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they discount a congressman and a staff members new book about a call from the white house to rioters during the insurrection. we'll look ahead to the midterms just six weeks from now and bring you an exclusive from nbc politics on which are the 25 key senate, house, and governors races that could determine the outcome for this year's contest and for 2024. and i'll be joined by former cia director, john brennan, to discuss the warning to putin of a catastrophic american response if he carries out his threat to go nuclear. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president biden has approved a federal emergency declaration that's postponing his trip to florida as hurricane ian strengthens. it is pushing northwest up towards florida's west coast where millions of residents from
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tampa to key west are preparing for hurricane force winds and destructive storm surge, but there's still a lot of volatility in predicting the exact path of the storm. bill, there are parts of florida that have not seen, tampa, for instance, this kind of weather event in a century. what are you seeing in the most recent update from the national hurricane center? however many models. >> there's a lot of them. tampa, it's been over 100 years. they've had fringe effects from irma and charlie, but direct impact, 100 years. a lot of people say it's overdue. ian, the latest, it has that classic look to it now. starting to expand in size. the center, you can start to see the bright red. these are the cloud tops of the thunderstorms right near the core of the storm where the highest winds are. right now, it's at 80 miles per hour. we think it's going to get up to a category 3, category 4 as the
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hurricane crosses western cuba then a category 4 just off the southwest florida coast. this would be early wednesday morning. so rapid intensification to this point. here's the wild card once we get it up here. how quickly does it weaken? because we think the upper level winds are going to get less favorable. if it goes to the left, it has more time to weaken and may arrive towards the big bend area as a category 1 or tropical storm. if it goes more towards tampa, it could still be a category 3, maybe even a major hurricane at landfall. hurricane center splitting the difference. there's hillsboro, pinellas, clear water beach to sarasota. one of our computers, these lines, 10:00 p.m. wednesday, some of them turn it towards the coast. we could have a landfall as
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early as midnight wednesday if it heads more to sarasota. no matter what, we're going to get a storm surge from this. if it's closer to the coast, we're going to get that storm surge 3 to 5 feet. 5 to 8, that's when we start getting significant damage. if it goes to the right or the left, this is going to be a slow moving storm, wednesday, thursday, friday. up to 15 inches of rain and even coastal sections of the carolinas could see 5 to 10 inches of rainfall. again, water kills the most people in any hurricane. it's not the wind. that's what we'll be watching this week. >> it's not the wind. it's the water fall. thank you, bill. so much to you and joining us now is sam brock in tampa where residents are preparing for ian's arrival. they are getting ready, taking this seriously.
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they ought to. >> they most certainly should. and the reality now is that the seriousness, the gravity of what we're looking at now has escalated just this morning as the track has inched closer now to tampa. 30 miles one way or the other makes a massive difference. 120 mile an hour versus 60 mile an hour is a massive difference. we know this, andrea. as of this morning, hillsboro county announced mandatory evacuations for their zone a. i know we have a picture of this map. it's all of the red on that map. zone a mandatory. b, which is some of the lighter colors also under a voluntary evacuation. collectively, 300,000 people just in that one area. to the north in hernando, voluntary evacuations.
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pinellas, right on the coast, areas like st. petersburg, they are carefully watching this situation. you would have to imagine the nearly million people in that county maybe looking at evacuations as soon as tonight depending upon the trajectory. i was talking to a geophysical hazards expert. what he's seeing now, $30 billion worth of damage should these conditions, this trajectory, maintain where it is. 120 mile an hour winds near st. petersburg, 10, 12, 14 feet of storm surge in tampa. the governor of the state telling people don't bank on a wobble. make sure you're prepared. here's the governor earlier today. >> folks should be prepared if you're in this region that there is going to be an interruption of power so just plan on that. understand that that will happen. even if the storm, the eye of the storm doesn't hit your region, you're going to have really significant winds.
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it's going to knock over trees. it's going to cause interruptions. that's just the name of the game. make sure you have your plan in place. finish whatever preparations you have. i mean, this thing is coming this week. >> reporter: and look, andrea, for anybody on the fence about this, one other key point to make is the speed of the storm. it's projected to move about 4 miles an hour on wednesday, thursday. human beings walk at 3 miles an hour. so basically at a human's walking place. it's not just the intensity of the winds, but also the duration. if you have 100 plus mile an hour winds and an extremely slow moving storm, a storm surge that could go well into the double digits. that is a nightmare scenario. >> we've seen before in previous storms and that's the real danger there. thank you so much. the january 6th committee is
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facing a storm, rhetorical storm, preparing for another big hearing this week in responding to allegations from a former committee staffer, denver riggleman. he left the committee in april and is now violating an agreement with the committee and publishing a book tomorrow about the investigation. riggleman telling 60 minutes -- >> you get a real a ha moment when you see that the white house switchboard connected to a rioter's phone when it's happening. >> wait a minute, someone in the white house was calling one to have rioters while it was going on? >> absolutely. >> and you know who both ends of that call? >> only one end. i don't know the white house end, which i believe is more important. >> ali joins me now for a reality check.
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what do we expect from the committee this week? the hearings, we'll be carrying them live here on msnbc. but how are they responding to these new statements from denver riggleman about that alleged call? because this did seem not so much an a ha moment as a book promotion moment. >> yeah, andrea, on wednesday, i'll be in my usual perch right outside the committee room ready to bring whatever is now and they promise they will have a lot of new revelations to show. each of the committee members parsing through what their part is going to be during this roughly two hour hearing, but pretty mum on the details. though they are going into it now with this revelation and the committee is making clear this is a person with limited knowledge of the work they were doing not only because of the short time he was working on the committee, but also given the time he left in april, which is well before those public summer hearings, but also before they got cooperation from key people like pat cipollone and others
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who became explosive witnesses in key pieces of the story that the january 6th committee has presented to the american public. this is how some of the committee members have been talking about it when asked about this specific piece of it. listen. >> this apparently says a call came from inside the white house. how hard have you guys tried to track down who it was? >> i can't say anything specific about that particular call, but we are aware of it. >> at another point in that interview, andrea, with chuck todd, raskin says this is just one of thousands of revelations that the committee is aware of. you and i both know how this committee works. the way that members think about what they're presenting to the public. this is a pretty big lead if it had led to something in the larger picture that this committee was painting. this is not a committee that regularly buries the lead so i have a feeling we would have heard about this if it was
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something that was in part of a larger puzzle here. never the less, speak as something they knew about. >> and made the point that they are careful about what they claim because they want to preserve their credibility, so if this were that significant, we would have heard about it. we heard strong comments from liz cheney during the texas tribune festival over the weekend. let's play some of that about what she would do if donald trump actually becomes the nominee. >> i certainly will, do whatever it takes. if he is the nominee, i won't be a republican. >> for her to say she won't be a republican is really remarkable. it shows how she's willing to stand up and take an incredible
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position of strength against donald trump. >> yeah. it also just shows how different this republican party is than the party that her father was a long time leader of and that cheney herself for many years in washington, was representative of the next wave of that. instead though what i saw from her when i was in austin is a woman creating in realtime the blueprint for how to try to save the republican party that she says she's still not willing to give up on, but also showing a willingness to campaign with democrats if they are running against election deniers. for example, in arizona's governor's race where katie hobbs is the democrat taking on carrie lake there. she's no longer shackle bid having to run in a primary. not that that shackled her in the first place, but she's very much charting a new path here. >> going to be a big week up there. >> oh, yeah. >> buckle your seat belts. right now, president biden is
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welcoming the atlanta braves to the east room of the white house to celebrate their 2021 world series championship. the braves beat the american league champions, the astros, four games to two as you may recall. let's listen. >> you know, this team has done it all. that's what this team does on the field, off the field, through the community service it gives back. channelling its reach and resources to feed the hungry, support our veterans, give kids a safe place to play and so much more. bring your people together inspiring us to do better by the power of your example. that sports, that's america and that's why i'm honored to host the 2021 braves who are here at the white house, fellas, congratulations. mr. chairman, the floor is yours. >> the braves. last year's world series champions.
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not quite october, but they were the boys of october 2021. and critical thinking. the midterm races which our first read teams from msnbc politics say you need to watch. this is "andrea mitchell reports," only on msnbc. is "anl reports," only on msnbc. al and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care provider about ways to lower your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. learn more at getrealaboutdiabetes.com before we begin, i'd like to thank our sponsor, liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. and by switching, you could even save $652. thank you, liberty mutual. now, contestants ready? go!
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a handful with resounding consequences. nbc news is highlighting 25 races with a biggest impact on congressional control, abortion rights and the 2024 presidential race. the list includes nine senate races, eight in the house and eight gubernatorial races. with me now, nbc news senior political editor and the master of all this, mark murray. co-chair of american bridge 21st century and former planned president, ashley parker, national political correspondent at "the washington post." former republican congressman, david jolly. first to you.
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major story line here is abortion and the abortion rights started with kansas. what we've seen in other states and some of those special elections. let's take a look at the democrats putting an all-time high advantage on this issue. latest nbc news poll. explain how that could factor into the races you're highlighting for control of congress. >> abortion ended up coming out, obviously has changed the entire midterm landscape. really energized democrats. democrats have a big advantage on abortion in our poll. we have six in ten voters who disagree with the supreme court decision overturning roe versus wade. so this has energized democrats. they feel like they have the voters on their side. of course when it comes to the governors races we're watching, abortion is an issue in which you have real effect. often, we focus so much on congressional control. who's going to control the house and senate. when it comes to these
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gubernatorial races, these are the ones where a governor in places like arizona, in michigan, in wisconsin, can have a huge impact. >> so, let's talk about arizona. because that, i mean, they have just approved a 100-year-old ban, total ban, instead of the 15-week ban that they had previously put in place. >> and it goes back before arizona even became a state. before the decision, obviously democrats saying kerry lake was the most likely nominee for this race. she now is the nominee. they were saying we're going to relitigate 2020. she's running against katie hobbs, the state's secretary of state. but with abortion now, it's not relitigating 2020. it's what would you do as governor of arizona and we're seeing katie hobbs and the
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democrats air advertisements going after the abortion decision, really putting lake on the defensive. arizona is a state where we saw the presidential contest decided by just about 10,000 votes in 2020. democrats are hoping the issue of abortion puts the republicans on the defensive. >> and richards, we've seen that abortion access and legality in states like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, largely coming down to which party wins these governors mansions. the judge issuing an opinion calling to reinstate a 158-law. how are advocates getting voters to the polls there? it relies on motivation and turnout. >> exactly. this is an issue that started when the dobbs decision came down, but the republican party
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and republican leadership keep making it worse. again, as you say in arizona, they just overturned, basically gone back 150 years to a full abortion ban. the state of michigan, as you know, there is a major initiative that is going to drive out turnout. then pennsylvania, which of course is always a state we watch. in pennsylvania, the surge in registration among women voters is enormous and when you look at who's registering to vote, they are registers 4-1 democratic advantage and many of these are young women. so i think the interesting thing about what's happened since the supreme court overturned roe is that two groups of voters are highly motivated now. women who don't always vote in midterm elections but are so upset about what's happened then of course a critical swing in
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independent women voters who can't believe that the republican party would return us to a day when government made decisions about pregnancy instead of women. >> in that pennsylvania race, it's mast ran o who says it should be a total ban, which goes beyond anything that pennsylvania has considered, but the republican legislature there has repeatedly put a ban on the ballot and that's been overturned, vetoed, but the democratic governor who is term limited. that race is really against josh shapiro, the democrat who is in favor of abortion rights. it's really a cutting edge race there. ashley, let's talk about the 552 midterm races that nbc news counts identifies 201 candidates as election deniers. 201 candidates. their wins could have wide impacts on 2024. on election denying and trying
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to overturn the electoral college counts. in 2024. >> that's right. and for republicans, which was a popular position that they felt, whether or not they believed it, that they felt they needed to take during a primary, where the threat was from the hard right base, from what president biden would call the ultra maga republicans where former president trump wanted to come in and play the role of kingmaker or spoiler. now that they're in a general, it's not so popular or quite so beneficial. so you see some of them tempering their language. sometimes scrubbing in some of the most incendiary statements and claims from their website, but early on, democrats in some cases in the primaries got
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involved on the republican side to try to booster the more extreme election denying candidate with the belief they would be easier to beat in november. that's often been the case. former senator mccaskill did that, but one of the things that makes a strategy risky is that this country has shown to put election deniers in high office. like they did with president trump. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out when the elections happen. >> and david jolly, as a former republican congress member in florida, the gubernatorial race makes the list of races to watch. a lot of talks this weekend about ron desantis, his robbery with greg abbott. they're competing who can bus more migrants north to blue states. "the washington post" about a rivalry between desantis and
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donald trump about 2024 ambitions. >> for the november race, the race is different. in florida, desantis is a strong incumbent with more financial resources than any other politician in the country. he is absent donald trump, the front-runner for the gop nomination. charlie crist needs a lot of that momentum to try to make him competitive. in many ways, desantis is already looking past crist, but we don't see the penalty for that. the question really comes down to this rivalry between desantis and donald trump should he actually be elected in november and the biggest committee is one of timing. because the one thing desantis has never done is actually challenge donald trump publicly.
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he was a mentee who followed trump. if donald trump announces he's running in '24 before desantis, he has to challenge him. >> a lot at stake. mark murray, thanks so much. check out first read today for all this and mark, we're going to get you to come back tomorrow to go through more of these races. six weeks to go. the u.s. and other allies promising a response if putin goes through on his thinly veiled nuclear threats. that's coming up next with john brennan. next with john brennan. nu. twelve irresistible new subs. the most epic sandwich roster ever created. ♪♪
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it's coming from the russians. meanwhile, pushback of the call of reservice when a man shot a military official at an enlistment center in even russia. this as lines back up of military aged men trying to reach the border to avoid being conscripted and several hundred thousand people were arrested in protest against the draft. all this unprecedented and as russian armed troops accompanying officials distributing bat lot boxes, the kremlin is trying to expand its borders. potentially hitting ukrainians against ukrainians after their losses on the battlefield. erin, in russian controlled territories in ukraine, we have these referendums that could ultimately pit ukrainians against each other in battle. what has been the response?
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>> reporter: hey, andrea. well, i've been speaking to former and current residents of kherson and they say it's already happening. they're hearing of men between the ages of 18 and 35 simply disappearing. they don't know where they went. relatives desperate to find out more information, but russian authorities in kherson not giving them anything, not telling them where their loved ones go and they're fearing the worst that they may already be fighting on the front lines. one former resident telling me when the russians moved into kherson in the early days of the war, they assumed control of the government buildings so they'll have access to all the information about potential ukrainian reservice living in the city. meanwhile, the men that are in kherson right now, i've been talking to one resident who's aware of many, are currently looking for hiding places. places to go in the event that
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russia annexes their home and forces the men on to the front lines. that is the terrifying reality that is happening on the ground right now. speaking to one resident who told me it's equivalent to a nuclear strike. that they are so incredibly scared about what could happen next for them. for months now, they've been hoping ukraine was going to be able to push through this news of the kherson offensive would be successful in retaking the city, but he described just despair as the months and weeks press on, life is unchanged and they're beginning to worry the ukrainians aren't coming for them. >> thank you so much. joining us now is john brennan, the former director of the central intelligence agency. also the author of undaunted, my fight against america's enemies at home and abroad. out in paper back tomorrow.
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it's a wonderful book, so highly recommend it. thank you for being with us. after the thinly veiled nuclear threats by putin, national security adviser jake sullivan said this on "meet the press" yesterday. >> let me say it plainly. if russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences for russia. the united states will respond decisively. >> let's talk about what the consequences could be. how is this all be communicated and what could be he be saying to putin and the kremlin? >> well, first of all, our national security has convened in response to talk about what the options might be in the event that putin decides to employ some type of tactical nuclear on the battlefield. but also, i think we're having high level discussions with our
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nato allies because they would have to also deal with the consequences of a nuclear use by russia. but i'm sure that the messages that are being conveyed, as jake said, have made it clear to the russians that there would be a highly consequential and catastrophic if they choose to go the nuclear route. i'm sure they're not giving clear signals about what it would involve, but difficult for me to believe it wouldn't involve some type of military action we would take against russia or russian troops. >> the president has been so clear that he wants to avoid anything that becomes nato versus russia. that he is trying to avoid for instance, zelenskyy going beyond the border you know, with nato, u.s. supplied weapons to contain this and not have what he's calling world war 3. how does that happen if putin
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were to go nuclear? >> if putin were to decide to go nuclear, it shows that he is then feeling that he is losing the war. it would be a desperate option because i do not think putin wants to tangle with the united states and nato forces which are far superior to russia, particularly in light of their poor performance. it would raise the stakes significantly across the globe, in fact, and i do believe that the countries that have been supporting russia to some extent so far such as china and india who have been recently expressing their concerns about what's happening in ukraine, would quickly condemn any type of russia nuclear use. so not just be the united states and nato allies that would be opposed to the strike. i think there would be international outrage directed against putin and russia but i
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do believe that the united states has already pulled together the key options that it will exercise and i do believe they will be decisive and they will make sure that russia understands that there is going to be no turning back from this. i do think that president biden has tried to go up to the edge, confrontation of russia, but not expanding the conflict. >> and president putin has just granted citizenship to edward snowden. so what is more dangerous? snowden a russian citizen or former president trump who says he can declassify by doing sort of an act the magnificent and think something is declassified. >> i think snowden who has been
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treacherous since he left the united states, i'm sure he has shared with the russians he knows about u.s. intelligence and donald trump continues to be in his own delusional world and his followers are more delusional than him believing the absurd things he says. even if he thinks about declass if iing something, that is a done deal. just absurd. just underscores how reckless he is an how irresponsible he has and how he never should have set foot in the white house and i hope we're never going to see a day like that again. >> what does it say about the war we're seeing such widespread protests now against the draft in russia? really unprecedented. >> it is. things are going badly for putin on multiple fronts. certainly on the battlefield as erin was pointing out. setback after setback in the russian military. and on the national scene as he is getting criticized by his partners, but also i think and
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most worrisome for him is it's going badly domestically. he had to know there was going to be this opposition to this partial mobilization and we've seen it now manifest itself in the streets of russia. we also see that the economic problems in russia are increasing as well. so i think putin is feeling increasingly cornered, which is a worrisome development because as a cornered rat, he may opt for taking steps that he would prefer to avoid, but if he sees his fortunes are dwindling and that of those around him, that's when we have to be very, very vigilant. >> can you imagine a scenario where putin using tactical nuclear weapons and we respond with nuclear weapons? >> well, i think putin has made some very bad miscalculations to date. going into ukraine the way he
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did and subsequent decisions. so i don't think we can take anything off the table at all. i hope that he's not going to opt for the nuclear weapons, but if he does, if it's some type of tactical weapon on the battle feed, i think u.s. and nato will respond decisively. how they're going to do that i will leave it to putin to have to guess on that one, but i certainly hope we're not going to see some type of nuclear exchange with russia. i do hope there will be sensible people including in the kremlin that will stop putin from doing something like that which will ensure the destruction of the current russian leadership. >> when you say within the kremlin, that is very telling intend because that is regime change. >> i think there are a lot of folks around putin who believe they are the same accountability bucket he is, but i'm hoping
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someone is going to see that russia is on a downward spiral and they need to stop this downward spiral before it does become catastrophic for them because that's the direction that it's heading right now. >> john brennan, thank you. and john brennan's book, undaunted, is out in paper back tomorrow. and delay tactics on trump's lawyers need to answer a critical question about the hundreds of classified documents found at mar-a-lago. if they can't. that's next. this is msnbc. that's next. this is msnbc. that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. the first time you made a sale online was also the first time you heard of a town named... dinosaur? we just got an order from a dinosaur, colorado. start an easy to build, powerful website for free
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22-year-old died in custody for violating the strict islamic dress code. the regime said she had a heart attack. the family said she had no preexisting condition but was brutally beaten for letting hair show out from her hajib. the remarkable protests have included women braving arrests and beating by cutting their hair in public and going out without head coverings. state television says at least 41 people have died. human rights groups put that number higher and according to the committee to protect journalestists, at least 18 have been arrested, many women. ali is one of the only western broadcast journalists in the capital. so what is the state of internet access now? the u.s. has been trying to provide greater access internationally to the internet. what are these protests show as far as the public sentiment in iraq? >> well, let me tell you, the
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internet still is not working throughout the country. i mean, it's essentially an internet blackout throughout the country and all the apps are now gone. so people can't communicate with one another and more importantly for authorities here, they can't upload videos of these rolling crackdowns that are going on across the country. that's very important for the protesters to get those images out and that's something we've seen over the last few days slow down. even text messages and phone calls are very difficult to make. but despite that, the outrage, the anger in this country, get
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harassed. they've pushed the head scarf as far back on their head as they can. ironically, was dressed conservatively by families of other women in the country to try to push the envelope. she really wasn't breaking the rules and that's also what sparked a lot more outrage amongst people that you know, this young woman that was on holiday from the kurdish region of iran, taking a walk in the park with her friends, that by
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the standards of islamic republic, was probably dressed okay, still got swept up by those morality police. >> thanks so much for all your reporting. and coming up, the latest on the special master and the classified documents found at mar-a-lago. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. g "andrea mitl reports" on msnbc. make your home totally you.
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the master in essence, to p shuttup. i'm going hoarse. raymond deary wants that lisbie the end of the week much here with us now, barbara mcquaid and "new york times" editor david 'em rich. certain srapbts of the damned, giant law firms, donald trump and the corruption of justice. bail me out so i can get a drink of water. >> it's so refreshing to finally
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see someone ask the hard questions in a forum where it matters. and truth matters in court. we know donald trump has made these allegations on social media that the fbi planted documents at mar-a-lago. and so what the judge has said is take a look at this inventory. here's a list of everything the fbi has taken out of mar-a-lago. i want you to point which documents on this list you claim were planted by the fbi. and i want that by friday. my guess is we are not going to see any documents identified. saying something on social media has no consequences. saying something that is false could bring disbarment, fines, criminal charges. so the judge is, as you said, it's time to put up or shut up. if you claim documents were planted by the fbi, i want to know which ones, and i want to know by friday. . >> david, in your new book, you write extensive live on the impact of trump stacking the court. the aid 6th received from white house counsel from jones, day
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lawyer don mcgahn, his white house counsel. you say, quote, while mcgahn was in the white house, there had been a saying among some republicans at jones, day. no vacancy left behind. it was a nod of course to how many conseratives mcgahn was imbedding. nbc news reports president biden is now actually seating judges at a faster clip than trump. so talk about the impact, though, of what you report of the conservative judges and was judge cannon, whose remarkable decision down in florida has been overturned by the 11th circuit, the three-judge panel, and has been criticized by lawyers and former prosecutors, you know, judges, retired judges by just about everyone for raising issues that hadn't even been brought up in court by the trump team. >> well, and i think that is the nightmare scenario that a lot of people are worried about, that don mcgahn, while he was in the
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white house, future jones, day lawyer, once in a generation remaking of the federal judiciary. it sounds like biden is also getting judges concerned. certainly not on the supreme court and i don't think to the extent trump was on the appellate courts. there will be judges who are not qualified or have an i.d. logical axe to grind. cannon came from another law firm, not jones, day. it was held up for a lot of rid dual frankly by anyone who has any legal background or training. and i think the concern is if there are other judges on the -- recently appoint on the federal bench who are similarly going to bend things to suit their i.d. logical allies, that is really troubling for the legitimacy and the credibility of the judicial system.
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that really undermines everything. >> cannon was confirmed by the senate after, you know, after the election in january. it was a lame duck appointment nomination and confirmation. this is the way the senate operates, by -- especially with mitch mcconnell. it was probably a tradeoff to get democrats through >> yeah. i think one of the things that mcgahn really did masterfully in the white house counsel's office, he worked not only with mitch mcconnell but senators from both parties as well. he had this extremely well-oiled machine in place devoted to remakingment judiciary in in a federal society mold. there were certainly some judges who got approved by democrats as well. i don't think anyone can dispute
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if you look at the changes taking place across the federal court system in this country that there has been a dramatic right ward turn. for better or worse. people on the right will think that's good. people on the left won't. but no disputing bad is the trajectory. we are seeing that not only with the supreme court but in district courts and appellate courts as well. we will see that a generation to come >> barb, can you clear up for something that came up on friday when trump lawyers went to court, the federal court here where a grand jury, january 6th grand jury was in session. apparently, according to the reporting, tried to stop two pence top aides, greg jacobs and marc short, from testifying. can they do that claiming executive privilege, stopping grand jury testimony? >> yeah, this is really interesting, andrea. we've got a court battle going on, but it's going on in secret because it pertains to grand jury testimony.
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they went to the chief judge in the district of columbia to block that testimony before the grand jury, exerting executive privilege. under united states versus nixon, there is clear precedent that says when a criminal investigation is occurring and a grand jury executive privilege is trumped. we'll see how that shakes out here. >> thanks to you. sorry to ask you a complicated question at the last second. we will follow up later this week. and the new book is "servants of the damned." thanks to both you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chris jansing reports starts right after this. s jansing repos right after this
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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now we are watching a natural disaster in the making down south where the entire state of florida is under a state of emergency. that's where hurricane ian is headed. though right now it is nearing the western tip of cuba. at this point it's a category 1 storm but could strengthen to a 3 or even a 4 before it hits later this week. we're going to have much more on that in just a minute. but, first, we are exactly 48 hours away from the next hearing from the january e6 committee. possibly the last hearing. but
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