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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now we are watching a natural disaster in the making down south where the entire state of florida is under a state of emergency. that's where hurricane ian is headed. though right now it is nearing the western tip of cuba. at this point it's a category 1 storm but could strengthen to a 3 or even a 4 before it hits later this week. we're going to have much more on that in just a minute. but, first, we are exactly 48 hours away from the next hearing from the january e6 committee. possibly the last hearing. but as one committee member
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hearing, the last of this nature. member have been tight lipped about the exact theme but suggest it will include brand-new information as they continue to fill in the pieces of the puzzle surrounding the insurrection. >> i think it will be potentially more sweeping than some of the other hearings. but it will be very thematic. it will tell the story about a key element of donald trump's plat to overturn the election. and the public will certainly learn things it hasn't seen before. but it will also understand information it already has in a different context by seeing how it relates to other elements of this plot. >> none of the members would go any further in terms of exactly what we will see on wednesday. one of the biggest unanswered questions for the committee is what happens after wednesday's hearing. both adam schiff and liz cheney said if they decide to issue criminal referrals, the vote would likely be unanimous.
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cheney also said she will keep pushing to hold election deniers accountable even after she leaves office. even to the point of working on behalf of democratic candidates if necessary. . >> so are you going to campaign for katie hobbs, the democratic candidate for governor as a result of that? . >> i will do everything i can to make sure carrie lake is not elected. [ applause ]. >> so -- does that include campaigning for democrats if that's what it takes? . >> yes. >> i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent ali vitale. and charles coleman a civil rights attorney, former prosecutor from brooklyn and msnbc legal analyst. so, ali, we heard a little from adam schiff describing wednesday's hearing. new information, new context. but do we have anymore information about what that information or that context might actually be? >> no.
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look, chris, they have been tight lipped both when they were down in austin where i was watching them talk with reporters about what this committee is going to look like going forward. but they have continued to promise there will be new information presented from old players we have seen at various points in these hearings. we know they are actively fact-finding as well. this has been the story of the january 6th committee the course of the last few months, chris. you and i talking about the way they are actively publicly storing telling and still behind the scenes, fact gathering. we know they were bringing in people, talking with key players like mike pompeo and others. still,s we know they are trying to get people in to talk to them. subpoenaing today, for example, a top republican in wisconsin targeted by trump. now, that subpoena may wind up tangled up in court. we know they are still waiting for the moment they are actually
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going to end up speaking with ginni thomas, wife of clarence thomas, and conservative active they just came in to have her come in and voluntarily testify. this committee is trying to press forward. i imagine one of the things we will hear later this week is r is how this is still a palpable threat, a threat trump gives to democracy. will they try to talk to trump and pence? and what will ginni thomas ultimately tell them. >> yeah. that's a lot of questions in a fairly short period of time. hugo, you had a great article yesterday. i want to read a little piece of it. the principal issues at play include whether there was a concrete through line to political operatives like roger stone and michael flynn, who were in close contact with the far right, dreamists groups that stormed congress.
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so that question about the link, the nature of the link has been at the heart of this from the beginning. do you think they have been saving that for the end, or they just still don't know the answer? where are we with that? >> yeah. i checked in with a couple of sources on the committee late last night. the consensus is they have made some seniority of breakthrough with respect to the kinds of thing that flynn, stone and bannon were doing in the roundabout of january 6th. they don't have anything connecting donald trump to the rioters per se but they have circumstantial evidence that they were all involved in various ways to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election. i think that's very significant. it will feature to some degree the hearing on wednesday where there is such a key issue. >> the big trial starts
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tomorrow. stewart rhodes and four co-defendants. do you think we could get more information about those who are part of this hearing? >> well, chris, i do think that is possible through the the course of the trials that something may emerge. in order for that to actually take place, we would likely have to hear those defendants take the stand. when you talk about that in the context of the style, one thing is guaranteed. i believe if prosecutors have that information they will do the best they can to elicit that on their own. they have a protection that allows them, by part of the constitution, to avoid that if they so choose. it will be difficult to elicit without their support or help. >> ali, i want to ask you about the phone call that's been getting a lot of buzz. it was revealed by denver riggleman who worked on the committee staff. he said during the january 6th
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insurrection, someone connected by phone to a rioter in the crowd. there's a lot we do not know, who placed it, what kind of authority it held. what do we know about it? >> we know that the committee is kind of throwing cold water on this. both members who were on the sunday shows over the weekend making clear they were aware of this phone call. in the words of jamie raskin, this is one of thousands that the committee has uncovered. they are seeing riggleman left but they had a lot of work left at that april point. but since his departure, the committee has run down all the leagues and digested and analyzed all the information that arose from his work, which is to say they went down the rabbit hole. this is a committee that often doesn't bury the lead. in fact, they are people who
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very much know where the news is. they present that front forward. they drive toward every single one of their conclusions without very much subtlety in all of these hearings. so the fact that this is not something we have heard about from the committee is important in the larger context. it's not to say this call isn't notable. but the way it is being presented as an aha moment, the committee, which presented many aha moments are throwing a bit of cold water on in terms of how important it is in the larger scheme of things. . >> history would kug suggest there will be more on wednesday. the doj is looking into january 6th. so what's the impact if the committee does issue criminal referrals? >> chris, i think what happens is you have the doj watching the hearings. they're getting the information the same time as the public. when you talk about it being
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made directly to the doj they are basically saying we have done the work for you. we have connected the dots, made the connections. all you have to do is basically file the indictment. it raises the stakes in a lot of ways. where the doj is only operating with the information that comes out of the committee in realtime as they're getting it, the committee, as we have been talking about, has a lot of information that hasn't necessarily been shared with the public before the committee has been ready to. when they are going through the step of making a criminal referral to the doj they are making it really clear that everything has been signed, sealed, delivered and wrapped up with a bow for the doj to move forward with potential indictments and prosecutions. so that's a much, much higher level of completion when you talk about in an investigation and the information needed to prosecute wrongdoing >> so that's possibly in the hugo more to come category.
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and i want to play what he said to chuck todd on "meet the press" about the future of the committee. >> our plan is to complete our report before the end of this congress. >> but not before the election? >> i don't know whether it will be done then. but our commitment is to get it done by the end of this congress. >> if democrats lose the house, do you send your investigative materials over to the judiciary committee and dick durbin? . >> well, we're going to make sure our investigative materials are made public and are available for the future. and we're going to preserve them. we're not going to allow them to be destroyed. >> well, let me put it this way, hugo. if there's a way to keep the work alive, are we at a point where the next couple of weeks are it. whatever the impact is going to have, it's going to happen probably before the new congress?
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>> i think that's probably right. look, i think what i got from the committee is wednesday will be the last of the investigative hearings. there might be a hearing or two surrounding the reports or the recommendations. they will file a report around the end of the year. that's definitely coming. this all winds down. the committee will be disbanded anyway regardless of who takes control of congress in january. and the justice department's investigations from a criminal perspective are far reaching. there's three investigations that we have counted so far based on the subpoenas that have gone out. one looking at rally organizers, people who stormed the capitol and one examining trump's inner circle with the fake elector scheme. doj is requesting the transcripts from the january 6th committee. when this wraps up it goes towards justice. that's where the next steps of the investigation are headed.
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>> hugo, ali, charles, thank you all very much. be sure to join msnbc for special coverage of the next january 6th hearing. it is wednesday, starting at noon eastern, on msnbc and peacock. coming up, a state of emergency in florida. right now, hurricane ian is barreling toward cuba. the latest forecast and how people in the storm's path are getting ready or getting out. tonight, this is so cool. nasa taking on a new first of its kind test. it could one day, i don't think we're exaggerating, save humanity. we'll explain. 'll explain. did you know luxury hair repair doesn't have to cost $50? this pro-vitamin formula repairs by building new bonds. for softness, and resilience. if you know... you know it's pantene. woman tc: my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. doctor tc: ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®. if you know...
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right now the path is so uncertain all of florida is under a state of emergency. governor ron desantis is warning outline floridians to be prepared and not underestimate the potential danger. >> folks should be prepared if you're in this region that there is going to be an interruption of power. so just plan on that. understand that that will happen. even if the storm, the eye of the storm doesn't hit your region, you will have really significant winds. it's going knock over trees. it's going cause interruptions. that's just the name of the game. >> right now ian is headed for western cuba moving 75 miles per hour, expected to make landfall in florida's gulf coast, putting floridians from tampa bay to the panhandle maybe in direct line of the storm as early as thursday morning.
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part of the county you're in now is under mandatory evacuation. what are you seeing where you are? >> reporter: yeah. this county hasn't just gotten a mandatory evacuation order along the coast of hillsboro avenue, zone a. officials say they did not make this decision lightly but they feel it is necessary to go ahead and make the decision now. they could have 300,000 people need to go evacuate from this area. next to zone a, people who live in this county, they are under a voluntary evacuation advisory. we are starting to see other counties along the western side of florida issue voluntary evacuation advisories for mandatory evacuation orders. we just got a mandatory order from another county, manatee county, and voluntary evacuation orders for another county, hernando county. the governor, local officials,
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everyone in particular is encouraging people to make sure they know what their zone is, go to florida disaster.org back slash know your zone. we have seen at this home depot people starting to come in with a bit more urgency this morning. there were 96 generates. not a single one is left. there were hundreds of gas canisters. they are gone. people are focusing on the potential for storm surge. it is giving people because. they say we're from florida. we are used to hurricanes. we are seeing more people come into the store or head into their cars and start to make their way out of the county. >> guad, what steps are people taking on the island to prepare for ian?
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. >> caress, well, it's very different here because the resources we have in the united states do not exist here. there's no stores where people can line up the way they do in the u.s. there is places to buy food. but they are rationed. subsidized stores. they will buy bread, eggs, basic necessities. the government has allowed more rations to be given out instead of the storm. and private markets where people will sell food items that are more expensive. people who have more money can go buy at these markets. that's what people can do individually. we know the storm is expected to hit the western part of the country, of the island. the largest city that will be hit by the hurricane. here in havana, we expect tropical storm conditions. we will be feeling the effects, winds, flooding, some of the rain. it is the west part that will get hit the hardest.
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in cuba, the military is in charge ofality of the alerts. they are also -- this is the civil defense group of the military. they are in charge of evacuating people. as of now, they will evacuate 50,000 people who live on the coast of the west part of the country. they are prepared to shut down the power grid at some point. now, in anticipation for the effects on the power grid, they are moving the few resources they have in cuba to that part of the island. infrastructure, materials, trucks. a lot of the food farmed in cuba comes from the western part of the island where the hurricane is going to be hitting. that's also the area with where a lot of tobacco was produced. these are the industries that
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are very vulnerable as the storm approaches the island, chris. . >> that all leads us to bill. >> this is not going to be our latest billion dollar hurricane disaster in this country, it's hard not to think that. ft. myers, sarasota, tampa, the biggest cities on the west coast. the storm is growing. we expect rapid intense fiction. we have that right now. don't be surprised if tomorrow morning you wake up and see major hurricane 3 ian. it could go to 4 the latter portions of tomorrow. you can see where key west is located. some of the clouds are expanding. the cloud sheer is from ian. this is the hurricane center at
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11:00. next advisory at 5:00 p.m. eastern time. they bring it to a category 4 off the southwest coast. with the 5:00 advisory, they have been inching it closer and closer. i think we will go a little further east, rpbl. that will continue with the cone and threat from ft. myers, sarasota, tampa, big bend area. forecast looking better the last 24 hours. there is always good. but then there's always problems too. some of the latest cuter models. i paused this at 8 p.m. the models move north. then they turn to southwest florida, like hurricane charlie in 2004. it was devastating near port st. lucie area. notice a couple lines north of tampa, south of sarasota. that's trending away from this
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area. one of the more reliable long-range models, last night had the storm out here at 8:00 p.m. thursday. the one that just came in, almost right over the top of pinellas. that shifted dramatically 100 miles. this would be a glancing blow. this would be a possible hurricane right into tampa bay. extreme wind damage, huge storm surge problems too. we will update when we get new tracks in. the storm surge looking 5 to 8 feet in the area south of the landfall. that's why they have the evacuations in zone a. they were the elevation of the houses. they know what people they need out of there now. >> it's always the water, obviously. thank you so much, bill karins. new poll numbers show republicans and democrats pretty much neck in&neck with americans split town the middle on who they want to control congress.
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new urgency for democrats trying to hold onto control of congress. right now a new "washington post" abc news poll shows 47% of registered voters would vote for a republican in their district. 46% would choose a democrat. so, the "washington post" paints that divide like this. heading into the final weeks of the midterm election campaign, republicans are holding sizable advantages on the economy, inflation and crime. democrats far more interested in abortion and climate change. also, president biden's approval rating down to 39%. 50% of democrats and democratic-leading independents say they want a new leader at the top of the ticket come 2024. i want to bring in research pollster and msnbc political analyst cornell belcher. we keep talking about this being a shift back.
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how do you read this poll? . >> no. i wouldn't see it as a shift back. as a pollster, i'm going to say this. i think sometimes we get too caught up in the poll numbers. and why do you say that, cornell? i say that because we are in campaign spending, you shall in this country, spending hundreds of millions of dollars to impact that polling number. that number is going to fluctuate back and forth. and that is going to depend a lot on what that pollster thinks the electorate will look like. there are so many x factors here. one we know is the massive increases in registration numbers particularly of women voters in battleground states, the likes of which we haven't seen before. if you look at the "washington post" poll and go back two polls ago, you know, republicans had a sizable advantage in the
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"washington post" poll. if you look at the wall street journal poll, you go back a couple of months in the wall street journal poll, republicans up six or seven points. democrats are up in that overall polling average, democrats are up two points. i think what you are seeing since the last six or seven months is a continual sort of shift in momentum away from the republicans towards the democrats. now, do democrats have an advantage? do they have a disadvantage? i will say that you clearly see in the polling right now, the republican wave that looked like it was building six or seven months ago is certainly not a big republican wave like we saw in 2010 anymore. we don't know exactly what that means right now because so many different dynamics. >> so if you're a democrat, and they come to you and they say, cornell, the president is willing to stump for me. and i'm thinking about florida. the president is not going now
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obviously because of the hurricane. but he was going to go out for charlie crist not val demings. what would you advise them to look at if they're trying to decide do i want the president of the united states to come and stump for me? . >> each campaign is different. and each campaign has to make that decision. although, if i step back from it, i think it's -- you can't run away from the president. look, i was someone who worked for barack obama. a lot of candidates didn't want barack obama to come in and stump for them because his ratings weren't that good during the midterm. at the same time, joe biden has a great story to tell. regardless of what a campaign may or may not want, i like to see the white house, president and vice president going out across america, telling the story of what they've done to get covid under control, bring
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back manufacturing -- >> his approval rating is the push back, 39%. >> yes. but the only way you improve that rating, chris, is for him to talk about what he's done. it's a tough place to be because approval rating is low. but yet you don't want him to go out and talk about the remarkable things that he and the vice president have done to steer this country in the right direction. ultimately, they will go out and talk about what they've done and not make some of the mistakes that, touchy subject, that some of us wish we had done better, and more so in 2010. >> so the midterms are playing off against this back drop. a growing if you have complaints about conservative groups searching for proof of fraud in
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former president trump's 2020 elections. >> reporter: spokane mom catherine says two visitors with an aggressive tone rang her doorbell earlier this year. they said they were there to make sure no one had voted fraudulently. . >> i feel insulted but also angry. i felt like we weren't being trusted. and we couldn't figure out why. what about us makes us suspicious voters? >> reporter: it came amid a door knocking effort by the research project. a conservative activist said he founded it last year to clean up the state's voter rolls. >> we have about 350 volunteers in the state. of the 39 counties, we have about 23 with doorbelling teams. >> reporter: the goal is to help local auditors in each washington county. some, like vicky, argue this isn't helpful.
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in fact, they have received complaints from residents about canvassers tactics >> one of the gentleman would flash a fakie metal badge. >> does it seem like these people were trying to imply they were affiliated with your office? . >> people were representing themselves as either doing this for the secretary of state or doing it for that particular county auditor's office. . >> a complaint stated a canvasser claimed everyone in the building needed to fill out a form or votes would retroactively be purged. as more counties reported complaints, secretary of state steve hobbs launched an outreach campaign to tell voters they don't need to answer canvasser questions. . >> no county auditor, secretary of state's office would ever go to your house to find out how you voted or if you're a voter. we would never do that. >> we received multiple reports
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some of the people that are canvassing are implying they are with the county or secretary of state's office. what's going on there? . >> i'm aware of three instances like that across the state. and some of them are repeats of the same story that are just circulating all the time. and every time we look down to it, there hasn't been any merit from the overall claim. >> when the group said it found almost 2,000 suspicious voter records in thurston county, auditor mary hall's team investigated. >> we went through every single record. >> any anomalies? >> not a single one. . >> out of. >> out of 19 31. >> a u.s. house oversight committee investigation for spreading disinformation and intimidating voters. >> this is part of a greater threat on our elections and very democracy. we saw what happened january 6th. what this does when you go door to door and put out a false
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narrative is you erode the narrative of the elections. >> they say they are worried about efforts ramping up around the midterms and what could happen in the aftermath especially if there are tight races. in a recent development in washington, about a week ago catherine received a letter from the research project thanking her for her participation in the first step to try to achieve cleaner voter rolls and claiming their report shows the rolls are not clean. catherine said it seemed like an attempt to make their harassment of her household seem legitimate. chris. . >> this is fascinating and disturbing retroactive purging is just one phrase i'm taking away from that, cornell. look, as a pollster, can this affect the polls? does this work? does it depress the vote? how do you view this? . >> well, you know, this is a
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tough call. look, if you keep making it harder for people to vote, eventually less people will vote. this is really about intimidation. i think, though, if i look at that report and what's happening there, it's going to backfire. what you are really doing is ticking off a lot of voters and making them angry and making them angry at this cult that is trying to intimidate them. i think ultimately it's going to backfire and motivate voters even more. and i think we will see a turnout in this upcoming 2022 midterm that looks a lot more like 2018 than it did 2010. i think that's problematic for the people who are trying to intimidate >> yeah. those are definitely the results that we're seeing in the polls, that more and more people are engaged, talking about voting. thank you for your fantastic reporting. we appreciate it.
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regents are holding controversial referendums on whether to vote for russia. that is being dubbed a sham. for safety reasons, election officials are taking ballots to people's homes and voting in person is only allowed on the last day, which is tomorrow. the "washington post" reports, quote, in a post on telegram, the mayor of the occupied city of melatopul said it was found during referendum voting and smaller fraction ultimately voted. i want to bring in clint watts and distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute. clint, it's good to see you. russia has not released any kind of motive for the shooting at the draft office. when you look at that, you look at the protests, the people either who have left the country, trying to flee the country. what does that all signal to you
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about the russian people's desperation and what it means for vladimir putin? >> chris, i think it's pretty straightforward. just looking at that reaction inside russia, whether it's the cars at the border or the shooting today, which would logically, you know, point to the fact that a lot of people are not excited about joining a fight they thought was going really well. i think this is the key point the last seven months. if you rewound to march and april, when russia is taking that severe of losses, there is no amount of disinformation over time that can carry that up. we saw that last week with this call for mobilization. just the body count they have taken is unsustainable. i don't understand putin's calculus to some degree. just throwing troops straight to the border, there are reports that people have gotten some equipment and been sent already to ukraine. that is not a fighting force.
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they cannot stack them into the line in such an organ way that would create any combat power against the ukrainians. even more, the regular reaction to russia when we find folks are going to the front lines will further confound the problem. >> and there is this. it's a miss stake to shrug off putin's threats. his threats in ukraine must be received soberly. leaders occasionally do what they say they'll do. there are reasons beyond that h. he has lost hardware, soldiers, ground and face. he is cornered and escalating, increasing the odds of mistake and miss calculation. how do we or how does the united states begin to calculate what is real, bluster and what he might do next? . >> chris, i say we have to take all the threats seriously
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because we just don't know. one thing that is key is russia is not a democracy. we're used to if the president doesn't perform well, there is a peaceful transition of power to another president in the case of a war that doesn't go well. you can see that in our history. that is not the case of russia. a war doesn't go well in russia, we are talking about a potential coup. someone trying to overtake putin. even though there is no direct evidence there are a lot of senior russian leaders in energy, finance, former military, that have suddenly died the last few months. when you look at that sort of instability for vladimir putin, nuclear weapons are more about just winning a battle or fighting the west but his own control. he can't take a loss. when you can't take a loss, all the options remain on the table. and in the nuclear context, this is not strategic nuclear war we
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are talking about. it is more likely tactical on the battlefield. they could strike a city inside ukraine, wipe out a large population. and the nuclear power plants are a second version of this sort of a problem to take as very serious threats. >> clint watts, always great to have you on the program. thank you, clint. in russia, officials say the death toll in a school shooting has list tone 15, 11 children and 4 adults. 22 others were hurt. a gunman wearing a swastika entered a school 600 miles east of moscow. the gunman, who committed suicide, had been a student at that school. and italy is set to have the first far right prime minister. the party just won the most votes in italy's national
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elections. according to the bbc, turnout in that election was a record low for italy. in iran, protests stretched to 46 cities and towns. some are cutting their hair. the protests and violent unrest started 10 days ago over the death of a 22-year-old woman who died three days after the morality police took her into custody for violating the country's strict dress code. she died from a pre-existing condition and had a heart attack, but her family denies that account. coming up, our next story may sound like a hollywood script, but it is not. why nasa plans to slam a spacecraft. o slam an spacecraft despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq.
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♪ ♪ this is what real food looks like fresh real meat and veggies. the food dogs where built to eat. the farmer's dog is changing the way we feed our pets. visit tryfarmersdog.com to see your dogs personalized meal plan. if this next story sounds like the plot of a movie, it kind of was, but this time, it's real. later today, in fact, in just a couple of hours, nasa will try to deliberately slam a spacecraft into an asteroid more than 6 million miles from earth. the first of its kinds mission will be a test run just in case
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one of those asteroids one day gets too close, and threatens the planet. nbc tom costello is following it for us, did i get that right, is that where we're faced with annihilation, we should probably figure out a way now to stop it before it happens? >> bingo. and if you need further evidence of how the structure of an asteroid could be, just ask the dinosaur, right? yes, they're all dead. that's the bottom line. they need to come up with a strategy to be able to deflect an asteroid that they think might be an earth killer, before it gets this close. and so this mission today is a test mission. this asteroid poses no risk to earth at all. it's about 7 million miles away. really, there's a tiny moon of an asteroid orbiting a bigger asteroid, if you will, so that's what is going on, that spacecraft crashing into the tiny moon, demorphous which orbits didymus, if it can be
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pushed off course, they will know they are successful and they want to use kinetic force, there is no weapon, no rocket, no nuclear weapon, they just want to nudge it. if they can nudge it far enough away from earth, maybe they can nudge a future asteroid that does pose a risk. so that is really what it's all about. we're going to get a live stream that nasa will share with all of us of the actual moment as the spacecraft dart approaches the big asteroid, or the smaller asteroid, rather, and we'll see, as it approaches, are they on track, have they calculated this perfectly, down to the nanosecond, and then it should go all white, as it impacts the asteroid. 7:14 p.m. eastern time is when they think they will have impact. it launched almost a year ago. >> this is so cool. 7:14. i will set my clock. almost out of time but will we know right away that it worked? >> i don't think so. we will know that they hit it, which is a big plus.
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imagine the math involved in that, hitting something that is moving 7 million miles away. but learning whether they nudged it off course will take some calculation, telescope kind of observations, multiple telescopes observing exactly the path that that asteroid is on and whether it just moved ever so slightly. but they don't know what this asteroid is made of. so they don't know what's going to happen when they hit it. will it just be a big thud, will it explode into debris and rock and dust? they don't know yet. so they'll find out. we'll all find out together and then they will be going over all of that data but they will be holding a news conference at 8:00 p.m. tonight, eastern time, to talk about how successful they think they were, and then the data will prove it up over the course of the next few days and weeks. >> just that we can watch along with them, what's happening millions of miles away blows my mind, tom costello, thank you very much for that. that will do it for us this hour. join us for chris jansing
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