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threw them back into the ocean not knowing that starfish regenerate. the population explode and devastated the fishing economy. the moral of the story being when you try to fix a problem you don't understand, you usually make it worse. this film tries to understand these men, who they are on a human level, and kind of dives into their different motivations, their backgrounds, and kind of like the experience they had both in gaughan tan gu before. for me, what's been really kind of inspiring is a lot of the reactions we have gotten from the few people who were able to see it during sundance, and a lot of those people surprisingly were from the vet company, a lot of vets from afghanistan and iraq, have reached out and sent emails and messages saying they've watched or this film has been one of the more healing things they've seen. one vet wrote me and said, you know, when i got back to the
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united states, i would never admit this to anyone, but i missed war, i didn't miss fighting, i missed the camaraderie, i missed the brotherhood, i missed the sense of purpose, and i haven't found that since i've been back. but when i saw your film, it was the first time that i saw that, and it was really shocking to me because these were the people i was sent to kill. and he said to me, like, i realize that i had more in common with the men that i was fighting than the men that sent me to war. >> wow. >> and i thought that was really profound to hear. that's why i think this film is so important, especially when i get messages like that, messages from the yemeni community who are saying we see the news talk about syria and ukraine but yemen is continually ignored and seeing our people and some of the issues we've had to deal with in your film has meant a lot. it's rally interesting to have those two groups respond to this film. that's why for me it's so important it gets out there. that's just been really hard
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with all these attacks. >> meg, it did, even more background given that she talks about the five years of work she put into this, but she was a 21-year-old firefighter when the planes struck the world trade center. she went to afghanistan, she traveled through the country, hitchhiked through the country, learned arabic, and, you know, i mean the creation of the film is total immersion on her part to create that better understanding. >> right. and, michael, how fascinating the critics so simple minded and in fact you talk about how i think at film festival in nz nlz -- new zealand decide stod to screen it and some critics from l.a. were trying to get them to cancel her all across the world in new zealand. >> yeah. the reaction to the film from some of the fiercest critics is
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fierce. and, you know, yes, and that continued even after my article appeared. if anything, maybe with rejoined fury. and, you know, there's also this -- they raise this sort of series of questions. so one of the principal questions was that of identity, right, as who is this woman to be making this documentary. but then, you know, they go on to say, well, people who are incarcerated can't give their permission to be interviewed, which is an interesting thought for any journalist or documentarian. of course many great documentaries having been made on people who are in prison. you get arguments that, you know, some of the former guantanamo bay prisoners have opposed this film.
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it's sort of a frankly a moving target, an ever-moving target, and you're told, well, no, no, no, that isn't the question, this is the question, this is the question. >> the film is "the unredacted." documentary filmmaker meg smaker, thank you. "new york times" reporter michael powell, thank you as well. fascinating controversy. people should make their own decision as to whether they want to see it. >> it's a remarkable doc. again, there will be people that might be upset on different sides, but that's what great art does -- >> exactly. >> -- is it puts the information out in front of you and lets you make your decision. but the fact she was canceled is just ridiculous. >> we are just a few minutes past the top of the hour right now, 6:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. on the east coast. in this hour, we are following the major victories for the ukrainian military after months of incremental gains, now forcing the russians to retreat
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from nearly the entire northeastern kharkiv region. as "the washington post" puts it, "ukraine's victory will remain symbolic for the message it sent to the kremlin. putin's annexation of the partly occupied regions was a farce." plus, the most high-profile trial yet connected to the capitol attack, as the justice department accuses the oath keepers of plotting an armed rebellion to keep donald trump in power. we'll get a live report from a courthouse in washington, d.c., as day two of the trial is set to begin. willie? in florida, the death toll from ian is rising as the search for survivors continues. according to the latest nbc news tally, at least 100 people have been confirmed dead in the state. more than half of those deaths were in florida's lee county, one of the hardest hit areas, where the sheriff's office yesterday said the number of people killed had risen to 54.
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joining us now live from ft. myers beach, florida, nbc news correspondent jesse kearse. you've had access to one of the hardest hit places yesterday. what did you see there? >> reporter: yeah, willie. we saw more of what we saw in ft. myers beach. this is a boat that has beens toed over. gives you the idea of the scale of devastation here. we got an up-close, rare look at sanibel island itself yesterday to see what has been done on that island. by water, we were able to see up close those images we've seen from overhead for days. the causeway wiped out, watercoursing through. once on the island, we were kept close to the docks by police, but we did see equipment being brought ashore by at&t. they had to use a small barge to get this equipment to land, and then once they made it to the docks, you could see that they had to improvise a ramp that
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they built by hand, essentially, to tug this vehicle onto land. that just speaks to the serious challenges right now to be able to rebuild infrastructure, what it is taking to get these islands back up to speed. obviously, there's a long road of recovery and cleanup ahead in these communities. we also saw more of the same along the way there. a boat up in the tree line. we saw houses with damage. we saw a dock that was mangled and twisted and we were climbing over it as if it were some kind of jungle gym. that is what we are seeing throughout this area and it speaks to the devastation on top of all the heartbreak we've been hearing about, mika. >> so, jesse, do the officials there that you spoke to, do they suspect there are still people trapped, still people who need to be rescued on sanibel island? or are they pretty confident they found everybody and ferried them away from the island so they can begin the cleanup? >> reporter: frankly, willie, we
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don't know that much about what's going on at sanibel island. we went over for a remarkable reunion and they were collecting things to celebrate yom kippur. when we got to the island, they were able to move onward, but police say we had to stay at the docks. they made it clear if we went further inland, we would be escorted off the island. clearly they're trying to keep some kind of seal on what is going on there. obviously, these are sensitive operations. we know search and rescue is ongoing. what we're seeing here and throughout the area is these piles of debris are not going to make it easy to spot people who might be in need of help. these are clearly deliberate operations that are going to be taking a lot of time. >> stunning to see those boats stacked up like toys there on dry land. jesse kirsch, thank you. a new development in the
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mar-a-lago documents case. "the washington post" reports former president donald trump asked one of his lawyers in early 2022 to tell the national archives that trump had returned all materials requested by the agency. but that lawyer, alex cannon, declined to do so because he was not sure if that claim was true. that's according to people familiar with the matter. >> they're telling this lawyer to say something to the federal government that's a lie. and of course i guess because he wants to keep practicing. >> maybe he wants to keep his license. >> i guess he decides to tell the truth. or at least refuse to repeat the die that donald trump and his people around him wanted him to tell the government. >> yeah. interesting, even alex cannon, who is a trump loyalist and has been an attorney there in the trump organization for a long time, let it be known, whether directly or through sources to "the washington post," that he
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tried to tell donald trump no, you cannot do this. people in that mode trying to save themselves from prosecution, perhaps. opening statements began yesterday in the highest profile trial to date related to the january 6th attack on the capitol. oath keepers founders, stewart rhodes and four other members of that militia group are accused of plotting an armed rebellion to block the peaceful transfer of power. the justice department alleges the group stockpiled guns just outside of washington so they could bring them into the city at a moment's notice. the lawyer for rhodes claimed they filed d.c.'s strict gun laws and would have only used force if trump announced the act which they believed would have allowed them to come to his aid. ryan reilly is outside the courthouse in washington, d.c. you've been following this for years, this story of the oath keepers in the days up to january 6th and on that day. how is this trial going to play
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out? >> reporter: well, you know, the biggest surprise that prosecutors had yesterday was these recordings of stewart rhodes after january 6th. we've seen a lot of text messages. they were having encrypted chats back and forth leading up to january 6th. what happened afterwards was there was a recording on january 10th, where someone who was concerned with what happened and what stewart rhodes was saying as there was a plan for something to happen going forward to still stop the peaceful transfer of power and they recorded rhodes. his defense now is we were just waiting on trump's order. nothing would have happened without trump's order. these folk who is went inside the capitol did so under their own volition, not my orders. but in a different story, he says he wishes they would have brought guns to the capitol on
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january 6th and taken care of it then and there. records say even if he had invoked this, they would have moved forward. they wanted donald trump to do something but they planned to move forward regardless of what trump said is what prosecutors are alleging, willie. >> i'm curious, ryan, obviously, you have reported meticulously on how this investigation by the justice department, fbi, the largest in u.s. history, they just continue to find the perpetrators and continue to try them. i'm wondering, though, for this particular case, how high are the stakes for the doj? is this their most important case? >> reporter: this is definitely their most important case. this is the biggest one and the biggest challenge. frankly, when i cover a lot of these trials you sometimes wonder why they bother. a plea deal would have been a much better option for a lot of these defendants. in this case, there is a little
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bit of nuance. this isn't the slam dunk we see in the other cases. there's lot of evidence for sure, but i think it's not outside the realm of possibility we end on a mixed verdict here. there is -- it's -- this idea of having these seditious conspiracy charges are very difficult. that's a high standard they have to meet here. it's not necessarily something that is tough -- it's difficult to prove, a high standard for them, one of the toughest cases they've had yet. we'll see how it ends up landing with the jury. >> i understand it's been 30 years since the justice department has a conviction for seditious conspiracy? >> reporter: that's right. they tried this in 2012, and it actually pretty much failed. there's a lot more evidence in this case. and certainly if you're not going to use seditious conspiracy charges for an i tack on the u.s. capitol, when are you going to use it, right? >> that's right. >> reporter: it was a much
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different scenario in that 2012 case which involved the militia in michigan, where that was a plot, a contingent plot to attack police officers. we're in a much different situation here. we have an invasion of the u.s. capitol. so it's a little bit of nuance in this case about whether or not there was this active plan to go into the capitol on january 6th ahead of time. i think we're still going to have to see how much evidence prosecutors can turn up with that. and certainly i think it's going to be interesting to see this tension between stewart rhodes and the other defendants because he's essentially throwing these other folks under the bus and said they went in on their own, it wasn't me. of course he celebrates that afterwards and that evening went to olive garden to celebrate the attack on the u.s. capitol. it will be interesting to see how this evidence plays out over the course of the trial which will last five or six weeks here. >> nbc's ryan reilly, thank you very much for your reporting this morning. let's turn to ukraine, where we are following major breakthroughs on the front lines
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against russia with ukrainian forces making new advances in the southern kherson region. nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin has the latest from ukraine. >> reporter: this morning, the bodies of russian soldiers litzering the streets of the newly lib reckless endangermented town of lyman as ukrainian forces count the spoils of their victories. armored vehicles and ammunition left behind by fleeing russian troops. >> now this machine will work for our armed forces. >> reporter: in the southern region of kherson, a russian official insists all is calm. but in a village nearby, ukrainian soldiers raise their country's flag. a long awaited breakthrough in a bloody battle that's been raging for weeks. russian state tv warning its viewers should not be expecting good news as russia struggles to mobilize additional forces with a draft that sent many men fleeing the country.
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in his evening address, the ukrainian president pointed to the growing understanding that russia made a mistake by starting this war. meanwhile, billionaire elon musk tweeting his own solicited peace plan to end russia's war in ukraine, asking his more than 100 million twitter followers to vote it, president zelenskyy asking his citizens which elon musk they like more, one who supports ukraine or the one who supports russia. the cost of russian aggression climbs. nikolai was traveling in a convoy of civilians trying to escape russian-occupied towns when they came under fire, killing 24, including a pregnant woman. he says he was shot in the leg trying to escape. his son died while driving the lead car. his head fell on the steering wheel of the car, he says, but he managed to press the brake and stop the vehicle. when i saw his car, it was on
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fire. only one girl managed to escape. because your son was able to hit that brake, he was a hero. "yes. what else is there to say." >> erin mclaughlin reporting from ukraine. retired brigadier general peter swack. four days ago vladimir putin was holding a victory celebration saying we've annexed these four regions of ukraine, they are ours forever. since then all we've seen is ukrainians rolling into those territories, taking towns with relative ease. what do you make of what you're seeing right now? >> it's extraordinary, and, yeah, putin is having to rework his words. he talked of the four regions being forever part of russia.
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let's put this into context. seven months ago, many of us thought that how long was it going to be before they take kyiv, the capital. then russians half a year ago were swept from kyiv. then we learned a month ago they were swept from the grounds and region around kharkiv. now the offensive is moving towards lyman and crashing, moving into donetsk and into the rest of luhansk province, another of the four provinces supposedly forever part of russia. in all of this, you have now after a tough fight, the ukrainians beginning to scratch back, claw back, fight back in
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this strategic south, which is increasingly i think going to be the critical fight as donetsk and luhansk are still in play, the aspirations of connecting russia through ukraine on the black sea, odesa, and all of that is going on now too. >> yeah. so, general, we saw ukraine make advances in the east, dramatic advances in the east, putin followed that by pushing sham elections. now we see ukraine's advances accelerating not only the east but the south. what's putin's response now? more nuclear blackmail? should we not expect some moves for him to send a signal to the west regarding the possible use of nuclear weapons?
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>> it could be all of that. i think that the mood in the kremlin is increasingly a siege mentality. m looks to have completely blown back. and the mainstream population really want to support their regime, their government, so, yes, i think that how do you regain the initiative where on every front the russians are being pushed back militarily, diplomatically, economically. so, you have nuclear extortion, the threat of so-called escalate/de-escalate, you know,
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risking attacks of a nuclear warhead or more. i don't think they'll go that way, but it is highly -- it is possible now. and the narrative is that it is increasingly possible. we have to take it seriously. one other point. the russians go into tactical nukes militarily in the ground where the fighting is. it has been brought out really good reporting, they'll suffer -- horrible for the ukrainians, the russian militarily with their incompetence would not be able to survive and fight in a nuclear battlefield of today from what we've seen. it's very dangerous, joe. right now it shouldn't go that way, but it looks like the whole project of annexations and to basically decapitate ukraine as a free nation is failing and they've got to turn the ship somehow. >> right. you look at the top of "the new york times," general, and you
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actually have david sanger, william broad's story, "the risk for putin as he rattles nuclear sabre and u.s. tries to anticipate the unthinkable, for all his threats to fire tactical nuclear arms at ukraine targets, putin is now discovering what the united states itself concluded years ago, that small nuclear weapons are hard to use, harder to control, and a far better weapon of terror and intimidation than a weapon of war." general, thank you so much for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. >> peter zwack, thank you very much. he's got it right there. all right. coming up, the markets are set to open in just a few minutes, and it's a lot of attention being paid to credit suisse as the major bank faces serious financial issues. andrew ross sorkin standing by to explain that. and why kim kardashian is
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a very threat to our very democracy. they refuse to accept the will of the people. they embrace, embrace, political violence. they don't believe in democracy. equality and democracy are under assault. we do ourselves no favor to pretend otherwise. too much of what's happening in our country today is not normal. donald trump and the maga republicans remit an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. >> president biden warning what he says could be in store if republicans win in the midterm elections. joining us now, national
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reporter for "the washington post," yasmin aboutaleb. her latest article "apocalypse now: democrats embrace a dark midterm message." good to see you. it seems watching and talking to people that the messaging changed somewhere around the time of the dobbs decision of the overturning of roe v. wade with democrats said we have an issue to run on now. >> i think that's right. before that, republicans were outperforming in special elections, predicting a big red wave in the fall, then of course the dobbs decision changed all of that. the big turning point that made hem realize how much momentum they might have behind the decision was the kansas referendum in august. i think that was eye opening for them in this deep red state you had record voter turnout and an off-season election that women all over the country have been
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registering to vote in record numbers. i think they saw this as probably their most potent line of attack in all sorts of races that are in liberal auto conclaves, so you've seen this in every democratic race. >> obviously midterm elections are about the party in power. what's fascinating, however, is over the past month you've seen very conservative people coming out echoing mitch mcconnell, the more donald trump is out there and makes it about himself, the less it's about biden, the less it's about inflation, the less it's about afghanistan. talk about how this message, this dark message puts the democrats in a position where -- because trump is out there every day and because he's pushing himself out there every day, they're almost like a resistance even though the resistance party
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even though they control the white house, the senate, and the house. >> it's been an extremely unusual midterm election. it is still a referendum on joe biden. i don't want to say it's his record and inflation and crime are all not part of the election, but because donald trump has been so prominent in the news for the last several months between the january 6th hearings and investigation and his role in the capitol attack and of course the fbi search of his home, democrats feel like they have succeeded in making this a referendum on trump even though he is not in power. trump has put republicans in a position where they're having to defend him, a lot are trying to step away from it. he endorsed a lot of candidates who will be running in general elections now who have embraced his lie that the 2020 election was stolen and we're trying to move away from that. you see candidates all over the country from ads and stump speeches tying republicans to donald trump, well aware that he is still the leader of the
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republican party but also kind of toxic in many ways, especially in these tight races. >> he really is. mika, you look at what's happened, you had before dobbs. >> right. >> before the leaked dobbs decision. you had the democrats in disarray for good reason. inflation going up. gals prices going up. and, again, it was going to be a referendum on joe biden. in the 30s, his approval rating. and after dobbs and after trump is put back into the spotlight, with mar-a-lago and the documents, suddenly democrats felt the wind at their back, republicans were concerned, sort of balancing back now. republicans are starting to feel really good about nevada. they were feeling better about georgia until this morning. >> oh, my gold. >> we'll see how that plays out. >> yeah. >> but, you know, brings up a great point, yasmeen, this is still at the end of the day unless it's a bizarre year, a
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referendum on joe biden, a referendum on inflation, a referendum on afghanistan, a referendum on the party in power. that's what happens every two years. and, boy, it really would be historical if instead it was a referendum on the last president. >> well, it would be an earthquake. national reporter for "the washington post," yasmeen abutaleb, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. we appreciate it. up next, kim kardashian was fined over a million dollars by the s.e.c. cnbc's andrew ross sorkin says the case isn't as clear cut as the agency would like you to believe. andrew joins us next on "morning joe." trelegy for copd. [coughing] ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪
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securities & exchange commission over her promotion of a cryptocurrency. >> right on top here. >> federal regulators are keeping up with kim kardashian and apparently her social media, charging her with unlawfully touting crypto on her instagram. in 2021, she wrote to her 225 million followers at the time, this is not financial advice but sharing what my friends just told me about the ethereum max token, which, like many cryptocurrencies, has since plunged in value. at the bottom of the post, she wrote #add. but the securities & exchange commission says that doesn't go far enough and she needed to disclose how much she was being paid to post, $250,000. >> we really need to know the nature, the source, and the amount of compensation because investing, that's about one's future, that's about one's retirement. >> reporter: while kardashian did not admit wrongdoing, the influencer reportedly worth
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nearly $2 billion agreed to pay nearly $1.3 million and not to promote any crypto assets for three years. in a statement obtained by nbc news, her attorney says in part, "she wanted to get this matter behind her to avoid a protracted dispute. the agreement she reached with the s.e.c. allows her to do that so that she can move forward with her many different business pursuits." kardashian isn't the first celebrity to get into hot water for what and how they're promoting products. floyd may weather, d.j. talon and actor steven segal also fined by the s.e.c. for how they promoted cryptocurrency. and crackdowns aren't limbed to investing. the federal trade commission warned artists like cardi b. and jordin sparks they must divulge connections when promoting products. what should consumers keep in mind scrolling through social media? >> be cautious about somebody trying to say there's some get
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rich quick opportunity, or if they're just touting something, do your independent research. >> emily aquetta reporting there. joining us now, to anchor of cnbc's "sqawk box," andrew ross sorkin. as emily alluded to, kim kardashian is hardly alone among celebrities promoting specifically cryptocurrencies. we've seen the tv commercials and promoting it online. what are the implications of this settlement? >> i'm curious what you think about this. it's not that clear-cut. this was a shot across the bow by the s.e.c. using kim kardashian as an example, which of course is blanketing the air waichs and so many different newspapers this morning to effectively tell the influencer and actors and models and everybody else basically don't promote crypto and if you do, here are all the disclosure rules. however, there's a selective enforcement system going on. in her case as the report mentioned, here she is clearly putting #add on it. we can have a debate about
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whether crypto currency or she or anybody else should be promoting these things to begin with, but when you look at it, the intent was not to deceive people into believing that somehow it was not an advertisement, and the truth is so much of what we now see on social media is an advertisement and never listed as such. in fact, interesting, and this is why the rules are so convoluted, you know, if you own ethereum and went on to twitter or instagram or whatever and said, hey, i think, you know, ethereum is a great cryptocurrency, guess what? you don't have -- and you don't put "ad" on it or anything, you don't have to say you own it or how much you would stand to make because of it, be, because of the strange rules, not saying the rules are wrong, but the problem is that it's so selectively enforced, and the rules themselves are so selective that we haven't really figured out how to solve the ultimate problem, which is i think trying to disclose to the public exactly where everybody's
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coming from. and i would argue to you this morning that at least in kim kardashian's case, there was a better sense of what she was doing in that instance than in most of the instances that we see on social media and where else. >> i was going to say, andrew, this seems -- i mean, selectiven forcement seems like a very polite characterization of what's going on here. for somebody to suggest that a consumer would go on kim kardashian's instagram account and not know that what she was doing might be an advertisement when she -- everybody knows this -- she's revolutionized -- >> that's what she does. she advertises her brands. >> she's revolutionized instagram. you have people working out of their garages across america because of that. there's no way that somebody that saw this didn't know that,
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first of all, it was most likely an ad, and also, i'm sorry, but like, let's name all the other celebrities that have done the same thing. >> right. >> so, again, listen, i never trusted cryptocurrency, and i've always said that. at the same time, everybody was advertising it. so why the selective enforcement here? like let's get the biggest fish? >> that's what they're trying to do. it may be that we see a whole raft of other cases that are brought against celebrities. interestingly, you know, i think famously we all know matt damon during the super bowl or tom brady advertising, ftx, and this goes to the interesting rules, those are considered exchanges rather than a specific cryptocurrency or security, which is what the s.e.c. regulates. so they wouldn't fall under these rules. so part of the challenge here is just that the rules are so very
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different across the board. >> and real quickly, what's going on with credit suisse? >> you have to watch credit suisse because i think over the weekend there was a real worry that this would be a lehman moment. think back to 2018 and a bank potentially failing. good news is it doesn't appear to be the case that this is going to be a bank, at least as of now, that is truly troubled, though it is a bank that is in the middle of a restructuring and has a lot of people worried in europe. but perhaps more importantly, you're seeing the stock market up today. one of the things that people are looking at is the fact actually that the economy, both in the u.s. and across the world, has now become so fearful, frankly, about worries about banks and contagion and all sorts of problems in the economy that maybe the federal reserve, which has been trying as we've talked so many times about, to make it worse, to try to tamp down inflation, may actually ease up a little bit and say, okay, maybe we don't want to make it worse because
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it's bad enough. and that perversely is moving the stock market higher today. >> all right. cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, wow, a political story in georgia that was already brewing as a potential scandal. now republican senate herschel walker's son, christian walker, has just put out a video seemingly blowing the lid off his father's campaign, saying it is all based on lies. >> and the reaction out of georgia among republicans also pretty fierce. you actually have some georgia republicans saying this could be a knockout blow for herschel walker. the national review writing this morning about how this is deeply troubling and this is what happens when you get the untested senate candidates that donald trump pushed to the front of the line.
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>> this video is powerful. we'll show it to you. >> many republicans very concerned that donald trump is going to help georgians lose yet another senate race. we'll. right back. ck if you really wanna find out what you're made of, you can forget the personality tests and social media quizzes. because the only way you're ever gonna know is by heading into the big, wild, raging so-damned-beautiful- it-hurts world and finding out for yourself.
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the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon. but what about the new boss? it looks so good it makes me hangry! settle down there, big guy the new subway series. what's your pick? breaking political news out of georgia this morning. actually it started yesterday. and news that eric ericson, a conservative out of georgia, said would probably be a knockout blow for herschel walker's senate campaign. this morning you have "the national review" writing an article, a personal foul on herschel walker. jim garrity, said "all republicans needed to do to win big this midterm cycle was to be normal. apparently, that was too much to ask." >> the former university of georgia nfl running back, now the republican nominee for georgia senate, herschel walker, says he wants to completely ban
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abortion, likening it to murder and claiming there should be no exceptions for rape, incest, or life of the mother. but "the daily beast" reports walker urged a woman who asked not to be identified because of privacy concerns, have an abortion after she became pregnancy pregnant with his child when they were dating in 2009. the woman said she had the procedure and that walker reimbursed her for it. according to the daily beast, she supported the claims with a $575 receipt from the abortion clinic, a get well card from walker, and a bank deposit receipt that included an image of a signed $700 personal check from walker. "the daily beast" independently corroborated details of the claims with a close friend. she told at the time and who according to the woman and the friend took care of her in the days after the procedure. a lawyer representing walker's
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campaign told the publication the story was false. walker also released a statement calling the story a lie and threatening to sue "the daily beast" for defamation. nbc news has not verified the allegations or reviewed the documents. hours after the story broke, walker's blasted his father's wid for a georgia senate seat calling him a bad father, a liar, and a hypocrite. in a series of tweets, christian walker wrote, every family member of herschel walker asked him not to run for office because we all knew some of his past, every single one, he decided to give us the middle finger and air out all of his dirty laundry in public while simultaneously lying about it. i'm done. i don't care about someone who has a bad past and takes accountability, but how dare you lie and act as though you're some moral, christian, upright man. you have lived a life of
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destroying other people's lives. how dare you. and just moments ago, christian walker posted this new video. take a look. >> i stayed silent as the astrosties committed against my monl were down played. my father had all these random kids across the country. none of whom he raised. and you know my favorite issue to talk about is father absence. surprise. because it affected me. that's why i talk about it all the time. because it affected me. family the values, people. he has four kids, four different women, wasn't in the house raising one of them. he was out having sex with other women. do you care about family values? lie, after lie after lie, the abortion card drops yesterday. it's his handwriting in the card. he gets on twitter ask i lies about it. i'm done. done. everything has been a lie. so for the right to say i'm
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being suspicious for saying, hey, i'm done with the lies when you all have been calling me saying is this true about your dad, we're not going to win georgia. that's been you. you have no idea what i have been through in my life. you have no idea what me and my mom have survived. we could have ended this on day one. we haven't. i haven't told any stories. i'm just saying don't lie. don't lie on my mom. don't lie on me. don't lie on the lives you have destroyed and act like you're some moral family man. y'all should care about that. and for people on the left to act as though i'm responsible for all of the things that he has done, i have talked about father issues because they have been close to me. because they matter to me. because i went through it. that's why i have talked about it. so when you say talk about your dad. i am. i'm saying this behavior is atrocious. don't come for me. you don't have to like me. i'm just saying i'm done with the lies. we were told at the beginning of this he was going to get ahead of his past, hold himself accountable and that would have
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been fine, go ahead. he didn't do any of that. everything has been a lie. everything has been down played and cutting corners. the whole thing. and who whose expense is that at? me and my mom as we're chased down by the media, we're terrorized, all these different things. people are questioning my authenticity. don't lie. don't put this on me. this is a candidate issue. not a me issue. i wouldn't have spoken out if there weren't all these lies every day. >> that's christian walker, herschel walker's sonin a video posted moments ago. let's bring in on the phone greg bluestien. when this broke overnight and your new piece this morning, you have anonymous republicans smearing christian walker. this morning you have other republicans saying maybe all this is is true, but herschel walker is better for the country than raphael warnock. known about the allegations of
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volence for a long time. severe violence from his ex-wife of 20 years. we have learned in recent months about the three children he doesn't acknowledge and didn't make public. does this, though, from his own son and the hypocrisy of paying for an abortion, according to "the daily beast," when being pro life to the extent you won't allow portions to save the life of the mother, does this hit herschel walker? >> this hits herschel walker. this could be the most dire threat to his campaign so far. we always knew the threat of an unpredictable nominee whose campaign could buckle under the weight of the a controversial past and problems on the campaign trail could end in disaster. but this is a different sort of challenge he's ever faced before. they can't just paper over this. his own adult son is out there. we just heard him saying his father is full of lies and an embarrassment to the family, and he ran despite his own warnings
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for him not to run. it's hard for him to overcome this. he might still get a base of 45% of the vote, but even before this, we were already talking bt a split ticket where a number of supporters saying they could not vote for herschel walker. they were either going to skip the vote or vote for a libertarian. it's hard to imagine that number not growing after these allegations. >> you had said that predictably some party hacks attacked herschel walker's son for saying what many of them know to be true. many many of them were actually calling him, asking him if all the stories were true. i'm wondering, we heard eric ericson talking about how this all might be be a knockout blow for the senate candidate. are you hearing that off the record from other georgia
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republicans who don't want to be quoted, who were burned by how donald trump cost them, they believe, two senate seats in 2020? >> for sure. eric ericson was putting a voice to what many republican officials are saying privately. they are not counting herschel walker out. he's survived other scandals so far. he's survived a number of issues that would have ended campaigns for so many other candidates from georgia. even starting with lying about graduating from the university of georgia. which he never did but said on the campaign trail, or lying about serving in law enforcement. all those issues might have brought down any other candidate. they are not counting him out. he needs a very strong defense. it's unlikely we're going to see're statewide candidates rally with herschel walker standby him. they might not say anything directly about the candidacy right now.
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>> reporter for the atlanta journal constitution, greg, thank you for calling us at the last minute as we're dealing with this breaking political news. we'll have much more on this tomorrow. we'll see how this plays out. again, the son of herschel walker releasing a damning video about his father's campaign all being based on lies. that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage in 90 seconds. econds quality healthcare goes beyond prescriptions and procedures. it's about making people feel ca no one knows that better than physician associates because we don't just see patien we see you. a one-of-a-kind person with one-of-a-kind needs. and we'll never stop going beyon to deliver the care you deserve.
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