you take a step back and look at governments throughout the democratic world. the battle between central banks, which often largely operate independently or are >> as if we needed more data points about why fossil fuels are not ideal. >> do you want to trust your fortunes to putin, the crown prince, and exxon? >> you look at all of them, you look at the playing cards of the people who control those fortunes and it's not a good group of people. thank you, chris. >> thanks to you at home for joining us tonight. last summer when herschel walker first started running for u.s. senate seat in georgia, there was something very strange about this campaign. he almost never spoke.

people spoke about him. donald trump talked endlessly about what a great football player he was and how he would be great candidate and a great u.s. senator and oh, did i mention what great football player herschel walker was? walker himself would make appearances at events and shake hands and occasionally read a short prepared statement about how much he loved america. but even cnn ran a headline last fall that said, herschel walker is often seen and seldom heard. toward the end of last year he went on a radio show. it was friendly territory. conservative host asked walker to let loose on senator warknock, his democratic opponent. and in that moment, we found out exactly why walker's campaign tried to never let him speak. >> he brings up voting rights, the john lewis voting rights bill. what do you say about rafael trying to push this during this

time to try to what i call federalize elections? >> you know what's sad about that? you use the name of a great man to bring up something to bad is terrible to do. senator lewis is one of best senators telephoner been and for african-americans is incredible. to throw his name on the bill of voting rights is a shame. first of all, you know, you look at the bill, it just doesn't fit what john lewis stood for. >> okay. first of all, the late john lewis, not a senator, served in the house for 40 years. but even if you want to let that slide, the john lewis voting rights act is named after john lewis because it was literally the culmination of john lewis' life's work. herschel walker's version of that history is literally so far off the map it is on another man et. -- planet. this is far from the only time

that he got in trouble just by opening his mouth in public. here is an ad that rafael warnock ran this year that is nothing but a clip of herschel walker giving an interview. >> i want to say something that i probably shouldn't. you know right now i have something that can bring me to a real room that would clean you from covid and walk through this. as you walk through the door, it would kill any covid on your body. when you leave, it kills the virus as you leave this here product. they don't want to talk about that. they don't want to hear about that. >> i'm rafael warnock and a prove this message. >> that's the whole ad. claiming he has a dry mist that can kill all of your covid. another time responding to the school shooting in uvalde, texas, walker proposed a department that can look at young men that is looking at women that is looking at social

media. i mean, sure. okay. there was a time he seemed to suggest there is no point in investing in clean air in the united states because china will just take our clean air and send their bad air over here. at least i think that's what he was saying. and walker routinely exaggerated his business exploits and he lied about graduating from college and he pretended to have worked for law enforcement when he didn't. then there are years his food company donated 15% of profits to charities but it never did. there are walker statements which are really extremely questionable. and then there are his actions. herschel walker has a well documented history of domestic abuse, including allegations that he held a gun to his ex-wife's head and threatened to kill her multiple times. and, of course, there were the revelation that's walk her hidden the existence of one and then two and then three previously unacknowledged

children. but maybe the truly god smacking thing here isn't the latest bombshell about herschel walker's past that the supposedly staunchly anti-abortion candidate urged and paid for an exgirlfriend's abortion. he denies the allegations. the ex-girlfriend provided literal receipts to back up her story. maybe the gob smacking thing isn't even that republicans appear to be rallying around herschel walker more fervently than ever in the wake of this latest revelation, a church full of evangelicals applauded and prayed over walker a day after the allegations broke. walker's campaign claims it raised over $500,000 since that story came out. maybe the gob smack thing here is really how broken the republican party is that this guy was ever allowed to become the nominee for a u.s. senate seat in the first mace. and for a senate seat that could

very well decide which party controls the upper chamber next year. it's not that republicans didn't know who this guy was. national republican leaders were freaking out and, by the way, speaking out well over a year ago about herschel walker getting into the race because they knew what a disaster he was. even this new story of walker allegedly having paid for an abortion. that was reportedly an open secret in georgia politics. a top gop operative in the state told "politico" when brought to the attention of walker's campaign staff months ago, reaction wasn't they're not going to say that because it never happened. it was like everything else. people aren't going to find out. turns out they did. but herschel walker was donald trump's choice. and the republican party apparently had no appetite for fighting donald trump on this one. even mitch mcconnell got onboard

early on. herschel walker, republican nominee for senate, this was a group effort. of course, the truly, truly gob smack thing about all of this is that it may not matter. any of it. herschel walker may very well win this senate race despite being such a disaster of a candidate. that's the bet that donald trump and the rest of the republican party have gone all in on. that in the end, having an r after his name is the only thing herschel walker will need to claim victory in the state of georgia. joining us now is the political reporter at the atlanta constitution. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> so first, tell me how this is all playing out in the state of georgia. we have the fund-raising numbers. half a million dollars raised by the walker campaign. is there a sense that voters may be softening in terms of support for walker heading into the final stretch of this election? >> there certainly is that

sense. it is hard to tell right now how this all shakes out. he's denying the reports, of course. he has a credibility issue. this similar allegations come out against brian camper, other republicans, and they denied it. there would be a significant number of republicans who believe them. but in herschel walker's ok, we've seen all sorts of ads, damaging news reports and other, you know, other public airings of his lies and exaggerations of his conspiracy theories, of falsehoods. that undercut his credibility. so i'm hearing from republicans even before this but certainly accelerating now who are just very concerned about his candidacy. and who feel like even though they know he'll vote the way they want him to vote, he'll vote with mitch mcconnell on a number of issues, they're worried about his fitness for office right now. >> well, yeah. you said credibility. right? that implies that there may be a trust issue in terms of reliability. when we talk about republican voters, they're not the same as republican politicians in this

the state of georgia. what you are hearing from the republicans who are on the ticket who have skin in this game like brian kemp? how is that campaign treated the walker revelations? >> it's really interesting. while we see national republicans rally around herschel walker, they have no other choice, too late to take him off the ballot. georgia is critical to gop efforts to flip the u.s. senate. so there is no backing down or backing away from herschel walker for the national republicans. local republicans are steering clear. governor kemp made it very clear that, you know, he supports the republican ticket. but he's going to run his own campaign. he won't be tied to herschel walker. he said as much in an interview even before this daily beast report came out. other republicans, too, are kind of side stepping the issue. they have their own races to run. they want to focus on their own fates in november rather than tying themselves to herschel walker. >> what about the issue of abortion? there is the issue of herschel walker's character, right? but then there is the fundamental issue of abortion.

and this brings it right back into the fore. we know that nationally that's been an issue. what about in the state of georgia? does that matter here in this particular case? or has this -- has the trustworthiness and hypocrisy eclipsed the issue about women's access to reproductive choice? >> republicans want to be talking about anything but abortion right now. and this steered the conversation back to the dobbs decision back to the supreme court ruling that overturn roe v. wade and the issue that democrats hope change the electorate for them. like stacy abrams and herschel walker's opponent, they've been rallying for months now, even before the supreme court decision came out saying what a dangerous decision, you know, what -- how that would undermine, you know, our legal framework here in the u.s. trying to energize women particularly women to go vote and change the electorate. and so now they got this issue back in the center stage. at a very time republicans would rather be talking about the

economy, rather be talking about inflation, rather be talking about anything but abortion. >> greg bluestein from atlanta journal constitution, a.j.c., thank you for your reporting, greg. now we want to turn to long time republican strategist mike murphy who has advised republican candidates including john mccain and jeb bush and mitt romney. he is co-host of hats on tap podcast. i need -- we need wisdom about where the republican party is, where it come from, where it is going. and i got to ask you, i mean, it feels like there would have been a time, maybe, when republicans might not have called for walker to leave the race. but would not have rallied around him. is this the after effect of the trump presidency when they rally around politics? >> i think the strategy at the

top is to try to survive donald trump who is almost always a wrecking ball in the general election. and in the old days, we would have stopped this herschel thing in the primary. and not nominated such a weak candidate. particularly in a year like this where you don't have to be a great republican candidate to win. so this is just the kind of disaster, you know, the practical politicians don't want. now we're stuck with him. accident have bag fan club. what does have a big fan club is winning that georgia seat. and then they surround him with good staff and, you know, he'll vote right. the question is in a seat the republicans should be winning this year will be sort of allegations that it's not the first one from him, derail the walker candidacy. i have to say in a election, i'm not sure it will. it's a close race despite this. >> if he wins, does this become a cautionary tale or instructive one? does it suggest, hey, by the

skin of your teeth, you got -- your guy over the finish line. or is the lesson learned you can literally nominate anybody? >> you know, i think different wings of the party will each take the lesson they want to see. and donald trump, of course, will make it worse if walker is elected by talking about him as a future vice-presidential candidate. so there will be mile long lines to psychiatrists offices in new york and l.a. because what could be a worse liberal nightmare? the fact is he's unfit. and in the old days we would have blocked the candidacy like. this the stakes are so high in this election, you know, leader mcconnell and others are going to hold their nose and try to pull him over. i'm interested in the debate. we've seen in the public, have tape earlier. if i was a campaign manager, aid pay someone to throw him a tight spiral or something and move it from anything to do with the senate race. make it about his celebrity. because now with these allegations and the hypocrisy,

it could be a very rough debate for him. >> just get it back to football is basically the strategy. i want to bring your attention to an article written i did david graham that suggests, you know, he can say anything in the debate as long as he has the letter r at the end of his name. this is the quote. with voters viewing the other party as a threat to their lives or the republic, they seem willing to overlook nearly anything personal failing in the name of partisanship. that's the result of an era in which nothing means as much much as the letter next to a candidate's name. not just abortion hypocrisy, wife abuse, it's the lies, the blatant fraud. none of this has mattered. i'm sure his debate coach would love to see a tight spiral thrown on to the stage but does it matter? if he can weather the storms, what is to say anything matters anymore? is this the end point of

partisanship? i'll say specifically republican partisanship. >> that is the big question. there are still swing voters. look at the gap how governor p, -- governor kemp is doing versus walker, he is behind kemp. herschel walker has two things propping him up -- three things really. the tribalism you're talking about. people are loyal. yeah, you know, our pitcher is is terrible but i'm a red sox fan. so this is shaping up on the president. it's more about the protest message. finally, if you're somebody who's hugely credentialed outside of politics, voters tend to give you a long leash in the political world. in an election like this for most people, two third say we're

on the wrong track and some places more than two-thirds. candidates like walker is a way to punish politics. the more politicians say how can he ever be in if the u.s. senate, it can actually help them. they become protest vessels. so all those things are prop be up a disastrously inept candidacy and going to be close. >> i just can't believe, mike, how much mitch mcconnell has become a whipping post of the extreme wing of the republican party. he is writing racist things that are party betrayals on truth social and nobody in the senate, these directed at mitch mcconnell, and nobody in the senate is defending mitch mcconnell. he is out there saying don't nominate herschel walker, nobody listens to him. i think that behavior and looking the further way aids his power in the party and actually

at trophies the party. >> well, it's true. mitch has a caucus in the senate full of people who are afraid of the primary voters. the grip there on these things is limited. i feel bad for mitch. i just saw a poll in utah where there is a fascinating senate race. and the least popular politician in utah was mitch mcconnell. all the maga people hate him. all the democrats hate him as kind of a stage villian. so, you know, poor guy. but it's not the old days where the washington leaders of the party could really dictate to the primary elect are the what to do, particularly when you have a messiah like trump running around. we'll see the herschel walker factor in other races too. we have weak candidates that were assisted by trump. they ought to name the dnc building after him.

>> don't think that's going to happen any time soon, mike murphy. but one never knows. long time republican strategist the mind consult in moments like these. thank you for your time, mike. still ahead here tonight, florida republican governor ron desantis met with president bide tone day while surveying the damage caused by hurricane ian. is it a sign that desantis is setting political partisanship aside? don't bet on it. but first, billionaire elon musk is closer than ever to becoming the new owner of twitter. new york magazine editor at large kara swisher joins us to discuss what happens if musk decides to replatform donald trump. we'll be right back. replatformd trump. we'll be right back.

in the middle of the capitol riot, donald trump tweeted, mike pennsylvania didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution. giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not a fraudulent one which they were asked to previously certify. usa demands the truth. thanks to the work of the january 6th committee, we know this is how the crowd at the

capitol responded to his tweet. >> it was clear that it was escalating and escalating quickly. so that when that tweet, mike pence tweet was sent out, i remember us saying that that was the last thing that needed to be tweeted at that moment. the situation was already bad. and so it felt like he was pouring gasoline on the fire by tweeting that. >> it wasn't until two hours after that, after the crowd luckily couldn't find vice president pence to hang him that the crowd went home. and that is because president trump tweeted a video telling them to go home. president trump's twitter account was a bully pulpit in hands of a real bully and had a significant impact in the real world. there were trump's early years on twitter where he spread misinformation that president obama wasn't born in the united

states. by the time trump was elected, that little piece of misinformation had convinced 72% of registered republican voters to doubt president obama's citizenship. or after trump was elected and began his personal campaign against cortez demonizing her on twitter. he wasn't the first to push birthism or ioc, but his voice on social media was really, really loud. this week aoc's office told "the new york times" it can hardly keep up with the astronomical amount of threats she receives every day. her office is a daily routine of updating a document with photos of men who have threatened to her so she knows what they look like, a daily routine. at the end of his term, president trump had 8 million followers and would tweet dozens

of tweets every day. he has been silent on the platform. twitter banned him saying he could incite further violence. yes, trump now has his own social media platform. he only has four million follow tlerz. we have a year since his rage incitement device is out of his hands. but that may be coming to an end. elon musk is moving ahead with his agreement to purchase twitter. and one of the only clues we have as to what elon musk will change when he takes over is that he has suggested he would reverse trump's twitter ban saying, "it was not correct to ban donald trump." musk considers himself a free speech absolutist and whatever that means, the people who have been deplatformed from twitter have been celebrating the possibility of lon musk's

takeover since he first offered to buy at which time they are spring. >> i'm cautiously optimistic about the prospect for twitter now that elon musk has taken over. i don't know mr. musk. but i do invite him to come talk with me and n. washington, d.c. i'd be happy to put together a roundtable of all the most brilliant people who have been unjustly banned from twitter. >> those brilliant people according to marjorie taylor green include the likes of alex jones and far right troll milo yanopolis, all of them and donald trump could be back on twitter before the mid terms. what could go wrong? joining us now is care why swisher, editor of large of new york magazine, host of the pivot podcast. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you, alex. >> so it seems from the reporting that musk's purchase of twitter could be imminent. how do you read the tea leaves on this?

. >> it's going to happen unless the financing falls through. there are a couple areas that musk and the lawyers don't agree on this. they want to make sure they don't adjourn this trial before a deal is done. so there is some small things. but it's a lot of money, $44 billion. and so he's got to make sure he has the commitments that he needs. >> do we have a sense of how he would practically go about changing the company and moderating what it is now? does he get rid of the truth and safety teams? does he just do a wholesale clearing of house? is that what you would expect from him? >> no. i don't think that. i don't think he's going to do a wholesale anything. i think he is letting donald trump back on. he didn't suggest it. he said it. he said it to me before. and so i think he would -- he thought it was a mistake and going to bring him back on. of course, he'll be under stricter if he incites violence that, will knock him off again. he's intent on allowing as many people possible on that

platform. >> can i ask what you just said if, he does the violent incitement that will knock him off again. what is the standard there? there is so much that donald trump tweets that is violent. even tweets at mitch mcconnell. like who is going to determine that threshold? do you have a hence of how high elon musk's tolerance is for something like that? have you looked at his twitter feed? quite high. he probably thinks those are jokes. it will be up to him. he'll control the company. i think it's 78% or some number. he's going to control the company. so whatever he thinks will be what it is which is a tendency to sort of say whatever you feel like in the moment. >> i guess i would ask you when, you know, he has forecasted this new kind of twitter that is going to be much friendlier to right-wing idealism. what is the reaction to that incite. to some degree. he has a belief that donald trump should have a voice and

should be on back on twitter. is there a sensesilicon valley that they need to be more friendly to right-wing voices? is this in search of a business model or a thinking inside silicon valley that right-wing voices have become too marginalized and need to be more mainstreamed? >> i don't think he thinks of it that way. silicon valley is different. there is more libertarian light is what i like to call them. almost no values whatsoever. they'll take whatever it takes to do what they want to do. that is their philosophy. but i think in elon musk's case, you never know what he would do. he doesn't like to pin himself down. he's been expressing more, you know, i don't like the democrats or he's talked about being a centrist where most of the country s he can go anywhere. i know they celebrate him. he could turn on them at any point if he feels like it at any one moment. >> what about twitter employees?

i wonder, there's been talk with some of them would resign en masse if trump gets deplatformed, depending on what musk does. is that a problem for him? or are there enough people in silicon valley that will be happy to work for a new revamped musk twitter? >> well, it's -- he'll find people. don't worry. he is elon musk. he runs two other companies or three or however many he has that are very popular to work at. both tesla and spacex. very important companies, actually. so i think he'll probably tract a lot of people. i think it's just, you just don't know what he's going to do. that's the problem with elon musk. i'm always surprised by the things he says. some is conservative. some is liberal. some is just crazy. some silly. you just don't know. a the hoff people at twitter will leave. and that's the way it's going to be if you don't like elon musk, you really shouldn't work at twitter. >> yeah.

what about facebook? facebook also took trump off the platform. but that was not a permanent ban. and that sort of -- it is up for reconsideration in january of 2023. which means trump could be back on twitter in time for a potential presidential bid. can you read the signs on that potential decision in any way at this junk tour? >> it's not had a made by zuckerberg. you know, i don't know. i think they'll consider it. they'll bring him back would be my guess. youtube is also sort of put him in -- i'm not clear what it is. they put him just nonpermanent banning. so we'll see what they do. i think if elon musk wasn't getting twitter, current management wouldn't bring him back on. why bother? they have taken a hit. he doesn't mind taking a hit. and so facebook's case, i'm not

clear what they're going to do. they're going to watch him carefully, for sure. putting back on seems probably what's going to happen. >> that, i mean, so trump could be operating full throttle on all of the social media platforms. what of truth social? does truth social, does that hurt trump's bottom line? i mean where does that -- does that just sort of go softly into the night? what do you think the future holds for that? >> that's that little violin of a social media site. it doesn't hurt the bottom line. it's not making money. it's a disaster. it's a financial and operational disaster run by same technologyist devin nunist. it's not going to matter at all in any way. that thing is going away in some fashion, the spac is in trouble. there are vendors mad. the typical trump business. and so i think he'll be happy to be back on twitter. he'll band on it in a new york minute and back on twitter scream ago way as he likes to

do. the thing, is let me be clear. it may not work. people may be tired of this. right? just like the apprentice was popular. i watched that every season and then got tiresome. more trump is not necessarily good for the republican party. it sort of, you get tired of him and weary. i think a lot more people might -- that might happen if he gets more of a voice. >> i would dare say more trump is not good for the republican party. but what do i know? kara swisher, editor at large of new york magazine and host of the pivot podcast. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. up next, we have breaking news. the daily beast roert who broke the story about herschel walker allegedly paying for a woman to have an abortion is out with a new interview with that woman tonight. she says she is also one of the mothers of herschel walker's children. we'll have details from that breaking story coming up next. t breaking story coming up next.

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just a few moments ago we were talking about the bombshell story that rocked the georgia senate race. an allegation that the very anti-abortion republican nominee herschel walker paid for an exgirlfriend's abortion a dozen years ago. there is now new reporting on that story just in the last few minutes from the same reporter who broke that original story. we should note that msnbc has not yet confirmed this

reporting. after a woman revealed that republican candidate herschel walker urged her to have an abortion, he denied the story and claimed at the no idea who this woman could be. but there say good reason the woman finds that defense highly doubtful. she's the mother of one of his children. the daily beast says when this woman first told the outlet her story they agreed not to reveal details about her identity over her concerns for her safety and privacy. but after walker denied the story, said he didn't know who is making it and essentially accused democrats of making it up, the woman decided to reveal more. the woman told the daily beast that her chief concern was revealing her name is because she is the mother of one of walker's own children. when she wanted to protect her family's privacy as best she could and also coming forward with the truth. walker has publicly acknowledged the child as his own and the woman proved she is the child's mother and provided credible evidence of a long term relationship with herschel

walker. he didn't express any regret. he said relax and recover. the woman recalled. talking about the message on the get well card he sent her along with the abortion payment. he seemed pro-choice to me. he was pro-choice, obviously. he criticized walker for appearing to believe that an abortion is an okay thing to do when it's not the right time for you but a terrible thing for anyone else to do when you're running for senate. the daily beast says the walker campaign declined to comment for this story. i bet. it doesn't seem like this story is going anywhere any time soon. we'll be right back. anywhere a. we'll be right back.

it has been almost a week since the justice department asked the 11th circuit court of appeals to speed up consideration of its request to end the special master's review of documents taken from his mar-a-lago beach club. today the appeals court disagreed expedite the deal. but on a faster track than trump's team had proposed. yet while the small part of the legal saga has been expedited, if you look at the bigger picture, you see that just about everything tied to the mar-a-lago investigation is operating on a delayed time line. which is by design. as "politico" points out, trump's team managed to take over the legal fight to four arenas, the new york courtrooms of special master judge deary

who asked to review evidence taken. and judge cannon, the 11th court of appeals in atlanta where trump asked for a delay of the justice department's request to speed things along and yesterday the supreme court in washington, d.c., where trump is asking for an intervention to get classified documents back before the special master and potentially throw up roadblocks to the doj's criminal investigation. the multiple moving parts they note has complicated the status of trump's legal play which, of course, is the point here, complicate a matter but at its core is not that complicated. he took thousands of white house documents and hundreds of classified ones to his florida home. and for months he refused to return them and lied about their existence in response to a federal subpoena that triggered an fbi search of mar-a-lago. joining us now is former fbi general council and current pro fetor at nyu law.

thank you for being here. >> nice to be here. >> okay. so four different courtrooms. who has the stronger hand at this moment? it's really hard to tell. on its face, you think oh, the doj. trump is fighting all the legal battles. but those battles have the effect of slowing down and complicating the doj's urgent work. >> well, i think the first thing to remember is when you are a potential defendant, your job is to do what the trump legal team is doing. that is what you do. that is, you know, you try everything you can. and the legal system is supposed to hear the claims and, you know, you will get them. the root of the problem here is judge cannon. >> yeah. >> so yes, she appointed the special master. you know that at this point that donald trump is ruined the day for that. the special master is not playing ball. >> it's a nightmare. he is actually a real judge. that's you suddenly see judge cannon overruling the special

master. that never happens. especially when the special master is another federal judge. but she is really the root of the problem. because she's done things that are just so, you know, just really improper or, you know, just not following the facts or the law. that's why you have the 11th circuit involved. you saw two trump appointees as we were discussing on a panel of three ruling against judge cannon. it's important to remember with respect to clarence thomas that people understand, if that was not really a selection by trump. he is the every circuit, every federal appeals court has a justice in the supreme court who oversees any emergency relief. and so he just happens to be the justice for this particular circuit. >> for the 11th circuit. >> exactly. >> he has limited authority. he can't just do something unilaterally that couldn't be reviewed by the entire court. it is unlikely that he, if he

wanted to grant something that he wouldn't send it to the whole court to decide. >> so you're optimistic? there's a lot of speculation and concern that because clarence thomas is the justice that's overseeing that at the 11th circuit as he sits on the supreme court, that could somehow factor into this. you're optimistic that entire court is going to review it and then what? they're not going to find in trump's favor? >> i'm optimistic that either clarence thomas is to deny it because it's so laughable and he just doesn't need to accept any of this or, two, he could just sit on this. there is nothing that requires him to rule quickly. he could wait to see what the 11th circuit does. and then the whole thing could be muted. >> do you really expect clarence thomas to actually sit? you think it's possible he could

be that unfriendly to this case as it concerns trump's interested? >> i would say, first, i think it's important that he would send something to the full court and not decide something, you know, unilaterally. then if you're chief justice roberts, there is a lot of institutional reasons to not get involved in something like this. they have taken so many hits sort of publicly in terms of whether they are political body. and this is a case where there is such little merit to what is being argued. and there are so many ways to not rule on this. and i mean, they just understand, the supreme court rarely takes anything. >> right. >> so this is not one where you read the brief and say there is an injustice done here. >> well, yes. i will say they're hearing cases right now that i think a lot of people are concerned about. they wish they wouldn't take up. >> that's right. >> let me just did in terms of eileen cannon, all roads keep going back to her. if there are debates -- if judge

dearie gets the documents under his review, there could be a fight between trump's team and doj over what is privilege. ultimately judge cannon has to be the one to resolve that dispute. how much of an end run can the courts do around judge cannon who thus far has proven to be an intractable supporter of donald trump? to the degree she is i think not exercising the best jurisprudence? >> just understand if donald trump were to prevail in the supreme court, all it would mean is that judge deari he e gets to see the classified documents and there is no way in god's green earth that he is going to say oh, these documents that are classified, i now want to share them with the trump team. he's not going to want to do that. it will be this tension. judge cannon will want to give it to them. this is where the off brand is. the 11th circuit appeal which now expedited on a faster track than, you know, than donald trump wanted, they could end

all. this one of the argument that's the government is making is that there was no jurisdiction for cannon to sort of, you know, poke her nose into. this judge dearie said the same thing. can you please explain to me why is this not before the magistrate? he understands how the normal processes work. >> one person does not. andrew wiseman, former general counsel, thank you for your wisdom. >> today, president biden met face-to-face with one of the biggest republican critics. florida governor ron desantis. they came together to help relief efforts in florida after hurricane ian. but if you think the florida governor is putting politics aside, please, think again. aside, please, think again

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republican governor ron desantis shaking hands with president biden and thanking him for his response to hurricane

ian in florida. that moment today led to a flurry of breathless headlines about how ron desantis is changing his tone and putting politics aside amid the natural disaster playing out in his state. just take a second to remember who ron desantis is and how he came to be the governor of florida in the very first place. ron desantis began his political career when he was elected to congress in 2012. one of his very first acts in office was to vote against hurricane relief funds for the victims of hurricane sandy. it was one of two florida representatives to vote no at the time. he's gone out of his way to criticize every crisis and raking in every fund that came his way. he was one of the ard ent critics of the covid relief policies. that didn't stop him from taking $10 million from the federal

coronavirus state and fiscal recovery funds, money that he used for plenty of unrelated issues including shipping migrants across the country. and now with federal relief money on the line and his own political fortunes at stake, governor desantis is making nice with president biden for the news cameras. here governor desantis yesterday giving an interview about the hurricane to one of the people that stormed the capitol and criticizing that hurricane ian was heading for tampa before striking further down florida's coast. >> look, i think part of it quite frankly, you know, you have national regime media that they wanted to see tampa. they thought that would be worse for florida. that's how these people think. they don't care about the people of this state. they don't care about the people of this community. they want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda.

>> the national regime media was hoping more people would die in a hurricane. expect to see more of that ron desantis as he continues to try and bolster his national image with republican primary voters. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. "way too early" is coming up next. >> today we have one job. and only one job. and that's to make sure the people of florida get everything that they need to fully recover. we're one of the few nations in the world that on a basis of crisis we face we're the only nation that comes out of it better than we went into it. and that's what we're going to do this time around. come out of it better. >> president biden and floor governor ron desantis put politics aside for one day as the president tours more hurricane damage and promises full support for the victims. meanwhile, there is a new claim from the woman