good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. right now, multiple court battles are unfolding. cases that go directly to the heart of this country's character and what it stands for. in washington, the trial of five members of the antigovernment group the oath keepers began with the prosecution using the defendant's own words against them as they allegedly tried to con contact a rebellion to keep president biden from taking power. in the supreme court, arguments have begun over a voting map in alabama. the naacp claiming it's a tool of racial discrimination designed specifically to diminish the black vote. a lower court agreed with that, but with the high court yet to weigh in, the dissputed map is still official. meaning it is the one that will

be used in next month's midterm elections. and finally, huge parts of florida and the southeast still struggling to get back on their feet after hurricane ian. no doubt it will take months, if not years in some places. check out these pictures from yesterday in orlando. 107 people have been confirmed dead, more than 2rkz 300 have had to be rescued. for many survivors a big problem is lack of electricity. more than 400,000 floridians still without power nearly a week after the storm. we start today with that dramatic oath keepers trial. i want to bring in justice reporter ryan riley who are is outside the u.s. district court in d.c. civil rights attorney, former

prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. so take us inside the courtroom. how is the the prosecution making its case. fds. >> what you have here is testimony from an fbi special agent who was there on january 6th and helped escort senators back to the senate on that evening. but you have this breakdown of this go-to meeting, a virtual meeting that happened in november of 2020 directly after the 2020 election in which this plot started to take form. there are 103 oath keepers on that call from that initial call. talking about what they need to do. and mentions ironically enough he thinks the finn fbi is probably listening into the call. but he talks about essentially they have to be careful about their words. fds they have to be deliberate because they don't want to get themselves in legal jeopardy. he says in one of the call that the insurrection act is going to be covered.

and then all of their actions are going to be that was the basis for that. in one of these calls, he says that's just legal cover for what they have to do. in other calls, rhodes is saying this plan is going forward with or without donald trump, depending on they want to have him -- they want to give him the ability to invoke the insurrection act to stop the peaceful transfer of power, but they are going to go ahead with this even if he doesn't do anything. >> thank you so much for that reporting. but charles just from that reporting, it sounds like they contradicted their own defense and have it on tape. >> prosecutors are doing what you're supposed to do with the case like this. because they weren't able to complete the act, the notion of intent rings paramount. they are trying to establish the attempt. and using their words directly

to actually show what it is they were trying to do. it's what they have to do to get a conviction. you hurt yourself when you have already laid out what it is you're trying to do, but then try to use their defense as legal cover when you have already been on tape saying that's legal cover. so the fact that they have laid that out and put their words, the actual defendant's words behind these actions make it is apparent that this is what they intended to do and this is why they are looking at a conviction. >> there was this encrypted message that prosecutors used in the opening argument. and stew ward rhodes is saying, we aren't getting through this without a civil war. days after the insurrection, my only regret is they should have brought rifles. we could have fixed it right there and then. how does that play into a case for seditious conspiracy. >> it shows the fact that they were willing to go as far as enacting violence to bring this about. it doesn't necessarily change

what this charges will be because those are already out there. in terms of establishing the necessary element of intent around this intent and establish ing what it is that they wanted to do and wanted to affect, that make it is chris call clear. they were doing anything and everything but inacting violence, but they were prepared to do so and regretted not doing so. hints his arguments with his comments about we should have brought rifles, which undercuts his defense in part he noted during the opening statement that he went through great lengths to obey d.c.'s strict gun laws. when you listen to that tape and hear his words, it make it is very clear that wasn't a concern of his at all. >> watching this trial begin to unfold, i went back to the beginning of the book. there was something that you wrote about when you were crafting this speech for the

50th nniversary of selma. we saw some of the handwriting from barack obama. he wrote, there are places, moments in america where the destiny is decided. many are war. selma is such a place. then below it he wrote, it was not a clash of armies, but a clash ofs will. a contest to determine the true meaning of america. he had in 20 words written a thesis for your speech. and i wonder how you think about that when you look at what's happening today. >> sure. that's the thesis of my book. you nailed it. that's really been the story of america all along. politics is a clash ofs will. we're always engaged in a contest in terms of what we want america to be. right now, we're going through a period where it's getting more violent and you have sitting senators encouraging this violence. it's dark, but the entire history of america is the story of progress and back. >> speaking of sitting senators, ron johnson this morning said this. take a listen.

>> some of the ro testers did teach us all when you use flag poels as weapons. but to call what happened on january 6th an earned insurrection, that's not accurate. >> charles scoffed at that. you're shaking your head. it does seem like further than the number of years since you were in the white house, it that makes sense. administrations change, things change, but it seems like we have come more than one and a half administrations. >> things are getting pretty dark. we know what happened there. it does make one feel cynical about where we're going. there are plenty of people working hard, doing the good work, trying to change things for the better. and that's one thing i hope this book does is convince these people these are cyclical. >> but one of the things that does really well is it shows you, and i was making the

compaison to my team, when you go to the rock and roll hall of fame and see how the beatles rewrote some of the great songs that all of us know, you help us to understand how those things were crafted. it seems like the democrats and joe biden are trying to craft a message around democracy, around the fight for democracy, the importance of what's happening in the supreme court, the importance of what's happening in the trials. what should that message be? that's what you do? you craft messages. >> they are all related. all of the messages were about the fragility of democracy. it's only as strong as we are. and it's what they have been trying to do by labeling maga politicians as the people in charge, the people that need to be voted out of office. he's trying to create a permission structure to say maybe i'll give somebody else a shot. >> let's talk a little bit about everyone talks about the fact that there hasn't been a trial like this in 80 years.

conspiracy is something very difficult to prove. obviously, they think they have a case. how important is the outcome for how this is viewed, what happened? >> it's extremely important. i think you talking about a case that not only will be precedent setting in terms of the narrative around january 6th and how we remember it both legally, and also in terms of what we historically come to in how we resolve this conversation around what happened. i think many of us know, but will what will happen if that were the case t lees too much roon room for the narrative to be left for debate. we have to be very clear about the direction of this country if we really want to make a point and be clear about the fact we do not support what happened on january 6th. this has to result in a conviction. much more than the law, we're talking about a fight for the soul of this nation.

and when you're talking about something of that grandiose nature, it has to be punctuated with the fact that the law that governs this land does not tolerate this behavior under the notion of patriotism. >> when you use the words like grandiose and the critical importance, how important is it when crafting a mess act and not everybody is writing a speech, but they are going out and talking to constituents. how important is it to frame it in a way to help people understand can you help people understand the moment, where we are in this moment, what's at stake? >> democracy itself. everyone needs to be clear about that. there's no room. >> maybe it was the insurrection, maybe it wasn't. >> and you see people say i don't know. it's up to other people. you have to ask him. no, it's clear. we can all see it. we have seen the videos and know what happened. this was an insurrection.

democracy is at stake. anyone running for office right now, trying to fill roles saying they will overturn the next election is somebody that needs to be voted down right away. >> i agree with that wholeheartedly. it's important that we pay attention to how we got here. this did not happen overnight. this was a progression of false kwif sits and allowing ideologies to get daylight when they should not have been. this was a matter of us questioning media and news and getting to a point where we couldn't trust what it was we were learning. that only polarized our discussion even further. it's so important to understand this had been going on for a number of years. and brought us to this place. because if we don't, we'll end up here again. >> you're both sticking with us. we have a lot more to talk about. a couple other stories we want to dpet you caught up on. in michigan there's a trial involving a separate home grown militia group that's begun. part of described as the largest domestic terrorism case in a generation. this one involves three men

believed to be part of the group known as the wolverine watchmen accused of assisting in a plot to kidnap governor whitmer. it was said to be angry over what her lockdown policies during the early part of the pandemic. jury selection began on monday and could wrap up as early as today. president biden hasn't made it official, but nbc news has learned he told msnbc host al sharpton he is going to run for reelection. sharpton, who is the head of the national action network, apparently told his staff that during a private conversation at the white house last month, biden was discussing his 2020 bid and then told sharpton, quote, i'm going to do it again. coming up, critical arguments. the fight in the supreme court that cuts to the very heart of voting rights in our coin country. plus the death toll climbs as historic serge and rescue operations continue in florida. we have the latest live from fort myers, ahead. and taking on apple.

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a critical decision impacting the future of voting rights in america is on the line today as the supreme court hears arguments for racial gerrymandering. it's a disputed map drawn by the state's republicans, critics say it's an example of illegal racial gerrymandering because only one of the state's seven districts would be majority black. even though alabama's population is 27% black. challengers say the redrawn congressional map dilutes the black vote and argued the state should have a second majority black district. for more, let's bring in yamiche alcindor, a lay na beverly, and

cody keenan is back with us. yamiche, give us background on this case and tell us what you're hearing from people on each side. >> reporter: it's a big day here at the supreme court because oral arguments are now complete in the landmark case. now on the plaintiff's side, they are saying that african-americans, their voting power is being diluted in alabama because they should have more than one majority black congressional district. they say they want to break it up. they should have two congressional members in congress. but of course, alabama is saying the opposite. no, the congressional districts are drawn fairly. they are constitutional. i spoke to both people on this side. i want to play for you some sound of the secretary of state as well as former attorney general eric holder who has been focused on redistricting since leaving the obama administration. take a listen. >> people in our state have the opportunity to choose where they

live. they can locate or relocate wherever they want to. >> that's absurd. that's offensive. gerrymandering negatively impacts the nation as a whole, but disproportionately impacts people of color. >> reporter: so there you have the alabama secretary of state, who was mentioned in this landmark case. he's stating that if people don't like the district they are in or representation, they should move or they can have district people be elected to the alabama state legislature. but eric holder is saying that's absurd. people should not have to move nrd to get equal representation. i can tell you i talked to both sides after the oral argument. the attorney general who was in the court today told me he feels confident that alabama was able to make its case. i also talked to one of the plaintiffs who says he's holding on to hope even in a conservative court they will be able to win this case.

>> what do you see as the heart of this case? >> let's remember this is the first redistricting that we have seen since section 5 of the voting rights act was struck down. it was responsible for helping to prevent some of theeds voting changes that would dilute minority voting strength and have those changes submitted to the department of justice. so at the heart of this case, it's what is left of the voting rights act. it's what the strength of section 2 of the voting rights act is, which basically says that rules, practices and procedure cans not deny the right to vote on the basis of race. and the supreme court precedent, there's a case called thornberg that lays out the criteria for when minority voters are having their voting strength diluted by practices like this. and so what i'm concerned about is that we have now have an overwhelmingly conservative court that does not see the value in judicial precedence. and the possibility that this precedent in the voting rights

context could be overturned and then or greatly diluted, which would result in diluting the strength of minority voters. they are outish in the claim black voters should move to have voteing power or to have representation. that is the same reason the voting rights act was enacted in the first place. >> i want to play some of what we heard this morning. our reporters were out at a rally in support of majority black districts in the state. here's what they told us. >> i'm not going to make my peace with being a second class citizen. >> we're moving from how many jelly beans are in a jar to young people guess figure they are even eligible to vote. >> wondering if they are eligible to vote. in january, a lower court found the map to be discriminatory. that map is still going to be used in the congressional election.

whad does this mean? short-term there are implications too, right? >> absolutely. this plan that would pact the african-american voters of alabama will be packed into one district. when it comes to the midterm elections, they will only be eligible to have a candidate of choice. but it's not just this case. these redistricting efforts have swept the country. so we're going to see this will have um complications for redistricting in north carolina, in other critical states for both whether or not democrats are able to have a majority in the house or senate and republicans are now using this redistricting as one other tool in their arsenal to try to take the house and to try to take the senate. long-term, this is about voting power for minority voters

overall, but in the short-term, it also has political consequences for the democrats. >> there was an editorial today that said the controversy looks less like a battle over minority votes righting and a typical partisan dust up over voting rights. the voting rights act was intended to shield to protect minority voting rights, but it has evolved into a sword to advance the interests of the established political parties. it's like this huge thing on one side. you have a dust up. the other the right to vote critical to our democracy sat stake. you write specifically about selma and john lewis, about the fight for voting rights. and i wonder if it shocked you where we are right now. >> it shocks me where we are. we have been here before. the prologue talks about the selma speech where president obama laid out that piece. he went down there on the 15th

anniversary of people who were pour and powerless. >> snid of talking about this side said this or that shs the right to vote is sacred for everybody. one thing that ties together whether it's the so-called oath keepers trying to prevent the presidential count from happening, whether it's trying to kidnap a governor, whether it's this case. maga republicans are trying to suppress people who vote for democrats and consolidate power on their own to do whatever they want. >> we only have a minute left. this is about an intense ten-day period. it was intense, including when you were awaiting supreme court decisions on same sex is marriage and obamacare. what if in just days the supreme court set the movements for universal health care and equality back years. what would those decisions tell the world about who we were? what would those decisions tell

america about who we were? what would i write if that happened? what would you write now? >> i read a lot of the same thing i read before. the events that happened in those ten days, whether it was the recent shooting in charleston or the supreme court deciding whether or not gay americans are second class citizens. the whole thing about this country is it comes become to this contest of america. does everybody matter? who gets to decide this? and right now, you have people taking into their own hands to try to decide it. what really matters is everybody shoeping up at the ballot box and really just voting overwhelmingly to say that these things are wrong and our ideals are right. >> i was covering the bam white house during those ten days. it's a great book. thank you. it was a riveting read. you open the curtain a little bit. thank you for being here.

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i want to bring in shaq brewster, who is in fort myers beach, florida. there are also more than 200,000 people just in that county without power. what's the range of challenges you're seeing on the ground right now? . >> reporter: power remains to be a problem, especially in the neighborhood that i'm in right now. we stepped away from fort myers beach,two miles and the closest river. look all the the damage you're seeing. this is a neighborhood where in this house you're looking at, they told me that they stayed inside. a family of three and the water got up about four and a half feet. they went up to the attic. every single house on this street in this entire neighborhood has all the entire contents of the home out on the curb. you're seeing refrigerators, dressers, personal items. and i came around and i spoke to one of the families here. her name is sue. she's an elderly couple. she was spending the past couple

days pulling her stuff out of the house with help from her family. look at what it looked like inside her home and how high the water mark was compared to her height. >> there's nothing you can do about it. you have to do what you got to do. >> how emotional does it get? >> bad. this is everything we have worked our whole life for. and it's gone. in a flash. >> reporter: i don't know if you can tell from the initial shot there, but that was a freshly remodelled kitchen. she was planning to stay and ride out the storm in her house and then her friend gave her a call and said you need to leave right now. that's when her and her husband went ahead and evacuated. but so many people in this area have a lot of recovering to do. we did just see a fema team come through and do their initial assessments, taking pictures, making sure there were no emergencies.

one thing you're also seeing, people coming through, providing food, water, whatever folks need here as they have a long recovery ahead. >> that's absolutely heartbreaking. story after story, thank you for bringing it to us. i want to bring in presidential distinguished professor michael man, who also is the author of the new climate war. it's good to see you. there was this new study that was very quickly conducted after hurricane ian made landfall. it showed climate change added 10% more rain to hurricane ian. this research wasn't peer reviewed, but in your latest piece, you say ian is no anomaly. so do you think the 10% sounds reasonable? is this the new normal? >> it's good to be with you. it's worse than a new normal. a new normal make it is sound like, okay, we have arrived in this new situation. we just have to figure out how to deal with it. but this will all continue to

get worse as we continue to warm up the planet through carbon pollution. it's a moving baseline of more intense storms, storms that bring more flooding rains and more damage. this latest study that you mentioned, it's a soild study by some leading researchers. we call this an ad hoc detection study. it's done in realtime. it hasn't gone through peer review. and so it's a preliminary analysis. what it does show is that in the cry mat change made this storm more powerful. and it made it more of a flooding event. you warm up the planet, there's more energy in these storms. so they intensify more. you put more moisture into the atmosphere, so you can dpet more rainfall. and this study shows that by looking at two different sorts of simulations. you run a climate model before

we had increased the carbon pollution, and another where you account for the human increase in carbon emissions. and when you see in the latter case that an event like this happens much more often than it does in the other case, then you can attribute climate change. you can say climate change made this event more likely. it made this storm stronger. it put more rainfall. one last point here. if anything, this study is conservative. this claim that it increased the flooding by 10%, that's probably a lower bound. the model that's used in this case has to make approximations in how you model the way that a stronger storm pull mrs. moisture into the storm. that affect isn't really that well captured in this model. and we know that that effect does contribute to the flooding rains with these storms. it contributed to the huge flood ing with haiyan and the flooding we saw a year ago with a da as

well. >> i have to is you this quickly. we're seeing a lot of new strajs pop up dealing with the echlkts. things like roof shingles that resis tant to high winds. if we're talking about structural advances, are they band-aids when the patient, meaning the planet, is bleeding out. >> some of this stuff is deck chairs on the titanic. if we don't get the source of this problem, which is our continued burning of fossil fuels, the warming of the planet ask the more energy to intensity the storms f we don't attack that problem, there's no amount of adaptation that's going to keep these impacts within our adaptive capacity. within our resilience. so we need to take measures to make ourselves more resilient given the impacts we're already seeing, but we have to prevent it from getting worse. that requires policy action. that requires an even faster

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editor sam stein, charles conelin. how legally tough of a position did put his lawyer in? >> extremely. this is a guy who does not care about the precarious positions he puts his attorneys in and whether he's threatening their livelihood and their licensure. had this attorney made that representation and been wrong or been something that donald trump knew was not correct, he could have been disciplined. that's not a concern for donald trump. it has to be of paramount importance. >> the nbc news reporting is interesting on these two documents. given what we know about trump, should we be surprised those are among the things he wanted to keep? >> i'm completely not surprised that those are some of the momentos he wants to keep.

trump is a classic horder of those types of things. if you have ever stepped foot in trump tower, his walls are adorned with magazine covers and mem ra beel items. >> including things that didn't actually exist. >> there are the "time" magazine covers that are nonexistent. to a degree, this is driven by self-interest where he runs into trouble is that these documents fall into the presidential records act, but beyond that, it's not just that these are personal momentos, but some were the most important secrets of the government could obtain intelligence wise. it's all fun and games a little bit that he kept his letters to kim jong-un, but there are serious national security implications to the documents that he brought to mar-a-lago too. >> you have to separate those from a legal standpoint. there are things that even if

you're not supposed to have them, you can understand, wow, i would like to keep that. i understand we want to keep very different thing legally. is it very different thing legally if it was classified? >> it is, but at the end of the day, it's important to understand there's a process for all of that. there's a process for i would like to hold on to them. he ignored it entirely. not to mention from a legal standpoint, this undercuts any argument that he either did not know or was not aware of these documents being in his position. it also undercuts the narrative that the fbi stormed in and i had no idea what this was about. you had prior notice in every opportunity to return these documents that did not belong to you beforehand literally for months. you blew them off. you ignored it and this was the result. >> so i guess the question then becomes -- i was going to say why did he do it, but he's been in a position for much of his life where he could simpy say,

no, or decide that he wanted to do something else and not really have a legal consequence follow him in any significant way, right? >> yeah, this is not to excuse the action because charles is right, there's a process by which you're supposed to follow. certainly, it's notable that trump, who came into office, criticizing hillary clinton's handling of records is himself embroiled in a records classification and handling issue. to your point, trump obviously hailed from a domain in which he was the master. he ran a family-run business. he was always the boss. he did what he wanted and his lawyers cleaned up the mess after him. that mentality did not change once he entered the white house. the laws that governed how you operate and what you do in the intel and information that goes by your desk simplely were immaterial to him. so you get reports of aids basically sweeping documents

into boxes and carting them off without any care for what the law actually said. this is a mentality that endears trump to a lot of people, but it runs afoul with the law and he's seeing the consequences of that. >> thank you for stick around. appreciate you very much. a new development in the georgia senate race that could have major implications about which party gains control of the senate. there was a story alleging herschel walker, who has campaigned on his anti-abortion views, encouraged a woman to have an abortion after he got her pregnant in 2009. according to "the daily beast," the woman, who asked not to be identified for privacy concerns, provided a receipt from the abortion clinic, a bank deposit that includes an image of his check reimbursing her for the cost of the procedure and what the woman said was a get well card signed by walker. the paper say it is corroborated the details with a close friend of the woman, who was someone

she told at the time and who according to the woman and her friend took care of her in the days after the procedure. nbc news has not yet investigator fit the allegations or independently reviewed the documents. when reached for comment, walker's campaign pointed to his responses on twitter. where he called the charges a flat out lie. however, walker's son soon took to twitter to call out his father. quote, how dare you lie and act as though you're some moral upright man. you have lived a life of destroying other people's lives. walker replied, i love my son no matter what. in a statement, senator rick scott, who was chair of the committee working to elect gop senators, supported walker saying that the nrsc and republicans stand with him. if you're tired of traveling with multiple charges to keep all of your electronics alive, boy, are you not alone. a major move to make some serious adjustments to how people charge their devices. that's next. s. that's next.

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this one's been in my desk for years. but today, european lawmakers overwhelmingly approved a new law that would require a common charger for virtually all electronic devices. we're talking mobile phone, tablets, cameras, e readers, ear buds sold in the european union by the end of 2024. they must be equipped with a usb type c charging port. this would impact companies like apple. let me bring in cnbc's technology correspondent, steve kovach. given this pile of cords and i think pretty much everybody's got one, it feels revolutionary. could it be in europe? >> yeah, it's already okay for people, chris, who have android phones because they're already using that usb type c. this law is really going to target apple customers who have been using that lightning plug

for about a decade now. apple needs to comply with that law by 2024 and start making new iphones with that usbc connecter. this shouldn't be too hard for apple to do because it already puts usbc in some of its devices. if you go out and buy an ipad today for example, it's already going to have that. it might be an awkward transition if you buy a new iphone two or three years from now and you have to replace all your old apple chargers with new ones, that's going to be a pain of course, but if you're an android user, you get to use your phone just as you have for five or six years. >> apple didn't want this. they say it's going to stifle innovation, which is opposite of a headline i saw which was it's a great day for consumers. >> depends on if you're on eu regulator. apple's argument is what if someone comes up with a better way to charge your phone that's faster or better and charges it

in a better way. this keeps people boxed in from inventing something new or better. apple is also pushing towards removing ports from the phone. few years ago, they took away that headphone jack. they've been slowly making moves to take away the charging port as well so this could damage their plans to make the iphone completely no charging ports. apple is not happy with this. >> only 30 seconds left, but what are the chances something like this might happen in the u.s.? >> these are global companies so when samsung or apple makes a phone, they usually sell the same device across the world. if it happens on iphone in the eu, it's likely going to happen in the u.s. and around the world. >> i don't know if it's going to help me with me mess, but we shall see. good to see you. that's going to do it for us.

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"the washington post" first reported according to people familiar, "the new york times" has now matched that back in february of this year, donald trump asked one of his lawyers to tell the national archives in an official statement that he had given back all of the documents and materials the government was asking for, but his lawyer said no. the reason according to the post is that cannon was not sure it was true. donald trump himself was the one who packed the 15 boxes given back to the archives in january after more than a year of requests. that's new. we didn't know that before. the post reports that people familiar say trump complained that they were just newspaper clippings in the boxes and the archives was being per snickty. cannon told other aides not to look either for fears if there were classified materials, they did not have the clearance to see them. we now know cannon was