the final hearing, just 42 days until this country's next election of what went wrong and what could still go wrong. on that subject, we've got a lot to talk about today including a scary yet plausible what if scenario by a long time "washington journal"ist alongside one of the foremost election experts and lawyers. stay tuned for that. but first, tomorrow's hearing, which begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern is expected to be quote sweeping and significant

according to the panel. beyond that, the only bit of evidence we are getting a preview of concerns roger stone, the long time trump ally who has a tattoo of richard nixon's face on his back. he was being followed by a documentary team on january 6th and the days leading up to it. nbc news obtained several clips including this one from four months before the election where he lays out a plan for donald trump to stay in the white house no matter what. >> what they're assuming is the election will be normal. it will not be normal. are these the california results? sorry, we're not accepting them. electors show up at the electoral college, armed guards will throw them out. i'm the president. [ bleep ] you. i'm challenging all of it and the judges we're going to are judges i appointed. let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it will be up in the air. when that happens, the key thing

to do is to claim victory. possession is nine tenth of the law. no we won't [ bleep ] you. sorry, you're wrong. >> the committee says it's gotten a lot of new information and documents from the secret service that does not include any new texts from january 6th, but nbc news is reporting leadership at the secret service confiscated the cell phones of 24 agents and handed them over to the dhs inspector general who was conducting a criminal investigation into the deleted messages. also today, a jury is being selected in the most significant trial of the january 6th rioters to date. the leader of the oath keepers is on trial for seditious conspiracy. a rarely used charge of conspireing to overthrow or destroy by force the u.s. government or to prevent, hinder, or delay the excuse of any u.s. law. the other big question that still hangs in the air is how much coordination the white

house had with folks like the oath keepers and other rioters on that day and on that subject, denver riggleman joins us. the committee has a new statement regarding his new book and claims of his as an a ha moment. again, just 42 days from our election. so joining me now from capitol hill is ali. there's a lot at stake, ali, and a lot of these threads are converging right now. talk to me about what we are going to see tomorrow. >> your introduction lays a ground work perfectly. just because they were not in the public eye, they were still fact finding, doing depositions, doing interviews, getting the agreement with ginni thomas for her to come talk with them. details for tomorrow at this point are still few. what i do know from my sources is that each member of the

committee is going to be taking a segment of the hearing tomorrow probably around two hours in length and that one of the things we are going to see that's new is news of roger stone. not the first time we've seen footage trying to take viewers behind the scenes and show people in realtime what the conversations were that were happening including these from stone which show he was thinking early on, before the election, that they were going to just say they won even regardless if they did or not. he said nothing could be considered credible or unedited and said if any members wish to wave their immunity, he would be happy to sue them. you and i have covered the trump orbit for a long time.

this sounds a lot like a usual roger stone response to something. but he's going to be one of the people the committee focuses on tomorrow. certainly in clips like this, a character in which they use to tell the story about what was happening around january 6th and the larger strategies undertaken by the trump orbit. >> is it going to be the last committee hearing? >> it depends on what you mean by some that that could be the last investigative hearing where they're teasing out new information, but my sources say while this is the last hearing we'll see until after election day, we also think that we should expect to see hearings around the release of these final reports. whether or not there's an interim report, that could have a hearing attashed to it. >> they're debating still about

subpoenaing former vice president, mike pence. i imagine if they subpoena him and he says yes, probably have to get to another hearing. >> you've got to imagine that's true. this is a group of lawmakers that have been very nimble. when a group of information comes up, they're willing to present it in most compelling way possible. the conversations around pence are so different than those around whether or not donald trump would come in. every member i've talked to about this is aware of the fact that donald trump is different than mike pence. especially when you have mike pence saying if he were subpoenaed, he would entertain talking to him and liz cheney said they are still having conversations with mike pence's counsel over whether or not he's going to come in. they've also still got to answer the question of what about those

republican lawmakers who come to work every day in this building and buck their subpoenas. >> denver, any date yet for ginni thomas? >> no date yet. just keep being told coming weeks. >> thank you very much. and denver riggleman is here. the author of the breach, getting a lot of play right now. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> so the committee released a new statement this morning about you. i'm going to read it for our viewers. in his role in the select committee staff, mr. riggleman had limited knowledge. he departed in april. the select committee is aware of the matters discussed with 60 minutes. they haven't gone ignored. the committee has aggressively pursued those leads and gathered additional facts, some which have proved relevant and not not. >> i think it means when you

have that much data, it's difficult. one of the examples when you talk about a white house phone call, they have to go to somebody who gives them the numbers. we know we couldn't get those white house extension numbers. all i want to know, who called the rioter. it's simple. once you do that, here's what happens. >> do you think the committee no knows? >> i do not. i believe they've probably tried to request the white house extension numbers, but i think it's difficult to get them after you have that lag in data. so you know, that's one of the things i'm talking about in this book, is how do you make data sexy. i think i did. but i also you know, when you talk about tiny pieces of data that are absolutely appropriate to go after, you have to have a lot of resources and a lot of materials to do it.

your network just did that. >> let me ask you about the rioter and the phone call. it's a nine-second phone call. unclear if it connected. any information on who this person was trying to reach or maybe misdialed? we don't know. had any other connection to anybody in the white house? has the back story of this person been filled in? >> you know, if i can find out, talking about the person called or the white house caller? >> the person that was called. >> rioter. he's already been charged. what you have to look at is the calls he had before and after, which i don't think have been looked at. it's almost impossible with the amount of work the committee had. the other thing you have to look at is what really helps me is at this point, i care about the phone call he received. i care more about the person making the call because then we can look at their call detail records. >> why do you think the committee, they have the ability to do that. it takes some time, but why do you think the committee is dismissing this? they're making it seem like this lead you're presenting in this book isn't that big of a deal.

>> i think sometimes when you have seven different entity, different teams working this problem, you have the churn of thousands of interviews. things can go missed. those fusion centers, try to talk about in the book is that we need to have a new way of looking at this as an information warfare problem and not more of a traditional investigation. you know, that's why i got excited yesterday. you know, when somebody's reading the book like ben collins, and he says oh, my gosh, kelly only had an attempted text. that's two bits of data. and a one to two-second hit. they call. oh, yeah, we sent the data train. andrew giuliani fell out. now we have a white house aide texting with an oath keeper charged with conspiracy. holy crap. those type of mistakes in data are critical. that's what i talk about in the boom. i want to committee to kick ass

tomorrow. >> you said you were impressed with the way things were. are you still confident they've been able to pursue these leads from what you've seen so far or do you think the committee is wanting in some way? >> i think when you look at the day the, the committee doesn't have the authorities necessary. that's what i talk about. this is not a, this is a public trust investigation. this isn't fbi or doj. >> why do you think they're upset with you for coming out with this? >> they didn't read the book and now when they do, i think this calms down. i've been in politics, right. and i get it. right. because you know, you have to try. and these are good people. they've done a great thing for america. so and by the way, i got 20 years experience doing this and a former co congressman, the committee's not a monolith. some people like me, some don't. i really don't give a rat's. the facts belong to americans. not me, not the committee. and if there's somebody calling

from the white house and the committee has tried to find out and nobody's giving them the data, it's on those sons of guns and that's what i've been trying to say. the committee's doing everything they can. >> do you worry that maybe you're undercutting them because the sense we get from the committee is that that is their worry. they've been so careful about what they've laid out. they want to be bulletproof because of what they're trying to do. >> they are bulletproof because what this book does and i just, i've been smiling about it a lot. what this book does, it baselines the data and why the committee's on the right track. i've said months ago we need another year, year and a half with the millions of lines of data to figure out the command and control and coordination. you actually need law enforcement authorities and the committee doesn't have that. >> do you think the fbi's doing this? >> if they need somebody really good at it, they need to call me. they need to call me now because we have -- i have the best call

detail records. >> so you haven't gotten any calls? >> no, but i'm sure they will. can i talk about roger stone really quick? >> of course. >> he's full of crap. data can't be manipulated or edited. people say it can. stone's in trouble. every time they open their mouth, they're lying and it had committee knows this and that's why we have the best data teams. i built them. they're still there. so that's why the committee's on to something here. you see the video, you match his day the, the stuff we found. he's in deep kimshi and that's why you see him screaming like a baby. >> at the end of the book, you talk about thomas and the texts she sent to mark meadows. she talks about the biden crime family, being arrested as she speaks, detained for ballot fraud and they're going to be living in barges off gitmo. that trump's allies were in a psychological war including her and she implored meadows to get

sidney powell to help her release. as ali said at the end of that interview, they're going to be talking to ginny thomas in the next weeks. >> we'll see if it happens. i think we're going to see more fear from people. that's what the committee has done and why they've been effective. you create this tidal wave, tsunami of fear. we need more time, money and more resources. if we can get there, i think we can start to engage in this information war that's much better. >> what are the questions to thomas. >> i have so many. when i first saw those texts, it was like somebody stuck a pencil in my eyeball. >> you thought it was a university of virginia professor. >> i did. we sort of knew, but you've got to validate it to 100%. the questions i would ask, why

where you forwarding a text from the chief of staff? are you working with congressional members? you say you have access with jared. how many other e-mails to the trump family or associates have you made? we know about the e-mails going to other states. oh, my goodness. might be following the navarre plan. >> you would ask if she's had conversations with her husband about it? >> absolutely, i would. >> and with the president of the united states, the former. end of the book, you say that there are a lot of accusations of cults for a lot of things, but that donald trump really is a cult leader. so you're saying that 30% of our population is in a cult. >> yeah. >> how do you break them free? >> i think it's something like this. when i said about data sexy or trying to write a book somebody picks up in an airport. we have to change 3 to 5% of the population. let if we're a facts based

nation, we have to let that grow. if we're worried about the money put behind this stuff, we have to have digital profits. i spell that with a p and and h. those are really what's destroying this country and the fabric of families and anybody who pushes this qanon nonsense or new world order or racism, they have to be stopped and we have to have our own digital soldiers to stop them. if people are expecting something against the committee, they're smoking some funky weed because this is actually note getting of baseline and facts and data that supports the weight of the committee going forward. if people don't like it, i just don't give a rat's ass. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i liked it when you said just

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morning. this is the scene of destruction. relentless winds, mass evacuations. close to 1 million people without power. also a lot of mangled homes and rising water levels of up to 14 feet along the western coast. florida is next. forecasters say it will make landfall near the city of venice on the gulf coast by tomorrow evening. flights in and out of there are being canceled. about 2.5 million people in florida are under evacuation orders. joining me now, bill karins. also on the ground, 25 miles west of cuba where ian landfall. what are you seeing? >> reporter: this morning when the worst of the storm had made its way through cuba, we started

driving from the capital, havana, trying to arrive where most of the storm, the category 3 winds hit. as we were on our way, we were not able to continue through the highway. there were trees just like this one blocking the lanes. the winds were too much for the vehicles to continue so we stopped at this. we were only able to get 25 miles away from havana and you can see the damage. trees everywhere. parts of metal from the structures falling apart. in fact, there is, the roof of a building. i'm going to move over to show you. a lot of these structures are old and they get repaired with pieces of metal. this building right over here, i'm going to point to it. you can see there's only a part left on the right hand side. all the roof that was from what you can see hanging towards the left, flew off as we were actually live earlier today. you can see neighbors that are now coming out as the worst of the wind came through. again, this is not where the category 3 went through.

this is the edge of the storm where they did get some wind. they did get some rain and this is the damage that it caused just to a small town. it's about 30,000 people here without power. like many other towns. you can imagine the devastation that has happened in the province that got hit the hardest. we know 64,000 people were evacuated by the military. we've heard structures are completely damaged. a lot of damage to the roofs of those buildings. also, that is the area where the tobacco industry is based in cuba. a lot of the famous cigars are made there and we already have reports a lot of these companies saying that the infrastructure to make the cigars in some cases has been completely destroyed. so that industry is definitely going the take a hit. so as we assess the damage to the western part of the country, here closer to the capital, this gives you an idea of what the edge of the storm costs. >> can you even get to those

harder hit areas? is there access? >> reporter: well, we couldn't get further than this. we made it 25 miles. the highway was covered in trees. we were going through parts that didn't have trees but at some point, the wind was too strong. we're still getting some wind so at the moment, we are not able to get further west. we don't know what the highway is like further down. we have been told there's areas you cannot drive through because of the large trees. i mean, every mile we were seeing maybe five to six large trees fall on the highway. so it's going to be very difficult. you can imagine for the military, for people that are going to try to get into these places in that area and specifically in the province of more than half a million people that got hit the hardest. this is a rural area. so you have a large city, the capital with about 140,000 people. but then the rest, they live in small towns. you've got to go through smaller roads. you can hear the wind by the

way. all these structures that have metal. pieces of metal, have been flying off and it's not as bad right now as you can see some neighbors are starting to come outside to see the damage. so going back to the transportation and the roads. we were driving through the highway. the main highway that goes west that has two, three lanes on each side and that highway had trees everywhere. we don't know what it's like in the more remote areas with smaller highways. we can imagine it's going to be very difficult to get into those areas. >> okay, bill karins. we're watching this storm. it's headed towards florida. there's a lot of concern about tampa because it is so low lying. it was already considered before this one of the most vulnerable areas in the world for a hurricane to hit and for flooding to destroy. what is the forecast look like right now? >> the forecast has a little bit of proof for tampa. it's gotten worse for sarasota,

ft. myers. still a category 3. we think it's going to go up to a category 4. it's got the classic, looks like a buzz saw. when they look like this, that's when you know we're possibly going to a category 4. with this shift of the track, more southerly in florida, there's less time for it to weaken. we're going to have landfall this time tomorrow possibly. rush to your preparations. get everything done immediately then get out of there if you're being told to do that in any of these areas. tampa, st. petersburg, especially sarasota, down to the venice area. captiva. then ft. myers, very low lying. tampa hasn't been directly hit in 100 years and you're going to get two major hurricanes in about 18 years. wild. this is 2:00 p.m. tomorrow. already landfall here. right around this is the bay

here. this is charlotte bay. port charlotte and we have ft. myers here. cape coral here. possibly landfall. if it's not there, maybe a little bit up the coast. a lot of our computers are hinting between sarasota and venice. that would be more like 7:00 p.m. a few of our computers have it headed toward the west. you're still going to get gusty winds, but the storm surge may blow out of that area instead of in. then the storm will slowly weaken thursday and into friday. still a strong tropical storm over orlando. right over disney world. we're going to have a storm surge of 4 to 6 feet in jacksonville and georgia because of this storm. now moving quicker across the peninsula and to the north. the worst case scenario if the landfall is sarasota, south of there is where we'll get the

worst. a lot of these homes are built on stilts. it's the onshore wind that piles up here south of whatever that landfall is. the wind may be blowing out of tampa bay. we may not have problems there. forecast improving, but it's gotten much worse for our friends from ft. myers to sarasota. >> that would be good for tampa, but not good for everybody else. the frightening but plausible scenarios that could pose a threat to the united states election system. america at a dangerous inflection point for democracy. the authors of the big truth are here. first up though, live to georgia where donald trump's former chief of staff is set to face questions about his role in efforts to overturn georgia's election results. overturn geor election results think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's...

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courthouse in atlanta is nbc's blaine alexander. so, what is mark meadows going to be asked? do we expect at least. >> reporter: several things. the d.a. has made it clear she wants to hear from meadows on three subjects. one, that now infamous phone call in which he was on the phone with former president trump where he asked brad raffensperger for enough votes to overturn the election. something the d.a. said she wants to ask him about. we also know she wants to ask him about a separate trip he made here to georgia where he showed up at a place in cobb county where a number of absentee ballots were being count and demanded to be part of that process. he was turned away because it wasn't open to the public. she's also made it very clear he is quote, uniquely qualified. has unique knowledge of not only those incidents, but the

conversations and events that led up to them. she's told me she wants to hear from anybody who has incite into the former president's mindset, his actions around any sort of possible efforts to overturn the election so we know that she's going to press him on that as well. what's notable about this is that when mark meadows testifies, this is a grand jury proceeding, it's all secret. so we don't know if he did appear, but it means he would be the highest or closest person in the trump inner circle to have been known to be asked to appear before the grand jury. >> blaine alexander in atlanta, thank you very much. we are 42 days until our democracy faces its next big test and it is not hyperbole to say we're in a bit of a scary moment. the book, the big truth, goes over three janua what did not happen in 2017. what did happen in 2021. and what could happen in 2023.

and we're going to begin with that 2023 what if. the cautionary tale about a possible and avoidable american unraveling. authors major garrett and david becker start this tale 42 days from now on election day in texas. an open carry state where millions believe voter fraud is rampant and where poll watchers have authority to move around, question procedures and exercise authority. in their story, an argument, a gun shot and the death of a poll worker lead to the cleaving of the country. from nancy pelosi refusing to seat the texas delegation because of an election tainted by violence and suppression to texas and other sympathetic states bordering themselves off from the federal government. it's the beginning of a modern day civil war. this is fiction, but that could change. joining me now are the authors, major garrett, chief washington correspondent for cbs news and david becker, executive director and founder of the center for

election research. nice to have you when you write a book and i get to steal you from another network for a few minutes. major, you start off talking about january. january 2017 is the january after the 2016 election. 2021, the january after the 2020 election when the insurrection happened. and then you look ahead to what might happen after this midterm election in '23. if you can tell me in a concise way because i know it goes on for many pages, what could happen come january '23? >> our overarching argument in the book is that this election denialism, which is baseless, the 2020 election wasn't stolen. wasn't an act of fraud. millions of americans voted. the election was secure and verified. so any lie about that is creating combustible forces in american society. and those combustible forces, we argue, with not tameable. they will continue to run and

fester in unpredictable and ultimately destructive ways and we paint a scenario. it's all fiction. and it's not a prediction. but what could happen in a highly pressurized state like texas and you outlined what we say might happen. those pressures in the national political bloodstream are mounting and we could see ourselves becoming more and more separate from one another over questions of election legitimacy when there's no basis for those questions in the first place. it is a place we are heading toward. we don't have to be there and that's why we wrote the book. >> so looking back to january 2021, these pressures started to mount because donald trump went on a campaign against the election. saying that it was fraudulent and filing lawsuits that didn't go anywhere because they were never arguing fraud, but never theless, going after our systems and the january 6th committee has been laying them out piece

by piece for months. they're going to do so again tomorrow. but david, tell me, because you're got so much experiences. tell me in this, tell me about what happened in 2017 and how it laid the groundwork for what you're worried about today? >> well, back in 2016, we saw then candidate trump, of course, precede the environment with voters that the election was going to be rigged. after he won the election, he won legitimately, he still said some things, but he's been on a campaign to delegitimize elections for some time. in 2020, we saw him do that in advance of the election. delegitimizing things like mail ballots, but the facts of the 2020 election are one of the greatest triumphs of american democracy. we saw more paper ballots than ever before. more audits. more clarification, most by the republican party than ever

before. and more court review of the election after the election than ever before, confirming the results. yet despite the fact this election wasn't particularly close, we saw an endless campaign now going on about 700 days to delegitimize that election. the lie that seriously disappointed supporters of the former president. once you believe an election is stolen, that can justify pretty despicable hate like we saw on january 6th. >> it was pretty close in 2016, major. that election that we covered together. much closer than it was in 2020. and at that time, there were reasons for the democrats and for hillary clinton to be a little bit, i don't know if i want to go so far as to say unsure, but to have some questions about the election given the russia interference, the comey stuff. everything that was happening. but there was a peaceful transfer of power in 2017. >> yes, you and i remember the moment when hillary clinton, democratic nominee, called

president-elect trump to let him know she was conceding. about 2:35, 2:37 in the morning after the election. that set in motion a peaceful transfer of power. we write in the second chapter, an alternate history. what would you think if president trump and those around him has been attempted by the obama justice department or the hillary clinton campaign. would you be comfortable in that america? the answer of course is no. why? because it's wrong then just as it's wrong now. and we wrote the book from that perspective to try to persuade people this is dangerous fire we're playing with. election denialism cannot be a tactic in american politics because when it becomes a tactic, we will have both sides eventually denying elections only because they lost. that does not continue the american or democratic experiment. it extinguishes it. >> david, is it hyperbole to say we're close to that?

>> i don't know how close we are to it. as major said, this isn't a prediction. we're pretty careful about that. but it is a possible path given right now that tens of millions of americans think that any election which they're candidate doesn't win has been stolen. and how easily it could spread to others and how difficult it is to keep that genie in the bottle. once you believe it's been conspired, it would take hundreds to do this then not talk about it. which isn't going to happen. once you believe that, everything is off the table. for the first time in 2020, we had a losing presidential candidate who said the rule of law is not the end of this. i am going to use the tools of political violence and division to go further. we didn't see that in 2000 with gore. we didn't see it in 1960 with vice president nixon. this was the first time we've

seen this in modern american history. >> you do lay out some ways to fix this. sort of begin to fix it at the end of the book, which i appreciate. always nice to have some hope at the end. i'll put up on the screen, but major, there are steps that can be taken by the u.s. government to ensure the strength of our democracy and our system. i'll give you the last word. >> sure. protect election workers. make it a crime to threaten violence against people doing the fundamental work. give them the resources they need to conduct elections that work well for voters as they come in. by whatever means and clarify the electoral count act. congress is working on that now. that would do a great deal to strengthen the foundations of this beautiful, magnificent thing we call the american democratic experiment. >> major, david, thank you very much for coming on. the book is called the big truth.

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families will save $2,400 on health care premiums. energy costs, down an average of $1,800 a year for families. and it's paid for by making the biggest corporations pay what they owe. president biden's bill doesn't fix everything, but it will save your family money. the results are trickling in for the stage managed referendums across russian occupied regions of ukraine. russia is reporting a victory of absurd margins claiming an average of 97% of residents have voted in favor of annexation. this outcome is not a surprise. the supposed referendum has been slammed by ukraine and its allies as sham and violence of international law. any minute now, the u.n. security council will hold a scheduled meeting on ukraine.

the u.s. and albania are scheduled to introduce a. >> referee: referendum. the uproar continues on the ground in russia. look at that. those are thousands of people who are trying to flee the partial mobilization order. miles and miles and miles of cars headed for the border. those that are staying are either heading off to fight on the battlefield or joining protests on the street. joining me now from central ukraine is jay gray. tell us what you can about these referendum. >> reporter: you know, using the word vote is a very loose interpretation of that word. i don't think any of us thought we'd have steve kornacki out here with a big board breaking this down. but you're right. these numbers from russian officials and proxy leaders at the kremlin are 15% of the vote

in over 97% approval of a one-question ballot that basically said do you want to succeed from ukraine. there's two boxes like you pass to someone you were fancy on in elementary school. check yes, check no. and when you've got russian soldiers armed delivering these ballots, you've got to think this is the way it's going to go. we've heard from people inside these areas who say they were driven by fear. concern lists were being made for those who did vote no. the decision is likely made. it won't become official until friday and we know that as it stands right now, putin is scheduled to make an address to the nation on friday. there's also a huge rally scheduled as well. so that's likely when they'll put the stamp on what so many have called not a free and fair

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japan bid farewell to its longest serving leader today amid public opposition to the cost of the elaborate ceremony. we have the details. >> reporter: japan held a state funeral for shinzo abe, japan's longest serving prime minister who was shot dead in july. this is the first time in 55 years that japan has hosted a state funeral and there was a lot of controversy surrounding it, highlighting that abe was just as divisive in death as he was in life. there have been protests, inclouding many today, which called into question of the necessity of spending $11.5 billion on a state funeral, but it was also a time of mourning. particularly for the 4300 dignitaries that attended, including kamala harris.

it also highlighted the many flash points that could erupt at any time politically in this region. those tensions are set to increase when the u.s. vice president visits the dmz, demilitarized zone separating north and south korea on thursday. just days before her visit, north korea test fired a missile. the 19th time it has done so this year. who wasn't in attendance was also important. although abe has met putin 30 times when he was prime minister, no senior official from the russian government was present. in fact, japan slapped fresh sanctions against russia just recently. also, there have been tensions surrounding taiwan and china. i think japan and many of the u.s. allies here in the region want more clarity on what exactly u.s. president joe biden meant when he said that he would defend taiwan in case of an attack. so through the gun salute, moment of silence and prayer,

there was a very palpable sense of the political tension in the region. back to you. >> thank you very much. that is going to do it for me today. i'll be back tomorrow with hallie jackson and andrea mitchell for our coverage of the hearing that starts at 12:00 tomorrow. hallie jackson picks it up from here. see you later. picks it up from here see you later. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older with

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