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biggest thing the governor's done ask and so many others have done have recognized this thing called global warming. the world is changing. it's changing. >> president biden today on global warming as he toured the damage in florida. governor ron desantis for his part praising the president, thanking him for helping him cut through the red tape. that does it for me. you can catch me on the katie phang show right here on msnbc and stream new episodes on the msnbc hub on peacock. the readout with joy reid is up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> change anything? i mean, do you want my opinion? you're listening. not a damn thing. so i don't care if herschel walker paid to abort endangered baby eagles. i want control of the senate.
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>> you hear that? the herschel walker exception. republicans want to eliminate all access to abortion in america for you. but if herschel walker or any other rich republican or republican at all was involved in an abortion, well, we're just going to have to pretend it never happened. plus ron johnson's statement that january 6th was no armed insurrection, that did not age well. it was refuted in the on earth keepers trial the day before he said it. cori bush's challenges to make it to congress, and why the midterm afflictions five weeks have so vitally important. we begin "the reidout" with president biden and the first lady touring the damage florida today, one week after hurricane ian made landfall. the storm killed more than 100 people and left thousands without a home to return to. president biden met with some of those families whose lives were upended, promising to help them rebuild. >> today we have one job and
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only one job, and that's to make sure the people of florida get everything that they need to fully, thoroughly recover. >> the president also met with florida leaders, including republican governor ron desantis. the two played nice, shaking hands and exchanging thank-yous. >> quite frankly, you have national regime media that they wanted to see tampa because they thought that would be worse for florida. that's how these people think. they don't care about the people of this state. they don't care about the people of this community. they want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda. >> national regime media. those comments just so happened to come the same day desantis brought actual relief efforts to a halt in ft. myers. so he could do a photo opposite wearing campaign gear and wearing mysteriously clean knee-high boots.
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those boots sparked a lot of joy with the memes. but he would never use a deadly storm to pursue a political agenda, right? no responsible florida elected official would ignore issues like climate change, which science has proved is contributing to making super storms like ian stronger, would they? well, "the new york times" writes about ian that the storm grew in intensity because it passed over ocean water that was 2 to 3 degrees warmer than normal for this time of year. nasa data shows. its destructive power made worse by rising seas. the water off the southwest coast of florida has risen more than 7 inches since 1965, according to data from the national oceanic and atmospheric administration. finally, warmer air resulting from climate change increased the amount of rain that ian dropped on florida by at least 10%, or about 2 extra inches in some places, according to a study released last week. scientists call florida one of
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the most susceptible states to global warming, yet desantis and other republicans opposed the very effort that the mitigate disasters like ian. more from "the new york times." senators marco rubio and rick scott voted against last year's bipartisan infrastructure law which devotes some $50 billion to help states better prepare for events like ian, because they said it was wasteful. in august they joined every fellow republican in the senate to oppose a new climate law that invests $369 billion in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. he has blocked the pension fund when making investment decisions saying politics should be absence from financial calculations. there's also the fact when senator rick scott was governor in 2015, officials at the florida department of environmental protection reportedly weren't allowed to even use the terms climate change or global warming in any official communications. if you put that aside, it is ironic that desantis would point
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fingers at the media talking about a political agenda when last week as the "miami herald" points out, when it became clear hurricane ian was headed to florida, he advised people in low-lying areas to evacuate. but then he couched the advice with politics. he emphasized that floridians had the freedom not to evacuate, echoing his culture wars and the keep florida free campaign signs people had on their lawns. he wouldn't, he said, mandate anything in the free state of florida. god knows how many lives that may have cost. congresswoman val demings will joining me in a moment. let's bring in former governor charlie crist, the democratic nominee for florida governor. governor, i'm glad you are here tonight. a governor's job in a state like florida that is so vulnerable to storms, you would think that a governor would want to mitigate the harm from those storms.
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but the two previous republican governors, rick scott and desantis, have seemed to do the opposite. your thoughts? >> i couldn't agree more. it's unfortunate because we're paying the price for that. climate change is real. it is a present danger to us. it exacerbated what happened with hurricane ian. you know, as governor before, i held the first climate change summit in the history of florida along with governor schwarzenegger, because i knew at the time that this was a real situation, something we had to face and something we had to realize was going to create bigger storms. i mean, this hurricane that we just had was three times bigger than hurricane charlie. charlie was just as powerful, about 150, 155-mile-per-hour winds, but ian was three times larger because, as you stated in the opening, the warmth of the gulf of mexico is adding to the fuel to the fire of these storms and the impact it's having on real people. and most regrettably, the deaths
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we've experienced in florida. >> you know, you mentioned governor schwarzenegger who was governor of california when you were governor previously in florida. the two of you also shared in common getting excoriated by your then-party for accepting stimulus money from president obama, who was persona no grata. but the idea that florida must now take federal money, because florida is so vulnerable, it's inevitable that every florida governor is going to have to at some point ask the federal government for a lot of money, and it looks like it's going to get worse. what do you make of desantis, who is a tea partier, and who voted against giving money to hurricane sandy, now having to play nice with president biden because he needs the money and don't you think he'll need it again? >> no question. and it's ironic. i mean, as you pointed out, governor desantis voted against helping when hurricane sandy came to the northeastern part of the united states. but now when it's on us, he's in
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the awkward ideological position that doesn't jive with his ideology to have to ask for federal money. listen, i'm glad he's doing it because florida does need it, there's no question about it. but it sure would be nice to be kind of consistent about what you believe versus what you think is an emergency situation, so you have to change what's happening. he just seems to be inconsistent on so many things. he talks about freedom, for example. yet he wants to attack a woman's right to choose. i mean, it's inconsistent all the way. >> you know, it's obvious that governor desantis is hoping to win re-election by sizable enough margins where he can run for president. he's raising a lot of money. he has been doing a lot of politicking while he's out there, according to forcing relief workers to stop working so he can do this photo op in those weird booths. let me play what some people who live in the affected area -- this is ft. myers. our reporter kerry sanders was out there. and this is what he heard. >> do you feel ignored here?
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>> yes, very much. >> no fema, no nothing. >> they work just as hard -- going to make me cry. they work just as hard on the people on the beach did, and they're not getting the attention here because it's not the beach. it's not a seaside home. >> because we are latino, black, poor people, working people, that's the way it is. >> we've seen other reports like that of people who don't live in the sandbelt areas, affluent areas, people coming out to help them. what do you think should be done if you were governor to make sure that the help is spreading and that people are getting what they need? and are you concerned there's not enough help going to inland areas? >> of course, of course. i mean, yesterday i was in ft. myers and i was in a neighborhood called harlem heights. it is mostly african american, it's mostly latino. they said nobody had been there, no cameras had seen what happened to them, and it was devastating, joy. to be there and to be able to
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shine a light on it for some period of time was extremely important. i did that yesterday and not even governor yet. i look forward to the time when i can be the governor of florida, help those people, help all floridians, go to charlie chris.com and give us a hand and we'll get the job done in 34 days. we'll have new leadership in the sunshine state. >> the challenge you're having right now is that desantis appears to have strength in his hand. there is a plurality in your state that has no problem with the cruel immigrationtry, flying people around the country. there's a cruelty factor, let's be honest, inside of republican politics right now. and florida is becoming a more and more republican state. you used to be a republican. you are familiar with those folks. you battled those folks even from within the party. can you diagnose for us what that's about? why is it that it does feel like cruelty is actually quite popular in some ways in the party and it's not hurting desantis, it's actually helping
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him? >> some within the party it's helping him. the democrats, independents, and, frankly, moderate republicans too, joy. i can tell you, a day doesn't go by that i run into people, you know, at the gas station or the cvs or whatever it might be and say, charlie, i'm a republican, i'm voting for you, i've had it, i can't stand the way this man treats other human beings, treating them like cattle, like he did flying the venezuelas in texas up to massachusetts. it's unconscionable. being against lgbtq, being against a woman's right too choose, making harder for minorities throughout the state to vote in this upcoming election, you know, it gets old after a while. they're right, there is an element within the party that likes it, but i think it's a growing group of people that do not like it and want us to be more decent to our fellow men and women. >> we'll definitely be watching what happens in florida. former governor charlie crist, who is running for governor
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again. thank you, sir, very much. let's bring in democratic nominee for united states senate from florida, congresswoman val demings. congresswoman, thank you so much for being here. we have a sound issue on board, so thank you. i'm glad you stuck with us and got through the tech. i do want to ask you a similar question. you know, you're running against marco rubio. he didn't take the move to vote against the allocation that was just passed by the house and the senate for florida, but he didn't show up to vote for it. health department didn't vote at all. the entire florida republican house caucus voted against the money to help florida through hurricane ian. your opponent didn't vote at all. is there any sign that he pays a price for that? >> joy, it's good to be with you. what a strange time we find ourselves in. he should pay a price for that. you know, our primary responsibility as elected
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officials is to protect the health, safety, and well-being of the people we serve. if there's any time we should lay politics aside, it dag gone should be during a natural disaster, especially one like hurricane ian that over 100 people have lost their lives, many people have lost everything they own. this is a tough time. and for marco rubio to not vote at all, which is almost worse because at the very least he could do is to show up and do his job. but to not show up at all, to me, not showing up, being absent is a no. when people needed him the most in florida, in his home state, he was not there. and so there certainly should be a price for him to pay. florida deserves better. >> you know, what's interesting about marco rubio's career just having lived there a long time and watched how he works, he
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seems to walk toward what feels like the middle position, the centrist position on things like immigration where his staff helped write the bill that was going to be finally solving the immigration auxiliary which we know must be solved somehow. and he got really close to it and then rush limbaugh yelled at him and he said i don't want anything to do with it, i'm against it. now on this, he voted because he decided he was a born-again tea partier, hurricane sandy, it's full of pork i don't want to vote for it. when it comes to hurricane ian, it does feel like he can't vote for the money because the magas won't like it and let tea party won't like it, but he won't vote against it. i don't understand what his politics are, and yet he is being rewarded for it in the polls. why do you suppose that is? >> well, joy, you know, our job in this race is to make sure people understand who the real marco rubio is. look what you just talked about about an immigration bill. he'll complain about border
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security, which we all understand we need to secure our borders, no, we do not have open borders. that's almost an insult to the men and women on the ground there, but he appears to be walking towards right thing, but people need to look at where marco rubio always seems to end up, and that's the wrong thing. health department encouraged people not to vote for the immigration bill, which he claims is his bill, after, as you indicated, one person yelled at him. and so bottom line is, what did maya angelo say? when people show you who they are, believe them. when he is needed the most, he has not shown up. florida, again, we deserve better. >> let me ask you. you come from that central florida region. your home is there. we don't know how orange county -- how did orange county
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fare? the tampa area dodged a bullet, but there's a lot of destruction everywhere. how is your district faring? >> joy, it's interesting. i had just gotten back from puerto rico as the chair of the emergency preparedness response and recovery subcommittee. we went there to assess the damage and came home to hurricane ian. look, we had a tremendous amount of flooding here in the area. over 200,000 people were without power. thank god power has been restored for the overwhelming majority of those people. but we had a lot of flooding in the area. we had an opportunity to go out with the fema administrator and have a briefing and tour some areas. and so we certainly have a long ways to go. but we were not hit anywhere near as hard, as you know, the ft. myers, lee county area was. i'm glad the president was there today. i hope that it was a beneficial trip for him and that there weren't too much politics being played down there. but as i said, at this time
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during this critical time in florida's history, we need somebody who wants to govern, somebody that wants to take care of all people, somebody who wants to vote for $18.8 billion in disaster relief for people who desperately need it. and so if there are people who are listening who certainly would lot of to support my campaign, i certainly would love their support. my website is valdemings.com. >> the first rule of being on tv as a candidate, always give out the website, and you've done that. thank you very much. we really appreciate you, congresswoman val demings. thank you. up next, the verdict is in from herschel walker senate republicans. we don't care if he paid for an abortion, lied about it, or was violently abusive towards his family. we want him to win. mily we want him to win
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. republicans are not even pretending anymore as they stirling wagons around georgia senate candidate herschel walker after "the daily beast" exposed his raging hypocrisy. the rich former football star who wants to completely ban abortion for the little people allegedly paid for a girlfriend's abortion in 2009 because the timing of the pregnancy was inconvenient for him. today walker made another appearance on fox denying the allegations. >> it's sort of like everyone is anonymous, everyone is leaking and they want you to confess to something you have no clue about. it's like they're trying to
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bring up my past to hurt me, but they don't know, like, bringing up my past only energizes me to fight harder. >> home team is always helping. on tuesday a longtime georgia politician who's also no stranger to hypocrisy when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, newt gingrich offered this puzzling defense. >> i think he's the most important senate candidate in the country because he'll codo -- do more to change the senate by his confidence and deep commitment to christ, by the degree to which he's been through a long, tough period. he had a lot of concussions coming out of football. >> concussions are really going to help. >> today senator lindsey graham, always so steadfast in his beliefs, piped in on twitter saying it didn't work when they tried to destroy brett kavanaugh and will not work in georgia today. graham echoed senator rick scott who said tuesday that republicans will stand with
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walker, the same medicare fraud adjacent rick scott who wouldn't condemn the racist attack against former transportation secretary elaine chao. shows you how much they really care about women because in their race to depend walker, republicans have literally exposed themselves, and right-wing radio host dana lossh made it clear as day. >> i don't care if herschel walker paid to abort baby eagles. i want control of the senate. if the "daily beast" story is true, you're telling me walker used his money to reportedly pay some skank for an abortion, and warnock wants to use all of our monies to pay a whole bunch of skanks for abortions? >> you got it.
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joining me is the host of "a word" with jason johnson. now i understand the cos molecule the fetus of a black female ranks lower than baby eagles. your witness. >> i'm absolutely impressed that all of them are just so blatantly obvious at this point. it saves us so much trouble. we don't have to pretend for the next couple weeks this has anything to do with policy. we don't have to pretend that when herschel walker does his mumble rapper impression when he has his debate with rafael -- we don't have to frond anything he says actually matters. all they need is a warm black face to rubber stamp mitch mcconnell. and i'm sure if herschel walker actually managed to get himself into the senate and was directed around the room because he can't read, that's all they want. they don't care about abortion, life, sex, morals.
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you can't tell me newt gingrich is a stronger christian than a man who's an actual reverend of the church that mlk used to preach at. it's all about power and now they're being obvious about it. >> oh, jason, you know newt gingrich has been married three times. he did it until he got it right. didn't he marry his high school geometry teacher first and then dumped her and then -- let's move on. let's play herschel walker's new ad. >> as everyone knows, i had a real battle with mental health. even wrote a book about it. by the grace of god, i've i've overcome it. one is a preach who doesn't tell the truth. i'm herschel walker, saved my grace. >> i mean, first of all, redemption requires to you admit fault and asking for forgiveness. the thing is that will be enough. you and i both said the same thing on twitter. he will not lose one single
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voter because of this scandal. >> no. >> right? >> no, no. yeah, joy, here's the thing. as much as that ad gives me really strong honk if you love jesus energy, it doesn't really say anything about the scandals. it doesn't explain to the public why i paid for an abortion with a check. it doesn't explain why my son, who used to be an advocate for me is saying i was terrible. it doesn't address the accusations or the evidence against him. it's just him kind of talking on the air. and we knew that was going to be the case. what i think is kind of critical here, though, we've been pointing this out throughout the campaign season. it's not an issue of herschel walker gaining or losing votes at this point. there's not many swing voters in georgia. the issue is how many republicans decide i just can't bring myself to vote for them because they're not going to switch to warnock. if they decide they can't vote for herschel walker, that might be enough for reverend warnock
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to win. >> and they're ticket-splitting, weird ticket-splitting energy. i do have to play this for you because before dana loesh told it, matt walsh told it first. let me give him credit in 2011. he said people weren't listening. here's matt walsh. >> girls between the ages of like 17 and 24 is when they're technically most fertile, okay? that's biological. that's a fact. all right, i'm stating facts of the that's all i'm doing. but what happened recently, and this is the fourth fact, recently in the last 30 years or so, we decided that that's way too young to start a family. so what i'm saying is that the problem is not, per se, teenage pregnancy, it's unwed pregnancy. >> i feel like some of us who were a bit more cynical about it may be the whole pro-life thing has never been real. it's really great branding but
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it isn't real. they just want power and they would love to have women under control and they feel women are out of control. the problem is modernity. it's that modern women are harder to control. they go off and get their fancy college educations, do the stuff men can do, they want to play sports like men and all of a sudden don't want to be under control. and a teenager who's stuck at home raising a bunch of children she has no idea how to raise is actually controllable. we can have an honest conversation now that republicans are breath takingly willing to have it is that modernity is what bothers them. >> that's the hottest tinder profile in gilead, just looking for a nice undereducated woman under the age of 18 to pop out my babies and listen to me talk about how smart i am. we know that's what these guys are about. we know that's what the women who support them are about. the issue is how many people who will be under the thumb or the
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watchful eye of these kinds of politicians are willing to take that fear and anxiety and turn it into votes. because i promise you, let's say herschel walker loses the race and raphael warnock wins, that's great. but guess what, if brian kemp wins re-election, he's going to try to snatch the rights too. it's important to recognize raphael warnock and stacey abrams are the combination you need for georgia. >> that's important to note. kemp is getting a huge pass on being one of the most anti-abortion, pro-state control of women senators in the country and he's sliding by because herschel walker is so bananas. that's the other major point here. jason johnson, always appreciate you, thank you. coming up next, senator ron johnson he had the gall to claim january 6th was not an armed insurrection. on the same day as the united states government presented audio evidence of oath keepers discussing bringing, wait for it, weapons to fight for trump.
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>> huh, the remarks are a delusional and cruel description of what really happened. the breached barricades, broken glass and bodies trampled, our sacred halls occupied, vandalized and looted by a group that included paramilitary types armed with ar15-style rifles and other weapons, even hiding in trees. there's new evidence that was insurrectionists taking arms against the united states. elmer stewart rhodes, the oath keepers' leader and his come patriots are on trial. federal prosecutors played an audio recording in court of rhodes in an alleged planning meeting that discussed plans to bring weapons to washington.
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>> meanwhile, in other january 6th news, kelli ward, chair of the arizona republican party asserted her fifth amendment right in her deposition. this should surprise no one. joining me now, elie mystal, justice correspondent for the nation. ron johnson essentially saying these were just people demonstration how you might use a flag pole differently. no. saying that means it's not an arm insurrection. we've known from video evidence, evidence from the stewart rhodes trial, but also from the evidence played in the january 6th hearings previously that there were people with bats, people with guns, people with ar15s, rifles and pistols. this was an armed insurrection. is there any question of that? >> how much do you want to bet
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that ron johnson is one of the senators that we just learned about from the oath keepers trial that was crying on the day of the january 6th? how much do you want to bet ron johnson was one of those people hiding in his office crying, afraid of what would happen to him if his constituents, his own people got to him that day? the one thing we can't forget about january 6th? mob that was unleashed upon our capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power, they weren't just looking for democrats. oh, they would have done horrible things had they found any democrats, but they weren't just looking for democrats. they were looking for mike pence, mitt romney, they were looking for anybody who wasn't on team maga. so for ron johnson to be out there saying it wasn't an armed insurrection when he knows full well the danger he and his colleagues are in, the only words used to describe him is a coward, because the only things republicans elect at this point in time are cowards, people that
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lack the integrity of their own words and that simply lack the courage of their own convictions, and ron johnson, as usual, shows himself to be a coward with these comments. prosecutions are ongoing on the oath keepers. we've already learned, as you pointed out, the extent to which they were armed, the extent to which they have been planning this attack. today in the trial, information came out that stewart rhodes was texting roger stone on november 7th. we got to roll, we got to do something. so this was in the works. this armed insurrection was in the works for a while and we're learning that at the trial. >> what are the elements that the prosecution would need to learn? sedition conspiracy is not a thing that's charged often. what are the elements they would need to prove? it's more than just a bad, awful riot and it's a seditious
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conspiracy? >> one of the funny things is their defense lawyer right now, the key defense for the oath keepers right now is saying that they weren't involved in the bulk of the violence on january 6th. they were just doing a little insurrection. they weren't in the bulk of the violence. it's a legal defense because what you have to show is that they intended to stop the peaceful transfer of power. they intended to violently disrupt the actions of congress. it's a fact-intensive thing to prove. you don't have to take their word for it. you don't have to, oh, they say they weren't intending it, that's not how it works. but you do have to show through evidence, text messages, videotapes that they had a plan that they set in motion to stop a session of congress and the peaceful transfer of power. we've all kind of seen what they did, but you have to prove that
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they intended to do what they did. >> right, right. let me make a quick turn. i would be remiss to have you right here in front of us right now on our tv without asking you about, oh, clarence. clarence is the person who apparently oversees the 11th circuit. that is his sort of area. and so each justice -- i want you to explain why clarence thomas gets to be the person that decides to try to undo what the special master he asked for in the 11th circuit has done regarding those stolen documents. >> yeah, so i want to take down the temperature a bit. as terrible and as corrupt as i worry that thomas is with regard to issues concerning his wife, the fact that he oversees the 11th circuit isn't the craziest issue. we have 13 circuit courts in this country, only nine supreme court justices. some might argue that we should have more supreme justices
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because there are 13 circuits. but i will leave that for audio -- another day. clarence thomases is one of those who oversees the 11th circuit. that job is largely ministerial. when an emergency appeal comes up, the justice looks over it, yes, this appears to be an actual appeal. the government, would you like to respond to this appeal? that is what's happening now. he gave the doj until tuesday to hear it. now, he does have the power to dismiss it out of hand or refer it to the full court. now, almost always with things of any kind of import, they will refer it to the full court and then the full court will decide whether or not to hear the appeal. i would only get worried if thomas doesn't refer it to the full court, right? it's a ministerial function. at 30,000 feet, a ministerial function over a set of allegations that could implicate his wife.
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so if clarence thomas had -- the scientific word is character. if he had any character, he would understand that just for appearances say, he would cede this function to another supreme court justice to avoid the appearance of impropriety, but clarence thomas doesn't care about the appearance of impropriety, because he is improper. >> she ain't got to email nobody, but she probably will anyway. >> that's also what she does. >> hook me up. thank you very much. i appreciate you, elie mystal. congresswoman cori bush joins me on her political rise despite adversity and the ongoing battle for abortion access. we'll be right back.
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three days after cori bush got to washington as the first black woman ever to represent missouri in congress, she was already facing off with insurrectionists, readying herself for a fight. later that day, january 6th, hours after police cleared the domestic terrorists, congresswoman bush introduced her first piece of legislation. she asked that congress investigate her republican colleagues who helped insight the assault on the capitol by rejecting the results. cori bush is a fighter, and in her new book she writes about how she has overcome a great
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number of challenges from, being unhoused, underpaid and sexually assaulted by three different men whom she thought she could trust only to emerge stronger. in her book, she writes, i would not be the leader i am if it were not for the challenges i faced to be where i am, and today, i work to make the path easier for others. congresswoman cori bush of missouri joins me now, friend of the show. appreciate you doing this congratulations on the book. i saw your unboxing. >> you did? >> i saw you and ayanna pressley and rashida tlaib doing an unboxing of your book so i know you're super proud of it. writing a book is a whole challenge. but your life has been a challenge, so talk a little bit about -- a lot of what your book is about is trauma and experiencing trauma. how did that propel you to want to be a part of the political system? >> you know, it was not something that was a dream of mine. it wasn't something that i aspired to.
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i actually ran the other way because my dad's been in politics for most of my life. so i said i'll never do that. but it was like you said, it was through all of the trauma and just, you know, wondering if it's, like, is it me?do i just,g wrong with me? i'm working full-time, but i don't have enough money. the day i get paid, to get pay all my bills. i can't pay my student loans because i have to be able to pay rent and car. i didn't have enough money to put my children in the same daycare that i worked at, and i worked there for ten years. just so many things. and then the challenges of being uninsured, challenges of sexual assault and domestic violence. but it was through michael brown was killed, after 400 days of protest, realizing that some of this is policy violence, in the only way to fix it, the
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only way to make sure my son is not the next hashtag, that my daughter is not the next hashtag, but i'm not sitting back later thinking, i would've, should've, could've, looking at my son's body. this is the least, the least i could do is put myself on the line this way. that's why i do. it >> i'm gonna read a bit of your book. my work is to move with purpose, knowing that every minute people in our country are walking into new instances of preventable heard in that i have a responsibility to dismantle the systems of violence that too often cause that hurt. but the systems of violence that you had to face, literally on day one of your sojourning congress, literally, you walked into a system of violence. you have had to move your office because marjorie greene of georgia was harassing you in the hallways of congress. i wonder if the experience you, had so different from the way most people's career in congress starts, has changed the way you look at the system. is there something wrong with our system that allows that
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violence to permeate the very hallowed halls of congress itself? >> absolutely. some of those folks are in the system. they are part of the system. we can look back over decades. we can look back over millennia. look, folks those folks are part of the system. that is a part of, we're talking about, people who have been in government. that's how we had slavery in this country. that's how we had it jim crow laws in this country. that's why we have mass incarceration's today, and so many other things. we can't even give a livable wage in this country. we can't even close the racial wealth gap. we still have environmental injustice and a housing crisis that's off the charts in this country, in 2022. absolutely. i think about being in the capital that day when that insurrection happened, i remember being in the chambers
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and in the gallery listening to one of my colleagues say, those are my people outside. i'm standing up for my people that are outside. well when you are saying people, this republican said, that you are people we scale walls. an hour or two later. you are people kill people. your people put our lives in danger. you are people are the ones that are, some of them, are in jail right now for this and hopefully if there are any people in congress that actually good participate in the overturning of the democratic election, if any of them participated, they have to be investigated. they need to be expelled from congress. if there are criminal charges, those should happen. i take my job seriously. there are law lives on the line and i will not let folks that have a political, that are there for, to play politics, folks that don't understand
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what it is like to live with your skin being the problem that people see, your skin causing reaction in people simply because you showed up. i will fight as long as i have breath to make sure that my people are safe. and if it means calling them out, i'll do it. >> i will know that none of the people didn't join their people, they hid from their, people are more just as scared as you are. i want to ask you about the issue of abortion. you spoke so personally about on the issues you have had to deal with. when you hear people casually calling names, william who chose to get an abortion, when you see ten-year-olds having to be taken out of their state in order to have a medical procedure the likely could save their lives. a ten-year-old could die having a baby. give me your reaction to that. >> it's someone's body that does not, it should not be the business of anyone else.
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like my grandmother would say, mind your own self business. that ten-year-old, what did we just teach that ten year old? what would have happened if that ten year old would have lost their life? what are we saying to society when society can go back and say, hey, your body belongs to me. >> yeah. >> they can say your body belongs to me but nobody is talking about, like i said before, regulating sperm. and, this is life or death. when we look at. it and i always do this step. representative barbara lee gave it. the leading cause of black death for black women was to sepsis that comes along, before roe v. wade, was to sepsis that came back to unsafe abortions. we can go back. they're >> absolutely. the book is called the foreigner. everybody, please check it out. congratulations on the book. there it is. congresswoman cori bush, thank
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