. new details coming in from florida as we come on the air with the governor about to give

an update any minute on that massive search operation and the recovery. also likely to respond to questions on whether evacuation orders came too late. the number of people killed by hurricane ian now at 108. our team is standing by live in the storm zone with more. plus the new details revealed in that oath keepers trial including from an fbi agent about the militia group's digital footprint. what else we're hearing from a secret recording that was shown. and the world's richest man says he does want to buy trading. more on that twitter takeback takeover situation coming up. and president biden this hour set to announce new guidelines on reproductive rights. we'll take you live to the white house, 100 days after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, and just five weeks ahead of the midterms. i'm hallie jackson, with me is dasha burns and jesse kirsch both in south florida.

jesse, i'll start with you in fort myers beach. tell us about the latest on the ground. >> we're expecting to hear more from the governor shortly. here's what we have from the state. as of now they say more than 2,000 pallets of water have been distributed. more than 1,700 pallets of food. many people can't access their homes yet. at this point we're expecting the governor to hopefully have a bridge to pine island, a temporary bridge to pine island built by the end of the week. there are also plans to get a bridge to sanibel island opened again. i'm in fort myers beach. you can see one glimpse of the devastation caused here. you can see this wall just ripped to shreds. if we move all the way over, you'll see a couple of massive boats. these are not small boats. these are not little sailboats. these are substantial craft here. you can see they are just up on land. one of them up over there. off in the distance, this

massive structure, which is probably at least two stories high if not higher than that. it has been tossed around. this is one of the scenes we're seeing across this region. yesterday i was able to go on to sanibel island itself. we were accompanying a family to save their synagogue's torahs to bring them to safety for yom kippur which begins at sundown. when we were there, we were given limited access to the island but we were able to look at the causeway which has been torn through. and on the island itself, we were on a side that did not seem to have as much damage as we could imagine as on other parts of the island. even there, there was debris scattered around, signs were knocked over. police told us if we went much further inland we would be escorted off of the island. it was very much contained what we saw. we did see them trying to bring

on to land an at&t vehicle and some other equipment. obviously there's a huge rebuilding effort under way across this whole region. i can tell you, it took quite an effort. they had to build a man made ramp -- sorry -- a ramp to get that equipment on to land. even though they were able to get equipment over on a barge, they still had to figure out how to get it on to land. you can imagine that scene is replicating itself throughout the region. this is one look at what hurricane ian did to this community and there's still a long road ahead. >> thank you. dasha, let me turn to you, on this show live we spoke to the head of one of the hospital systems. you spoke to one nurse who worked at a pediatric icu who worked for four days straight while ian blasted this area and moved on. tell us more. >> when we talk about numbers, there are so many unseen, unsung

heroes and stories in those numbers. the story of eileen, a pediatric icu nurse is just incredible. imagine this, she is 32 weeks pregnant, with twins, she had to say good-bye to her husband and her 1 1/2-year-old adorable baby daughter, to go and take care of other peoples children and keep them safe through the storm. she said good-bye not knowing what she was walking into. had to face significant challenges at the hospital as electricity went out. they went to generator power. they lost water for some time. all the while, these are kids trying to ride out a storm. the nurses slept in a storage unit. just trying to take care of the babies inside her and at the same time she lost contact with her husband and her daughter for about 24 hours. she didn't know where they were. she knew that the storm was getting worse, that it was

turning into a category 4. she was watching out of the window as the parking lot of the hospital flooded. she saw her own car get destroyed. all the while she's running the scenarios in her head. you can imagine as a mom, what is happening right now in her home with her baby. take a listen to some of our conversation. >> even at 32 weeks pregnant, if i had been released from emergency team and allowed to go home, i would have walked home to get to them. there would have been nothing that would keep me from getting home to my husband and baby. nothing. so those are the things you think about. what will i have to do to get there? will i have help to get there? will help arrive? >> at one point, they called 911 to do wellness checks. they got a dial tone. there was no 911. you can imagine what that feels

like as a mother and as a soon to be mom of two. thankfully they were reunited. her daughter is fine. her husband is fine. her home has seen some damage. the roof was partially torn off. some pipes burst. they'll have to scramble to get that place ready for these two new babies coming in about a month or so here, but this is just one story, a remarkable one. there are so, so many more stories of these unsung heroes taking care of patients through such an unimaginable time in her own personal life. >> yeah. it is such important reporting. thank you. i should remind folks, we're keeping an eye out for that update from governor desantis. it was supposed to start at 2:30 eastern. running a bit behind schedule. the second we get news out of that, we'll bring that to you live. we want to talk about what's going down here in washington. more testimony in the trial of five oath keepers charged with

seditious conspiracy after january 6th. this is the most significant trial yet. on the stand today, an fbi agent who had an online meeting with more than 100 participants. you can see the line of militia-looking folks making their way up the capitol steps the day of january 6th. the call was focusing on bringing a quick reaction force in. armed militia folks waiting to go into d.c. with weapons. ryan reilly is outside district court for us along with with our msnbc legal analyst. talk about the strategy here for federal prosecutors, highlighting this particular call, sharing this previously secret recording in one of the first days of witness testimony

we've seen. >> yeah. we've seen a lot of these messages previously in terms of messages, but this was all dependent upon donald trump invoking the insurrection act, that's the only way anything would move forward is the claim. doj is saying that's not the case. they have this audio of him afterwards that they played in their opening statement and we'll expect to hear more of that later which basically says this insurrection act was just essentially a cover story for their plan to overturn, intervene and stop the peaceful transfer of power. right now we've seen a lot of testimony from an fbi special agent, that included some references that were worked into the communications from thomas caldwell, kind of one of the older defendants on this side. essentially caldwell's team is trying to underplay the threat he poses. basically playing up his age,

medical disabilities he had, that's something they're playing up for the jurors in the courtroom. basically saying he's not much of a threat. prosecutors say he was essentially the organizer of the qrs, quick reaction forces that were stationed outside of d.c. with a bunch of weapons. he also made his farm available in virginia for a lot of these oath keepers to come and visit. one of the defendants fled -- one of the co-defendants fled to this farm out there. there's discussion around that methodically building their case here is what prosecutors are in the middle of right now, as he can see more testimony from this fbi agent. the case is expected to last several weeks here. >> i'm sure there will be more twists and turns and revelations to come. >> the insurrection act is what is front and center in many ways here. rhodes said in this meeting that violence from antifa on january

6th would bring the president his reason and rational for dropping the insurrection act. is relying on this law that was never invoked a solid legal strategy in your professional assessment? >> let me say myself as a proud graduate of yale law school where stewart rhodes also went, this sounds to me like the kind of thing that would get you some points in law school for creativity, you know, before you become a lawyer. but i don't think it's actually a strong legal argument. for one thing, we don't even know how a president is supposed to invoke that and how to put together a militia to send in. but, i think it's already clear more importantly that even after just one day of testimony that it's not going to hold up as a factual matter. both because as the prosecution previewed yesterday in opening statements, there's evidence that stewart rhodes said this is

legal cover for us. this is not actually why we're putting together this violent band, but we can use it to try to protect ourselves if we're ever prosecuted, but also because we're seeing this evidence that they meant to commit acts of violence. they were getting ready. they had elaborate plans. we heard about some of those plans today. they were waging in their own words a civil war. every time they talked about that they didn't say only if the president instructs us to take these measures. so, i might -- i expect this is going to fall apart as a defense as this trial continues over the next month. >> there's one thing, tali, as we've been talking about this trial that keeps coming up. we are hearing about it today, this digital trail that these defendants left. there was a lot of communication from rhodes, from his fellow oath keepers that made it into government evidence. is that surprising to you given

the availability of more encrypted information? talk to us about how we should be thinking about that. >> you know, it doesn't really surprise me because i'll tell you from my own experience as a prosecutor that people are just really careless about what they say and on what channels they say it. just about every case starts with looking at phone records, building up from there. and, you know, the government here has done a particularly excellent job in exploiting that. it seems exploiting various sources. so they had a tipster who recorded that meeting, it looks like they have some cooperating witnesses that will come up, some of the co-defendants. and, so, the world that we live in and prosecutors know how to work with it. >> thank you very much for your analysis and perspective this afternoon. appreciate it. a lot of news to get to in the next 45 minutes or so.

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trading of twitter shares, that's been suspended, after a big twist in the whole elon musk/twitter drama. musk has apparently changed his mind again. he's offering to buy twitter for the original price they agreed on back in april, according to sources familiar with the deal. the deal could be inked as early as friday. this comes less than two weeks

as the two sides were ready to fight it out in court. let's bring in elizabeth dwoskin and kara swisher. kara, i hesitate to ask what could elon musk be thinking, that's a recipe for disaster. strategically, what's behind this? >> i have an idea of what he's thinking. i think he knew he was going to lose, so he might as well buy it rather than pay a settlement fee. he was going to pay no matter what. i guess he probably figured if i can get the financing, other peoples money, my own money, i'll make a go at it. he knew he couldn't get out of this. i suspect he didn't really want to be deposed. it could get very dicey for a business figure to be deposed on a lot of questions he may not want to answer. he just wasn't going to win. >> you point out functionally for twitter users, twitter will look mostly the same with the

exception of allowing, perhaps, donald trump back on the flat form. >> yes, he will bring him back on. i don't think he won't. he says he will do it. he tends to do the things he says -- sometimes, in this case, he will. it shouldn't remain the same. you have to make this service better than it is. it's been a terrible business. it's been a terrible product, even though a lot of media people are addicted to it and politicians. it needs a major redo. maybe he's the one to do it. >> there was an emergency court hearing this morning and another set for this afternoon. what are you hearing generally about the feelings inside twitter. >> i think the funniest feeling inside twitter was somebody shared with me a screen shot from an internal conversation on slack where they said i don't know whether to say congrats or i'm sorry. you know, the feeling is, first of all, there's distrust. like, is this another legal

stunt? and then there's terror. there's been terror for a long time. twitter has already, since the moment that elon musk announced he was going to buy the company, there are elon musk fan boys that are -- that work at twitter. a large portion of the company has also been opposed. the company faced enormous attrition. the ceo fired a lot of people. so you have this situation where the executive ranks have been hugely thinned out. elon will -- if this goes through, elon will fill those with his own people. there's a hearing this afternoon. and twitter got this late-night confidential letter from elon's team saying we want to get out of all litigation, walk away from delaware court and go ahead with the deal that we agreed. twitter doesn't want to do that.

so twitter will likely go through with this if they can have the judge oversee the process. my understanding is the hearing today is about getting the court to oversee what might be some kind of settlement where the deal does go through. most assuredly, this is the outcome twitter wanted. they wanted this high share price. at least let me say the board wanted this outcome for the share price. whether they want elon musk to run twitter, heck no. >> you know, you talk about the reaction from silicon valley. kara, wall street is having a reaction. shares of twitter suspended. it's a market-moving thing. >> sure. yeah. it's the price. they couldn't have settled for less. they didn't have a choice. the board had no choice. the shareholders will do great, including twitter employees. as for the employees, they'll have to go somewhere else. if they're terrified, they shouldn't work there. you can have your opinions about elon musk, but if he buys it, he will run it the way he wants to. i know it's beloved by people

and everyone has to have their hair on fire about everything. he'll either make it a great business or not. if he doesn't, he'll lose a lot of money. but we'll see. he'll either figure it out or he won't. whether it matters or not, it's an investment opportunity and an investment challenge. >> great to see both of you on a busy day. appreciate it. top republicans this afternoon standing by herschel walker as a new scandal rocked his senate campaign in georgia with five weeks to go until election. the daily beast is reporting that the republican candidate who says he is anti-abortion allegedly paid for a woman to get one in 2009. she's asking not to be identified because of privacy concerns. the daily beast reports she provided documents for the abortion, she had a receipt, literally a receipt and note from walker. daily beast says it corroborated the details with a close friend at the time.

nbc news has not verified these allegations or independently reviewed the documents. this october surprise not turning most republicans away. the senate republican campaign arm says the nrsc and the republicans stand with him. mitch mcconnell says they're full speed ahead in georgia. president trump saying walker in his view is being slandered and maligned. nbc news reached out to the walker team for comment. walker's tweets calling the report a lie and says he plans to sue the daily best for definition. since this news came out, there's been twists and turns. walker's sons making waves on social media when he talked about this, going after his father on this allegation. walker's camp denying it. and republicans and some anti-abortion rights groups standing by him. >> that's correct. early consensus among

republicans nationally as well as conservative groups is that they will rally around herschel walker's candidacy and kind of hang this on his denials, even though he didn't address the fact that the daily beast had receipts and evidence of the reporting here, that is, as you point out, the republican senate campaign arm is standing by him. the senate leadership fund, the top spending group, which is heavily invested in georgia, is standing by him. president trump is standing by him. sba as well as national right to life are standing by herschel walker. this is all a product of the high stakes of this race in the battle for the senate majority. senates doubt they can capture control of the chamber without georgia. at this point, they don't have another option. either they stand by herschel walker or they see this race and the views of many worry they're seating the majority. our reporting suggests there's more nervousness among

republicans privately than their publicly letting on. brian kemp is running for his own re-election bid in charge. this adviser mentions brian kemp said repeatedly throughout the campaign that the governor is laser focused on sharing his record of results and vision for the second term with hardworking georgians. these two have not been chummy throughout the campaign. you add it up, even if republicans are worried about the way walker ran his campaign, they feel obligated to see him through this to term. >> as you and i talked about and know, even if herschel walker were to drop out, let's say hypothetically, it's not like republicans can put somebody else on the ballot. >> that's the problem they're in. that's the dilemma they face. it's either herschel walker or

they walk away from this race, seat it to raphael warnock. this is potentially the quintessential tipping point state. this gave the democrats the 50th vote in the 2020 election. it could do the same in the 2022 election. one recent poll showed a two-point race. the presidential race and the last two senate races in georgia were all decided by two points or less. that's the environment we're looking at in georgia. in terms of the impact this allegation, this reporting and this scandal could have on the race, i wouldn't discount it. some believe it could be a knockout punch for herschel walker, i doubt that given how divided politics are these days. just about anybody with a dnr by their name will get substantial support. even a one or two-point shift in an environment this divided in an election this close could be everything. it could swing the race, it

could swing the battle for the majority and that's the heavy stakes of this race, that both parties are looking at, why this race is so important and why republicans feel they cannot walk away from this race despite the fact this is a story not just about a flawed man, which has been widely reported, but a story about hypocrisy as well. a story about a candidate who is running as a pro-life candidate while these allegations are out there, running as a family man while his own son is accusing him of walking away from several of his kids. >> thank you. next up, live to the supreme court where the justices are going head to head over a voting rights case. we have an inside look. and a live look at the white house right about now. you see it there with president biden and vice president harris set to announce new abortion guidelines any moment now. we'll bring it to you live. l bre , freshly prepared with clean ingredients... spark an explosion of the senses. so when you finally taste it, it just confirms... this. is. fantastic.

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house district and thinly spread out across the other six. now the supreme court is set to decide whether states like alabama have to take race into account when redistricting or if the states can have free rein even if it limits how much voting power voters get. the justices got into it. things got snippy at the court today. talk to me about it. i don't know if she can hear me. if she can, she can take it away. we'll come back to her. we'll take you down pennsylvania avenue in a bit. at the white house, president biden is expected to announce new federal guidelines to protect abortion rights. he and vice president harris are meeting with the reproductive rights task force right now marking 100 days since the court overturned roe v. wade. monica alba i believe can hopefully hear us. if you can, talk to me about

what we expect to hear from the president. >> absolutely. this is the second meeting of that reproductive rights task force. the president and vice president will both be participating in that. and the white house put out a report earlier today, again noting it's been 100 days since dobbs, and they're highlighting what they call these republicans who have taken, in their words, extreme measures to limit access to reproductive health care. they're specifically in this meeting going to talk about the fact that now, if you look at all of the different abortion bans in various states, more than a dozen of them, that means there's about 30 million women of reproductive age who have been affected by this, who don't have access to reproductive health care and abortions depending on the differing and varying bans that you see there on that screen. so, you're going to see the president and the vice president talk specifically about what they have been doing this summer, building on efforts of these executive orders, specifically when it comes to

the department of education and title 9. they'll make sure universities across the country, students can't face discrimination based on their pregnancy or if they seek to end a pregnancy. and they're also allocating more than $6 million to help students who may seek that kind of reproductive health care. this is something, of course, politically, the backdrop of the midterms, just over a month away, it's something the president has been talking about. though, if you look at polling in terms of what's driving some voters, the economy is still pretty much at the top across the board. the white house is hoping to shift that a little bit since they have seen this be an energizing issue for voters and special elections over the summer. they want to build on a little bit of that momentum going into it. again, they'll highlight what they say are some state gop and federal gop officials who have worked to limit this access and they'll call that out and talk about what else can be done. it can a complicated issue given

this white house wants to protect and enshrine abortion rights into federal law, but in order to do that, they need congress to act. they'll talk about what they're able to do, what they hope to continue to do and what they need lawmakers help to do to help with these rights and access to critical health care. >> when we hear from the president, we'll take you there live. i take you back to the supreme court. i take it the tech gremlins have ran away by this point? >> yes, they have. >> i don't know if you heard us, we set up why you're there. the discussion that the supreme court had today, the oral arguments that they heard in relation to voting rights. it was interesting to me how heated things got with the justices who were appointed by democratic presidents, versus the justices who were not. >> certainly. of course, this is a landmark

day at the supreme court. it is a case that has a lot to do with voting rights and gerrymandering. you saw three of the liberal justices on this 6-3 court, the liberals were hammering alabama, which is trying to defend its congressional maps, the civil rights activists say it's diluting the power of voters. i talked to the plaintiffs in this case and the defendant. listen to what they told me. >> reporter: for generations, alabama has been home to seminole several rights battles. now activists say there's a new front line for equality, redistricting. >> we would ask federal courts would intervene and require them to look at the population, the voting history of the state and produce maps that give black alabamians a chance to elect candidates of their choice in a

way that actually represents their population in the state. >> reporter: evan milligan is talking about the marquee supreme court case bearing his name. the case centers on voting rights and gerrymandering. currently, one of the state's seven congressional districts is majority black. that's 14%. alabama's population is 27% black. milligan and other plaintiffs say the newly drawn congressional map dilutes the voting power of black residents. they are demanding the state create a second majority black district by breaking it up. >> we had to fight for freedom. we had to fight for the right to vote. we are fighting for redistricting. >> democracy is under attack. the country as we know it, if we continue on the road we're on right now, we will not be able to recognize or even spell democracy in this country. >> reporter: the defendant, alabama secretary of state john merrill, did not draw the new congressional maps. but he is confident the state

will be able to successfully defend them. what's your response to civil rights activists and voters who say that the current congressional lines are diluting african american voting power in this state? >> if they are not pleased with that, then they need to change the constituency of the alabama legislature or the congressional delegation. people in our state have the opportunity to choose where they live. they can locate or relocate wherever they want to. >> that's absurd. that's offensive. that tells you how big the problem is. >> reporter: former attorney general eric holder has focused much of his attention on fighting gerrymandering, through a new group, the national redistricting committee, he helped file lawsuits throughout the country over the past few years, including this case in alabama. >> it's a microcosm of a larger problem. gerrymandering negatively impacts the nation as a whole, but disproportionately impacts

people of color. this is a question of fairness. >> reporter: now both sides will make their oral arguments before the supreme court. milligan's ancestors were enslaved just six generations ago, he said losing this case would be devastating to generations. he said after oral arguments he feels good that his lawyers were able to make a solid case to the justices. i talked to alabama's attorney general, he said he's confident they defended their maps, he's confident and proud to be here arguing this case. so they feel comfortable and they feel solid their maps are constitutional. >> great reporting. thank you for bringing it to us. an nbc news scoop, taking us inside new white house talks about a post-election immigration push happening with a small group of biden aides, talking with our team who covers them adding the details, scale

and scope all hinge on which party ends in control in november and on the political comment. here with that scoop is peter nicholas, one of the names there. take us inside these talks, what's being considered and the strategy of waiting until post-midterms. >> there are quiet talks happening in the white house now. there's a perception that not much progress has been made by the white house on the immigration issue. they would like to accomplish more. the slogan is promises made, promises kept, you can't argue that he kept promises on immigration. they recognize that inside the white house. they would like to turn the tables on republicans who exploited the issue by emphasizes what they call a porous border, influx of migrants across the border illegally. it depends on whether the democrats can keep control of

the senate. >> what is the sense of the optimism that some of these folks you're talking to have about the progress they could make on a topic that, as you well know, has deviled lawmakers for years now? >> we might see the courts do away with protections for dreamers, a program called daca, that could happen soon, and the white house believes there's some -- there's hope inside the white house that there could be an opportunity to provide protections to them so they're not deported, maybe through legislative solution, republicans have shown interest in that in the past. many of these people came to the united states when they were young, they have houses, they have jobs, they established themselves here. there might be some bipartisan consensus that, you know, that protections can be afforded to them. that's, i think, a sense for optimism. but biden sees a political opportunity here.

he can talk about asylum and the fact that some of the migrants are trying to escape persecution from communist regimes, they're coming from cuba, venezuela, nicaragua. america can welcome them. republicans will be on the defensive if they were to say no to that. it's a complicated issue. as you mentioned, it's been elusive in the past, but there's discussions happening about expanding visas, providing temporary work permits. >> peter nicholas, thank you. the biden administration today sending more money to ukraine. another $625 million in military help in a package set to include weapons, ammunition and equipment including four mobile rocket launchers to help fighters on the ground. this comes days after vladimir putin illegally stole basically, annexed four russian-controlled regions in ukraine. some of those areas have been retaken by ukrainian forces.

we're getting new details about president biden's call today with japan's employment, both condemning north korea's longest ever weapons test. and the south korean and u.s. militaries launching fighter jets today which fired weapons at a target off south korea's west coast. courtney, this can only be seen as an escalation by north korea. we've seen how the u.s. is responding so far. what else do you think is in the works here? what happens next? >> that's right. you mentioned the call with president biden and his counterparts. we had calls with secretary of state antony blinken and his counterparts and lloyd austin. in one of the read-outs, specifically the one with secretary austin and his south korean counterpart, they identified this test as a serious escalation. why is that? there's two real reasons. one is the fact that it flew over japan, causing a lot of

concern including -- we've seen video now of alarms that were going off. some people sought shelter as that ballistic missile flew over japan and landed on the other side of the island in the ocean. but in addition to that, one of the reasons is this is seen as a real concern and escalation is the fact that north korea has launched a series of missiles in a relatively short period of time. that has people who i'm speaking to here at the pentagon and in other parts of the u.s. government concerned about what they're up to now. particularly because of what could come next. there are a lot of people concerned that the next test could be a nuclear one. no signs of that right now at this point, but it's something that u.s. officials are watching very carefully now. >> courtney, thank you. let's take you back over to the white house now where president biden is speaking on those reproductive rights guidelines. let's listen in. >> the only way it will happen is if the american people make it happen.

meanwhile, congressional republicans are doubling down on the extreme position with the proposal for a national ban. let me be clear what that means. it means that even if you live in a state where extremist republican officials are not running the show, your right to choose will still be at risk because republicans in congress want to pass a law to take away the right to choose for every woman in every state and every county. and there's no pushing back from that. it's also pushing laws to not allow for exceptions of rape and incest and -- or the life of the mother in some cases. you know, the really scary part is in some states they're already succeeding. when the dobbs decision came down, i said and justice thomas warned us plainly, that this

wouldn't stop with a woman's right to choose. and it would extend to the right to privacy itself. things like contraception. and, so, it's no surprise that we're seeing extremist laws pop up around the country that are having a ripple effect far beyond the health rights of a pregnant woman. we have doctors here with us today who are on the front lines of this crisis, and many of these laws would make doctors criminals just for treating a patient. in arizona, they had a law, which was mentioned by the vice president on the books in 1864. that's 1864, before -- during the civil war. it went into effect again a week and a half ago. just two days after it went into effect, a young 14-year-old girl suffering from rheumatoid arthritis and osteoporosis initially couldn't get a refill

for her prescription. the drug she had been taking for years to deal with her two diseases because concerns that that very prescription could be used to terminate a pregnancy in violation of the law in that state. that's exactly what we're afraid would happen. this 14-year-old girl couldn't get medicine she needed for arthritis because of extreme backward and misguided law. now, officials at the university of idaho said it should stop providing contraception as mentioned by the vice president. in fact, they told the university staff that they could get in trouble just for talking or telling students about birth -- where to get birth control. folks, what century are we in? i mean, what are we doing? i respect everyone's view on this, personal decisions they make. but my lord, we're talking about contraception here. it shouldn't be that

controversial. but that's -- this is what it looks like when you take away the right of privacy. i've asked education secretary cardona to look at the steps that we can take to protect college students and school employees in idaho or other states where the access to contraception is at risk. my message to any other college considering enacting policies like this, don't. please don't. we're not going to sit by and let republicans throughout the country enact extreme policies. it's a threat and access to basic health care. that's why we're all here today. that's why we formed this commission. i signed two executive orders and my administration has taken a number of actions that this task force is charged to carry out. to protect access to reproductive health care, including emergency medical care. to protect a woman's right to

travel to get the health care she needs, to receive health care free of discrimination and protect her privacy when she seeks it. we're fighting this battle in the courts as well. i want to thank the vice president and secretary i also want to thank secretary mcdonagh for leading the important effort at the va. my message to folks across the country who are worried about what we're seeing is first that we have your back. we're not going to step back from this. second, weave heard your voices. i want to turn it over to secretary cardona now for his cements. >> thank you. thank you mr. president. i share your grave concerns about maintaining access to contraception and reproductive health services on our college campuses. in ensuring there's accurate, reliable information for students -- >> you have been listening to president biden at the white house. i want to bring in white house

correspondent monica alba. what we've heard about the announcement of the new guidelines tracks with some of the messaging we've heard from the white house since the overturning of roe v. wade. in many ways the white house can only do so much. the ball is largely in the court of voters at this point. >> reporter: exactly right, hallie. also raising this as a broader concern. you saw president biden saying it may not just start and stop with abortion rights. this could extend to things like contraception which we're already seeing in some cases, perhaps gay rights, other issues that republicans have said are something that should be looked at or indeed that the supreme court might be weighing. so the president here, not just talking about the issue at hand, but what else could go along with this and saying this is why hee and the vice president believe voters need to show up at the ballot box in november to, as he said, make their voices heard. as you saw there, this is really an administration-wide effort. not just the white house, not

just the department of education. it's health and human services, the department of veterans affairs, the department of justice all trying to work together at these various interlocking levels to see what else can be done. the president also did speak about that specific law in arizona from the 19th century calling it quite antiquated and saying things like contraception, in his words, shouldn't be controversial. hallie. >> monica alba, thank you. to an nbc news exclusive with one of big tech's most outspoken critics, also led a big walkout at google. meredith whitaker is being tapped to run signal, all about providing total privacy for its users. jay ford has this exclusive report. talk about this and what makes this platform different? a lot of people know signal is a more encrypted app. >> that's right.

what's so entering about meredith whitaker, she's spent her career critiquing companies from inside and outside. suddenly she's going to run the major anonymous tech platform, one used by journalists, world leaders, criminals. when we sat down in this interview, she explained there's a vast ecosystem of data hidden behind the actions we take on our apps. all sorts of personal details about our location, our behavior being shared at all times. she said when you look at the profit motive that drives most people to start tech companies, it drives them to make terrible decisions and using that data. have a listen. >> you and i can probably sit here for three hours and do nothing else but name chilling examples of crappy little companies that have figured out how to monetize the desire of the people in power to have information that they can use to

shape the lives of the people they have power over. >> she is an absolute fire brand on this topic, hallie, and spoke to me about why signal is so special. essentially it doesn't collect any information about any of us and doesn't sell any of that information. as a result, she has to figure out how this thing is going to make money. she's literally -- the last, the only place she can imagine going having carried all this activism with her and lead a tech company. >> i wonder if you hear anything from folks who work there and her coming on board. signal more of a messaging app than a social media platform. fair to say? >> that's correct. it's not the kind of place that people's behavior is analyzed. other messaging platforms do that sort of analysis. it's a very different thing there. signal is a very small operation, much smaller than one that serves millions of people around the world. only has about 40 engineers there.

they're very excited to have her there. she's been a board member in the past. it's going to be up to her to figure out how to make this thing make money, talking about a donation model. when you talk about signal and the business model and how the rest of the data ecosystem works, it goes to show the product is free and you are the product. that is true in our modern world. >> how much does the profit model come up? in other words, how much does the money making piece of this come up in her thinking about taking over signal? >> certainly surveillance is the big name of the game. when you talk about why it is that all these services we enjoy on a daily or hourly basis are free, it's because we're connecting our data in the back end of these apps in ways we don't know about. they pick up your information and put it all together. all of that is driven by profit. it's vastly more profitable at

scale to combine our data secretly to profile us and track us than it is to charge us a little money at a time. the fact she's going to try to go the old-fashioned way and get a simple donation model going, that's a big difference. but she said it's really the only way to escape the era of surveillance that we're all in. >> jake ward, thank you. you can catch more of jake's interview at 5:00 eastern on "nbc news now." the full story on our streaming channel. that does it for us for now. appreciate you watching us. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace will start right after the break. the last to be chosen. shelter dogs with special needs face a far longer road to adoption. but subaru knows even the toughest roads can lead to the most amazing places. that's why subaru and our retailers created

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