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take on some water, but we can kind of bail fast enough to be okay. eight years would be a problem. i would be concerned about a sustained period in which some of these norms have broken down and started to corrode. i actually disagree with obama. i think four years was more than enough. that does it for me. you can catch me on the katie phang show on msnbc and stream new original episodes on the msnbc on peacock as well. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. i think i have lost everything i own. and i'm trying to be brave and know that my family and i are safe. >> it's basically just we have to count whatever money we have and whatever anyone is willing to help us with and see where we can go from here. because there's no moving back into that.
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>> this is all we had. >> we lost everything. we're with not one single thing. >> everything gone. tens of thousands of floridians will sleep in shelters tonight following the devastation of hurricane ian, which has now made landfall in south carolina. also tonight, putin's illegal annexation. he's unhinged, and he's dangerous. so how should the world respond? >> plus, the supreme court welcomes justice ketanji brown jackson ahead of what is expected to be another perilous term. >> it's about damn time we have a discussion about the right-wing freakout over lizzo and james madison's crystal flute. we begin tonight with hurricane ian. once again making landfall. this time on the coast of south carolina as a category 1 hurricane, the first to strike the state since 2016. the storm now a post tropical
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cyclone is expected to move across the carolinas tonight into tomorrow morning. the national hurricane center is warning of life-threatening storm surge and severe flooding. just take a look at the scene in pawleys island. it comes after ian devastated several areas in florida. leaving at least 21 people dead, thousands without a home, and more than 1.5 million people still without power. today, president biden said the damage there is likely to rank among the worst in the nation's history, as communities are still reeling. >> i stayed here as long as i could, until i got scared for my life and went across the street. the three little pigs, they built them out of block. mine is built out of sticks. it didn't last too long when the big bad wolf came along. i literally watched my house disappear with everything in it. right before my eyes.
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>> at least 700 rescues have taken place so far. take a look at this dramatic coast guard video of helicopters air lifting people and pets from sanibel island. the president spoke on these efforts today. >> he said, mr. president, we will not rest at night until we know they're safe and sound. he talked about how they rescued a 94-year-old woman who had the courage to be hoisted up onto a helicopter, the wind blowing, and as well as a 1-month-old baby. >> meanwhile in orlando, water levels are still so high, people are using boats to get from place to place. earlier, our nbc news team spotted an alligator swimming down the streets of a neighborhood. msnbc anchor ali velshi is on the ground in hard-hit ft. myers beach, florida. i know ft. myers beach has been hit among the hardest in the state. so give me a sense of what you're hearing and what you're seeing. >> it's bad.
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joy, as you know, i was in naples. we talked while i was there. naples got sort of better built structures in many cases than some of the areas in ft. myers beach, and it didn't have the wind effects. we had 112-mile-per-hour gusts there, here 150-mile-per-hour winds. the damage, this was a place that was a charter fishing operation, a bait shop, a retail shop, where i'm standing, all of the stuff was over me. this was a restaurant. you can see the bathrooms up there. that was an airbnb with two apartments. that was the office for the whole operation. i saw the owner up there a little while ago. i asked him what he was doing. he said i'm looking for my safe. i don't know if it's under here, whether it's blown across, whether somebody stole it. sanibel island is not far from here, but we went for a little drive, and i was looking at a devastating mobile home park. it looks like this. the mobile homes have been destroyed but i came upon a bunch of shrimpers, people who
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live on boats and go out for shrimp. they often stay on their boats during hurricanes. they lash them together and try to live out the hurricane. a lot of boats were destroyed. they moved from boat to boat. there was a guy in a wheelchair and they helped him get from one boat. now they're all on dry ground, their boats are on dry ground, too, which is not where they're supposed to be. look at these boats. these were all in this marina here. they're now all on the road, and these shrimpers are saying they don't have power, don't have cell signal, they aren't that familiar with the internet. nobody has seen them except reporters. they need i.d. in order to make claims but their i.d. went down with the boats. they don't have toilets, they don't have water, and they don't know where to go. that's literally one area with about 50 people that i just ran into because i was looking for damage. so we're trying to figure out how do these people get the help they need? there was a guy, in fact he said to me, i know everybody is
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worried about sanibel island. i have no beef with that. those people came by their money honestly. i would be lucky to make $20,000 a year. if somebody could bring us maybe a portable toilet and a generator, that's all we ask for. so that's one place that's less than a mile from where i am. and that's the story there. there are stories like this all through florida right now, joy. >> real quick, before i let you go. do you have a sense the people who have been -- who lived in those crushed houses and buildings, where are they going? where are they sleeping? >> some of them have gone to shelters. there's no other choice. it does not seem widespread that they understand that is an option. there are still people milling about. and we're not quite sure, but they don't know. they don't know where they're supposed to go to register for insurance if they have it or payments or fema. there's a lot that's missing in terms of information to the people who have been hardest hit. >> wow. ali velshi, look forward to watching your continuing coverage this weekend, my friend. thank you very much. really appreciate you. thank you. >> joining me now on the phone
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is commissioner rick lucastro from collier county, florida, which includes naples. we were talking about your city briefly before we started talking with ali velshi about the ft. myers area. we saw the early stages of what was going on in naples. what is the situation as of now? >> the biggest thing in our district was the catastrophic storm surge. it was naples, marco island is also participate of my district. these are small coastal communities. it wasn't so much the winds but the storm surge was horrific. i will tell you, yesterday i spent the day driving around my entire district, helping people and getting an assessment of the damage, and the water damage is incredibly severe. ali talking about there are some people who don't know where to go. i can tell you, i spent most of today, i'm standing still in our gigantic emergency operations center, the main headquarters here for the whole county, but it's in my district. hundreds of people in here from
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utilities, sheriffs, we have representatives here from hospitals. and i'm former military, retired colonel. i can tell you this is a large-scale military-like operation, as we tried to head things in the right direction. today, i'm really encouraged. we have about half of the power, half of our people in collier county have power, which is actually a pretty big number because 95% of the people in lynn county just north of us still don't have power. and we're working aggressively to get the word out to people as to where they can go, shelters, and other places. we have lot of not for profits that have reached out. truthfully, i will tell you, the communities i drove through yesterday, yeah, i saw and even helped people carry their furniture, totally soaked after six or seven feet of storm surge, out of their homes. but there were less people than you would think because we are a
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very seasonal community. there are a lot of people up north whose homes have been damaged beyond repair that don't even know it yet or maybe they got a few pictures from a neighbor. we also have people that did evacuate. so they aren't here. so it was -- there were less citizens that i saw that were sort of digging out than you would think because a lot of people did either leave or they're not here. so like i just sent out my commissioner newsletter, i have 40,000 subscribers. there are people who have email capability because they're sending me tons of email asking for help and direction and what not, so that's helping to get the word out. we have teams that were out in though communities today passing out information on everything from where they can go, how their debris is going to be picked up, how they can contact fema. so there's a lot going on, and it's a huge mobilized operation. and lee county was hit even more
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severely, but there's a lot going on. >> indeed, a lot going on. quite an understatement. we're wishing you well and looking at those pictures of your community right now. collier county commissioner rick lucastro, thank you very much. >> let's bring in rob gaudea, the director of the cajun navy foundation. explain to us what your foundation does. it's a fascinating story and what are you guys doing now? >> we are a disaster response organization. we are, i would say, a new era of disaster response. we utilize technology and social media to in a way crowdsource disasters. we specifically, what we do is rescue. the kanjen navy, there coin was turned in hurricane katrina. it really grew again in 2016 with baton rouge flooding. but we respond to disasters across the country. search and rescue, we also, you see behind me what we call safe
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camp. it's an installation for food, water, supplies. it's that safe place that when people are confused and struggling and we see this every disaster, every disaster we see this, people are lost. it's a safe place to come, get food and water. and then we actually stay in communities for extended periods of time, with volunteers and paid staff to help them out in whatever way we can. the holidays are coming, christmas, thanksgiving. and we'll do gift drives. we really seek to help stabilize people's hearts and minds. that makes them able to deal with the chaos we're showing on the screen right now. >> and how do people get in touch with you, if somebody is in need and tare freaking out and just wondering what to do and thinking, maybe i can get in touch with your organization, how do they do that? >> yeah, absolutely. look, there's our website is an obvious place, gocajun's navy
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navy.org and our facebook page is quite active. there are several cajun navy people who use the name. ours is a kaleidoscope of colors because we help everyone. and with the fleur-de-lis in the middle of it. look for that cajun navy page and join us on it. and we're in ft. myers right now, with just safe camp set up and serving the public here. >> they need it. thank you so much. the cajun navy, god bless you for what you're doing. >> let's bring in fiona donovan, director of relief operations for world central kitchen. you heard some of what folks were saying there between what the cajun navy is doing, what we heard from ali velshi, what we heard from the commissioner. people are scared, and people are bereft of their belongings. but also, people need immediate things like food. what are you guys doing toward that end? >> world central kitchen has
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been on the ground since monday, and we have been serving meals yesterday and today to communities that have been just devastated by hurricane ian. the degree of loss right now is immense, and people are in need of life-saving food, water, and so we have set up public meal distribution sites in ft. myers and all along the coast where folks can come and pick up a hot meal, sandwich, get some water, and you know, have a sense of community in times like this when families have experienced such loss, it really helps to come together and what better way to do that than around a hot plate of food? so we're here to serve for as long as needed. >> and i'll ask you the same question. how do people access your services? you guys are obviously dropping in, and how do you function? because you are dropping in to communities where your workers are also experiencing the same lack of resources, electricity, et cetera, as the people you're
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serving. how do you even get this done? >> we have set up a field kitchen in tampa, so we have been cooking here and bringing our food in. we have also been working with food trucks all around the florida area to come in and set up and cook and serve meals to folks. and so there's so much need out there, we are still discovering where can we be of the most support? where can we offer our food and our resources? and we're learning as we go, but we have posted on our instagram, on twitter, where our public distribution sites are set up and anyone who is in need of food who hasn't been able to access those resources can reach out to us and we'll do our best to get in touch with you and point you in the right direction. >> a lot of people know world central kitchen from the global hero, and all of you are heroes for what you do, so thank you for what you do to serve your fellow man. it's wonderful. fiona donovan of world central
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kitchen, cheers. >> up next on "the reidout," the sickening new phase of putin's invasion in neighboring ukraine. the illegal annexation of their land. how will the world respond? "the reidout" continues after this. ♪♪ here goes nothing. hey greg. um...hello? it's me, your heart! really? yes! recording an ekg in 30 seconds. tada! wow that was fast! good news, pal. i'm not detecting any of the six most common arrhythmias. what next? let's get some fresh air. been cooped up for too long. yeah... ♪♪ get kardia mobile card at kardia.com or amazon.
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zaporizhzhia, to be russian territory. >> people have made a choice. and it's a definitive choice. this is the only path to peace. we will protect our land using all our forces. and we will do everything to insure people's security. >> his illegal announcement comes days after russian backed separatist organized a sham referendum. they didn't mention how they got the results, which included sending russian troops door to door with guns, demanding a vote to join russia or else. putin and his forces have suffered humiliating defeats on the battlefield. it happened again today as president zelenskyy announced the retaking of more territory in the east. in lieu of any tangible victories, the former kgb officer has ratcheted up his verbal attacks on the united states and increased his threats of nuclear war, using
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apocalyptic religious language to condemn had it west. he did it again while hosting a choreographed annexation rally in red square. they bombed a humanitarian convoy in zaporizhzhia, murdering 30 and murdering 88 women, men, and children. president zelenskyy announced his country would make an accelerated bid to join nato. >> translator: the entire territory of our country will be liberated from this enemy. the enemy not only of ukraine but of life itself, of humanity, law, and truth. russia already knows this. it feels our power. >> leaders across europe and around the world rejected putin's illegitimate claims and warned about the dangerous escalation the annexation represented. president biden had his own warnings for putin. >> we're fully prepared to defend, i want to say this
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again, america's fully prepared with our nato allies to defend every single inch of nato territory. every single inch. so mr. putin, don't misunderstand what i'm saying. every inch. >> the biden administration has already announced new sanctions against any individual or entity that provides support for russian annexation efforts. joining me is former u.s. ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul. i'm so glad you're here, ambassador mcfaul. what is to be done? this man does not seem to be stable. he's going around talking about the anglo-saxons blew up the nord stream pipeline, holding a pep rally with these, you know, phony leaders that were elected in these stolen territories and snatching territory and saying it's russia. what can the world do about this? >> first, joy, this is an incredibly tragic, sad, and scary day. i think it will go down in history as one of the worst days
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in europe since world war ii. annexation of territory the size of portugal, and now he's saying he's going to defend it by any means necessary. this is a gentleman who controls nuclear weapons. and therefore it's scary day. a hard day for western leaders. president biden and his allies and partners to make decisions, but the obvious is to stay the course. more weapons. better weapons, more sanctions, better sanctions. help president zelenskyy return sovereignty to his country. he has pledged to do so. i think we need to help him. >> now, zelenskyy has been very clear he would like ukraine to join nato. of course, if they were in nato, then these stolen territories would be nato territory and that would be world war iii. the question is does this land grab make it harder for ukraine to join nato? does it push it back even further? what does nato do, because if russia would take this, they'll gobble more.
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>> it does make it harder for ukraine to join nato. you're absolutely right. there are other members of nato that won't want ukraine to join because it would mean going to war with russia. because of article 5. that said, this is not a moment to debate whether ukraine should join nato or not. i thought it was brilliant by president zelenskyy to talk about it today. he continues to push the narrative. i think it was smart to do that. what we need to do now is help ukraine win. they're not asking for our soldiers now. but they are asking for our weapons. they are asking for increased sanctions. mr. zelenskyy is calling for the west, for instance, to declare russia to be a state sponsor of terrorism. he wants us to up the antti, both on weapons and sanctions, and i think all leaders around the world need to think about that. putin upped the ante. he's upped the ante. we need to respond in a commensurate way. >> let me play you something "the new york times" got hold of, audio of russian soldiers
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calling home to friends, family, et cetera, complaining about the mission, talking about war crimes even some of them committed and calling putin an idiot. take a listen. >> for those of us listening to this on sirius xm, he said we're losing this war, i'm quitting the f'ing army, putin is an idiot. that's a summary. is putin getting weaker at home? he does seem increasingly desperate. >> first of all, fantastic reporting from "the new york times." i have listened to lots of those, incredible that we have that out in the public domain, and i hope some of that gets back to russia. second, yes. putin promised russians that
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there wasn't going to be a war. he called it a special military operation. it wasn't supposed to affect their lives. then sanctions happened. he didn't expect. then he had to call on this mobilization, this partial mobilization of 300,000 men. and i think he's probably mobilized more men to leave russia than to join his army. so yes, he has a circus on red square tonight and all of his people applauding politely, although they weren't very enthusiastic. i listened to that speech. but this is now a deeper thing in russian society, and i think if it goes on long, and i think it will, he's going to have trouble keeping people in support of his barbaric, senseless war. >> let's talk a little bit about something you tweeted about, an a.i. attack, something that is probably going to be the norm for a lot of folks who upset certain, you know, barbaric countries. and talk about this. just explain it. explain what happened.
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>> so for several weeks now, somebody, and i want to be clear, i don't know who this person is. i don't have access to intelligence. but somebody with that number has been calling very senior ukrainian officials and former officials and trying to get on zoom calls with them. sometimes successfully, and they look like me and they sound like me, speaking russian with an accent. so yeah, this is a deep fake. they're trying -- they're asking questions that would be to try to create tension between the biden administration and the zelenskyy team. those are the kinds of questions they're recording. and finally today, it happened one more time. so i just wanted to warn the world. that's not me. >> sunlight is the best disinfectant. i'm glad we had you tonight so you could talk about that and hopefully everyone will get this clip and send it out and make sure people understand deep fakes are real. we're living in a new frightening era. stay safe. thank you very much. >> still ahead, u.s. senate
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prop 27 sends 90% of profits to out-of-state corporations in places like new york and boston. no wonder it's so popular... out there. yeah! i can't believe those idiots are going to fall for this. 90%! hey mark, did you know california is sending us all their money? suckers. -those idiots! [ laughter ] imagine that, a whole state made up of suckers. vote no on 27. it's a terrible deal for california. we win. you lose. wisconsin republican senator ron johnson is known for veying a lot of off the wall things. especially with respect to the coronavirus and the january 6th attack on our capitol.
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>> by the way, standard gargle, mouthwash, has been proven to kill the coronavirus. the fact of the matter is, this didn't seem like an armed insurrection to me. >> on january 6th, i never felt threatened because i didn't. >> had the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been a little concerned. >> he's a senator. now, of course, it's fitting that johnson would downplay the events of that day. the house january 6th committee has since revealed he was essentially the bagman in the effort to push a slate of fake electors on former vice president mike pence. johnson addressed that this week in an interview with nbc's affiliate in wisconsin. >> i had no involvement. i received three texts and i sent two or the other way around. my lack of involvement was seconds worth of texting. >> that's still involvement.
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>> i was -- i was texted, something had to be delivered to the vice president. i didn't know what it was. >> maybe he was too biggy gargling the mouthwash. now, the tea party senator who plotted to overturn the 2020 election is running for re-election with the midterms less than six weeks away. ron johnson is staying true to the kind of comments we have come to know him for. back in may before the dobbs decision, johnson said overturning roe v. wade might be messy but not that big of a change. abortion wasn't go away. so much for that. we're coming up on 100 days since the theocrats on the court rimmed away 50 years of reproductive rights. as for the other rights on the chopping block, he's also content to reverse progress. he would oppose a bill to codify same sex marriage protections after he originally said he had no reason to oppose it. joining me is johnson's democratic opponent in this close senate race, wisconsin lieutenant governor mandela barnes.
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giving all i have said, one would think this race wouldn't be that competitive. because this tea party senator has shown himself to be a really odd man. and yet, the polls show that not only is this race razor thin, in some polls he's ahead. what's going on in wisconsin? >> well, i tell you, we have seen an unprecedented amount of dark money coming into this race. they're lying to this track of his failed record. he's a person who says all kinds of wacky things, but the reality is what he's doing in washington is no joke. he's seing out the people of wisconsin left and right. he's putting women's lives at risk with his dangerous positions on aborg. he's too extreme for wisconsin but there's a whole lot of money that wants to keep him in office to continue to take us backwards. we're running a real grassroots campaign despite the fact we're being mashively outsend. some of the most ridiculous ads
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you have ever seen. >> you're both state-wide elected officials. people have elected you both state-wide. it's not that it's not possible for a democrat to win here, but when ron johnson said i'm fully supportive of what the supreme court did, confirming the justices who handed down the decision, his definitiveness, it seems like it would be more helpful, because you have seen abortion, whether it's in kansas or upstate new york, be very powerful in motivating women voters. are you seeing that at all on the ground yourself? >> i tell you, here are the facts and the reality. ron johnson celebrated the dobbs decision. he said that if women didn't like the 1849 criminal abortion ban we have in the state, they could just move. that is the worst position you could ever take. it's so callous, but people are responding in kind. i have seen an energy like i have never seen in the state. a lot of folks who have never been active in politics stepping
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up, showing up to rallies asking how they can get involved and engaged. we're getting ready to kick off our ron against roe tour because he needs to answer to the people for his dangerous positions on abortion, and like i mentioned before, we are getting massively outspent. folks can go to mandelabarnes.com today to help us out. it would go a long way to expand the majority to codify abortion access. >> the attacks on you yourself, just to be clear, this is a state that ron johnson won 52/47. he beat russ feingold twice in 2010 and 2016. just above 50% of the vote both times. he's not a super, super popular senator, but he's pretty much ensconced but he's attacking you now, despite the fact he opposed ending medicare and other things about yourself, tweeting liberal things. i guess you like aoc. you called her my president.
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saying progressives who move to the center are compromising their integrity. that counts now as a scandal for you and it's actually, i suppose, hurting you with wisconsin voters. why do you suppose that is, and what is your response to that? >> that's not even the reality. ron johnson is going to say whatever to distract from his failed record. we had an opportunity to have 1,000 good paying jobs in wisconsin and they decided they wanted to move their jobs to south carolina, he said we have enough jobs here. when we had an opportunity to improve people's quality of life every step of the way, ron johnson has been adamantly opposed to it. he tried to send fake electors. we're talking about a guy who tried to overturn an election. if he wants to compare that to tweets t shows how wildly disconnected he is from reality. ron johnson can't be trusted to protect people here in wisconsin, especially women. he can't be trusted to protect american democracy, because, you know, it's just not his thing. and he's proven it over and over
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again. >> and then i guess my final question to you would be, are you concerned that wisconsin is a state that has become so anti-progressive that just identifying you as progressive and identifying you with past positions that are progressive will be enough to keep ron johnson in office? >> i tell you, we have senator tammy baldwin, the first openly gay member of the u.s. senate elected, and i tell you another thing, too. as i travel wisconsin, this isn't about labeled. not about left or right, red or blue. this is the people at the top because of senators like ron johnson, ron johnson specifically and everybody else left behind by his poliies over two years in the u.s. senate, his biggest achievement was a tax plan that he orchestrated $215 million in tax deductions for two of his biggest donors at the same time he voted to repeal the affordable care act. now he's coming after social security and medicare. he's compromising people's retirement security. ron johnson has doubled his own
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wealth and is hell bent on making everybody else's life worse. >> we'll be watching, mandela barnes, thank you for your time. >> who won the week is still ahead. >> first, justice ketanji brown jackson is welcomed to her seat on the supreme court as they begin a new term that is loaded with incredibly important cases. ♪ hit it!♪ ♪it takes two to make a thing go right♪ ♪it takes two to make it outta sight♪ ♪one, two, get loose now! it takes two to make a-♪ get double rewards points this fall. book now at bestwestern.com. ♪ ♪
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today, news from the supreme court that we actually welcomed. the supreme court hosted a formal investture ceremony for justice ketanji brown jackson, the first black woman to serve on the court, here she is descending the supreme court steps with chief justice john roberts. she's been a member of the court since june, meaning today was purely a formality, but it's a historic moment reflecting the promise of america with president biden and vice president harris in attendance. justice jackson is joining a court packed with conservative justices for whom ending abortion rights is only the beginning. the court's new term begins monday with justices taking up cases involving gerrymandering, afilmative action, and election law. as the threats to democracy and freedoms loom, there's been another pro-trump ruling in the mar-a-lago documents case. u.s. district judge aileen cannon, a trump appointee, who is overseeing his challenge to the fbi's seizure of documents belonging to the government, says trump is not required to back up his claims of planted
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evidence, essentially negating the ruling of the special master that she appointed at the trump team's request. joining me now is errin haines, editor at large of the 19th, and melissa murray, law professor and former law clerk to judge sonia sotomayor. >> justice ketanji brown jackson, what it means for the country and the court. >> yeah, well, it's like you said -- first of all, shout out to anybody who knew what investture was before this week. i had to look it up because i'm not a legal expermanent, as melissa is, but yeah, that ceremony was today. like you said, she already took the sworn oath back in june, but i really think for people who do recognize what a historic moment this is, there are not enough moments featuring justice ketanji brown jackson that the american people will not be following along with, and today was another one. so she officially took her history making seat on the far right end of the bench, and i mean that literally, not
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idealogically, and yes, monday she's going to hear her first case, as we may hear her weighing in for the first time. they are cases that are conskwengsing for our society, for our democracy. dealing with the environment, dealing with voting rights. you do now have four women on the supreme court, and obviously, as you mentioned, she's the first black woman to serve on the high court. >> there she is with her college sweetheart and husband. melissa, is it bittersweet for you as someone who clerked for sonia sotomayor, to have these three women, they essentially likely will be spending a lot of their time arguing in the minority for the protection of rights that are maybe slipping away? >> joy, it is a transformative moment. obviously, this is an historic appointment, but as you say, it comes at a time when not only is the court hobbled by claims of illegitimacy, it's likely justice jackson's power is going to be limited by the fact she's
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part of a three-justice minority. this is a liberal wing that is entirely composed of women, i think reflecting that the party that nominated them is really the party that has emphasized and tried to support the idea of a multiracial democracy, even in the face of the other side of the court's efforts to make that more difficult. >> and how bad is it going to get, melissa? i'm looking at some of the cases that are coming up. two cases of race conscious admissions at harvard. i'm wondering if ketanji brown jackson will wind up recusing because she has ethics and morals. you have a case about whether businesses can deny services to same-sex weddings. a case of legality giving native american families priority in adopting native american children. how bad should we expect this to get? there's a alabama's discriminatory map. what should we be bracing for? >> bucklep, butter cup. this is going to be as
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consequential as last term. there may not be a case like dobbs that overruled a precedent, but we'll definitely see the likely ending of affirmative action in higher education. we're going to see the continued hobbling of the voting rights act, and we of course, will see more assaults on nonwhite communities. so the case that focused on the indian welfare child act is enormous and has real questions about indigenous sovereignty in the united states. it's a blockbuster of a term, just like last term was a blockbuster of a term. >> i have termed what the right is overall trying to do is repeal the 21st century. they see it as an abomination. all of the rights passed for women, for people of color, they want to return to the era before we had this sort of push toward a multicultural democracy. it's clear that's what they want. they're doing it, as you mentioned, amid a crisis of legitimacy. you have amy coney barrett now joining clarence thomas in having a spouse that's in the business.
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amy coney barrett, a year after she joined the supreme court, her husband jesse barrett's boutique indiana firm opened its first ever washington office. we don't know what he's doing lobbying. you have clarence thomas whose wife obviously was an it is an insurrectionist and still believes in the insurrection. how do we even trust a court when the spouses are getting involved in politics? >> yeah, i mean you saw ginni thomas sitting for that for our interview this week. like you said was behind closed doors, that we may get to see some of the testimony in an upcoming hearing. but according to reports, like you said, she maintained the 22 election was stolen, but she'll such as she did not discuss her activities to overturn the election with her husband, justice clarence thomas. at this point it's not about ginni thomas being on the honor code. it's the appearance of a conflict that is really at issue, and this does matter, because we just had a gallup poll out yesterday the reported that 47% of u.s. --
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said they have a great deal of trust in the judicial branch. that's a 20% drop from two years ago, 7% drop from last year. it's the lowest in gallops trend by six points. it's the lowest since the watergate year when they first started asking this question. this does matter as we are contemplating americans confidence in the supreme court and how that can be improved. >> and, melissa, mueller alito says we are not allowed to criticize him. i guess we're not allowed to say the court is to be criticized. six politicians making right wing law. >> it's interesting that justice alito takes the huskings to disclaim that the court is lost its legitimacy. if it has lost his legitimacy with the public, it likely is the product of his own writing. he was the author of the dobbs decision that came out in june, laying waste to 50 years of
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precedent. americans are simply drawing conclusions. let's listen, a decision had been upheld for years and now it's a 60 degree conservative super majority on the court made up of three justices put on the court for the express press purpose of overruling roe, and then it happens. americans aren't stupid. they can put two and two together. >> when they know that all these justices lie. stick around, guess what, we're going to make a turn for the positive. right after this break. t after this break sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. so you can... astepro and go.
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it's time to play our favorite game. oh yes. who won the week, erin haines and mostly maria back with me. let me go to melissa murray. melissa murray, who won the week? >> i think the january six select committee won the week when they brought in the spouse of a sitting supreme court justice to testify. this has never happened before. who knows it above if it will happen? again if they won the week, that means john roberts lost the week because he definitely did not want this in the news cycle. >> i'm trying to figure out anyway and we won't see any more comments about his lady but this is something very much off there. but we are interested to hear what she testified. to erin haines, it falls to you who tell us to tell us who won the week. >> and let melissa finished, but i think vivian jefferson, aka lizzo, she was in
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washington on tour earlier this week. got onstage and literally played the flute from james madison from 1813 when she was in town. congress invited her to see the full, play it, she took them up on the offer, and the rest as they say is literally history. black people playing a american artifact a copy of u.s. constitution, a shout out to the american philosophical society. p.s., democracy belongs to all, of us people. >> you're from philadelphia. you're gonna go try ring the liberty bell, aren't you? all y'all are trying to get me artifacts. >> welcome to american history. >> i am to tell you, i love you, but tonight i have to side with erin haines. my vote as well is lizzo. lizzo won the week. it's not just that she played at this concert and played this
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historic flute. my hairdresser coco her mom was there, it was a mother's day president, it was empowering. it's the freak out. it's the freak out on the right that makes it just kiss sweet. let me give you the back story. the library of commerce reached out to liz or when they found she was coming to d.c. for the concert. she's a classically-trained flutist. you visited the library of and played multiple floats. the library's largest flute collection in the world. let's play that. let's play it. ♪ ♪ ♪ and this was the reaction on the right. instead of enjoying the sound and enjoying what she did at the concert, let's put the concert up please, my wonderful director. the lizzo fluitt controversy is
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why i have joined -- another person who said, basically that she was denigrating white history, she was denigrating white history by playing a flute that got not a single soul on the right knew existed. they did know that food existed, even when between being a slave, james madison was plain innocent. they didn't. how >> can i change my answer? can i change my answer? i'm gonna overrule myself with the court date. but carla hayden, the library of congress, won the week. >> but i'm gonna go off with the library of congress as well. >> we're gonna stop now. i get a stop. we love you guys move. have a great weekend we>> tonight on all in. >> why did you approve of a special master signed one of the pfizer warrants. that was surprising? >> i didn't know any of the

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