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key paths to winning. the messaging and the money. to gauge how important these senate races are, take a look at this. a new estimate says $ 9 billion could be spent on midterms before all is said is and done. that would be more spent in the 2020 election cycle, incluing the presidential race. and this is the latest from the political report on the races that will decide control of the u.s. senate. three democrat-held seats leaning blue, three republican leaning red and four races considered true toss ups. among them, georgia, where republicans are rallying around herschel walker despite reporting that he paid for a girlfriend's abortion. nbc news has not independently confirmed the reporting or reviewed the documents included in that story. but this morning walker denied the report saying he has made mistakes.
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>> no one is perfect. i even said at a meeting, i'm a sinner. we all sin before the dploir of god. but every day i pray to god to let me do his will. that's the reason i'm in this race right now. when i see people getting hurt on the street, the crime going on, i see the crime like nobody wanting to hold anybody accountable for. plus president biden and the first lady just arrived in florida. they will get a firsthand look at what's left of that city. reeling from hurricane ian's direct hit one week ago. the death toll from the storm is now at 112, half of those happening in lee county, where fort myers is located. and finally, former president trump now asking the supreme court to step in to negotiate the fight over classified tmts
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found at his home in florida. could it be a winning legal strategy or another tactic to delay the doj's investigation as long as possible? we're going to dig deeper into that in just a moment. i want to bring in washington correspondent yamiche alcindor. he's anchor and moderator of washington week on pbs. ali vitali is our capitol hill correspondent. eugene daniels, co-author of "the political playbook." and simone sanders, host here on msnbc who previously served as chief spokesperson for kamala harris. good to have you all here. yamiche, georgia was among the handful of races considered toss ups. with the latest allegations against herschel walker, is it going to stay that way? what are voters telling you? sdplr that's a key question. i'm here in georgia. this used to be a deeply red part of the state, but it's now turned more blue.
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i have been talking to voters about allegations that herschel walker paid a woman who was carrying his child to have an abortion. voters tell me they are not swayed by this news. if you didn't like him before, which a number of voters told me they thought this was more of the same. they thought his character was already in question because of domestic abuse allegations. but fans of herschel walker say they are sticking by him. take a listen to what more voters told me. >> i told feel either way about him having the abortion. i think that was wrong. i don't agree with that at all. i think that's something he has to deal with his karma in life. >> i prefer people who are principled. so i don't think it will impact my vote. >> reporter: i did talk to a number of voter who is don't
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know what to believe. they are not sure if there's enough evidence there. they were questioning whether or not this allegation that was being placed anonymously, that that was something they could really trust. "the daily beast" is reported the woman making the allegation that herschel walker paid for her to have an abortion, that she asked to remain anonymous for privacy concerns. they are also reporting they did corroborate her story with a friend, who cared for her at the time she allegedly had the abortion. herschel walker continues to deny these allegations. nbc news has not verified that ourselves, but i should also note there's a number of voters who tell me they believe these allegations. one woman telling me she believes herschel walker didn't care about the people of georgia. she ses him as problematic now that he's had a number of children out of wedlock and did not publicly said he had before he was running for office. a lot of really thoughts here. but the bottom line is that nationally, republicans, at least for now, are sticking with
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walker and voters are not seeming to be swayed one way or the other. >> she's right about that. instead of running away from walker, republicans seem to be running toward him. tell us about that. >> reporter: the same goes for the party. the same things that yamiche is hearing about voters likely sticking with him, if they are already republicans, that's what we're hearing from most electeds here in washington. in the words of one group aligned with senator mitch mcconnell, they said full steam ahead in georgia. many republicans that we have heard from, including rick scott and senator lindsey graham in a series of tweets r trying to paint this as a democratic campaign and saying this is a sign that democrats know they are losing. that's not the case. polls show this is a very, very close race. but what this also does is plays this moment squarely in the frame of the reproduct i have rights moment we're having in the country. it's the conversation that
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republicans on the hill do not want to have. instead every time they have an opportunity to talk about the midterms, they try to make this about the economy, inflation and other pieces of that economic puzzle. but that's because you see across the board democrats feeling energized over this idea of reproductive access being blocked from the courts from that dobbs decision. so while republicans might be sticking by walker, this could also be something that again reminds georgia voters of the larger frame of this moment around republicans who may want to take away abortion access and reproductive access from women and people who can bear children, but democrats don't. >> so this impact, whatever it is, is anecdotal. i saw an op-ed today arguing that this controversy won't hurt walker because republicans are never going to back warnock any way, no matter what. others are suggesting it could be a game changer. what do you think? >> it tells us we don't know. there's a lot of things to be
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had. all of us throughout this campaign, the electorate is kind of volatile. and i mean that in you think about all of the policies that they want and how they are feeling about the person they are going to vote for. those don't always connect as closely and cleanly as we used to think. there's not just people don't live in these boxes. and what's happening more is this partisanship. people saying i'm voting for my candidate. i don't care what the other side says. i don't trust what the other side says. that's what we're seeing with republicans. this herschel walker, this is something that republicans have been worried about for a long time. they kind of have already accepted that we know the guy had problems. it doesn't change anything.
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if it was something new, it would be different. because of the partisanship, what we're seeing is they are going to stick with him. this is going to continue to be a close race. >> i want to shift to north carolina 37 you spoke to the senate candidate there. and recent polls have them tide with congressman ted bud. her campaign says it needs more resources. here's what politico says about the question for democrats. ooip going to read it. whether to spend the war chest in races deemed toss ups or to take a chance like the one this the tar heel state that favor republicans. democrats already have a tall order in trying to win pennsylvania and wisconsin, states president biden won in 2020, as well as defend incumbents in arizona, nevada and new hampshire. party officials are still spending in north carolina, but not nearly as much. you know how this works. you know how these decisions get made. what say you about this controversy?
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>> i think that national democrats are sleeping on north carolina. when i spoke to them directly, did she think democrats needed to spend more to help her win. she says she's taking on an on slot of negative ads. she served as the chief jthsz on the north carolina supreme court. in north carolina judges are elected. her challenger has not won statewide. he's a member of congress, not a senator. so i think there's opportunity here. beazley's campaign has been sounding the alarm. they are saying her campaign is underfunded. her team is making the case that democrats are leaving it all on the table here. i definitely think there's things to support it. i will note that in the month of september, republicans spent $4 million more in the north carolina senate race than democrats.
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they are hitting her on crime, on her record as chief justice saying she's soft on crime. she needs money. there are 34 days until election day. decisions need to be made, but the balance in the senate is on the line here and one race can make all the difference. >> i want to ask about two of the other states mentioned. the democratic senate candidates in both states have arguably a really great summer, but since labor day, republicans have done better. ron johnson leading in most of those wisconsin polls. the political report shifted from leaning democ races right now? and if that's where democrats choose to spend money, can it make the difference? >> i think both of those are states that for months all of the stories were about how dr. oz seemed out of touch. ron johnson, even though they are used to ron johnson, they weren't really feeling him like
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they used to. and that kind of scared republicans. republicans are very good about coalescing at the last minute. i mean that on the strategists in d.c. and also voters. when people look at, okay, this is a race that can change the senate, these are the things you want to do, that starts to change their minds. that's what we're seeing here. so democrats are going to have to make a choice between the states that they have felt really good about and the state s they maybe should be feeling better about. north carolina is one of them. democrats have felt burned before. but it's one of those states that could be a little more money. especially looking at colorado and nevada where democrats are in danger of losing those two senate seats. as they move forward, it should be on there a lot more. >> there is interesting news out
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of colorado. because former president george w. bush is going make a rare appearance on the campaign trail. he's going to fundraise for the republican senate candidate joe o' dea, who has said he will not back donald trump. it seems like any republican who opposes trump risks losing republican financial support. but i wonder if in that state, that's a smart move for him with true independents, true swing voters, voters who lean right, who frankly aren't fans of donald trump. he's not for an abortion ban, who are more until the middle on the abortion question. how do you see that race? >> i think colorado people should be assuming is a purple state. which is why you have seen democrats pour money into that senate race. >> can bush help? >> i think he can absolutely help. to be very clear, bush would not
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be wading into this race without the decree, if you will, that this candidate would not back donald trump. there's a deep disdain that the bushes have for donald trump. he has disrespected the office of the presidency. and i think bush matters there. the question, though, with 34 i days before election day, early voting starting in many places very soon, including colorado. how many people have made up their mind? and will an appearance from former president bush truly change enough minds or is this just working to gin upturnout? maybe this is a play for people who involved and said i don't know if i'm beginning to vote. if they vote, they would vote for the republican candidate. getting folks excited, maybe that encouraging some folks to
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return to absentee ballot. >> let's talk about joe biden. he's been doing fewer fundraisers. is that because he's not invited. talk about the strategy there. >> it's a great question. i was just texting with a white house official asking this question. what do you make of this reporting and really some criticism that the president is not doing enough travel. that person wrote back and said he's traveling four days this week. he was traveling twice a week during september and he's going to continue to travel not just when it comes to looking at storm damage because he's supposed to be meeting with marco rubio and ron desantis, but when it comes to midterm travel. so the white house is saying joe biden is out there. he's doing the best he can. he's making this case. but there are critics saying there are some candidates who don't think it's going to be helpful for them in tight races
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to have president biden come out. his approval ratings while they have gone up a little bit in the last few weeks, he was still at some really record lows. that having to deal with inflation, having to deal with crime and some of the pitches you're hearing from republicans as they are trying to paint democrats as soft on crime. there's a lot going on there. president biden is something to watch and really take into it. the strategy is that he will go to races where the white house and where those candidates think he can help out, especially as turnout is going to be so critical ahead of the midterms. >> the all the being poured into these races still boggles the mind. thank you all very much. tune into the show weekends at 4:00 p.m. eastern. and with new episodes airing on peacock on mondays and tuesdays. at this hour, president biden is checking out the storm damage in florida.
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the action that people who live there want to see the federal government take. that's next. plus new developments in the mar-a-lago documents investigation. why donald trump and his lawyers are now calling on the u.s. supreme court to jump in. and deal or no deal, elon musk says he's willing to buy twitter again. what it could mean for the midterms and 2024. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ng reports,on" ly on msnbc. ♪ ♪ i'm getting vaccinated with prevnar 20. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i'm asking about prevnar 20. because there's a chance pneumococcal pneumonia could put me in the hospital. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like copd, asthma, or diabetes, you may be at an increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20 is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20 if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients.
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right now in florida, president biden's helicopter is above fort myers, where he's surveying the damage. we're just getting these pictures in. the president say seething firsthand the devastating impact from the storm that left at least 112 people dead. hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses remain without power. this is also a profound test for the president to respond to folk who is have been critical of the
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response and now we're seeing the chopper pitures. there are critics who say wealthier areas have been prioritized in the recovery efforts. >> do you feel ignored here? >> yes, very much. >> how do you feel about that? >> because it's a black and hispanic neighborhood. i'm quite sure other neighborhoods that have richer people, they've got help quicker than we got help. >> they work just as hard as people on the beach did. they are not getting the attention here because it's not the beach. it's not a seaside home. they still work just as hard as the people on the beach. >> this is a predominantly black neighborhood. >> the president will also be meeting with his potential 2024 challenger republican governor ron desantis, both have said they are going to put politics aside and deal with what continues to be an incredibly
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challenging situation on the ground. i want to bring in shaq brewster, who is at a disaster recovery center in fort mers. and white house correspondent mike memoli. shaq, what do the floridians you talked to want the president to know and understand about what they are going through? >> reporter: it's the bottom line messaging that you're hearing from them is they need help and want help as soon as possible. i'm seeing that today at this disaster recovery center. it's a location where people are able to come, stand in line and wait to talk to fema. many people in the line telling many they don't know what they are going to say or what they need to do. they want to know how to start this process of recovering after losing their business, after losing their home, after having to clear out their home. in this parking lot, you're seeing insurance companies, state agencies, they say they need help. this is the place they are coming to get that help. i have also been traveling the city of fort myers. president biden is getting that tour now, but as i have been on the ground, so many people saying i want him to come to my
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neighborhood. i want him to see what i have been seeing and see what i have been dealing with. it's a question i have been asking people. if the president were to hear what you need and if he were to see what you're dealing with, what do you want him to see? listen to some of the responses that i have been hearing, starting with lisa, who five minutes before our conversation just got power back in her town that's about five miles away from shore. >> he needs to help us get this city back together. because it's really damaged. >> i would be surprised. it's just unbelievable. i think he has compassion. i also think governor ron desantis is doing a great job. >> reporter: some of the other conversations i had with people, they said it's great he's coming. i'm glad he's seeing this, but i
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lost my job. i worked on the beach. i don't know what i'm going to do tomorrow or next week. so it's getting those questions answered of what happens after that immediate emergency once they might have a temporary housing situation. what happens in those days and weeks to come? those are the answers that folks are looking for at this point. >> let me ask you about that specific question we raised in the lead in that kerry sanders talked to folks. the president will have an opportunity to speak directly to communities of color. people who feel ignored historically by the government's response to disaster recovery efforts. what's his message? and does the white house have a plan to make sure that the relief is equitable? >> the president is in florida today, according to white house officials, really to communicate this message that's been consistent as he's responded to disasters across the country. the federal government will do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to get these people and these communities on their feet. it's catastrophic to use the
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fema administrator used in briefing with reporters in fort myers and the surrounding areas. it really includes both challenges for the short-term in terms of the immediate relief that's being offered and then the longer term recovery and the effect wit fit challenges that are difficult. when you talk about the short-term, white house officials say they are taking their cues from the officials most familiar with the needs on the ground. that's the state. so that's really how fema has been trying to be responsive at this poim point. also in terms of the long-term recovery systems, this is a challenge that goes beyond fema. the director from fema was talking about the fact that her agency has issued what they call a mission directive to other agencies within the government. it's a department of houing and urban twomt. it's hud that has to help with communities that need to be entirely rebuilt in some cases.
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we know one of the real challenges is the digital divide. you have entire communities being told reach out to fema. while some can't reach them or can't get their phones to work. they can't get online to request assistance. one of the things that the fema director said is they have officials on the ground walking around communities with eye pads to try i pads to find these individuals. that's cells on wheels and cells on light towers to increase the broadband access temporarily to allow people to get the resources they need. but obviously, this is a significant challenge, a long-term challenge for this president. and one that the administration says they are going to be committed to for the long-term. >> thank you both very much. donald trump calls on the supreme court, but is it a risk asking justices to intervene in the fight over those records seized from mar-a-lago. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. ing "chg reports," only on msnbc. ♪ what will you do? will you make something better?
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compound. the appeal centers on who should be able to view the documents at heart of the criminal investigation. for more, let's bring in ken dilanian and carol lam, a former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. what exactly do trump's lawyers want the supreme court to do here? what might it mean for the toj investigation? >> it's a fairly narrow request by trump's lawyers. it's not clear how, if at all, it would affect the investigation. essentially what they are asking to do is essentially they want the special master to be able to review the 100 classified documents seized at mar-a-lago after the 11th circuit decided that that should not happen. those classified documents should not be within the scope of the special masters review. what they are not challenging is the notion that the fbi can continue using those classified documents as part of their criminal investigation, which is what the justice department cares about most. it's not even clear what would
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happen if let's say the supreme court decided to grant this and the special master was given the opportunity to review the class if ied documents. he's already taken the position that he believes these documents are properly classified and they are the property of the u.s. government, not donald trump. so he may not even want to review them. even if he did, the fbi would still have them and be using them in their investigation. now i'm jumping ahead because the supreme court has not even agreed to take this case and it's not clear they will. >> one of the many arguments that the trump team included in the 38-page appeal is that the mar-a-lago documents arrived there when he had the authority to declassify them. president trump was still the president of the united states when any documents bearing classification markings were delivered to his residence in palm beach, florida. what do you make of that argument that in his role as commander-in-chief, he had the authority not just to declassify, but even to possess those documents.
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what's your impression of the appeal as a whole? >> let me start with the part. the impression as the appeal is whether it's effective or not depends on who your audience is and your goal is. i believe that donald trump's ultimate goal here is simpy to interfere with the investigation as much as possible. they have actually found a district court judge in florida who is not opposed to exercising a lot of control over the investigation as well. and that -- if that is your goal, and i believe it is, that is the most damaging aspect of all of this to the government because at this stage, the government needs to control its investigation. a lot of rights attached to a defendant once charges are brought. once a case is heading towards trial. that's when a lot of of rights attached to a defendant. but in an investigation, somebody has to control the investigation and that has to be
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the government. the government has to be free to move on its own time scale torks interview witnesses, to look at documents, to pursue legaler theories and maybe they throw those theories out once they looked at the evidence. what donald trump's team and the judge here are doing is they are attaching a lot of rights that normally don't attach until a criminal trial is about to get underway. that's making it more difficult for the government to move forward. so if that is your goal, and i believe that is the goal here, to the trump team, it's just let's keep filing motions and keep distracting the government and making them answer our pleadings. so i think that's where we are right now. >> as a distraction, as a delay tactic, do we have a sense of how long that this could set things back? >> it's hugely depends on whether the supreme court agrees to even hear this request for a
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stay. and i would add it is a distraction, but the justice department has a lot of lawyers that they can throw at this problem dedicated to answering these appellate briefs. they are not the same people conducting the investigation. the interviews in this case are proceeding a pace that we believe the fbi is trying to talk to everybody who has any knowledge about how these documents were handled and what former president trump knew about them. so they may try to distract and stymy this investigation, but i don't think it's going to be successful. >> trump fired off a lengthy statement on his truth social platform accusing the national archives of losing documents from past presidential administrations, seeming to suggest the agency has lost records from the trump administration that they say they haven't received. then he ended it all by saying, i want my documents back. i mean, it seems like he doesn't understand these aren't his documents, right? >> that's right. the judge was clear. these aren't trump's documents.
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these documents belong to the government. it's really not clear what the former president is asking for even of the supreme court. it's a bit of a muddle. he raises a lot of arguments, including the argument that he has complete control over what is classified and not classified. you have to really step back and look at things analytically, even if the national archives did lose some documents in the past. you have to come forward and say what are you accusing the national archives of doing in this case? because this case seems to be pretty narrow. we're talking about 103 documents that the fbi found in a search of your residence. at this period of time in this case, the judge tried to hold donald trump's feet to the fire on that. ands he was overruled by the judge. judge cannon ultimately has complete authority over there
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this. she tell gaited responsibilities to the special master, but she did not going to defer to the special master. so she doesn't like his rulings. she can change them. >> thank you both so much. more to come on that. democrats are going all in on the abortion fight in wisconsin's race for governor. the most expensive gubernatorial campaign in the nation this midterm cycle. will it work? and pro baseball's american league has a new home run king. 61 years after roger mer ritz hit 61 homers, the yankees aaron judge did him one better pounding a hanging slider into baseball immortality. >> fly ball, there it goes. >> while no american leaguer has ever hit 62, judge is behind sammy sosa and barry bands when it comes to the major league record. but those records were set before baseball started testing
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molly beck. so molly, is governor evers' push working? how are voters responding? >> the entire campaign on the democrats side in the governor's race has been focused on abortion for weeks. it doesn't look like that's going to change in the final weeks of this race. the democrats are hoping that the popular opinion in wisconsin, which statewide polling shows is about 83% wants exceptions to the abortion law in wisconsin right now. they are hoping that that opinion will push enthusiasm to vote. democrats are facing head winds this election season. it's a republican favored year and they are hoping that this issue of abortion that was unexpected many, many months ago for them will be something that will boost enthusiasm in a year
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that they were not expecting to see having more enthusiasm for republicans. >> we are seeing democrats put abortion front and center all across the country. there are a couple ads i want to show you. one of them supporting stacey abrams for governor that features a well-known prosecutor and author telling women, quote, governor brian kemp has now made abortion a crime before many women know they are pregnant. there's another one from red state louisiana is running for congress and this ad shows the delivery room as she's giving birth to her son. she argueses against the state's strict abortion ban. so what about wisconsin's senate race? is abortion resinating there? >> we saw the lieutenant governor running against u.s. senator ron johnson, ron johnson is seking a third term in the senate. a couple weeks ago, especially
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this week, he has kind of shifted his messaging just to abortion and running ads and having events on that. and it's very similar to the messaging in the governor's race right now. there's an ad that tony evers, the incumbent governor, ran this week about some comments that his republican challenger to michaels said many years ago when he ran for senate about whether he believes that young girls, if they are raped, should they be forced to have that baby, if they have become pregnant. he said he didn't believe that was an unreasonable thing to ask. and so there's some ads, some pretty hard-hitting ads on abortion in these races here in wisconsin too. >> two fascinating races to continue to watch. thank you for coming on the program. texas attorney general ken paxton has been ordered to the witness stand in a high profile lawsuit brought by abortion
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rights groups to block state prosecutors from going after providers for offering financial and other aid. paxton went to exfra ordinary lengths to avoid being served with a subpoena in the case, including according to the process server, fleeing his home in a truck driven by his wife who are is a texas state senator. the federal judge quashed the subpoena but then changed his mind after the groups cited the many a attempts they have made to serve him. and now to an exclusive nbc news report. federal investigators are join ing the search for a possible serial killer in northern california. local law enforcement has connected a string of shootings to, quote, what looks like a single person. five people were hot and killed in stockton between early july and late september. now a statewide ballistics data base helped link them to two nonfatal shootings from the spring of 2021. of the seven people shot, five
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wild ride. buckle up. to help us understand what this could even begin to look like, i want to bring in senior reporter ben tomlinson who covers this information and extremism here at msnbc for us, and we're 34 days away from the midterms, if this deal goes through in the coming days, what kind of impact could we be looking at? >> doif first of all, i do want to stress this is not done yet and there are some moving made this morning and twitter says it is not a done deal. that said, it doesn't seem like there is a way out of this so it looks like he will probably own twitter. if it happens before the mid texas, a lot of things can happen quickly. first anyone we talked to at twitter said they will not stick around long if elon musk is their boss for many different reasons and it leaves him with a lot of different ways to handle this website. he has talked about making people pay to tweet, that is a completely ridiculous deal for the service, if you have ever used it before, but that's how he views this, as a way to
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dramatically change it, he wants to dramatically change this service, because of his experience with this service, which is very different than the normal users. >> okay. so "the new york times" writes about what it could be, if it goes through again big asterisk, in 2024, they call it a potential elon election. mr. musk will be firmly in charge, and if twitter still plays anywhere near the role in american political and media culture that it does today, he will emerge as a central polarizing figure in the 2024 election cycle. understanding then the way he operates, what are the chances that he would, as "the new york times" put it, put his thumb on this deal? >> it's very easy for him to do. you know, he would want to take this company private, the second largest investor would be a saudi prince, according to an s.e.c. filing from back in may. there are a lot of different ways he can do it. but a lot of it will be subtle
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by the way. he can make design decisions. for example, when you sign up for truth social, the very first thing you get is a recommended group of people to follow. obviously the first person on truth social is donald trump. after that, there is a bunch of right wing figures. right now on twitter it sort of differs and leads you down the path of sports stars, athletes, musicians, and he doesn't, key change that tomorrow, that's a way it could happen. and he could lift his thumb off the scale for bots for political reasons which is what happened in 2017. there is this view that there are these halcyon days of twitter back in 2017, 2016, with a free speech haven but really what was going on there is that bots went unabated. political bots were allowed to do whatever they wanted to do. these were not people. and he's intentionally, these people are intentionally inflating bots with people under the guise of free speech. >> more to come. we'll see if it actually does go through in time. ben collins, always good to see you, my friend.
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appreciate it. as we speak, nasa's first female led space expedition is traveling at rapid speed toward the international space station after launching just about two hours ago. this mission is still an historic first, like the first female commander for space-x nicole mann who happens to be the first native american woman in space, bringing up a dream caption as a personal memento and the russian cosmonaut on an american rocket, the only woman currently in russia's astronaut corps. her mission by a recently signed seat swap agreement because they want to ensure one american and one russian are on board the space station at all times. it will be about a 29-hour trip. all of the astronauts are signed on for a six-month-long stay. so we'll see you in april, space folks. i hope to see you from 30 rock here on earth, for chris jansing reports every weekday at
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