the investigation. >> can we talk about the electoral reform act? this is something that would reform how congress certifies elections. i want to read for you what the washington post editorial board is saying about this. obviously, the two different versions sitting in the house
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and the senate. how to reconcile the two, congress must pass a bill that can be the filibuster in the senate, the lining up of cosponsors proves the compromise, the chambers truck this summer is the best bet going on to say the senate should adopt some of the house ideas to enhance the proposal. how do you see this whole thing playing out? >> i think whatever passes the senate will pass the house. at the same time, i hope that they include some of the provisions included in the house not in the senate. regardless, i think we have to pass something as soon as possible this year to prevent two things from happening. one, being any miss impression that the vice president of the united states can somehow reject the certifications of electors -- change that presidential outcome. and number two, that the threshold be raised significantly for any individual objections to be
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raised to the counting of those electoral college votes. you know, last time both those issues caused chaos, as you know, on january 6th. it fueled the insurrection and all the events that took place that. >> democratic congressman -- thank you so much for talking to us on this sunday. >> thank, you yasmin. >> let's talk weather everybody. we've got a lot going on right now. we want to talk about tropical storm ian. it's rapidly, as we are learning now, intensifying in the caribbean. state of emergency in effect for the entire state of florida, anticipating what is to come. making landfall likely later on this week. let's bring back in abc -- tracking it all for us. phil, give us the headlines. here what folks can expect, where this thing is going to wobble and the intensity of it all. >> yeah, jasmine. we just got in our new european model that's what has happened in the last hour. that will complete our new weather computer model runs
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from the morning. we get two big updates, one in the morning, one at night. the euro model didn't change much. fairly targeting the tampa area, sarasota, pinellas county, tampa bay. that's not what they want to hear. last night there was a storm somewhere 8 am thursday, a little north east of tampa. pretty much over tampa. this would be the same exact sort of track. that didn't change. that's not what you want to hear in the tampa area. you do need to be pretty preparing at least 3 to 4 days from now, that possible landfall wednesday night, thursday morning. that's only one computer model. our american computer model was way off the coast last night. you can see it with all the white circles and the spinning there. and then this morning, it shifted 100 miles toward tampa. one of these computers will be right, the other wrong. the american model hinting at heading toward that european solution. obviously, the west coast of florida, things looked a bit better yesterday. not today. we are trending back towards the coast. a lot of our hurricane computer models, you are seeing the
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squiggly lines here, each line represents a possible path of the center of eta. some are still targeting, it's kind of divided into camps. some take a right turn towards saratoga, tampa bay the other ones go towards -- tallahassee. the other thing is, it is a disorganized storm right now. we love this. we want this to stay as weak as possible as long as possible, because it will eventually start to strengthen. jasmine, we had about 48 to 60 hours to strengthen. then it will weaken after that. we want to keep this as weak as possible because we know it's heading for florida. >> is there anything to read into, bill, if you would for a moment indulge me, the track of this storm, when hitting the united states is pretty similar to michael? >> yeah, michael came in further to the left and took that right turn there when it got to about pensacola and went out towards the appalachian bay, right where that dip is there.
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this one yesterday looks very similar to hurricane charlie, coming up over western cuba, and then turning into that tampa, or just south of the tampa area. then our european model still saying that this could be a similar chart. charlie was category four at landfall. we don't need that at all. that is still on the table, still a possibility. not a cat four, but a category two or three, definitely. >> category one, cat two, cat three, cat four, the highest you don't necessarily want, but cat one, cat two can create -- bill clarence, thanks for staying on top of that for us. we appreciate it. >> still ahead, everybody. voting underway in italy right. now it could lead to the country's first female prime minister or. one that's being compared to dictator, get this, vinita mussolini. bless the power of the hispanic vote in key battleground states with national implications. we will be right back.
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the midterms are just a few weeks away. much of the focus is on races happening in quickly seeing states around the country. arizona, for instance. incumbent senator mark kelly is maintaining an edge over trump backed republican candidate blake masters. in fact, the cook political report change their categorization of the race from toss-up to leaning democratic after the latest fund raising numbers were released. all this happening while the
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crucial latino vote in arizona has yet to be swayed toward either party. the states hispanic population of over 2 million could literally be that difference in this election. the question is, can either party step up and reach these voters, get them to polls? joining me now is -- welcome. great to have you. i want to read for folks a little bit of your reporting here and then we will talk. you write this: 42% of latino said nobody had contacted them about this year's midterm election. that's bad news for republicans jubilant over the end of roe v. wade, which gave women the right to abortion nationwide but it's also bad news for democrats, who should be ashamed of themselves for largely ignoring this important voting bloc. can you expand on this for me? >> you know what i find, incredibly disheartening that no one had contacted most latinos for 42% of the latinos
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-- as a beginning of august. by any party, by any means. they have not gotten an email, any phone call. nothing whatsoever. so, essentially, democrats and republicans were suing latinos had just going to vote just because, right? we see this in every single cycle, where latinos -- are taken for granted until the last few weeks of the election. i see that right now as we speak. i do see some candidates in the democratic party and republican party here in arizona, they are going to reach out to latinos right. now again, only a few weeks away from the election. that's exactly what they have done in every single cycle. by now, it might be too late. >> it's astounding. especially considering some of the results, surprising results, in certain states we saw back in 2020 in the presidential election as. i want to dig deeper into the
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numbers, because i found them fascinating. talking about abortion, the hot, topic the biggest topic for democrats going into the midterm election. if you're looking at numbers here, a whopping 80% of arizona hispanics support keeping abortion legal. you would think if you are a democrat, campaigning, you would really want to be digging into this number and try to get out as many latino voters as possible. obviously, according to some of the polling you showed, that's not necessarily happening. how, though, are both parties in the state of arizona handling the issue of roe? >> yes, those numbers are very telling. 80% of latinos here in arizona, and nationwide, in the same survey, it showed a great majority of latinos also support keeping abortion legal, regardless of their personal beliefs. that's gonna be very difficult for the democratic party -- i'm sorry, the republican party
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-- to break into it because we know that a lot of those latinos are catholic. they probably are pro-choice as well. they do believe that it needs to be legal, abortion needs to be legal here, and arizona. it just happened on friday. abortion, it is illegal here. a judge just ruled that arizona will be implementing the law that was first enacted in 1864. in 1864. so, clearly, that's making national news. >> -- democrats have a real opportunity here to reach out to these kinds of electorate. unfortunately, i don't see it yet. hopefully, they will take this opportunity and reach out to latinos in different languages and messaging. this is where the message is really resonate with hispanics, regardless of political affiliation. we know most latinos, nationwide, but also here, in
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our state, our border state, to align with the democratic party. however, they are -- there is a sizable number that are republican. we know those are saying that illegal -- abortion should be illegal. >> thank you so much. up next, everybody. battling against maga republicans. how president biden's plans to defeat the gop differ from many within his own party. we will be right back. be right back. e a u-neck, that's when you know, it's half-washed. downy has 7 benefits that condition and smooth fibers so clothes look newer, longer. feel the difference with downy. homegrown tomatoes...nice. i want to feel in control of my health, so i do what i can. what about screening for colon cancer? when caught in early stages it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers, even in early stages.
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republicans spurred by former president trump a key issue for the midterms. but what he has not mentioned is the fact that many of those former republicans won their primaries in part thanks to millions of dollars in donations from democrats who had hoped to make the general election and easier race. nbc's josh lederman joining me now with more on this. josh, democrats played a little bit of a dangerous game here that could end up with maga republicans essentially heading to washington. how is the white house responding? >> yasmin, this is really a tactic democrats pioneered a decade ago during the 2012 senate campaign to help former senator -- who was able to use that strategy to successfully defeat former congressman todd agan. the way this works, to break it down for our viewers, is democrats are looking at the field of republicans in primaries and saying, okay, if we can help republicans and
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protesters protesting -- 300,000 soldiers, that could go up, most russian man between the ages of 18 and 65 are thought to automatically counted as reservists. meanwhile, so-called referendums continue in occupied parts of ukraine, as russia looks to annex the territories. and fallout continues over putin's comments about nuclear weapons. nbc's erin maclachlan is in kharkiv. erin, give us the latest, if you would. >> hey, there. -- russian president vladimir putin's recent moves declaring a partial mobilization triggering a tidal wave of men leaving the country as well as thousands taking to the streets in protest are all signs russia is struggling and struggling badly on the battlefield, vowing the united states will do what it can to help ukraine capitalized on recent gains. this as president zelenskyy, in an interview, with cbs news,
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called on the united states and others to give more in the way of air defense systems, saying that u.s. has the -- they need more to protect ukrainian crowns and cities. he also, once again, called out the russian president for what he calls nuclear blackmail. >> [interpreter] look, maybe yesterday it was a bluff, now it could be a reality. let's look, what is that contemporary use of nuclear weapons or nuclear blackmail? he targeted and occupied our nuclear power plant in the city of -- i don't think he is bluffing. i think the world's deterring it's and containing this threat. we need to keep putting pressure on him and not allow him to continue. >> over the weekend, president putin signed a new law
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essentially making desertion or failure to show up for military service punishable by up to ten years in prison. this as president zelenskyy addressing the russian people this weekend directly in russia, urging them to surrender if they are part of this partial mobilization, saying they will be treated fairly by ukraine. saying it's better to surrender than to be tried as a war criminal. back to you. >> thank you to erin maclachlan for that. i wanna bring in -- peter zwack, who served in moscow for two years as the u.s. senior defense official and attaché to the russian federation. general, thank you for joining us on this. we appreciate it. can we talk first about what it does to the morale of people you want fighting in your favor, i.e., these 300,000 or so men, that president putin is looking to draft into the war efforts inside ukraine, that he is
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threatening with punishment of up to ten years in prison, along with now reports have these individuals many inside russia fleeing the country, so as not to fight? >> good afternoon to you and your viewers. yes, the morale has got to be terrible. basically, a lot of russian, mostly men, have been wrenched out of their lives, wrenched out of their homes across russia. they are predominantly out in the provinces one. -- bad news about what's going out in ukraine is out. the regime has been able to change it as the defense has struggled. but no, it is out. look at the footage. a lot of these guys are middle aged. they are fathers. some served before brothers.
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no. russia does have social media internally. it's all over. how the regime balances this is going to be their challenge. i think it only gets worse. in many ways, yeah, they are being sent off to an unpopular, dangerous war where there are a lot of people getting killed and they know it. morale is bad. and the bad news is trickling up from the front, a little bit like the russian army in 1917 being slaughtered on the eastern front before they decided to -- before the revolution. >> general, with that, i want to talk about the potential nuclear threat as well. from president vladimir putin, right? we heard from president zelenskyy and what he had to say. also, national security officer jake sullivan appeared on meet the press today, speaking about just the, and how they've been
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in contact with senior levels of russians over the last few days of the kremlin -- over the last couple of days. let's hear a little bit more about what jake sullivan had to say and then we will talk. >> let me say it plainly: if russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences for russia. the united states will respond decisively. in private channels, we have spelled out in greater detail exactly what that would mean. we want to be able to have the credibility of speaking directly to senior leadership in russia and laying out for them what the consequences would be without getting into a rhetorical tit-for-tat publicly. >> general, what do you make about the threats from moscow, from putin, specifically, and that preparedness of the united states, what we heard from jake sullivan? >> whatever we call rhetoric, it's out there. russia is equipped with
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civilization ending nuclear weapons. it could create great mischief tactically in ukraine or somewhere else. it can create great problems by just creating a nuclear -- zaporizhzhia, the power station there. they use that nuclear threat strategic nuclear threat as -- there are a lot of russians out there that have got to be very uncomfortable as well. remember that sting song in 1985, russians, it says russians love their children as well. that messaging jake sullivan is talking about is critical. for sure, it's going on. it isn't just u.s. messaging it's coming from other capitals in europe and around the world. yes, the consequences would be gigantic if there is a nuclear instant of any scale. i think the russians -- the specifics of that, though,
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have stayed in close channels. >> retired brigadier general, peter zwack. thank you so much. great to talk to you, sir. >> always. >> up next, everybody. the global fight for women's rights. -- iranian we whose as she was arrested at the age of 16 by iran's morality police. we will be right back. will be right back. for more on the new boss, here's patrick mahomes. incredible - meatballs, fresh mozzarella and pepperon- oh, the meatball's out! i thought he never fumbles. the new subway series. what's your pick? (vo) the fully electric audi e-tron family is here. with models that fit any lifestyle. i thought he never fumbles. and innovative ways to make your e-tron your own. through elegant design and progressive technology. all the exhilaration, none of the compromise. the audi e-tron family. progress that moves you.
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mahsa amini, some are drawing comparisons to not only women's rights but human rights protests around the world. iranian american writer -- writes this. whether fighting for the right to control our reproductive lives in the united states, the right to life without military occupation in palestine or cashmere, or the right to free speech in saudi arabia, women are left with few options but to rise up. women's rights are under attack globally, and iranian women are on the front lines of this battle. we can learn from their courage and standing up in the face of state violence and police brutality as well. joining me now is iranian american writer and community organizer -- thank you so much for joining us. i want to -- itv were coming up and i said a woman who had been arrested at the age of 16 by the morality police. that, in fact, it was in reference to the guest we had in the last hour. i wanted to make that correction on air so we are clear about who in fact you
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are. i want to read more from your piece because you have so many brilliant moments in this piece. you write this. as an iranian american muslim woman who chooses to wear the hijab, as you are wearing it right now, i am outraged at the way that my identity is being exploited by the iranian state to maintain power and impose repressive regulations on iranian women who choose not to wear the hijab. what can you talk more about this? >> absolutely. thank you for having me. i think in this moment we are seeing such a beautiful intersection of women really leading the way in iran with the central slogan of women, life, freedom. which really shows iranian women are demanding more than just the evolution of the morality police that led to the death of mahsa amini in the first place. but actually, the systems that uphold the entire structure in which there is an idea that the
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state can co-opt religion, a state can actually enforce certain things like a hijab or things like, quote unquote, morality on a population. the demands right now are centering women in the rights for liberation, but they are so much broader than that. they are tying women's rights to economic justice, the social justice, and really recognizing that we are fighting for a complete systems change that places women at the center. that progress should not have a gendered -- what's important about what we can learn from these movements is that, a, the united states is not innocent in this, i think especially when we talk about the connection between the economic systems in iran right now and the economy, the way in which u.s. sanctions have directly harmed women, particularly ethnic -- and others across iran. i think it draws very strong -- what's happening to women in iran as well as women around the world and the ways in which women's issues are kind of
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always push to the sidelines and we think of ways to help, but i think it's sometimes can be quite ironic. we are seeing a lot of outrage for those in the united states, in ways that cause u.s. intervention. sanctions, or bombs that kill more women in iran and do more than good. >> you said so much. i wish we had an hour to talk about this. the first thing i want to dig into, the reason i wanted to have you on, is highlighting the fact that while we are here in the united states looking at what's happening in iran, outraged as to what's happening, the way women are and have been treated for so long, being treated as really second-class citizens, really third class citizens in some respects right? you are seeing what's taking place in the united states, you bring it up in your piece, and as i read, when it comes to women's reproductive rights, the autonomy women have lost when it comes to making decisions about their own bodies? >> absolutely.
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yes. i think that something -- i think it's really beautiful about this moment is that these chants of women, life, freedom, encapsulate that this is not just about a specific situation happening in iran but that iranian women are showing the model, that progress and liberation for all people can be led by women and my center women's rights. what we are seeing in iran is the logical outcome of decades of violence against women. i think what's important for an american audience to recognize is that it's important for us to also -- that we play a role in this and also we are not innocent. the united states also has a history of suppressing women in this country, indigenous women, black women, women of color, trans women. i think it's really important that we are able to connect while also recognizing that there is a difference, of course, between what's happening in iran, not to compare at all what's happening in different parts of the
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world. but that this is an opening, a catalyst, and a call by iranian women on the ground to join and stand up in solidarity with iranian women in iran, and -- >> with that you also brought up the idea of sanctions, we know iran has been sanctioned for quite some time and has really cripple the economy to the point of which joblessness is incredibly high, especially among young men and women that make up half the population of that country. it's hard for people to put food, really, on their table as well, which speaks to the courage they have to go to the streets and continue to protest even with these hardships. as america looking in, as the world looking in, what is to be done to continue this movement forward? we've seen so many times in which this movement has been eventually suppressed due to the governments hard-line. >> absolutely. first and foremost is to listen.
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i think americans tend to struggle with this one. we see so many self proclaimed experts pop-up overnight, many of whom who do not speak farsi or have been to iran. listen to the voice of iranians in iran who are on the ground fighting for her liberation and justice and are really on the front lines of this, uplifting their voices is so important. i think beyond that, like i mentioned, and as you mentioned as well, sanctions are actually backfiring. sanctions, historically, have never worked, we've seen it with the rock, so many countries. in iran, for example, if sanctions have emboldened the hard-liners in iran and have allowed the government to become more repressive. for example, one common practice the iranian government does whenever protests get this massive is it that they begin to start shutting off internet connection. when the united states has sanctioned the iranian
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government and people, and there is no other option to be able to have internet access outside of state given phones, state given sim cards, state controlled internet. it is so easy to censor voices very quickly. when we think about sanctions and who they harm, it's always people on the ground, at the expense -- sorry, the government becomes emboldened, has more access to actually single-handedly and unilaterally oppress people when the countries cut off from the world and people have no access to the outside world. >> thank you so much. i do hope you come back and we get to continue this conversation. we will be right back. ight back. the tender rotisserie style chicken is sublime and the roasted garlic aioli adds a lovely pecan flavor. man, the second retirement really changed you. the new subway series. what's your pick? moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq.
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hold elections for the next prime minister, the leading candidate to in the job is georgia maloney. a far-right nationalist, if she wins she will be the country's first female prime minister. i want to bring in claudia who is in rome for us. claudia, give us the latest for this election and really talk us through why italians are open it seems to someone like georgia. >> hey, holes close in about an hour from now and then we will know the results. if the polls are correct, then yes georgia maloney has 25% of the vote. that means her party the far-right movement will win this election. she may become the first female prime minister.
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why is this a concern to some medallions and some abroad, including in the european union? first of all, it surpassed believes. she's only 45. she is fairly young. she's been in politics all her. life is a young activist she was a leader of a youth movement. a post fascist party founded by a fascist, a member of the fascist party. she never had her appreciation to mussolini as a young politician. there hasn't been any politician as good as mussolini for the past 60 years essentially. he got a lot more than 50 years ago but she is not tone that down a little bit. recently, she said that her partner herself relegated fascism and a history. some of the believes are also concerned. she doesn't want migrants to return to the country. she's all these far-right ideas
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a concern the european union and allies abroad. >> certainly concerning as we continue to watch the election results in italy. thank you so much. that wraps up for me everybody. i will be in the chair this coming thursday and friday. also back next weekend on saturday and sunday 2 pm eastern. simone starts right now. >> greetings, you are watching simone. coming up this week it's the first hearing since july. we talk a congresswoman zoloft in about what they want the american city to know before the investigation wraps up. republicans release the midterm elections. the so-called commitment to america, president biden calls a threat to women. it's also just business as usual to the republican party and we are back with our culture critics today. we are launching the regroup for

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