nobody wins in this. >> this is a family divided like no other. >> yeah. >> that's all for this edition of dateline, i'm craig melvin, thank you for watching. tonight, grass ushered in the show, if on presidents legal team divided against the mar-a-lago investigation. trump's legal team wanted to be last bat of, something that has never been in his playbook. plus, devastation across florida as hurricane ian makes landfall in south carolina, rescuers still underway for those stranded, the damage assessment begins. then, after a week of some major news, we will recap the latest headlines and get some new perspectives, as the 11th hour gets underway on this friday night.

good evening, once again, we will have the very latest on the devastation and efforts to recover after hurricane ian, but, first, we are going to break into the new developments of the january 6th committee and the next possible final hearing. today, the committee chairman revealed it will happen before the midterms took place. >> well, the next hearing will be, the november 8th election, it will be next week but you can, for all intents and purposes expect it. we are not really looking at bringing witnesses before the committee and the next hearing, we still have significant information that we have not shown to the public. >> i wonder what that information will be. meanwhile donald trump himself still battling the doj over those documents seized from his mar-a-lago club in florida. washington post post reporting tonight, his lawyers are at

odds with one another over legal strategy. his newest lawyer, chris guys, want them to turn down the temperature or the department of justice but the rest of the team, and trump, they don't agree. this, week trump did get a ruling in his favor from the judge in charge of the case. his 2020 appointed judge alien cannon, overruled orders that would force trump's lawyers to backups on the claims he's making in an actual court of law. just hours ago the department of justice filed a new appeal asking to speed up its request to shut down the special master process entirely. the doj is trying to get a hold of the non classified records that were seized at mar-a-lago. with that, let's get this evening started with the help of our lead off panel. john allen, senior national politics reporter for nbc news, barbara mcquade, veteran by the prosecutor, and former u. s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, charlie

savage. washington correspondent for the new york times and author of power wars, the relentless rise of presidential authority and secrecy. madam mcquade, i turn to you first. the doj already has the classified documents. why are these non classified one so important? >> they filed this brief today saying they want to extradite the appeal. we have sort of lost track of this appeal because they filed that motion for the state on these classified documents, as you mentioned, and they got those back. those are the ones that are most sensitive. they have the most urgency in doing this intelligence risk assessment. but all these other documents according to the document are also presidential records of the long to the government. all this delay is causing higher mid to the investigation, the criminal investigation, at the heart of this case. and so what they want is to expedite the appeal and they want to litigate the issue of, number one, whether a special master is necessary at all, and if so, where they can narrow the issues to attorney-client

privilege and get a ruling on this idea that executive privilege exists as against the executive branch. it seems like a nonsensical assertion of executive privilege, and let's just get that decision decided by a court, and then we can all move on. there is no need to categorize all 11,000 documents. and there's no executive privilege, we can just get them back and we can begin our investigation. >> charlie, in honor of things we have lost track of, how about the battle of the special master even existing? where are we in this fight? >> that's part of what this request for an expedited appeal at the 11th circuit is about. when the appeals court panel last week rolled back judge cannon's order to allow the justice department to resume having access for the criminal investigators with the

classified documents, they also said very clearly that they thought that she had aired. this is a matter of legal reasoning inside either as a basis to appoint a special master here at all. the justice department at that mayer matter had not asked them to turn off the special master. so they just kind of said it and moved on. and so part of what they are trying to do here now is say wait, if you guys already think that, there may be a different line of judges this time, but to trump appointed attorneys make clear that that's where it's going to end up, why don't we just go ahead, is their argument, and litigate that matter, and we can just turn this holding off. this is going to be a gigantic waste of time. it's going to consume a lot of resources. we're going to have months of arguments over this, and then

probably once it gets to the 11th circuit, if they ruled the way they did, as they mentioned in the ruling last week, they're gonna throw the whole thing out anyway because they're going to say judge cannon screwed up that there's no jurisdiction here in the first place, and vacate the whole thing. it's going to be, there's no point to this, it seems to be their argument. >> there is a point. delays, delays, delays. it's if there's anything trump likes to do it slow down the game. >> i agree with you. i've heard that a lot. one sealer 11 circuit puts the de-classified documents back in the hands of criminal investigators and let the move forward, it's not to delaying the criminal investigation that poses the greatest legal peril to donald trump anymore. it's a sideshow at this point. a huge volume of documents, but the ones that could result in charges, like unauthorized retention of national security information, like defying a subpoena for documents marked as classified, are no longer being delayed. and so what is the point of this entire sideshow? this seems to be the judge's justice department argument. it's not even helping trump in his usual strategy of delay. >> john, i feel like it's déjà vu all over again. the washington post reporting that trump's newest lawyers is trying to get him to turn down

the temperature with the department of justice. something i feel like chance of white house advisers, tons of former lawyers, have tried to do with trump four years. here is what our friend caroline of the washington post said earlier today. >> he's trying to scare the former president straight. there is a way this can go bad. this is a way this can go good. listen to me and i promise we can avoid criminal jeopardy but indictment is a word apparently he has tossed around as a possibility and i don't think it's a scare tactic. you can't keep pressing all of these buttons with doj and not expect that they're gonna charge. >> you think there's any chance trump is taking this seriously? >> i think it's taking the overall investigation seriously.

there's no surprise that there's a divide. there's always a divide among trump's legal team. people telling him that he can do these novel crazy things that support what his view is of what he should get away with, and then there is also a lawyer to who says maybe you should be poking the bear in the justice department, or whichever bare he is poking at any given moment. not always because it is so reminiscent of the crazy scene that was painted by the january six committee of an oval office meeting where he's trying to get wind of the head guy of the justice department and he literally had that guy, jeff rosen, and jeffrey kept the one who had replaced him, battling it out in front of him like some sort of roman emperor with gladiators to make this argument about who should be calling the justice department. none of this is no at all. trump's legal strategy comes from trump. >> let's be clear. none of them are anything like gladiators. charlie, i know you're out with a new piece tonight. talk about how trump's claims

of executive privilege, how their play in both of jerry six investigation and the mar-a-lago case. how can you explain? >> it's sort of an interesting convergence of these two otherwise unrelated investigations. both of them right now seem to be hitting a chapter in which trump is attempting to make the same somewhat novel, very novel, claim of executive privilege that is a former president, against the wishes of the current president, the incumbent officeholder, he retains secrecy power to keep information about his white house communications secret, not from an outsider like congress, but from the executive branch itself, from the justice department criminal investigators. in the january six case, there is a behind the scenes battle going on right now in the courthouse here in d. c. over subpoenas to witnesses who, two conversations in the oval office, where trump has told

them, don't answer questions, because i have executive privilege here in the justice department we assume are saying no you have to answer these questions. we don't get to see that because it's grand jury proceeding. that's playing out the chief judge in d. c. who oversees that grand jury. as we've been discussing in the special master matter in the mar-a-lago documents investigation, a big issue is that judge cannon, that trump appointee, said that a special master review could include whether documents were subject to executive privilege such that they should not ever be shown to the justice department 's investigators or simply have already seen them, they have to remain off limits, they can show them to a grand jury, they can't ask witnesses about, them it said or, it's that are. the justice department has said all along that's crazy, that's

not how executive privilege works. there's no precedent on the next president asserting that privilege against the justice department is part of the executive branch against the wishes of a current president successfully. both because ex presidents has less privileged power than the current one, and because executive privilege is not really about internal executive branch matters. nevertheless, judge cannon has entertained that, and the special master has been trying to force the trump team to confront that is a start racking in stacking these documents and saying what kind of privilege might attach to. it one of things it happened this week was the judge cannon in rescuing them from some of what the special master wanted them to do, relieve them of the burden of saying well, this document can be shown to the justice department and, here's why, as opposed to its generic executive privilege. that's one of the things in both of these investigations that is now coming into the foreign is gonna play out in october. >> think just about the words charlie just used. judge cannon stepped in and rescue them. rescued trump's team. is it safe to say that she's

basically backing trump? >> it seems that way from her opinions. it's hard to know exactly what her motive is. one thing that is odd here is that she appoints a special master and she is essentially delegated to him some of this work. he has fashioned an order, he has asked party to do certain things, he's essentially doing his job, what she asked him to do, and then she second guess is it and changes some of his directives and all of them favor donald trump. one is to not have to say, backup this claim that he has been making publicly that the fbi planted evidence at mar-a-lago. judge dearie had said, by today, he wanted him to specify, which, if any documents were not at mar-a-lago in the fbi came? judge cannon says, not forget about, you don't have to do that. judge dearie also sent an aggressive timeline. she extended that by almost a month. and so it does seem that most of these things are favorable

to donald trump. i don't know what her motive zion, but that certainly the effect. >> we also get a timeline update on when we're getting the next january six hearing. chairman bennie thompson said we will get it before in the midterms. john, do you think this delay helps or hurts the committee? >> i think it hurts the committee in that the closer they get to january 3rd of next year, the more likely it is that they will no longer exist, meaning if republicans take control of the house in the midterm elections, they are going to shut down this committee or oversight and start investigating the other side with it. they have a tight time period here to finish up their hearings and to put out a report and perhaps make some sort of referrals to the justice department. of course the dust justice department may not need all those referrals because they're watching these hearings live. as we, know they are pursuing criminal tragedies. >> an important reminder. the clock maybe, taking the midterms are coming, with the doj in their investigations, they are still going on. john, allen barbara mckay,

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have you standing outside in the freezing cold and snow. we've moved to warm weather, and you're in the middle of a hurricane. you are in florida, you're in south carolina. i know in the last time i don't remember when you are in your own bed. what are the last 24 hours been like? >> so you're the person i have to blame. we will talk about that a little later. but the threat for the carolinas even has hurricane ian as well onshore. there are threats of tornadoes, threats of those thunderstorms as the system continues to move. but as you look at the charleston area, you have the mayor of charleston telling us that they dodged a bullet. they did not get the effects that they feared just about a day or so ago. that's not to say that charleston was not impacted by this. they received the most rain over the past day than they have an any day since the 1938. they had wind gusts of up to 70 miles an hour in this area

tonight, about 40,000 people in this area are without power. but the mayor and other local officials look at the devastation in other parts of this country. we're talking about florida, and they know they were spared the worst effects of it. we also look along the south carolina coast. it's not just charleston, but in myrtle beach, rescues needed to take place. if you look at polley's island, the entire pier was knocked off and the flooding in that area, local officials called it catastrophic. so all those folks and officials in this area doing knowledge that the impact of hurricane ian was much different than what they saw in florida, there was definitely a significant and historic impact for the carolinas. >> shaquille thank you, please go home, please get some rest, you have been at there for days. i'm grateful. we're still following the aftermath of hurricane ian in florida with the storm washed and destroyed parts of the only bridge to sanibel island. joining me to discuss for the year no fort myers, is bryan, stern cofounder of project dynamo, a nonprofit get a

catered to helping people to get out of hostile places. last time we spoke with brian he was in ukraine, helping people. there brian, thank you for joining, us thank you for the work that you are doing. i know you started this, probably about 24 hours ago. today you are on the water all day, doing but rescues. you stopped a couple of hours ago. do you think there's a lot more out there. when you went into night did you say, we've done a good days work and were safe? >> no, the devastation is kind of catastrophic. there is tons of work to be done. there are people who need help. there are a lot of people who need to go but i are frankly afraid to go or don't want to go around prepared to go. there's a lot of people everywhere. we have three rescues all day. today we did rescues all day yesterday. we pulled handicapped people, poland wheelchairs, amputee, a dog, or cat, all kinds of people.

sanibel is bad. captive is really bad. it's currently it is catastrophic that most on a little most people don't understand until you see it. >> so many of these people that you are talking about, disabled people, could they have evacuated if they'd had wanted to? or was this bound to happen because they were basically trapped? >> a lot of these islands, the only way to come on in office by boat. sanibel, the causeway and bridge to go to sanibel, as you know, has been taken out on both banks. and in the rescue business we don't judge. people stay for reasons, people leave for their reasons, but the bottom line is, now they're in a very bad position. we have seen houses made out of cinder blocks the don't exist anymore. so the power of this thing was truly aggressive. >> when you see all these people it is a reminder though, brian, that evacuating is very hard for some.

from the many rescued and that the ones you have met, what are they telling you? >> they describe the hurricane in great detail. it is been described as hell, it has been described as i can't believe i'm alive. a lot of shock. we have seen this in afghanistan in a lot in ukraine. beyond the physical piece of the situations, the mental health piece of these things really can't be understated. we have evacuated refugees out of ukraine and our evacuating refugees literally out of florida where people's entire livelihoods don't exist anymore, we're all their positions are rolled down to a small bag and that small bag is usually filled with wet clothes, so it's really heartbreaking, got wrenching. my team and i were working really hard. the conditions are really difficult. very hard.

a lot of mud, a lot of water. my team is absolutely awesome. we have been working hard all day yesterday, all day today. we continue operations tomorrow. >> i know you need to go, but your group is also a nonprofit. for those who want to support you, how do they do it? >> please go to project dynamo. org. you can donate their. there's a big red button there. where entirely donor funded. as also where you can register for evacuation. i would ask, please, though, that if you're going to register, please make sure that they want to go, that they need to go, because our resources are very limited and our time is limited. we walk probably 20 miles today doing some rescues. so we are here to help. we want to help. we are helping. if you need to get out, please go to the website register and we will do the best we possibly can. but we are financially strapped, yes, it's hard to come by it down here. i feel i'm back in ukraine

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this week, from the hurricane hitting florida, to politics and war in ukraine. much like last friday night, we brought together a really interesting group of people to break it down all of what it means. let's welcome humorous george hahn, tim o'brien, senior columnist for bloomberg opinion, julian taft, chair of the editorial board, and enter large for the financial times, and my old friend dozens michael, democratic strategist and former executive director of new york state democratic party. guys, we have a lot to cover. and i'm going to start with january 6th committee. they finally bring in justice clarence thomas's wife, ginni, and what did she do? she doubles down and tells the committee she believes the election was stolen, that joe biden won.

she says she didn't discuss any of her postelection activities, contacting all sorts of people, she never told her husband. supreme court justice clarence thomas. women return to you first, basil. should the january six committee just shut her down? bring urine, she giver question to ask, which comes out with a big fat smirk honors face saying trump won. why even do that one more ounce of attention? she's clearly not an honest broker. >> but we wanted it. there are a lot of democrats wanted to see her be brought in front of the committee. the reality is, we all knew she was going to say anyway. but she wanted to be held accountable that she was but the truth is that even given that the fact that so many polls show the threats to democracy are top of mind for so many voters, even though the economy shows it, that committee actually did its job. it brought this to the attention the voter. i have no illusions that ginni thomas is going to shed any light on what she and donald trump are up to.

i'm sure in their reports that she has talked to his law clerks, her husband's law clerks, about a lot of her dealings, and i imagine that that has influenced the justices decision. so, having said that, let's not, we shouldn't killer selves about the role that she has played. >> and do you think she has not mentioned any of this to her husband? >> i think it's amazing. i totally hear what basil says. everyone knew what she was going to. say that they came out with such clarity is still pretty shocking. not just for the american people but for the world stage. because trying to imagine situation with somebody is coming out and saying i don't believe the election was actually valid, that's what i really believe, is breathtaking how many times do you hear it? >> it sounds dangerous. >> dangerous because her husband is conflicted. a supreme court justice should remove himself from anything

going through the court the deals with donald trump but judge thomas was the only justice who actively descended when a federal district court said congress could get trump's tax returns. he is actively trying to intrude on illegal scrutiny of the presidents activities. the thomas's are fanatics. they are not just regular actors in washington. ginni thomas is a fanatic. this is cultist behavior. she is doubling down in front of the january six committee. i think we have to recognize that and not just treat this as someone with another point of view and somebody who is rolling in, whose relationship with her husband can be a wink waken a nod nod. i find it hard to believe that when they are lying in bed at night or having coffee in the morning they aren't talking about all of this stuff. >> you know they talk about this. and the >> [laughs] >> like they didn't talk it over about it over their cornflakes. no way. there's no way they didn't not talk about. number two, does this shock us?

obviously it doesn't shock us but not shock us. and does it embolden election deniers? well this woman in this position on this profile says no this election is not legitimate. does this embolden? >> it also matters on the world stage. . >> graded an english. accent >> okay. exactly. i spent years in the former soviet union myself and i've been watching a lot of russian state tv in the last few days and you would be amazed how many times tucker carlson, the right-wing media is literally broadcasting on russian state tv right now. for russians the idea that it very heart of washington you have someone like ginni thomas essentially denying legitimacy of the election, that is ricocheting around the world right now. it's not just inside our

country. >> i have always said, this is not a big lie. this is a big conspiracy. the amount of resources that it takes, the amount of people that are involved, to get everyone on the same page at the same time about looking at this in the same way, especially someone's high up is ginni thomas with that stature, it's not accidental. >> all right, you talked about the world stage. the one person who votes inside donald trump's head is you. and the only person who is actually has seen his taxes. i want to know what's going on in his head in trump world this week. we are watching a special master, john barry, who dom trump asked, for basically say, start up or move on. he is pushing back on all the big guys that trump is pushing around the mar-a-lago investigation why alien can and the judge down there says i'm gonna give you more time. how is donald trump responding to all? this >> i think he's in a quandary. >> i would've said that before. it's time, it's. it >> it's a myth that he has nine lives.

there's a myth that he has always escape the long arm of the law. the reality, is he has never had this array of investigations coming at him with the sense of purpose that these two. and so many of them are just basic day-to-day court motions and most of these actions have gone against him. he has gotten espionage case, essentially, against him at mar-a-lago. he is an election fraud case in georgia. he is a civil financial fraud case in the state of new york. he has a criminal financial fraud case against him in new york city. and january six is keyed up if merrick garland has this steel to do it, a federal prosecution. now on top of all this, the judges that he appointed are trying to protect him, but other members of the judiciary are playing ball. the jury senator inside outside the courtroom and see executive privilege, come into a courtroom, and say it under oath. if you're going to make claims that the fbi planted evidence

on you at mar-a-lago, that come into the courtroom and testify under oath. she has blocked that yet again. she is running interference yet again. it is a reminder the donald trump is not only polluted the supreme court, he has polluted the federal district court as well. and the real world impact of that is people are willing to pervert the law in his favor. but i do think that there is a reckoning coming for trump. i don't know what shape it will take. it may not happen in a full blown way. but he has not in a position right now to just walk away from. it >> but it's an interesting thing that happened this week, apart from that, which is that you had a youtube gala poll come out that shows that 51% of americans do not think that he should run for office and only 35% actually do think so. and that is arguably the first time you've actually had amid veteran, e is like majority, actually saying, this guy is not fit for office. so i would be curious to see -- >> if he's going around the

country and folks and he's attaching himself to folks running for office, maybe less so at the highest level, but certainly at the statewide level, and those folks start losing, we have people like mitch mcconnell say you know what? you've got to start distancing ourselves from this guy. we had state party leaders saying we have to start keeping our distance. that is what it comes to. >> it is statistically happening? the rally in ohio was the large shot of that -- >> no wide shot of that. when >> it wasn't even a third full maybe. and our people kind of getting sick of this? the act is getting old. i love dawn wrinkles, but the act was the same was the last year. trump hasn't changed a line. it is so tired. these other sort of like, kings that he is anointed. they're really pawns. trump's the only star. these people are not stars. they're doll, they're boring,

they carrying the company line, whatever. when he is out of the picture, and i get excited when he's actually out of the picture, because we've been teed up so many times on social media. >> it's not dependent on him anymore. trumpism is embedded now in the republican party. ron desantis is donald trump with a less ill fitting suit. >> let's stay on rhonda santas and trump's adopted home state, florida. we are two days out from the hurricane and we're starting to get background. how do people go? back how do they rebuild? can they rebuild florida? even before the hurricane, you are looking at insurance companies going belly up. can the state get rebuilt? who's gonna do? it >> they've been living there for a long time, and it's not just about desantis. it's the fact that you've got a lot of people living in places that are going to become increasingly vulnerable and you can sit there and say, do we

believe in climate change or not, the reality is, we have had six of the most damaging hurricanes happen in the last six years. it's getting worse. and unfortunately, there is a real problem just to the world of finance in terms of mortgages and insurance. these houses have been built partly because there has been fema for years and years, providing this sort of magical safety net that everyone is taking for granted. who thought it was a good idea? >> big insurers left. ron desantis, who has railed against federal government during covid -- >> the federal government that has to come in and fix things now. >> the scariest sentence anybody other said from ronald reagan, i'm the fed from the federal government and i'm here to help. how do you like me? now >> you live in new york city, and you pay very high taxes. oh lot of people moved to florida, with very low taxes. they're gonna turn around and say, we need the federal government to help us. do you want them to?

>> of course they should. of course they should. [inaudible] >> it's the trap democrats always fall into. we are nice. during these crises there are people struggling, we should give them a helping hand. i honor that. in the same situation, republicans take out a stiletto and got to the opposition. rhonda santas had spent years railing against the federal government as, it's not a force for good, it's a smothering role of american. life when his state is hit by an epic crisis, the first thing he does, and the first press conferences, we need help from the federal government. >> taking welfare funds to build volleyball courts. >> that's not always what happens it's also about going forward. firstly, people have to start building houses with government subsidies in crazy places. it is not to be building houses on the coastline in his degree

weather that is in florida -- we >> will they wake up when it changes migration patterns, where folks will live. they're not gonna want to live in places where their governors are not focused on sustainability. >> the second point is that people need to stop talking seriously about mitigation of climate change. it's both adaptation and mitigation. and that is not being viewed properly. it's taken as a political football. >> we have to take a commercial break. the answer is potentially, everyone should move to the finger lakes. george, you are nice. you are a bit nasty, but you're a good person. stay with us. when we come back, 70% of americans, they want congress to ban stock trading. for whom? for lawmakers. big question. how can they can't get it done? when the 11th hour continues.

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covid alone. the bill has more holes in it than swiss cheese, and they can't seem to vote. on it >> it's a millionaires club, no question. it's a rare moment of bipartisanship, actually. >> which we normally should celebrate. >> when was the last time they did this? daylight savings time, i think? a rare moment of bipartisanship. i have no idea why this doesn't get. dan >> you do. you have no idea? that's a lie. >> i do. and so with what? >> it is protection. >> simple. [inaudible] >> it's protection. it really is. they are concerned about loopholes. i get that. the reality is, they'll find a way around it any way to make the money they want. >> george, what do you think? >> no. they shouldn't get to do.

this now. >> all right he's just a now. is this congress just waiting -- >> they should have clear and discernible financial conflicts of in trust. the supreme court doesn't have. as the executive office doesn't have it. and congress doesn't have enough of it. >> so it is their game plan? here slope lay this and hope it gets out -- >> there is no real reason they should have thrown in a judiciary. there's no real reason they should have done that. this is slow walking, they sabotaged from day one. that's reality. >> but isn't this a bad move for democrats will get to say we're not the ones who do this to. the republicans are yes, democrats control. this >> nancy pelosi has been paul has been called up on various options he bought on google and other tax stocks. >> chip companies. >> before legislation was introduced affecting their

businesses. on the other side of the aisle, rand paul and his wife were called up for investing in regeneron before the covid lockdown. >> so these are things that congress have in common. >> they all lie to insider trade, so to speak. >> the concern i have, in addition to what we are talking about, is that progressives really want this bill. they'll start to make noise and exhibit some disunity at a point where we will start to get unity going into the midterms, namely talking about all the great things blow biden 's done. i don't want to lose that momentum and i hope it doesn't cause that rift. my fear is are we doing to each other. >> it's going to be slow action, but it won't even be on the. tableware >> just keep bringing it up here. >> you appeal to people's better in jewels. why would you engage in something a feel so dirty. >> they need the money. >> don't we all. get in line. >> remember, from buffalo new york, that time for insider trading for just whispering

attempt to his son on the white house lawn. >> 20 to remind you of martha stewart? all right, let's talk about vladimir putin. because the war in ukraine is obviously so unfocused. today, what did he do? he illegally stole territory in ukraine. i want to share headline we have from the guardian. where they write peanuts annexation speech, more angry taxi driver than head of state. you know russia. best what's your take? >> i wouldn't say it was a taxi driver. it was downright fascist, about the most fascist thing you could see on the world stage today. he has declared that he has taken control of these four provinces in ukraine. the ukrainians, in response, of applied for the membership of nato. one of the bitter ironies about what putin has done today is that he has managed to come out and say this at the very moment when the ukrainians are about to seize a town called even in donetsk, which is incredibly

important. so he doesn't even control of the land that he is claiming. >> and he's doing this a week after saying he becomes trouble using nukes. >> the other thing to importantly watch is there is been a mystery sabotage on this gas pipeline. it has caused probably the biggest lead of methane that we have ever seen, really bad for climate change. and it -- is >> a sabotage. >> an act of sabotage. >> why not? >> who can sabotage that pipeline? >> the leverage that putin hands is jacking up energy prices for people in western europe or a going at a hard winter coming and meanwhile the russian government has enormous excess foreign reserves are hauling in on natural gas and oil. >> that's exactly slowing down a bit, but yeah. >> one of my favorite lines in house of cards was houses was kevin spacey's character saying, if you say it it will be so. and that seems to be, was a

great piece of dialogue. so putin says it, we were supposed to just sort of, the world is supposed to believe that this is so just because he said this is mine? >> [inaudible] >> i was born in the 70s, raised in the, 80s and a time when you went under your desk to practice being a little safer for nuclear. we're all those movies, red don, they, after all that. i thought we left. that i have more and more people every single day coming to me and saying, they're really concerned because they have a bad man on one side of the world and they don't know what trump's doing on our side. they're really concerned about. happening >> here is what trump is doing on our. side nothing. he's an unemployed senior citizen. >> tiger carlson being broadcast on russian state tv in an attempt to show that america is divided, et cetera,

et cetera. that is really concerning. inside, as we can tell by looking at all the signals from the kremlin, there is a realization that they are using and, as you said, it makes things -- on >> russian tv they have started to take -- >> watch what happens in the next few days in the east of ukraine because ukrainians will have a massive literally breakthrough. the question will be, what will america keep giving the supplies they need to be on a roll and keep pushing? >> but when you see watch what happens in three days how, concerning is it that people are not watching what's happening? and remember it was a lewinsky who said i need the world to stand with me and pay attention. and we're not. not like we were months ago. >> look at the attention span in the american audience. it's not as interesting to them anymore. they're bored with. it >> how dangerous is?

that >> very dangerous. >> americans lost track of afghanistan and that went on year after year after year. i think it's on the media and political leadership to keep peoples minds focused on this and moments like this. otherwise people are only going to pay attention once the stuff lands on their door. >> well, tim, when you insult the media, i envy that. tim o'brien, george hahn, basil smikle, gillian tett, and before we go, as crazy this week was, as devastating was in florida, it is really important to remember and thanked the thousands of people who have come together and started this cleanup process from hurricane ian. i want to especially spotlight the 44,000 utility workers from florida and 32 other states that are working around the clock just to get the lights back on. in dark times you must look for the helpers. there are bright lights all

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