right now on "andrea mitchell reports," all eyes on controversial republican senate candidate herschel walker, on the trail in georgia this hour. will he answer questions about the growing scandal rocking his campaign just a month before the midterms? saudi arabia and russia rock president biden's hopes to keep gas prices down between now and the election as they decide to slash production to keep oil prices up. the president denying his fist bump saudi with the crown prince was about keeping oil flowing. the u.s., south korea and japan conduct more joint exercises. north korea fires off more ballistic missiles. will anything stop kim jong-un from going nuclear?

good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the georgia senate campaign that could help decide who takes the senate has been overtaken by a growing scandal for republican candidate herschel walker. the latest twist, more new reporting from "the daily beast" the unidentified woman accusing walker of pressuring her to have an abortion and paying for it is also the mother of one of his children. nbc news has not verified those allegations. walker again denying it on conservative talk radio today and telling nbc news there's no truth to this or any other "daily beast" report. the candidate is back on the trail. that's where we find yamiche alcindor in georgia. also joining us, vaughan hillyard and victoria de soto and former florida congressman

david jolly. walker will hold this event where you are, yamiche. he will be there later this hour. are we expecting him to address any of the new allegations? >> good afternoon. i'm in a deeply red part of the state. it's here that senate candidate herschel walker is going to hold a campaign event. that's what we are being told. it's been pushed back today. we are expecting him to come. we are expecting him to talk about the allegations that he paid for a woman carrying his child to have an abortion. he said it's a lie. listen to what he said this morning.

>> there you have it, herschel walker continuing to defend himself. he said he is a sinner who has been redeemed. we expect him to say it's an attack by democrats who don't want him to be the next u.s. senator from georgia. this is a tight senate race. georgia is a critical part of the republican plan to try to take back control of the senate. also, we are hearing from some state republicans in this state that maybe things are not going as planned for herschel walker. the lieutenant governor out in the last 24 hours saying there are some republicans who are feeling very rattled by this continuous flow, this drip, drip, drip of new information about this abortion allegation. national republicans are continuing to stick with herschel walker. the woman who is claiming -- making these claims, she said it's ridiculous for him to deny it. that's what he is doing. i'm looking forward to questioning herschel walker when he gets here.

hopefully, i can tell you about it on the back end. >> good luck with that. thank you very much. hope to see you later. vaughan, you are out in arizona where there's a debate tonight. you talked to ted cruz about her shall -- herschel walker. >> reporter: rick scott named nevada and georgia as the best opportunities to change the power in the u.s. senate here. that is where you see other states, including here in arizona, where blake masters, national republicans have largely moved their fund-raising away to places like nevada and georgia to defend and help out and boost the candidacy of herschel walker. mark kelly's operation have spent five times what allies of blake masters have spent over the last two months, to give you an idea of just how much blake masters, who is very much in this race, has been outspent.

ted cruz, from texas, was here campaigning for blake masters. i was putting the question to him whether he would urge republicans to shift their resources away from georgia to places like arizona. take a listen to his response. >> this is an effort from democrats to hold on to power. >> reporter: do you stand by herschel walker? >> i believe herschel walker is going to be the next senate. look at inflation, illegal immigration, the people of georgia are unhappy with the path we're on. that's why they're going to elect a republican. it's not going to stop them -- hell, yes, i want every republican running for senate in this country to win. >> reporter: you heard ted cruz make it clear, the ambition is to get republicans, the majority in the u.s. senate. that includes sticking by the candidacy of herschel walker. >> that was classic ted cruz. david jolly, our team points out

that this is all about winning and retaking the majority. there's nothing they can do about herschel walker now. they can't change candidates. they will stick with the guy who brought them to the dance. >> they are. high risk decision by herschel walker to take the strategy of just denying. there's still five weeks to go where more information could come out. i think it's an indication republicans have said, we're going to ignore this. we're going to focus all of our attacks on warnock and joe biden. herschel walker was never a candidate running on his credentials to be a u.s. senator. he was a vessel with name recognition and fund-raising prowess that they could use to regain that seat. here is the important thing. we are watching to see, are republicans going to stick with him? they will. a move of only two to three points in georgia sends warnock back to the senate for the next six years. that's the critical thing. does the trust deficit now with

herschel walker or the substance of the issue cause 2% to 3% of republicans to switch their vote or to just stay home? if so, herschel walker has lost this race. >> victoria, let's talk also while -- we are talking about herschel walker, dealing with his problems. republicans have been focusing on inflation and crime and other issues and not abortion, of course, which is also the democrats' issue. now the gas pump. inflation. prices up 10 cents in the last week alone on the expectation that opec plus will do what they did overnight, which is the saudis and russia announcing big production cuts to keep their prices up. there's clear disappointment at the white house. this is going to hurt democrats. >> this is going to be incredibly problematic for the white house, for democrats going into the midterm. it can't get more direct. we all have to put gas in our cars. our produce, our goods are all affected by this.

this is a very, very hard hit. i think it can hit in two days. one, in terms of vote choice for those swing voters. those voters who haven't made up their mind yet. this may say, i like the democrats, but i just trust the republicans a little bit more on the economy, on inflation, which is what some of the polling -- recent polling has shown. the other thing that i worry it can do is it can decrease turnout. the midterms are notorious for being lower turnout elections, especially with key demographic groups in the democratic party. apathy, frustration from these higher gas prices could make some democrats who otherwise would have turned out stay home. i think this is problematic. aside from it affects the most vulnerable yet again after coming off the pandemic and the heavy hit that took. >> vaughan, liz cheney was in

arizona last night at the mccain institute. speaking about the threats that she believes the democracy is facing. let me play that. >> if you care about democracy and you care about the survival of our republic, then you need to understand we all have to understand that we cannot give people power who have told us that they will not honor elections. elections are the foundation of our republic. peaceful transfers of power are the foundation of our republic. we must have elected officials in both parties who understand and honor that duty and that responsibility. >> how does that message play in the debate that you are expecting tonight between the senate candidates? >> reporter: right. blake masters has been endorsed by donald trump. he is part of that slate of

candidates appearing with the president. you can expect mark kelly incumbent to make a case out of this. this is the single debate between these two candidates. mark kelly has been up by several points over the course of the last several months. arizona is far from being a conservative red state. he won by just 2.5 percentage points in 2020. liz cheney, this is a huge week in arizona, there's a reason liz cheney was on that stage minutes after ted cruz was here. just days before donald trump and mike pence are here in the state. early voting begins in the state of arizona just next week. the mail-in ballots are going into mailboxes next week. that's why the time is so crucial now here for not only the senate candidates but also the statewide candidates to get their messages out and to get those folks that are speaking out on their behalf out here. liz cheney, she was called out the likes of youngkin and cruz

for campaigning for lake here. those folks she refers to as election deniers, knowing they are advocating for individuals who are openly working in her own words against the constitution. those are the stakes. over the next week, we can expect the focus to continue to be really high here in the state of arizona. >> david, that's the division in the republican party. liz cheney, ted cruz. let me give you another example. newt gingrich speaking the other day about herschel walker. let's watch. >> i think he is the most important senate candidate in the country, because he will do more to change the senate just by the sheer presence, by his confidence, his deep commitment to christ, the degree to which he -- he has been through a long, tough period. he had a lot of concussions coming out of football. he suffered ptsd.

>> the former history professor and ideological core of the gingrich revolution, the contract with america. >> yeah. andr andrea, herschel was recruited because of his name and fund-raising prowess and mitch mcconnell could manipulate him to be one vote for mitch when he gets to the senate, not because of any credentials he brings substantively. that's the reality of it. it's an unfortunate fall for newt gingrich. you will see evidence of that. the next five weeks will not be about his credentials. it will be a negative attack on warnock, on crime, immigration and inflation. republicans will attack. that's how they will try to get out of this. >> thanks to yamiche who is chasing herschel walker and vaughan, that's a heck of a cactus you found in arizona. amazing. victoria, thank you so much.

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breaking news in thailand. a former police officer killing dozens of children in a mass attack at a day care center, with the youngest victim just 2 years old. witnesses at the scene say the attacker kicked through a window and shot at a door before opening fire in a room full of sleeping children. the 34-year-old suspect later returned home to kill his wife and child before turning gun on himself. the former officer was in court

earlier in the day facing drug charges that they say contributed to his removal from the police force. just a horrible story there. gas prices on the rise again. the national average is up by nearly ten cents on the anticipation of continued crude oil increases, after opec overnight announcing massive cuts to oil production on wednesday, a move sought by saudi arabia and russia. a setback for president biden who was criticized for the fist pump visit with the saudi crown prince in july when he was promised some short-turmoil price relief. that has evaporated. >> the trip was not essentially for oil. the trip was about the middle east and israel and rationalization of position. it is a disappointment. it says that there are problems. >> higher gas prices coming a month in advance of the midterms likely will hurt democrats as republicans zero in on

inflation. joining us now is ben rhodes, former deputy national security advisor under president obama and former u.s. ambassador to nato evo dalder, president of the chicago council on global affairs president. ben, let's talk about this move by opec. it could not have come at a worse time. it benefits russia with its war in ukraine. it's more profits from oil. iran, obviously, the saudis. white house disappointed. they took that high risk summit on the hopes and the promise many reported at the time they would get some oil relief and there was some interim price relief, but they have raised the prices. >> yeah. andrea, in every way possible this is the worst timing. you have the situation where you have not just the issue of high gas prices here but you have europe getting ready for a very difficult winter when it comes to energy prices. you have the west trying to

choke off the oil revenues that are the last remaining life blood of the russian military industrial complex and war machine. you have a u.s. president go out on a limb here with his visit to saudi arabia, but was based on the idea we wanted to address what we saw in the united states as potentially overlapping interests with the saudis. we wanted to make sure they were on the same team when it came to the circumstances in russia. this is a giant, glaring message from the saudis, we don't share your interests. or interests are right now in boosting these prices so that we get more revenue. we don't care if that undercuts a lot of your not just domestic politics but a lot of your foreign policy goals, particularly as it relates to russia and the circumstances in europe. i don't know how many times we need to get a message from the saudis that we don't necessarily share interests here. that's the message that came loud and clear from that opec meeting. they had been warned. they have had all manner of

communication from the united states and other governments that this is the worst possible time to do this. yet, they chose to take the side of russia in this moment. it's going to have serious consequences not just for consumers but for some of our foreign policies around the world. i'm sure the administration is looking at, how do you recalibrate the saudi relationship and mitigate the effects of this on the global energy market and prices? >> you have democrats saying, we should pull troops out of saudi arabia, our missile defenses, changing our posture there. i'm sure some republicans will weigh in on that. evo, this is a time when according to "the wall street journal," the administration is considering lifting some sanctions on the government in venezuela and letting chevron pump oil again to try to offset this. it puts them in a bind as well as helping iran and putin. >> it really does put the administration in a bind.

it's been said with friends like these, the saudis, who needs enemies? it's really extraordinary to see this happening. remember, four days after russia annexed part of ukraine to have the deputy prime minister join the saudis in chairing a meeting designed to give russia more leeway, more capability to prosecute a war that is not only widely condemned around the world but is extraordinary from a global stability standpoint, do the saudis expect the united states now to come to its aid if it were to be attacked in the region? those are the questions that i think are legitimately on table and need to be answered with some due care. it's not just on capitol hill. i think increasingly, folks around the region are asking, on whose side are the saudis? why are we continuing to think

that having the kind 6 secure oy relationship we had with them is for our benefit? it's to the benefit of the saudis. we don't have to necessarily accept that. at the same time, we find the west is still united. the european union has agreed on an oil price cap which will hopefully have the real impact on the ability of the russians to continue to sell oil at a price that makes them richer than they deserve. we just need to persevere. the reality is, we're in for a long winter in europe or a long winter in ukraine. we need to make sure that we stand together and remember who our real friends are. they are in europe, asia. they are not in the gulf. >> then we have north korea. talk about things you don't want to happen heading into the midterms. ben, talk about north korea. kim jong-un not only not

deterred by the carrier group going in and the joint exercises, but using that as the excuse at the security council yesterday joined by russia and china to say the u.s. provoked the missile launches. we haven't seen this since 2017. now fears of a nuclear launch that could be coming after china's party congress. >> i mean, i think for north korea, they have an interest in testing their missile technology. i think part of what's happening here is that the relationship between the united states and the west, japan, south korea, with russia and china has obviously been through a period of enormous tension with the war in ukraine, rising tensions in the taiwan strait. russia and china might have in the past tried to play some moderating influence on north korean behavior, it may be they have interest in stirring up tensions right now. at a minimum, they are removing any potential guardrails in

their messaging to north korea. we can see these tensions in the korean peninsula as an extension of the broader geopolitical tensions in the world between the united states and russia and china. we are seeing this along the periphery in iran, too, where you have an inspiring protest movement and a brutal crackdown taking place. when you have a war like you have in ukraine and you have tensions between the two largest economies in the world, the united states and china, sometimes you see other flashpoints boil over at a more alarming rate than in the past. i think this is part of the landscape we will deal with for the foreseeable future. >> evo, how worried should we be about what north korea is doing with its advances, all the ballistic missile tests as well as the prospect of a nuclear test? >> we're always worried. the reality is, they have capabilities and they are testing capability in the last

few days, flying missiles over japan, which means they can reach japan. we know they can reach further, possibly even u.s. -- the continental united states. at the same time, we have to be aware that this is in some ways just a demonstration by kim jong-un to wave the flag and say, we are here, don't ignore us, pay attention to us and trying, as i think ben rightly says, play the game of setting the united states off against russia and china on the other hand. it is worrisome. they have nuclear weapons. they can reach significant territory in the united states and other parts of the world. the reality is also that if they were to think of even doing that seriously, they have to be aware of the consequences would be equally severe if not more so. the united states remains the biggest power militarily in asia.

any threat or any direct action against any of our allies would lead to direct and serious consequences. >> evo, ben, thanks to both of you. the access denied. a death list kept out of the oath keepers trial in washington. why the judge ruled that evidence out coming up next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. it's the subway s! 12 irresistible subs... like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef. this sub isn't slowing down any time soon. i'll give it a run for its money. my money's on the sub. it's subway's biggest refresh yet. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless and its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market with powerful, easy-to-use tools power e*trade makes complex trading easier react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting

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we need to do this at a local level, let's storm the capitol in ohio. how convincing are the emails and messages? what do you make of this? >> zimmerman is a 27-year army veteran who lives in north carolina and was once a member of the oath keepers. he testified that he believes stewart rhodes may have a contact with the secret service. he heard one side of a conversation between rhodes and someone rhodes claimed was a secret service agent. this was in september 2020, before a trump rally in north carolina. as you mentioned, this is just developing. we don't know whether the fbi tracked down who rhodes may have been talking to. that's to be continued. zimmerman followed two days of testimony by the lead witness, the fbi agent. he was at the capitol guarding senators on january 6th. he became one of the supervising agents in the oath keepers

investigation. prosecutors used him to introduce recordings and text messaging showing how the oath keepers planned to use violence to stop the lawful transfer of power. prosecutors had a setback when the judge refused to allow them to introduce a so-called death list prepared by one of the defendants. prosecutors said his lawyers opened door by saying that he was mainly focused on a perceived threat from antifa. they said it showed that that was false, because this list included election workers from 2020. the judge ruled the list was not linked to the alleged conspiracy. >> joyce, that death list was not permitted as evidence. can't be testified to. the sticky note you are seeing and containing the names of georgia election workers. take a listen to what miss moss

said at the january 6 committee hearing. >> don't want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. i don't go to the grocery store at all. i haven't been anywhere at all. i gained about 60 pounds. i don't do nothing anymore. >> that testimony referred, joyce, as i recall, to her grandmother's house, people trying to get into her grandmother's house and the way she was completely -- her life was changed as a result of the way she was harassed after being an election volunteer. >> that testimony before the january 6th committee was incredibly moving. i hope it's something that no one has lost sight of. andrea, this decision in court today was a smart one by the

judge. prosecutors want to get in every piece of good evidence that they have. i know andrew will agree with this. all good evidence is prejudicial. that's the point of having evidence as a prosecutor. you want to show the defendants engaged in misconduct. what the judge did here was he prevented the government from putting into evidence material that is unduly prejudicial, something that could inflame the jury's emotions, leading them to make a decision based on emotion, not on the evidence. the reason it's a smart call by the judge is that it will help the government if it obtains convictions during this trial get them affirmed on appeal. this will be a ruling the appellate court will look to to say the judge engaged and used wise discretion in admitting evidence to ensure the defendants had a fair trial. >> andrew, let's talk -- take a step back. the january 6th committee just officially announced what we had

anticipated, which is that their next hearing, which could be the final, is going to be next thursday at 1:00 on the 13th of october. we will, of course, be on from noon on through probably until 4:00. we will be all over that as well. we haven't seen these hearings for a while. this is going on as there's so much else, the mar-a-lago raids and the fulton county investigation, the new york state attorney general against donald trump and his adult children. andrew, what are we to make of all this swirling around? how important is getting a conviction against stewart rhodes and the oath keepers here in terms of really getting to accountability for january 6th? >> well, i think you have to

separate the issue of all of the many, many legal things going on with respect to donald trump. it's important to know there's a criminal case that's coming up in just a couple weeks of the trump organization in manhattan. leaving that to one side, this is the most serious, the most expansive and i think the most important case that's come out of the defendant relating to the actual attack on january 6. i think this is a must win case for the department. i have to say, although we have only seen a couple days of evidence, we have really not heard a defense that works. the main defense that's been put forth is that these people were there only for defensive purposes. they were waiting for donald trump to give them authorization. but we have seen in writing emails, including stewart

rhodes, on november 7, the day after the election is called saying that they need to push donald trump to take action and if he doesn't, they're going to take action anyway. there's just so much evidence here. it's too soon to tell, but this seems like a case that's extraordinarily well put together by the defendant of justice. >> how do you think the hearings next week play into any of this in terms of the public attitude? they will do an interim report. they have to produce a final report. with the democrats behind republicans in most polling in the midterms, they go out of business if the republicans take over the house. >> yeah. i think one thing to keep an eye

on is what happens to all that evidence. there's a bit of a debate about what should happen to all of the transcripts and physical evidence that's been collected by the january 6 committee. most prosecutors would not want that to all be made public while there's an investigation going on, because it gives a road map for people who are trying to obstruct justice. if the republicans take over the house, they will be able to make this all public and thus targets of the investigation will be rejoicing at that. there's this problem of what exactly will happen with all that evidence. with respect to the hearing, it's a little too soon to tell. i agree, there's so much subjects we want to know more about. that's one of those we have to wait and see exactly which of the many subjects they're going to focus on in the hearing and provide additional proof. >> it could be the first window

into what ginni thomas fully said to them. that's all come up since their last work they were doing. chuck todd did ask the senate judiciary chairman dick durbin about whether they in the senate, if they keep the senate, could take over this evidence. he pointed out that there are senate rules restricting subpoenas that have to be approved by both parties. they have a split down the middle on the senate judiciary committee. they would have to get republican senate buy-in to subpoena witnesses to continue pursuing the evidence. that would be certainly a problem. ken, joyce, andrew, thanks to all of you. help is on the way. the u.s. aid administrator in ukraine with help to offset the

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flowing into the country but not about the $9.89 billion that they are putting on the ground, not just to keep the government in support but really to try to keep people's power and heat on. i had a chance to talk to her. keep an eye or ear out for the sound of an explosion that went off in the middle of the interview. take a listen. >> u.s. support for this cause is so worth it. we have provided now more than $25 billion in a combination of military security assistance that everybody is familiar with, direct budget support, $8.5 billion. that's what's happening the government pay the salaries of people who work in government ministries who keep the heat on in the winter. it's helping pay the salaries of health workers. what's at stake here is the question of whether a large power can invade a neighbor and

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as florida and other states in hurricane ian's path grapple with devastating losses, scientists are looking at the impact of climate change on this year's hurricane season. something president biden acknowledged in florida yesterday. >> there's a lot going on. and i think the one thing this has finally ended is the discussion about whether or not there's climate change and we should do something about it. this will take a lot of time, not weeks or months. it's going to take years for everything to get squared away in the state of florida. >> so, did climate change make ian stronger and more destructive? bill karins joins me now. that is the big question. was ian stronger? >> i don't think there's a doubt that climate change made it stronger, but the question was by how much? 1%?

5%? i have no doubt whatsoever, this was the peak month of hurricane season. no doubt that ian would have been a destructive hurricane no matter what. it showed two signs of things we're watching for future generations for climate change and hurricanes. one is rapid intensification. are these storms getting stronger more quickly. wednesday morning, it went from a 3 to a strong 4, almost a 5. it was 87 degrees. >> so is climate change causing more hurricanes or more intense hurricanes? >> this graphic gives us a good gauge of our understanding. we know extreme heat and extreme cold, here's the arrow where tropical cyclones are, we have a

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