intelligence, and the fact that she's fine. >> just a moment ago. a presidential smooch. >> that does it for me. you can also catch me on the katie phang show weekend mornings at 7:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc and stream new episodes on the msnbc hub on peacock as well. the reidout with joy reid is up next. >> i'm not going to mince words, democrats want republicans dead, and they have already started the killings. >> that inflammatory resident lick is what we have come to expect from marjorie taylor greene but what's concerning is the deafening silence when her colleagues are asked to denounce

that talk. and one florida community prioritized lifestyle over safety and sustainability. residents are now paying the price. and later, noted historian and film maker, henry louis gates joins me to talk about his highly anticipated new pbs series, making black america. we begin with the global resurgence of fascism. brazil held the first round of the election. bolsonaro emerged in second place, five points behind the front runner, leftist former president, dela silva. because no candidate received 50% of the vote, brazil's elections are headed to a runoff at the end of the month. according to the associated press, de la silva had 48% of the vote, and president bolsonaro had 43%. bolsonaro outperformed the polls. bolsonaro like the former american president claimed that the election was rigged.

unsurprisingly, like trump, bolsonaro has openly praised dictators, paying homage to the 1964 political coup that resulted in roughly 20,000 people in his country being tortured. a former army captain has used the military as a prop during his recently attacks against the supreme court and other institutions, openly flirting with the idea of a coup of his own. his language much like trump's has increasingly divided the country. his base calls for blood in the streets. bolsonaro has promoted a return to religion, family nationalism parroted by the prime minister of italy, giorgia meloni. texas senator ted cruz called her rhetoric spectacular and former secretary of state, mike pompeo said italy deserves a strong conservative leadership. who cares if that strong

leadership involves demonizing minority communities and immigrants and threatening to revoke the free will of women. all good. the same republicans remained silent when their party leader launched into racist social media rant attacking mitch mcconnell's wife and seemingly summoning his supporters once again to violence. friday using his much ridiculed social media app, the 2020 election loser posted that mcconnell has a death wish in all caps for having supported legislation to keep the government operating through mid december. he then went on to smear mcconnell's wife, elaine chao, his own former transportation secretary by referring to her as his china loving wife, cocoa chao. the majority of the republican party didn't have much to say about any of that. florida senator rick scott who is in charge of the senate republicans brushed it off as just another silly nickname. >> you remember the senate gop

leadership, are you okay with this? >> well, look, i can never talk about -- respond to why anybody else says what they said. as you know, the president likes to give people nicknames. you can ask him how he came up with the nickname. i'm sure he has a nickname for me. i don't condone violence, and i hope no one else condones violence. >> it was left to the murdoch owned "wall street journal" and to denounce what sure didn't sound like a death threat against the senate minority leader, since no republican would dare to do so. republicans have spent so long being timid and indifferent to the outright racism. even mcconnell didn't have the guts to defend himself or his own wife, shades of ted cruz. the last time they waved off threats, is when he summoned a mob to washington and told them to fight like hell to overturn the 2020 election. their indifference left seven people dead and resulted in the first time in modern american

history that supporters of a losing candidate, that they assaulted our nation's capitol. the republican party's complete refusal to hold trump accountable allowed stewart rhodes, leader of the white nationalist oath keepers to answer trump's call to violence. they are being forced to answer for their actions. earlier today, jurors heard the opening remarks in a seditious conspiracy case against the members of the oath keepers who concocted a plan for armed rebellion, and did whatever was necessary up to and including using force to stop the transfer of power from donald trump to president-elect joe biden. rhodes attorney said he did nothing illegal and called the case against him completely wrong. trump seemed to agree. he said he would look very favorably at full pardons for january 6th defendants if he became president again. i'm joined by michael steel,

host of the michael steel podcast. and thomas zimmer, contributor to "the guardian." thank you for being here. i told you before we came on and i'll say it again on tvp that your twitter feed is sort of a lifeline for me so i know i'm not crazy when i talk about the fact, and i have been talking about this for quite a few years, that fascism is coming back, right, that it's here in america and it's real. i just laid through and went through a whole series of things from trump threatening violence against the sitting minority leader in the senate, attacking his wife racially to what's happening in italy. is there a difference in your view to the kind of fascism that's coming here and the kind of fascism we're seeing in places like brazil and italy. >> fascism is a difficult term. it was even difficult to define back when it rose in europe in the 1920s and 30s because in many ways, fascist movements were all over the place. they were more defined by what

they hated than by anything else. they were violently antisocialist, antiliberal. antidemocratic, antipluralist. i think to me, what is very important is that there is a tendency in this country in america to look at all of this, the history of fascism, the sort of rise of movements, parties, all over the quote unquote west and beyond the west. you talked about brazil, and see that as something that has no sort of equivalent in u.s. history, has no roots in u.s. history, but there is a domestic tradition, a domestic u.s. tradition of, well, if you want to call them fascist movements or ideas, or if you want to call them far right violent white supremacists, maybe the terminology doesn't even matter all that much. what is important is that in this country, right, there's always been a significant

faction that has just not been on board with the idea of america becoming a multiracial pluralistic democracy, and that has always been willing to embrace violence, right, to prevent the country from ever becoming that, and there's a strong domestic tradition of this, and we need to grapple with that. what we're seeing is not new, it's not an aberration, it's in line with long standing tendencies and impulses against democracy. >> i think you made an important point against michael racial democracy. michael steel, you had to deal with the challenge as the head of the republican party for a time, which is this sort of tension between, are we a white country with nonwhite people in it, in which they get to be here, but they shouldn't be wielding power, right or are we a true multiracial democracy, where the black president coming up doesn't upend the whole culture, where people are

pitting themselves into tribes to fight for power. the latter seems to be where the republican party has decided they are. no one is condemning the former president who they talk about like he is president, for attacking the sitting minority leader of the united states senate. even mitch mcconnell isn't attacking him for that. marjorie taylor greene. thomas zimmer had a tweet, he talked about marjorie taylor greene and put her in the context, it's always they define their attacks on the other side by saying we're the victims. we have to do whatever it takes because the other side is trying to hurt us. here's marjorie taylor greene. >> we're all targets now for daring to push back against the regime, and it doesn't stop at a weaponized legal system. i'm not going to mince words with you all, democrats want republicans dead. and they've already started the killings. >> they've already started the kylings, michael steel, and so when you frame it that way, anything goes. anything you have to do to stop

these people that are doing the killings. >> that's the point. you grease the skids as much as you can. you create as little resistance by taking most extreme posture rhetorically, and in the past when it was the john burj birch society, when it was what we saw with john mccain during the presidential race, the attacks on barack obama, the leadership of the party said no, they stood up against that. they responded to it. they didn't go silent. they leaned into to reestablish and reaffirm the democratic principles that have defined the country and more specifically those things that we allegedly believed as republicans about individual rights and liberties and freedoms. right? now that's all thrown out. and i think thomas puts his finger on a very important point that this threat has always been a part of the american fab lick.

-- fabric. it's been woven in various ways and various times, has been pulled on. what we see now is instead of one group here or an individual idiot like marjorie taylor greene pulling on it and being rebuffed, now you find an entire political construct is pulling on that thread and trying to reweave this idea of democracy and pluralism. yeah, a lot of white folks don't like the idea that you and me, joy, represent an existential threat to their existence in their view. but the reality of it is we have been here for 400 some years, and we managed to work through a lot of that. now you see this retrenchment and aggression away from the idea of the rodney king moment can be a real thing. can we all just get along, and instead, they want to refute

that. they put it in political context. instead of saying white people are being threatened by black people or black people and asians or minorities want to see white people dead, it's democrats want to see republicans dead. republicans representing this uber whiteness that they're projecting around the globe and certainly here in the country. >> well, i mean, they kind of push back on it, and they kind of didn't. the tea party movement that existed during the obama years is now the baseline of the republican party, right? >> it's very different, joy. >> ron desantis on, they were hanging obama in effigy and saying, i remember mitch mcconnell saying i take him at his word that he's a muslim. he says he's a christian. i want to let tom in here. do we have element two from my director, do we have it. you don't. that's okay. i worry that we didn't react to

the tea party movement strongly. that became the baseline. and maga has piled on top of that. i mean, the tea party governor of florida was out there saying, you know, even though he has a full complement of police that if there's looting, we're a second amount state, you might get shot. i don't think a responsible governor talks like that. trump said it, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. it's baseline. tea party people are the majority of the house caucus. >> i think what we're seeing is it's an assault of the fundamental premises of democracy and democratic political culture, which are, a, you accept the political opponent as legitimate, and b, you renounce political violence. what we're seeing here specifically from marjorie taylor greene is the complete opposite of that, right? >> right. >> and what is important to me is i think over the past few years, we've seen a significant

radicalization of conservatism of the republican party of the american right more generally. but radicalization does not mean aberration or departure, right. it is in line with long standing antidemocratic traditions and tendencies and impulses on the right, but it has significantly radicalized. we need to keep both things in mind. you mentioned one moment when a significant radicalization happened which is after barack obama was elected in 2008, and i think since december of 2020, we have seen a significance of next phase of radicalization, which was clearly a direct response to the antiracist protests in the wake of the murder of george floyd. to the right, they referred to this as, look, this is proof, the quote unquote left, the democrats, the left, he is

supposedly radical, anti-american, forces of the left that are supposedly in charge of the democratic party, they are already doing this. they are already violently assaults what they define as real america, real americans. what we see in what marjorie taylor greene said is a permission structure. the key question for me is how are they giving themselves permission to embrace the kind of radicalism and extremism that marjorie taylor greene stands for. the other side is committing acts of violence, what do we have to do, we have to fight back. >> i'm going to give you the last word, michael, the group that's become the easy target is transpeople. you have to fix sate on people that are attacking us, disney, the lgbt community, white replacement, they're trying to constantly zero in and train the eye on who this is that's

attacking, and it's frightening because what scares me and keeps me up at night, michael, is how many people would be okay with an outcome that's a more fascist government if the people who make them uncomfortable are put down. is there a way to turn this back in the republican party, is there something that can be done? >> the leadership is not prepared to do that, so they don't want to do that. two, this idea of, you know, how we turn these corners is going to require us. we got an election coming up in november, people. all right, this is where you can begin to draw that line, that very bright red line in the sand and say, no, we are not giving power back to this fascist tendency, to the marjorie taylor greenes. kevin mccarthy has told us she's going to be a leader in the party. we know where they're going. you know this, folks, don't get

stupid on us and act like you don't. you do. you have a chance to control the outcomes, and that's the thing no one is counting on is how the american people respond. >> we'll see. i don't sleep because of this stuff. thank you both very much. i appreciate you guys coming up. up next, new reporting on the mysterious person who allegedly lured migrants on to planes bound for martha's vineyard with false promises of jobs and support. "the reidout" continues after this. reidout" continues after this

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hurricane ian forced florida governor ron desantis to take time off from his inhumane political theater where he created a parcel post of migrants he shipped around the country. texas governor greg abbott has not slowed down. one of his buses dropped off 50 migrants in front of the vice president's residence in washington, d.c. today. the duped exports were venezuela. he was undeterred by criticism of his performative saytism from his democratic opponent, beto o'rourke in their first and only debate was held with no audience at governor abbott's request. >> this hateful rhetoric, treating human beings as political pawns, talking about invasions and texas defending themselves, that's how people get killed at the walmart in el paso. the gentleman that we learned

about yesterday. this is incredibly dangerous of texas and not reflective of our values. >> in the height of irony after ron desantis tapped into $12 million from florida's budget to fly several dozen venezuela migrants from texas to martha's vineyard, according to the conservative tabloid the "new york post," venezuela migrants in new york, they were being recruited to head to florida with hurricane katrina clean up. irony is dead. much is unknown about the state sponsored human trafficking, "the new york times" unmasked a critical alleged player. little has been known whom the woman said migrants identified herself as pearla, when she solicited them to get on the flights. a person briefed into the matter told "the new york times" the person being looked at in connection with with the operations is a woman named pearla huerta, a former combat medic and agent was discharged

after two decades in the u.s. army that included several deployments to iraq and afghanistan according to military records. the civil rights attorneys representing migrants in a class action suit against ron desantis said once they confirm the identity, she'll be added to the lawsuit. joining me is nicky freed, recently ran for governor, and commissioner, thank you for being here. what do you make of the fact that we know who perla is, a u.s. military veteran and that she was operating in texas. is there some way for the florida cabinet of which you are a member or the florida legislature to find out who paid her? >> yeah, we have very strict laws in the state of florida that are called sunshine laws that you're supposed to be able to petition the governor for records. well, that doesn't happen under a governor desantis administration. i can't tell you how many times in the last three and a half years i have spent public records requests asking for additional information, and that's part of the problem.

i've asked for information, not even just on this issue, let's go all the way back to the pandemic when i was trying to find out information about the unemployment system, and couldn't find information, which is why i wrote to the department of justice, merrick garland asking for assistance and help. there's judges that are come in here. the legislature, one of our senators has filed a lawsuit to get some of this information to make sure it doesn't happen again. we know there's so many laws that were violated. whether it's federal trafficking and smuggling laws to the laws here in the state of florida, so many things were violated and, you know, joy, the irony is this. i spent the entire day in fort myers, you know, looking at our first responders, from not just florida but all across the country who are putting their lives on the line to save people, such an american thing to do, the patism, and we have a governor who does the most unpatriotic and un-american thing humanly possible. the juxtaposition of what is happening in the state of florida is not getting lost on a lot of us.

>> you do have a lawsuit that has been filed against ron desantis. external lawsuits by the migrants themselves. there's also internally, a gentleman named jason pizo said he's suing to block the state from spending money on migrant flights noting that the $12 million that was allocated in the florida budget, it violated the way that desantis did this violated the law. these migrants were in texas. now that you have migrants coming into florida from new york saying they're being solicited to come into the state, number one, is there any way to stop desantis from putting those people on flights during this horrific time when all the money i would think in the budget should be going toward remedying the pain and losses of floridians. is there any way to stop him from putting more people on flights and using that money to fly them out of the state? >> well, i think, joy, there's

two components to this. $12 million, there were two aspects, they had to be here in america illegally, and we know that all of these individuals were seeking asylum, political asylum from venezuela here legally going through the legal processes. that's one violation. two of those individuals were supposed to be in florida getting out of florida, so we saw the $12 million, and that's why the senator filed that lawsuit to make sure none of that money was going to be utilized. if they come here to florida, and if they are here illegally, there's no way to stop ron desantis. at this point, he's using the money appropriately, even though it nevada should have been allocated to begin with. if we are recruiting individuals coming to our state. i was talking to the agriculture industry that has extra h2a workers, agriculture was damaged during the hurricane. and so we have been asking the

department of labor to allow us to utilize migrant workers here in florida. so there's going to be a lot of unraveling of this, but, you know, ron likes to go on these soap boxes and likes to have these political games, and if it gets his attention and gets on to national media, until somebody tells him no, he's going to keep going. i want to note that nbc news reports this moving company they used that was getting their charter company that was used to fly immigrants out has contributed money to top folks in the republican party including matt gaetz and his former partner who's now the public safety czar in charge of immigration policy, larry keith, is there an internal investigation that will look into the connections between this private charter company and people like the congressman and your public safety czar? >> yeah, of course. there is -- it just glares into corruption every single way. the other part is they were supposed to have gotten two bits, that's part of any government contract, two bits,

that didn't even happen. now you're seeing that this plane, this airline that i think almost a million and a half dollars has now gone into their pockets has direct connections to a congressman in the panhandle, congressman gaetz as well as his -- and let's also not forget this too, larry keith is matt gaetz' law partner. before matt went to congress, and the amount of corruption and intertwining between all of these players needs to be investigated. we are just at the very beginning of trying to unravel all of this. thank you to all of the reporters out there who are doing their jobs. we have been unable to get records, so god bless anybody who's able to get records from ron desantis's administration. >> that's a lot to do when the top concern is trying to help the folks particularly in lee county in all of the areas that were so hard hit.

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life on florida's gulf coast. florida's unique city, cape coral, a new city built to meet the lifestyle of today and tomorrow. a legendary water front city where people come to play and where the fortunate come to stay. >> it was billed in the 1950s as florida's water front wonder lan. before that, cape coral simply did not exist. like many communities in the state, it was uninhabitable swampland, but a pair of brothers who got rich with antibaldness campaign, developed it into an extensive series of manmade dredge canals. cape coral was the next swindle, bill as a rich man's paradise in the financial reach of everyone. while sales boomed it was a planning disaster, beyond being

designed without water or sewer pipes or any other infrastructure, much of cape coral was built just a few feet of above sea level. in addition, the creation of this legendary city was ecologically destructive, tearing down most of the coastal man grove that had provided natural storm protection and draining, and paving wetlands that absorbed the area's flood waters. today, the city's 200,000 residents have paid the price. hurricane ian flooded nearly the entire city, and destroyed our damaged just about everything in its path. the entire city of cape coral was without power after the storm, 56% of lee county as a whole is still without electricity. its portable water system was temporarily shut down, and still remains precautionary city wide boil water notice. and yet, as columnist michael points out, not only is it still one of america's fastest growing cities, it's projected to remain

in the top five for decades to come. and joining me is michael grenwald, your piece inspired this segment. it caused me to google those old 1950s videos and i kind of bing watched them, and they're fascinating because they sort of sold lifestyle, and you would never know if you were coming from new york or chicago that you were moving on to manmade land that was basically in the sea. >> yeah, i think it's interesting. one of the secretaries for those developers you mentioned wrote a memoir called lies that came true. that's a good way of summing up the story of cape coral. it was preposterous, they were selling swampland, selling paradise, and at the time it was nothing but swamps, today it's 200,000 people and the fastest growing community in the united

states. so obviously they may not have been telling everybody about the dangers of paradise but for many people it did turn out to be paradise. >> and right now, this city, cape coral, it is the number one riskiest flood place. in 2020 it was ranked number one. it made the national top 15 for projected population growth at the same time, and one of the challenges is that a lot of people move. i moved to florida, you know, back in 1997. lived there for 14 years. the things you don't think about. i got to get hurricane insurance. as soon as you get down there, you know there are hurricanes, you need to be there for a while to understand you need flood insurance because so much of florida from the keys to cape coral is barely above sea water. it's feet above sea water. you can be in miami, just a good rain it will flood. how dangerous is it for developers to have free rein to build houses that attract people in these places where they're not doing the mitigation to make sure it's safe?

>> you can absolutely see the, you know, the bill has come due in cape coral. it's funny, when i wrote about the boom town that shouldn't exist, i wrote about babcock ranch, the ultimate sustainable city, just a half hour away, and it took a direct hit from ian, and didn't even lose power. it was built properly and it was elevated and built sustainably, and again, i think it's understandable that people move down here because it really is nice. turns out the winter is optional, and that's very alluring to come down here and pay, you know, no income taxes and you don't invest in the future, and then you get to feel like there are no consequences for your actions, but eventually, you know, mother nature bats last. >> ron desantis has been very angrily defensive, i guess is a good way to describe it when people ask him about the delay in the evacuation order. they waited even though their plan was if it's a 10%

probability of flooding, call for a mandatory evacuation. it was like a 40% chance and they didn't. what do you make of the fact that they didn't do a mandatory evacuation in a place that people that run the state have got to know is super vulnerable. >> yeah, i mean, it's really horrible, and you don't want to point too many fingers until you know all the facts. there's no doubt that there's a hesitation to tell people you've got to leave, right, because part of the whole desantis, and florida republicans that run the state. this is the free state of florida, don't tread on us. you can't tell us what to do. nobody is going to lecture you about wearing masks or taking vaccines or for that matter where you can build your house or how often you can water your lawn. people ought to understand who are so baffled by why this swing state has become a red state. they should understand that this is a very attractive division to

a lot of people, and eight of the nine fastest growing cities in florida are cities that voted for donald trump, but again, sometimes the cost of not planning for the future and not investing in the future, you can see it when the waters start to rise, and then of course the government turns to the feds to bail us out. >> to bail everyone out. and the last thing i will say, it's a state in many ways run by developers, they're allowed to build whatever they want where they want, and they're the ones experiencing the real freedom which is not always great for the people who wind up with these drowned homes and no coverage. then the feds have to sweep in. thank you very much, everybody should read his pieces. thank you. >> pleasure. legendary historian and fame maker henry louis gates is here with a sneak peek at his insightful new pbs series,

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veil. >> we're talking about different types of associations. there's a social type, fraternal, and intellectual organizations. >> how were each of you shaped by black social institutions? >> i grew up in african preschool, i didn't learn snow white and the seven dwarves. >> for centuries black americans have learned to create spaces of our own from local barbershops to hbus, ultimate act of resistance and survival. a pbs documentary celebrates those institutions from the hins hall masons in 1775, joining me now is henry louis gates jr., he's professor at -- and director of the hutchins center for african and african-american research at harvard university. it's always great to see you. i'm excited about this series. and i just have to let you sort

of go off and tell us like what will we learn over the course of watching it. this intro has me ready to sit down and binge the whole thing. >> it's so good to see you. thanks for having me on the show. i'm excited about the series. it's counter intuitive, really. what did black people do, what did our ancestors do. when the color curtain of white supremacy came crashing down. to judge hollywood and popular culture, all we did was silt around and talk about white people and be obsessed about white supremacy, and of course, we fought against racism in all of its pernicious forms. but you can't do that 24 hours a day. you have to live. you have to be a human being. people fall in love, you know, they grow old, and they have kids. what do you do? how do you protect your sanity? how do you protect your self-esteem, you replicate the world, joy, from which you were excluded. that's what our jewish brothers

and sisters did, like going to the cat skills, we didn't go to the cat skills, we went to highland park, sag harbor and the ink well on martha's vineyard. we did that starting a year and a day before the signing of the declaration of independence. the prince hall masons right here in boston, massachusetts, and we've done it all the way up to black twitter. so i wanted to as dubois put it, lift the veil on this world. in "men in black" they're looking for the lost world and the clue is it's on orion's collar and it turns out that whole world had been miniatureized around that siamese cat there in front of him. that's what i feel about life behind the veil, you and i know it but the larger society doesn't know it. who knew that the african grove theater founded in now grandish village in 1821 was producing

richard iii, you know. >> yes. >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> some of the people who you sat with during this great series, angela davis, charles globe, our colleague here, andre holland, one of the people that you, but i want to play right now is somebody who is an icon for me, it's the reason i ever wanted to be a writer. and it's somebody who was somehow become controversial in our culture. i want to play him, and this is tony morrison. >> black women had been writing novels, since the 19th century. we have always turned fictional life stories to try to tell our truth. but i think we can all agree that mother tony morrison is something decidedly different. and she is different, in part because, as she said many times, she didn't feel diminished by being a black woman writer. she understood her blackness as a thing that expanded the kinds

of stories that she told. what is this black, as a beautiful thing, really mean in the day today? it's a very question that she asks. >> i wonder how you feel, as an historian, and somebody was documented the life of black folks in this country, how it takes you that suddenly, that's who people have decided to band, that they've decided to demonize. johnny morrison basically was used for the virginia governor, republican governor, to win an election, by demonizing her. >> yeah, well, in any form, in any color, that's equally disgusting. and why anybody would ban -- tony morrison is one of the greatest novelists in the history of the novel for. you know, when we think of the great novelists in the world, there is william faulkner, there is gabriel marquez, there's tony morrison. virginia wolf. tony morrison was the genius, and the fact that anybody who

doesn't understand the nature of literature itself, because she delved into the black experience in order to come out the other side. in the same way that any artists does. jane joyce wrote about the 24 hours in the life of the jewish man in dublin, but it's about the human condition, you know. shakespeare, a prince in denmark, give me a break. is that what it's all about? no, it's about the human condition, and that is what tony morrison, she stood to fight against any buddy who tried to demonize her. because she's the queen. when she won the nobel prize, i was a guest -- and that was one of the greatest events of my whole life to see that sister raised. so, i'm a huge tony fan, i teacher every year. >> i'm fairly jealous about that story. she was such an icon. and the last i have to ask you, you wrote it to black twitter. because the creation of the

black formality, which i'm obsessed with, the way we dress, you know, we go to church, and we might as well be going to, you know, the royal ball. we know that we're always dressed, we're always put together, but this idea of black twitter is a unique, unique thing. you deal with that? >> yeah, because, it makes the series go full circle, excuse me. our aim was to define, by john adams, right out of the battles of concord, and this is what he said. i got this book especially for you. it's from his diary, 70 75, a few months after the battle of lexington concord, he said these negroes, he said, have a wonderful way of communicating intelligence among themselves. it will run several hundreds of miles in a week or fortnite. and by 1901, bookie wise had been freed from slavery, and he is talking about his mother and the other enslaved people on the plantation. he knew about slavery, and he goes, these discussions showed

that they understood the situation. and they kept themselves informed of the events by what was termed in the grapevine telegraph. and all black twitter is telegraph on steroids. we have been the same people since before the american revolution. and we have been in communication with, and we have to communicate with each other. we had to stand by each other all the time, but we had to communicate with each other also, in order to protect ourselves from the oppressive. and that's what gave us our dignity and self esteem. when you are being trashed in the white world, you would be called misread, my grandmother, and in the church, and in the order of the eastern star, or whatever, you know? that's where we kept our sanity. >> absolutely. >> and that's what we're celebrating in the series. >> i can't wait to watch it. , i was gonna call you reverend

doc, henry louis gates, thank you very much. we look forward to watch the series. we will post that on our social media. thank you. we'll be right back. >> thank you, and let me say how proud i -- >> thank you, and let me say how proud i -- am

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way back to washington, after a trip to puerto rico today, after almost two weeks since hurricane fiona ravaged the island. the president and first lady spent the day meeting with families and community leaders, and packing bags of food and other essential items. the paper towels were thrown along the way. it comes as thousands of puerto ricans are still without power. at least 25 have died. the president also announced more than $60 million in funding for the island's recovery. that money comes directly from the infrastructure law he signed last year. it will be used to short levees, strengthen floodwaters, and wait a new flood warning system to prepare for future storms. biden also acknowledged previous shortcomings and providing aid to puerto rico, specifically after hurricane maria in 2017. >> after maria, congress approved billions of dollars to puerto rico, much we intended

to get here initially. we're gonna make sure you get every single dollar promised. we are determined to build puerto rico faster than in the past, and stronger and better prepare for the future. the >> president also said to visit the fort myers area in florida on wednesday, to survey the damage from hurricane ian. that is tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts now. now. >> tonight on all in -- >> the seditious conspiracy trial begins. >> so the world who the traders are, and then, using the insurrection act to drop the hammer on them. >> tonight, how prosecutors thought to prove the insurrection act, with just legal cover for a coup. my tape with defendant -- plus, new evidence of a keeper communications with roger stone. then, the operative who pulled off desantis migrant stunt is unmasked. the new york times reporter who revealed