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headquarters in new york. right now bracing for ian. the storm now a category one hurricane is rapidly intensifying and heading straight for cuba, then florida. all of florida is now under a state of emergency. some parts of the state now forecast to see upwards of 15 inches of rain. the looming threat is sparking long lines at grocery stores and gas stations. >> we got a lot of water, food. we got a lot of gasoline. >> we're trying to be ready. who knows? it may be real bad, maybe not bad at all. if it is, we want to make sure we're ready. >> we're live in tampa in moments where some people were just ordered to evacuate. plus, fresh drama ahead of the january 6th committee hearing. they are aware of a call between a january 6th rioter and the white house on the day of the capitol attack.
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what we're learning about that call. and the intensifying war of words between the u.s. and russia. top u.s. officials warning vladimir putin of catastrophic consequences just days after the russian leader issued a thinly veiled nuclear threat. all that playing out as outrage builds forcing hundreds of thousands of reservists into combat. the growing desperation leading to violence at an enlistment center. we begin with the threat from hurricane ian. we just got an update on its track and intensity. sam brock is in tampa, florida, and metrologist bill karins has a look at what we can expect. first to you, sam. i understand a mandatory evacuation is being called for the county where you are. what can you tell us? >> reporter: the threat is starting to feel a whole lot more real. right now for residents of this county in tampa, we're in tampa,
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hillsboro county is 1.5 million people. we found out that mandatory evacuations have been issued for portions of the county, zones "a," mandatory, zone "b" is voluntary right now. that's a pretty big chunk of residents generally along the coastline. there you go. all of that red, that's mandatory evacuations. i'm told from officials here that there are 26 miles of coastline just in tampa alone. the advice from hillsboro county, they're telling folks to move 25 miles inland. one of the fascinating aspects about all of this, i spoke with the mayor of tampa and they were taking a wait-and-see approach knowing that ian is going to be interacting with cuba and perhaps we would get more information about what its track might be. but they're taking no dangerous risks at this point. they're moving right ahead right now with evacuations.
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all of these big piles of sand, people have been out here since the early hours of the morning trying to protect their homes. take a listen. given the stakes, surprised to see how long the line is right now? >> it's shorter that be yesterday. i made this trip yesterday and couldn't wait in line. i'm worried that that sand is not enough for that line. >> reporter: so the resources is concerning? >> yes. >> reporter: okay, so they luckily did get their sand. as far as the other residents right now, this has been going on all morning long. less than once an hour, trucks have come in with sand. you see the frenzy behind me. we know as far as the state of florida is concerned, all 67 counties under emergency right now. ron desantis saying he's mobilized 2,500 national guardsmen. there are a million gallons of
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water ready to go to be deployed to disaster zones depending upon what happens over the next three or four days. >> we see the frenzy there behind sam. ian is getting closer to where you are. are people ready for what's coming? >> reporter: lindsay, we are now in havana, the capital. the storm is expected to hit from havana and the west part of the island. it's a category one but it's expected to hit cuba at a category three. we know that state media has reported that 24,000 people are already being evacuated. they expect those evacuations to expand to 50,000 people. it's a province west of havana. it's expected to get the worst of the storm. in total, that province has 200,000 people. it's a rural area with less resources available there than in places like havana. now we also know that the state says they expect damage to the infrastructure, so they're
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already moving trucks, special trucks, that are going to be necessary to make the repairs of the damage that that storm could cause in that part of the country. we also know that they've been distributing extra gas now and that part of the country, a lot of the people depend on gas tanks that have methane and that's how they cook, boil the water. the government has distributed more of those tanks as they prepare. when you look at cuba, this is a country with very limited resources, right? we see what's happening in florida. sam's reporting with people making these lines to buy everything they can. we don't have those stores in cuba. you don't have a store where you can buy all the water and all the food or supplies to protect your home. so people are basically buying a little bit of food which is all they can get. we've seen longer lines and a lot of the stores that do have food available, and whatever it is they have to protect their businesses or their stores, they're using, but, again, the resources are limited. finding a piece of plywood or metal to protect your property
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is difficult to find here and most of these evacuations that i mentioned, a lot of the preparations here are handled by the government. you've got the government doing what they can to put in these evacuations in order and you have some private businesses using the limited resources they have to protect their property. we've seen here in havana some of the gas stations close to the water are taking the pumps apart for the expectation of the water to rise. so these are all the preparations here in cuba, the hurricane expected to hit from the areas in havana and further west. that's going to be the worst-hit area. we expect the hurricane to touch havana -- or to touch cuba, that is, later this evening. >> we know that florida governor ron desantis is currently giving a press conference about the storm's path. we're monitoring and we'll bring you any details. bill, i was watching your report over the weekend and we had the u.s. model showing landfall in one area, the european showing another. any area in between potentially
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being affected. are the models clearer now with who exactly will be hit? >> we're getting there. it's slowly to beginning to narrow more and more and areas from -- i'm saying right now from sarasota, fort myers, through tampa, all -- and all of this is hard to picture how it won't be a billion dollar disaster. let's talk and see how strong they have it in this last update. it was 75. they have it up to 80 miles per hour. it continues to intensify. we had the report from havana right here. the storm is west of miami. even if the storm headed due north right now, it would head up towards florida. but it's going to take a bent here through western cuba. this part of cuba is flat,@not going to interrupt the storm much.
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it should intensify to a category four late tuesday or earl wednesday. there's going to be large waves, but it will not be a direct hit or a lot of damage in the keys. and then we got this forecast that includes the cone. as i mentioned, almost fort myers, all the way over to panama city. this red line is what the forecast is. it could really -- there's a forecast error built in. that's why we have this cone. we could see a landfall of sarasota or could have it up here towards the big bend and maybe a big wind storm up towards tallahassee. the one thing we do know is it's going to peak in intensify as we go throughout wednesday morning, and then it's going to start to weaken. the further off the coast it is, the better. then it will weaken more and more by the time it makes landfall. that's bad for people in the panhandle. that's better than having a major hurricane making landfall.
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very close to clear water beach area just on the west coast of florida. so concerns in our computer models. we're going to show you these. they've been split into two camps, one, sarasota, tampa here, that would be 4:00 a.m. thursday. it's a much earlier landfall if we get this turn to the northeast. but a lot of our other computer models don't think we're going to get that dramatic turn. they're going to drift it here northward. that's a big window from a landfall wednesday evening or friday morning, depending on the angle of approach to florida. so we do know that we have hurricane watches for the tampa area. we have tropical storm warnings that are now issued from naples south wards down to the keys. storm surge, this is a big problem with a storm approaching from the south, the wind is going to push the water northward. all of these bays like tampa bay here and heading towards fort myer, that water is going to
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pile up. the closer to the coast the storm is, the worse it's going to be. the worst-case scenario is a storm that's just off the coast because that wind rapidly piles up the water. so we'll see how this plays out. but that is the concern. the winds obviously tropical storms, power outages likely and the other thing, this storm moves very slowly as we go from wednesday, thursday, friday. it's going to weaken, but it's going to go so slowly that the rainfall amounts could be epic. florida has sandy soil but even the sandy soil eventually will get saturated and flooding will begin. we have areas that could get up to two feet of rain. again, when you get a major hurricane like this approaching land, you're going to have a multiple facets of issues and problems and we're about to see it happen here in florida, unfortunately. >> billion dollar weather event you said. thank you all so much. ron desantis is holding a
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briefing in florida as the state prepares for hurricane ian. let's listen in. >> there's going to be an interruption of power. just plan on that. understand that that will happen. even if the storm -- the eye of the storm doesn't hit your region, you're going to have really significant winds. it's going to knock over trees. it's going to cause interruptions and so that's just the name of the game. just be prepared for that. and then they have the resources in place where, of course, that's going to be a priority once it's safe to go in there and get as much power back on as quickly as possible. make sure that you have your plan in place, finish whatever preparations you have. this thing is coming this week and we know that and we know we're going to have some major impacts throughout the state of florida. we have at the department here for emergency management received 338 requests for assistance from local counties, 293 of those have already been fulfilled and others are on the way. we've deployed 210 medical professionals to hillsboro
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county special needs shelters and another 120 to surrounding counties. we have 300 ambulances supporting special needs evacuations in the tampa bay areas and hundreds of generators and pumps have been staged in the tampa bay area to prepare for the flooding we're anticipating. monitor your local weather service for updates, make sure you're commencing your storm preparations. visit floridadisaster.org/getaplan to see some of the things that may need to be done. for all of you new floridians who haven't been through one of these before, understand, remain calm, there's no need to panic. listen to the folks at the local level. listen to what they advice in terms of preparations, any evacuations. if you are going to be in your home when the power goes out and you have one of the generators, those generators must be operated outside the home. every year we tend to have people that operate it inside
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their home. you will get poisoning from carbon monoxide and we have fatalities from that. we've had more fatalities in recent storms from the use of the generators than we've had from the direct impact of the storm itself. just understand it's great to have a generator, obviously, we live in a very connected world, people want to have that power on and i understand that and i do too. but make sure it's used properly and that exhaust has got to be going outside your home. do not let that come inside your home. so we're continuing to work with communities at the local level. i've been able to speak with a number of the folks today. we're going to continue to work to support their plans. obviously, at this point, we want everyone to be safe. i know they say it may -- >> everybody, we have been listening to ron desantis giving a briefing on hurricane ian.
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go ahead and follow local guidelines and embark on their storm preps now. as this new hurricane gains strength, millions are dealing with the aftermath of fiona. in puerto rico, about half of the nearly 1.5 million power customers were still without electricity yesterday. that's a week after fiona made landfall. the island's department of health reports that at least 16 people have died because of the storm. in canada, officials say the destruction on the atlantic coast is worse than anything they've seen before. and it could take several months to regain -- restore critical infrastructure. homes were leveled because of rubble. fiona uprooted trees and power lines and one woman died after being swept out to sea. the canadian armed forces are being deployed to assist with the recovery efforts. violence in russia. a gunman with a swastika on his shirt kills more than a dozen
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people at a school. a man can be seen shooting inside of a military enlistment office as the country enlists more men for war. first, the january 6th committee's latest hearing 48 hours away. and new questions this morning surrounding that call from inside the white house with a rioter. what one committee member is saying. plus, if you've seen armageddon, you don't want to miss a thing of what's about to happen in space today. why nasa is about to slam a spacecraft into an asteroid. as. by treating my skin and joints. along with significantly clearer skin, skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year after two starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi, 90% clearer skin and less joint pain is possible.
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we're now two days out from the january 6th committee's first public hearing since the summer. and we're getting a striking new revelation from the panel's investigation. congressman jamie raskin confirms that the committee is aware of a call between the white house switchboard and a rioter during the attack on the capitol. according to records obtained by cnn, the call was placed in the
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late afternoon and lasted nine seconds. raskin confirmed the call after former congressman revealed it on cbs's 60 minutes. >> you get a real aha moment when you see that the white house switchboard had connect today a rioter's phone while it's happening. you get -- >> wait a minute, someone in the white house was calling one of the rioters while the riot was going on? >> on january 6th, absolutely. >> and you know who both ends of that call -- >> i only know one end of the call. i don't know the white house end. >> joining me now is ali vitali on capitol hill and a former federal prosecutor and legal affairs columnist for "politico." committee members are distancing themselves, somewhat from him. what can you tell us? >> reporter: while it is an aha moment to the public, it's clear
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that the committee and its members have been aware of this. raskin said it was one of thousands of revelations that they came across in their investigations and the committee is putting out this explanation too saying that rigleman himself had limited knowledge of the investigation and saying that he departed from the staff in april prior to our hearings and much of our most important investigative work. here's raskin explaining just a little bit more of what the committee already knows. listen. >> that's one of thousands of details that obviously the committee is aware of. i can't say anything specific about that particular call. but we're aware of it and we're aware of lots of contacts between people in the white house and different people that were involved obviously in the coup attempt. >> reporter: we've been through many, many of these hearings already this summer. this is not a group of lawmakers who tends to bury their leads.
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it is something that strikes me that if this is something that they had that they thought fit into the larger picture in an explosive fashion, it's something that we could have heard about during those series of hearings that happened over the summer. nonetheless, they are coming back this week for what is likely to be their last investigative hearing. we know they're likely to do hearings around the release of their interim report and the final report. both of those expected to come later in the year. but i'm told by my sources that this is likely the last hearing before election day. we know life happens fast around here on the january 6th committee. they very easily could pop something back up. but it's our expectation that we're at least done after wednesday through election day. >> and there are so many questions here about what the broader legal implications could be behind this detail, that the white house was potentially in contact with a rioter. what questions come up to you? >> well, i think what all of us are interested in is whether or not anyone inside the white
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house was coordinating or helping plan this attack and i think as ali mentioned, i think we went a little bit broader than this one call and look at the potential contacts not only between the white house and people inside the capitol, but of course people outside the white house who were involved in coordinating the -- people like rudy giuliani, some of the folks relate today the family and we want to look at the other groups that were involved in coordination of the attack. we're going to see a broad look and analysis of all the contacts between the various sources on january 6th. >> and i want to pose to you one of the similar questions i asked to ali. why would the committee want to put some distance between itself and riggleman? >> i think they probably think that he is suggesting conclusions that are not warranted by the evidence.
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it's very important that the committee have creditability. when i was a federal prosecutor and worked on high-profile case, i was always very careful. i knew if i overstated the evidence or if i misstated the evidence, that somebody in the defense would make a big point of that in the press. so i would always be very careful and measured about my comments and i think the january 6th committee is a mountain of evidence that they don't have to overstate anything. there's a lot here to take a look at. >> and ali, last question to you , we know the committee that be adept to presenting their evidence. they know who their audience is. they know how to get from point "a" to point "b." how could this factor at all into the hearing? >> reporter: look, there's potential that this could come up but it's not likely especially as the committee is trying to paint a picture
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continuing the storytelling. if you place it in the timeline, they took us from november 2020 and election day all the way through january 6th itself. it would really seem likely that as they come back this week, they're going to continue that story line out past january 6th. we know they've talked to other members of the cabinet during those waning weeks of the trump administration, people like mike pompeo, it's possible that we see that and they may have some things on the cutting room floor from other explosive witnesses. all of that likely to come on wednesday. >> thank you both so much. the clock is ticking yet again for the justice department in its probe of donald trump. the doj has until the end of today to produce copies of the documents it seized from mar-a-lago. it's the latest step in the ongoing legal back and forth since the department's august 8th search of the former
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president's former estate. breaking overnight, unrest in russia. more than a dozen people including children are killed in a school shooting. and a man opens fire at a military enlistment office as the uk defense ministry say russian men mobilized are starting to arrive at military bases. for the first time since world war ii and the fall of mussolini, italy will have a far-right government in place and it will be led by italy's first female prime minister. y i first female prime minister.
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this morning we're following breaking news out of russia. at least 15 people are dead including children and dozens more are injured after a gunman wearing a nazi symbol opened fire at a school. that's according to russian investigators. the school is about 600 miles east of moscow. investigators say the gunman died by suicide. priscilla thompson joins us with more. what more do we know about the victims? >> reporter: this happened at a school that serves grades 1 through 11. of the 15 killed, 11 of those were students. the rest were adults including
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teachers and security guards. there were also another two dozen that were injured. the vast majority of those students, no word yet on the severity of those injuries and whether or not officials expect the death toll to rise as a result of those injuries. now, as for the shooter, as you mentioned, he died by suicide. russian officials releasing a video showing the suspect after the shooting in a classroom that is very dishevelled wearing all black with a swastika very clearly printed on the black t-shirt that he was wearing. a spokesperson for the kremlin has called this an act of terror. they've also identified the suspect as a man in his early to mid-30s, someone who was a native of this town, graduated from this school and ultimately committed this heinous attack and they're still investigating,
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searching his residence to try to gain more information about a potential motive here. >> thank you. and then in a separate burst of violence in russia this morning, a gunman opened fire at a military enlistment office in eastern russia. tensions are boiling over across russia over president putin's call to send hundreds of thousands of reservists to the front lines of the war in ukraine. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken just announced another $457 million in assistance to the ukraine. this time for law enforcement and criminal justice. and the u.s. is sending a new warning to russia after putin's thinly veiled nuclear threat. earn mclaughlin is live from ukraine. also with me moscow bureau chief. i know there are things happening behind you as you speak. tell me what you're seeing on the ground. >> that's right, lindsay. in the last few minutes or so we
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heard the siren sound here in kharkiv, the second-largest city in ukraine. that siren was accompanied by the sound of explosions in the distance. we've heard from ukrainian officials that a rocket attack hit the city, striking civilian infrastructure as well as two homes killing a 15-year-old ukrainian child. it's hit really hard children across this country. we were in a zoom earlier this week surveying the damage. that town once occupied by russian soldiers, it was the subject of tense bombardment for six months. i could hear another explosion sounding in the distance behind me. in march we were -- we were surveying an apartment building
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that residents were telling us had been hit. the building collapsed and killed all 54 civilians in the basement, including two children. we were walking around the rubble. it was staggering to see -- also staggering to see just how many children are still left in the city, and with the latest news of the 15-year-old killed, the violence shows no sign of stopping. >> we want to make sure you and your crew are safe. anton, we know the russians continue to protest putin's mobilization effort and an intelligence update was tweeted out. they say the reservists lack training and preparation. what does mean for putin's war and drop in support? >> well, for now, you know, he announced this mobilization draft essentially of 300,000 people last week. the russian military clearly is short of manpower on the front line. western analysts say the russian military does need more people
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and so this was putin really taking a step that a lot of experts were saying he was going to need to take in order to continue to wage this war. but the problem is, yes, he needs to train these people. even before training them, he's got to get these people to actually come in and these are not reservists in sort of the american sense of the word, in terms of people who have regular training, these are civilians who served in the military at some point in their lives and it's going to be very hard to get all those people in a place where they can actually go and make a difference for russia's war effort. >> the "new york times" has a new report about growing attacks in ukraine by drones from iran. how much of a game changer could this be as russia tries to gain the upper hand in ukraine and also how successful has ukraine been in intercepting these drones? >> well, ukraine has been quite
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successful. and russia, you know, one of their problems that they've seen on their side of this campaign is a real lack of unmanned aircraft in particular. that's been a real shortfall and it's even been -- you see a lot in russia of supporters of the war, volunteers collecting donations to try to buy drones off the shelf, commercial drones, that would help russia in the surveillance aspect of it. obviously these iranian drones are armed drones. they do have the potential to provide the russian military something it hasn't so much had so far in terms of being able to strike targets from the air. but i think it's too soon to tell really how much of a game changer these are. >> anton, this weekend on "meet the press" jake sullivan gave a stark warning to russia on using nuclear weapons.
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let's listen. >> if russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences for russia. the united states will respond divisively. >> could nuclear weapons really be something that putin would actually consider using? >> so he has threatened it ever more explicitly and i think if you talk to analysts and officials in washington, you'll hear that the point at which they get most worried about nuclear use by vladimir putin would be in a situation where he's really losing the war and basically faces a choice between some kind of humiliating defeat and trying to turn the situation around by taking this incredibly dramatic and horrific step. so for now, if you ask the experts, it still feels very unlikely that putin would
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actually do such a thing. but the chance seems to be not zero. and i expect that we'll get even more of these threats in the days and weeks to come after russia, as we expect, annexes or tries to annex these territories of eastern and southern ukraine that it partially occupies. and that's something that could happen as soon as this week. >> any threat level that's not zero, as you mentioned, is worrisome. thank you both so much. italy is poised to have its first far-right leader since world war ii in what's expected to be a huge shake-up on the world stage. results from the country's election yesterday shows giorgia meloni's party winning the majority of seats in parliament. this would make meloni the country's first female prime minister. meloni who ran on a nationalist platform has advocated for naval
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blockades to stop migration from africa. turnout in this election was low, but it makes italy the latest european country after sweden to see the far right assume power. why what's happening across the pond with the british pound is having ripple effects here. plus the world's richest man deposed. elon musk will face questioning as he fights to get out of his $44 billion deal for twitter. [ sleep app ] and the end. you have now reached the end of the sleep app. you're the first person to actually do that. now i want to say congratulations, but it's also disappointing. what do you mean? that's it? i've got nothing left. hey if i were you, i'd try warm milk. enough out of you! hi!
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a bit of a rocky start on wall street this morning after the dow went tumbling. the dow is down about 161 points there. the turmoil comes as the british pound falls to a record low against the dollar. cnbc frank hollin is following this. what is happening? >> the fed saying it plans to continue hiking interest rates even if it leads to job losses and an economic slowdown and
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their fight against inflation continues to have a negative impact on the markets. what we were seeing earlier today were off those highs but we were seeing earlier today could have been called a sigh of relief rally, apple, microsoft, ibm, all a half a percent higher now. the nasdaq still in the green. you have to remember that the s&p 500 is hovering above its year low. and that tech-heavy nasdaq fell more than 5% due to pressure of rising rates and the stronger dollar. >> let's talk about that stronger dollar. in cnbc's reporting, there's a part that quote my attention, it can hurt the profits of global nationals. why is a strong dollar a bad thing in this case? >> let's talk about how strong the dollar is. it's risen more than 8.5% since
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july. that's a rapid rise historically. a stronger dollar reduces the spending power of consumers and companies and other countries and with fears of recession, it's testing the pricing power of u.s. companies. >> thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you. elon musk will face a grilling today from lawyers from twitter in an under oath deposition. he abruptly signaled he wanted to back out of his $44 million bid to buy the company over the summer. he accused the company of inflating its value saying it was rife with automated accounts. the case is set to go to trial in october. joining us right now is technology correspondent jacob ward. take us through what we know about this case and what twitter's lawyers are likely to ask him. >> you summarized it very well there. twitter did -- elon musk back in april announced his intention to acquire twitter and as of july
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decided for some reason he didn't want it. he announced that the deal was on hold and that is of course what has led to twitter filing this lawsuit that would force him to go through with the acquisition and that trial is set for october. this deposition that he faces today is the beginning of that. we will see many people deposed including twitter's founder, all sorts of people are going to come under the gun here. and we're -- really what's going to be so interesting is the ways in which elon musk's public machinations, the complaining he's done on twitter along with possibly whatever the twitter lawyers can get ahold of in terms of his internal communications inside tesla, various business communications, all of that could reveal all sorts of stuff about, for instance, one big thing that twitter has asserted was the possibility that musk may be trying to get inside its data to create a competitor. so we are just at the beginning of what is going to be an entire soap opera's worth of drama when it comes to the world's richest
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man and whether he's going to be forced to buy this thing. >> let's talk about the impact of the stocks. showers closed at $41.58, down for the year. how does that impact twitter's case? >> well, twitter certainly will be arguing that musk has hurt their share price, hurt their value. he agreed to buy this thing for $54.20 a share. as you mentioned, it closed at $41.58. twitter is not a stock that is rallying. it's down again today as a few minutes ago, about $41 a share. this is going to be part of twitter's case here they're going to say he has hurt us by dragging his feet. as many legal analysts opposite out, he agreed to buy it without looking inside of it. this may be for nothing if in the end in court it's proven that he has to buy this thing
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because he agreed to it. >> jake ward, thank you. scientists believe it's happened before and could happen again. an asteroid hitting earth. but nasa is launching a bold mission in hopes of one day potentially asserting a global disaster. it's pretty reminiscent of a hollywood plot. >> is this going to hit us? what kind of damage? >> damage? total, sir. it's what we call a global killer. ller to your routine. new science shows it gets in between teeth to destroy 5x more plaque above the gumline than floss. for a cleaner, healthier mouth. listerine. feel the whoa!
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they'll celebrate the braves championship. the presidents have traditionally welcomed sports teams to the white house to mark these kinds of things. this visit comes as the 2022 regular-season is coming to a close. playoffs are set to begin soon and the braves are going to kick off a three-game series with the nationals. sounds like a plot out of the great doomsday film, armageddon, which i still watch when it's on tv. if all goes as planned, nasa's latest mission will take on a
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collision course with an asteroid. just after 7:00 p.m. eastern tonight, nasa hopes to crash a spacecraft into an asteroid on purpose. it's about 500 feet across and poses zero threat to earth. about 7 million miles away, but nasa wants to use the asteroid to conduct the first ever test of a planetary defense system known as d.a.r.t. joining me now to discuss is the senior adviser to the intrepid museum here in new york. so, it's orbiting right now, a larger asteroid, this is going to happen at a really high speed and it's to try and alter it's direction. >> not trying to blow it up or anything. just seeing if they could knock it off its course a little bit. it orbits a largest asteroid, as you mentioned. if something's coming toward
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earth, if they can just alter its trajectory so in the case, whenever that happens, it's not going to happen for at least another couple of hundred year, but just knock it off its path. blowing it up is a bigger issue. i kind of like this idea. give it a little knock, get it out of the way so it will miss us. that's what they're going to try and demonstrate this evening. >> this spacecraft is about the size of a small car. it's going to deploy a small satellite that's going to take pictures. what's nasa looking for in those pictures? >> hopefully how much debris is created. as i just mentioned, if you create more objects, one of the smaller objects might come and cause trouble, too. so i think they want to see how it changes, what the impact is like. it's going to be about 15,000
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miles an hour, which is quite fast. so how much debris is kicked up, what happens to the spacecraft. then they'll look at changes from the orbit but that's more from telescopes. those images will be pretty cool. >> and this is just one of the planetary defense systems nasa's works on. what else do they have? >> another idea might be to put like a big detonation device in armageddon, something like that. blow it up. so i think that's another option that they'll look at, but this seems to be, i don't know if thest the simplest, but it's the one that i think would be a first choice if we had to do something like this. it doesn't create a secondary set of debris that might cause trouble later. >> got to ask you about artemis. had one launch day, it was scrapped. another, scrapped. now a third.
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how disappointing do you think this is for nasa? >> a bit disappointing, but also good to be cautious and it gives them more time to learn things and i think in the largest set of things, the bigger circumstances, space launches were always delayed. not always when you get to the pad ready to go, but that happens, too. i think they also realize this is the right thing to do. it's an opportunity to learn more. the rollback is more disappointing because of the weather, so it's like they can't win. they had a problem with sensor, fuelling, now the weather is not cooperating. i think the decision has been made to roll it back, which puts them even further along. six months from now, i don't think we're going to remember that much about this being delayed. i think we'll remember a good launch, not necessarily when it happens. but a bad experience, you'll remember that even more. so that's not a good thing. >> of course. thanks so much. >> thanks. >> that will do it for me this
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