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that's one of the best ways to connect with me. sign up for my writing. again, our thanks to bun b. and his kind words, and the big question, what is the american-made music that you think connects or that we might need now today as our country goes through so many different things. we started with "georgia on my mind." you tell me the other ones. maybe we'll update some of them on the show. that does it for us. "the readout with joy reid" starts now. readout with joy re starts now tonight on "the reidout" -- >> what's your reaction to people so close to you, your son, a mother -- someone says that she's the mother of your kid saying that you're lying, what's the reaction to people so close to you saying, don't trust you? >> just like what i just said, the democrats are desperate for this seat this quarter. >> but your family -- >> i love my family. i always love my family. i'm going to win this race. i know i'm going to win this race and stuff. >> herschel walker's spin gets
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more ludicrous by the day and exposes republicans' contempt for women. because apparently it's okay for walker to pay for an abortion, but they want harsh penalties for women who need the procedure. also tonight, less than five weeks to the midterms and republicans are pulling out all the old fear and loathing playbook, trying to scare voters about crime. also, democrats are fighting back. also fighting back is tonight's reidout democracy defender, who's working with michelle obama and a lot of other amazing people to increase voter participation. meanwhile, republicans are doing just the opposite, suppressing the vote and nominating a staggering number of candidates, who might well cancel your right to vote altogether. we begin with a crucial component of the abortion debate that often goes unscathed, often unnoticed. the men. since the birth of baby jesus, conception without sexual intercourse hasn't really been a
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thing. meaning it takes two to conceive. but in anti-abortion states, when it comes to an unwanted pregnancy or a wanted but unviable pregnancy, it's only the women who face the consequences, ranging from criminal charges to major health complications or even death. the abortion debate has focused solely on women and girls, because they are the ones getting pregnant, by choice or sometimes by force. which leaves one person in that act out of the conversation. red states seeks to criminalize women who seek abortions or their doctors or those who help a woman or little girl seek care, the out of state clinic, or the uber or lyft driver who just drives a woman or a teenage girl out of state. they could be legally liable. this radical mission to ban abortion, which lindsey graham has promised will become national law if republicans take over the senate and the house, is not about life. as jennifer ruben wrote today, republicans' so-called beliefs are a spoke screen to grab and
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hold power. and it's not about christianity, either. though it is about religion. here's the republican's religious leader explaining who should be punished for abortions. >> do you believe in punishment for abortions? >> the answer is, there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah, there has to be some form. >> what we're seeing on the right is nothing less than sheer contempt for women. taking us back to when women and girls existed solely as property, their wombs as state incubators. this is some of the bills introduced by state legislators this year. punishing women who receive abortions -- punishing women who receive abortions with prison time or punishing abortion with the death penalty or allowing a rapist's family members to sue those who helped or provide his
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victim with an abortion. do you hear anything here about consequences for men? despite men not being the pregnant person in the equation, the pregnancies at issue are unwanted for them, too. yet they are completely off the hook when the right talks about criminalizing the procedure. and particularly conservative men get a huge past, an instant christian redemption for consenting to the deed. herschel walker, the mumably republican candidate for republican state senate in georgia is now employing literally silly putty logic around his abortion stance. he says he wants to completely ban abortions, likening it to murder. but when the mother of one of his out of wedlock children told the daily beast that walker once urged her to get an abortion and also paid for it, well, in that case, what's the big deal? >> i know about any woman having an abortion and if that had happened, i would have said it, you know, because there's nothing to be ashamed of there. >> walker is denying the
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abortion allegation and also denying the latest charge that he has a child with this woman, but what you just heard was his "if i did it" moment. it's okay for him, but not for the millions of women and girls who have faced this exact scenario. it's nothing to be ashamed of for the man. as a man of faith, he's entitled to redemption without even having to admit to the sin or apologize. but for women, the only possible redemption, even if you've been brutally raped or trapped in a marriage that's violent, like j.d. vance wants you to stay in, or as herschel walker apparently subjected his former wife to, or if you're pregnant as a result of incest, or if like herschel, it just wasn't the right time for you to be a parent, the only time you as a woman can get redemption is to go through nine months of pregnancy, all the medical risks in red states with barely there health care and take full financial and care responsibility for the child. your problem, not theirs, not the state. perhaps the crime isn't so much the abortion, but not being a
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man. joining me now from georgia is yamiche alcindor, washington correspondent for nbc news. also joining me, juanita toliver, cohost of crooked media's "what a day" podcast. and charlie sykes, editor at large atbulwark. yamiche, you got a chance to holler questions at herschel walker. it is really sort of stunning to say, i didn't do it, but if i did it, it wouldn't be a problem, because it's me. i didn't do it. it's sort of like, when you're a star, they let you do it kind of defense. when you talk to voters who hear him mumbling these defenses, do any of them say to you when they're justifying voting for him anyway, he's a murderer in my view, because i'm opposed to abortion, but i'm okay with him murdering, because i like his politics? >> joy, an important and critical question, but, no, i don't hear that from voters. what i do hear here in watley,
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georgia, which is a deeply red part of the state, herschel walker held an event here. and i got a chance to question him and press him on some of those things. i want to start off by saying, i questioned him about that statement, that if i had done this, nothing would be wrong. when i questioned him about that and say, how do you square that with your opposition for abortion in all cases, including if it's rape or incest, he literally denied saying that. of course, if somebody did say this morning, it tell you in some ways where herschel walker is. and i put the question to him, what do you make of the fact that your family, christian walker, your son, that they're saying don't trust you and you're a liar. he's saying this is all part of a democratic distraction and there's nothing see here. this is really people trying to stop him from running. i should say that his opponent, senator raphael warnock, she says that this is all disturbing. and when he gets to the voters, joy, i've been really, really struck. 1 or 2% -- 1 or 2% of the vote,
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and that could swing this important critical tight senate race. but voters that i'm talking to, they're not moving. if you're someone who didn't like herschel because of the domestic abuse allegations, you don't like them now. and a voter says 100% she believes that he did, but she said, i'm voting for him anyway, because i'm focused on inflation and crimes. and if he did do this, this was a mistake. and now he's on the right track because he has opposes abortion. that's what's going on here in georgia on the ground, joy. >> did you ask her what she thinks that guy -- and she heard him! so she can hear him like we can hear him, what does she think he's going to do about crime and inflation? what is his inflation and crime plan in her view? >> i asked her that. i said, how is voting for hersch walker going to better your life? she told me, it's really about the fact that these policies that the democrats have, that they are really wrong. but she didn't really articulate what specifically herschel
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walker as a u.s. senator can do for her. she really just bashed democrats and his opponents, which tells you about the tribalism here. people are in their camps. if you're a republican who already weathered trump and saw the "access hollywood" tape and hung on anyway, you're sticking with herschel walker. that tells you what the politics are here and how people are just shrugging their shoulders at this. >> they don't believe it. he got past apparently putting a gun to his wife's head and people said, that's not a big deal. these things happen. to me, this is the more minor scandal. if he can put a gun to his ex-wife head and people say, eh, things happen, it's clear there's no principle here other than what we saw dana lochte said the other day, women are skanks, who care what you do to them, i just want right-wing men in charge, end of story. if that is a part of the electorate, and you've got another part of the electorate, this is the republican lieutenant governor of the state, who are sort of like the
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small, rational piece of the party, here's jeff duncan. >> every republican knew that there was baggage out there, but the weight of that baggage is starting to feel a little bit closer to unbearable at this point. if we're being intellectually honest, herschel walker won the touchdown because he scored a bunch of touchdowns back in the '80s and he was donald trump's friend. >> this is so refreshing to hear somebody just be blunt. you have that small part of the party, and here's herschel walker's response to jeff duncan, to the lieutenant governor. >> right now, people like that, do i listen to them? people told him i can't play football. i'm here to win the seat for the georgia people because the georgia people need a winner. they don't need no one that we see going on right now. georgia people are looking for a winner. >> they don't even care what he says. i'm wondering what you make of the strategy that the democrats
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have of just sort of quietly letting it happen, juanita? because there's nothing you can do about these voters that are for herschel. if they're for herschel, dana lochte said they could abort baby eagles on television. day don't care. >> so they're in their camp, they're not moving. but i'm thinking about that tiny sliver of independent voters and voter enthusiasm among democrats that can be ratcheted up. so while senator reverend warnock might not be addressing this head on and wading into it, the pact supporting him better be. they better be cut and rung from now to election day. that's not going to store up anymore energy among democrats that are already committed to warnock, but they can go knock on doors, get on the phone, turn out even more voters against herschel walker. i think also, playing that message for independents and some republicans could potentially yield to them even skipping that question on their ballot, because they're like, he's too disgusting. i can't hold my nose and vote
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for this guy. i'll split my ticket and my ballot any way i want, but i'm not voting for herschel walker. i think, again, even though senator warnock is not engaging on this, the pac supporting him better be running ads. >> people inside of georgia are kind of wincing at him. welcome but the national republicans have made it clear, they don't care what he does. he really could kill someone on fifth avenue, they don't care. they just want the seat. i'm wondering what you make of the republican party's real openness about the contempt for women. there's a woman on that ballot, on the national ballot, stacey abrams. and at this point, they're just saying, we hate you, women. what makes them think that women will vote for them? >> it's an interesting question, and to yamiche's point, it's about that, but also just the rank tribalism here. and there are so many things going on here. it's the lying, it's the -- it's
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the -- you know, the hypocrisy. i mean, look, it's obvious, herschel walker is lying about this. republicans know that he's lying about it, and walker knows that they know that he's lying about it. and everybody's cool with it. everybody is okay with it. because it is all about power right now. it's all about this binary choice. it's all about, i don't care what he's done. i don't care whether or not -- and we should never make light of mental illness in any circumstances, but this is a man who has some severe issues here. and you listen to the argo bargo, the word salad from that gaggle that yamiche was answering questions, and you heard that babble, you have the lies, the hypocrisy, the unfitness of this man and republicans don't care and they're open about it. this is what's extraordinary. this is not new, you know. i mean, after "access hollywood," after six years of
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rationalizing donald trump, of course this is where they're going to be. it's just the openness, we don't care about character or truth or honesty. hypocrisy is just not a thing for us anymore. and for pro-lifers to say, yeah, in our mind, he is responsible for murdering a baby, but that's okay, because we want control of the senate more than that. and we don't care about it. and the fact that these charges are coming from women and his own son. these are the people whose lives you have impacted. we are all old enough to remember. when any one of these things would have been absolutely disqualifying. so what does it say about the republican party that they look at herschel walker and say, yeah, let's put this guy in the united states senate. >> but -- >> go ahead. >> but the republican party didn't look at him and say that,
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trump looked at him and said that. this was trump's pick and fully categorized as one of those candidates that mitch mcconnell qualified as a low-quality candidate, so no one wanted him but trump. >> but also, mitch mcconnell is willing to have him. mitch mcconnell doesn't care about the dignity of the united states senate. he will take it if he can get the majority. i have to ask you this other question. the great nicolle wallace has asked this question for a couple of days. if roy moore were running in this current cycle, don't you agree that he could have been easily elected given the way things work? . he was accused of having predatory predation towards little girls. he's win. >> you want to get a sense of where she's going. there's enough republicans that say, she is a sexual predator, may have engaged in sexual assault, we just can't go along
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with that. fast forward to now, where i think the party has become much more comfortable with saying, we just don't care. we want that vote in the united states senate. so i agree with you, again, this is what's important about this is to realize how this has changed. and. the there was time when somebody like a todd akin would be disqualified by republicans. there was a time not that long ago when enough republican voters would turn against roy moore, but i would completely agree that roy moore would win in this election cycle with this political ethos. >> easily. before we go, juanita toliver, are democrats making enough of the vow by people like lindsey graham to take this this national abortion ban, real quick? >> absolutely not. there's always more that can be done. i know that the democrats and non-profit organizations are investing millions into it, but we need millions more to compete with the onslaught of ads we know that are coming from republicans to make sure abortion stays front and center.
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>> and you know what you can do? you can elect women. there are a lot of women running statewide. you may not to put all of these men in charge if they're saying that women don't matter. thank you all very much. up next on the read out, democrats love to see their representatives fight back and right now they are fighting back hard on the republican fear tactics, and that is next. hard tactics, and that is next. mutua. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
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republicans are going all in on one issue. crime. releasing a garbage dump of attack ads targeting democrats in key states. perhaps the push has something to do with the realization that overturning roe was actually wildly unpopular. oh, by the way, they don't have any actual ideas on how to tackle other issues like inflation. but the strategy is actually something that we've seen before. back in 1988, when george herbert walker bush's campaign aired this ad. >> bush and dukakis on crime. bush supports the demonstrate for first-degree murderers. dukakis not only opposes the death penalty, he allowed first-degree murderers to have weekend passes from prison. one was willie horton, who murdered a boy in a robbery, stabbing him 19 times. despite a life sentence, horton received ten weekend passes from prison. horton fled, kidnapped a young couple, stabbing the man and repeatedly raping his girlfriend. weekend prison passes. dukakis on crime. >> the purpose of that ad was to scare white voters to the polls in support of push and away from
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his democratic opponent, michael dukakis, and it worked. so today's republican party ripped a page from the exact same racist fear-mongering playbook. in wisconsin, many of the pro-ron johnson ads have hammered barnes, calling him a dangerous democrat. while in pennsylvania, republican senate nominee mehmet oz has gone after his democratic opponent, john fetorman, calling his work on criminal justice reform pro-criminal and insinuating that his tattoos, which represent his commitment as mayor to end gun violence means that fetterman has ties to the crips. as a new ad from two democratic members of congress points out, republicans, including the house minority leader, don't exactly have the best track record when it comes to crime.
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kevin mccarthy, you want to talk about law and order, let's talk. bakersfield is now ranked as one of the top ten most dangerous metro areas in america. your own sheriff said, we know we have a violent crime issue. kevin, your district has been the murder capital of california for five years in a row. and if you're so concerned about crime, why did you vote against $350 billion in funding for law enforcement. every democrat voted for it. when democrats passed a bipartisan bill to fund local police departments, you didn't haven't bother casting a vote. >> joining me now is congressman eric swalwell. one of the democrats behind the ad. the other person is congresswoman ilhan omar. it's a pretty powerful ad, pointing out the high crime rate in kevin's own space. ouch. how did you come together to pull this off? >> it was her idea, joy. she wanted to join us tonight, i
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know she had another commitment come up. but we were talking about it, and ilhan said, why are we taking this crap from them on defund the police and the racist fearmongering that they're doing when mccarthy has the fifth highest murder capital in the country. she voted against funding police departments. he voted against the most recent grant program that ilhan and i both voted for. and when it came to january 6th cops, he rooted for the rioters, while the rest of us worked to honor the capitol police officers. he's not pro-cop, he's pro-coup and everyone needs to know that. >> and i know you're friends with a lot of capitol police officers, so you're talking about people that you have great relationships with. it is interesting that overall, crime doesn't rank that high when voters are asked what the most important issue is. it's well below things like the economy and abortion, which is more important. even climate change. things that we push to try to get people to talk more about. immigration. and crime is actually down. the fbi says that crime is down.
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violent crime is down. so why do you think republicans are zeroing in on something that is not -- that is not the top issue for voters, and it's also declining. >> it's because they don't want to work with the problems that the american people are face, joy. they want to work with their own power. and they do that through fearmongering or threatening violence. that's what we've seen all the way through. that's why it's important that democrats reclaim many of these values that we've legislated on and enacted to help people, like freedom. we're the party that believes every woman should make her own health care decision. we're the party that believes your kid shouldn't go to school in fear of gun violence. we're the party that believes you should be able to vote and have that vote counted. so i really want us to start pushing back against this nonsense, contrasting ourselves with maga republicans. i think we win on that. >> and how big is the buy and where is the ad running?
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>> it's run digitalally all over the country and joy, we have more coming. so, we are working on a few more that will roll out, partnering with other influencers around the country to tell the story of who the republicans are. we'll continue to fight for people. they'll continue to show themselves to fight exclusively on politics. and i think at the end of the day, in such a jump ball election, i would rather go with the party. >> let me ask you about a development that we just heard today. and i just tweeted a little while ago. it is a bfd, president biden pardoning thousands and thousands of people who have been convicted of simple marijuana possession. there are a lot of people, speaking of crime, who have been deemed as criminals for doing something that, you know, bros in colorado and california are doing and making billions off of because it's legal in those states. what do you make of this move and what do you think the impact will be of the president pardoning marijuana -- people who are convicted of marijuana, federal marijuana possession? >> fully support it, joy.
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and disproportionately, black and brown americans have suffered because of this. and as a prosecutor, i saw that when it comes to crime, law enforcement often were bogged down in prosecuting misdemeanor marijuana cases, when they would rather attack violent crime that hurts our community. so i actually see this as a pro-police initiative, if we can truly decriminalize or legalize marijuana and give law enforcement officers the funding and the tools they need to attack robberies, to attack homicides, and not to waste their time with something that overwhelmingly, the majority of americans never community, rural and urban, support. >> i have to -- i would be remiss if i didn't ask you, we do have the january 6th -- the january 6th committee is going to meet again next week, so we'll be back looking at sort of the things that happened on january 6th. we also have this oathkeepers' trial that is continuing to go on. a couple of headlines. oathkeepers founder emmer
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stewart rhodes apparently claims to have contact with a secret service agent according to a former member of the group who testified to that in the trial on thursday. we also have one of the seditious conspiracy -- people charged with seditious conspiracy actually bleeding guilty. that is a member of the proud boys. as a former prosecutor yourself, what do you make of these developments? >> we need to know if that was true, joy. we already know that there were those in the white house communicating with, you know, violent rioters outside the white house. that's what former congressman denver riggleman, part of that team has told the public. but it's so important that this hearing happened. and we saw roger stone in some of the video that i think he'll come forward in the next hearing encourage violence and say, it's time to carry out violence. because we have an election coming out. another inflection point in our country. and we have one side that is more comfortable with violence than voting. joy, i liken the republican party today, the maga republicans to biff canon of
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back to the future. they don't have any ideas. they just resort -- their default is violence. our default is voting and the will of the american people. and this next hearing will connect the violence that donald trump and his team knew about and make sure that when we have another election, we don't let this happen again. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you so much for being here. please thank representative omar. and we know she wasn't able to be here tonight, baa thank you very much for being here. coming up, how many of the gop candidates or the republican candidates -- i don't even know about calling them the gop anymore -- in the upcoming ballot still believe that the 2020 election was stolen? way too many and the danger goes well beyond the candidates. the poll workers and others behind the scenes, they're the once on the front lines. more on that, next. ce on the fr. more on that, next in the next second, 14 families will decide... that's it, we're getting a bigger house! finally. but we gotta sell this place. before we buy the next place. and then in the meantime... so how long are you staying? emily, no!
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on november 8th, our democracy is quite literally on the ballot. last night in one critical state, arizona, house january 6th committee member liz cheney gave a stark warning to voters. >> in arizona today, you have a candidate for governor in kari lake, you have a candidate for secretary of state in mark fincham, both of whom have said, this is ant surprise, it's not a secret, they've both said that they will only honor the results of an election if that agree
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with it. if you care about democracy and care about the survival of our republic, you need to understand, you have to understand that we cannot give people power who have told us that they will not honor elections. >> and while the two candidates cheney mentioned, kari lake and mark fincham are among the most egregious threats, a majority of republicans on the ballot, 299 in ul, have denied or questioned the 2020 presidential election result. it's so widespread that there's at least one election denier running for federal or state office in almost every state. only two states, rhode island and north dakota, didn't nominate an election denier for any office. three others, montana, tennessee, and west virginia nominated election deniers for every office. but in addition to the peril that's on the ballot, there's also the continuing threat of violence against frontline election workers. today the just ahead announced that an iowa man was arrested for threatening to hang arizona election officials.
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all the more reason why federal officials have warned of the shortage of election workers, due to those threats. while in some other states, the concern is protecting the election from groups who are trying to undermine the election. the michigan official told politico that there's concern that bad faith precinct workers could intentionally turn away and disenfranchise voters. but with early voting already underway in key states, tonight's democracy defenders are working overtime to ensure that voters, especially young voters and voters of color, are armed with the knowledge they need and a plan to get out their vote and that is next. nd a planr vote and that is next.
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the midterm elections are just 33 days away, but in many states, it's already here. in tonight's -- in tonight's democracy debate, workers are working to ensure that between now and november 8th, young people and communities of color are empowered to reclaim their vote. when we all vote, the nonpartisan initiative is working to close the race and age gap in voter participation, encouraging voter registration and early voting. joining me now is stephanie young, executive director of when we all vote. tell us how it gets done. are there issues that are pulling young voters to the polls? because we talk a lot about abortion on this show and women's, you know, freedom. we just saw president obama --
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president biden, you know, do something about marijuana possession, pardon a lot of people for that. we've seen student loan relief. what are the issues that you're hearing about on the ground? oh, i don't think we have your audio! uh-oh, you're muted, you're muted! there we go! >> i apologize! >> that's okay. i was saying, those were all the issues that young people are caring about. you named them all. when it comes to their own power over their bodies, when it comes to the cost of education, when it comes to climate change and climate justice. young people aren't as attached to political parties, but rather attached to the issues. that's why we partnered with an organization called climate power, so we could hope to engage more young people around climate change and climate justice work. and ensure that they were not just registered, but they're ready to vote, they're making a plan, and recruiting others to do the exact same thing.
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>> i did mention gun violence, we've seen so much of that activism among young people, whether it's the parkland kids and others. i wonder when you're talking, are they connecting political power and voting to change in those issues that they care about? or are they seeing it as not important, not connected, not the way to actually get what they want? >> in 2020, we saw 50% of young people vote. that's the highest number of young people voting in a general election, so we know that they are making progress. we also know that after polling in the 2020 election, when literally we all vote, we actually become a movement. i understand that voting is a part of the process. it's not the end-all be-all, but it is the first step to ensuring that we see our community change and move forward.
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and we saw a huge uptick in participation. we just saw a big week of action. where over 22,000 checked their status or got registered. we had young people on campuses, in high schools, hosting their own voter registration event. the energy is there. they're recognizing their power. gen z represents one out of ten american voters, and they are the most diverse. but only 8% of them consume traditional news. we know that we have to go to places to reach them where they are, but they're ready and ready to get out there. >> and let me ask you about this question of intimidation. because we know, everything from the proud boys stationing themselves at election places, we know that as voting, it takes a way. about intimidation at the polls? >> i'm from atlanta, georgia, and you know, we saw the long lines, election after election, and we understand that this
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state along with states like florida and texas, they have all suppressed voter suppression laws. we've saw over 520 laws or legislation introduced all around this country, people are on high alert. that's why this week is so important. it's national voter education week, and this is a time to educate voters on how to make a plan to vote. what that 1-866-our-vote number is to help ensure that they are confident and they know that they have someone to lean on. >> and what do you think the reaction would be? i mean, there are plenty of states where election deniers are saying, if they don't like the results and get elected, there's no returning them. are young voters aware of that and are they aware that who they put in will determine whether elections count? >> you know, that's the thing right now. as you were talking about election deniers that are running for elections this year, what's really, really scary right now is, is how we're looking at those secretaries of state and those attorney general seats that are up for
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re-election or election in a number of states. almost 30 states. and we're talking about, these are the people that are going to actually determine what the election in 2024 looks like. so right now, it's not just how are we encouraging people to vote, but educating them on the entire ballot. we have a tool called ballot ready. it's a great organization that we work with, where folks can look up their tools, but we emphasize these offices in particular that so that, number one, folks are more aware that it's not just a member of congress or a senator or a governor, all of these rules, so we can see a democracy continue and beyond. and how much is michelle obama going to get directly involved in this initiative? >> she's been involved. we had a huge summit this june called the culture of democracy summit. she gave an exceptional speech. she talked about how fragile
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this democracy is and how we all had to get out and vote. she also helped us to roll out national black voter day with chris paul. she's been out there, and you can expect to see her maybe in a couple of weeks at some point. >> if you talk with the former first lady, please let her know that she and her fabulous braids are welcome to come on this show. there's a seat for her right now on "the reidout." we really appreciate it, stephanie young. coming up, please don't forget to plan your vote for information on registration, deadlines, early voting and more. and coming up next on "the reidout," the united states hits iran with additional sanctions. more on this after the break sas more on this after the break
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of 22-year-old mahsa amini have now stretched into the third week. amini died last month the days after being arrested by iran's morality police for allegedly failing to fully cover her hair. iran's government insists amini wasn't abused and that it would conduct an investigation into the cause of her death. the iranian regime has made a concerted effort to stop the uprising by disrupting the internet and cracking down on street protests and write troops. the brave women and girls continue to lead the fight.
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in one recent incident, iranian girls chased a hard liner out of a school, while shouting shameless at him. nbc does not know whether the -- it is still astounding to see young women uncovered shouting for their freedom. another video shows yet another large crowd of young women again uncovered, shouting down a man and telling him to get lost. the man is reportedly part of the security group cracking down on the protests. since the election, hard-line president last year, morality patrols have grown more aggressive. the fact that we are getting these images is pretty astonishing given the lengths of the theocratic government is going to snuff out the scent. women around the globe are showing support and solidarity, some by cutting off their hair, others like iranian cartoonists -- are showing support by showing their art as protest. -- who now lives in the u.s. and joins me now. thank you so much for being here. here are is beautiful. it's very evocative.
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the hair being the sort of subject of mahsa amini death and the tool of protests for women. talk about that for a little bit. >> right. first of all i need to mention about the islamic regime government. from the beginning of this government, 43 years ago, and this regime were always against women's rights. we never, ever wanted this regime in iran. women always didn't want this regime. this regime was mandatory everything for women. and this time, women remove their heads car and fire their head scarf. they were just trying to stand for their rights. the good news that we don't scare. we are here to stand for our rights and remove this regime.
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this time, it's not only about women's rights. this time, this week, men and women, they are all together to fight for their right to just remove this regime. we don't want them. they are terrorists. they are going to -- i want to -- i want help from all these countries, all these governments, all these people who are calling themselves human being. if you call yourself a human, to support these people some -- people coming to this regime, in this muslim regime government, they are just terrorists. they are not from us. they are not from iran. iran has more than 5000 years history. we never, ever had this kind of abusive regimes against a woman in my country. we cannot fight with culture. we have a rich culture. we have brave women.
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they can bring women down with their rules, their mandatory things on the base of religion, they cannot do that. all this pressure was like pressure for a diamond. they built brave women right now. they cannot win. we will win. we will remove this regime. we need these women, these people, they need our help. we need to raise our voice to help them. and i, as a cartoonist woman, at the only cartoonists school in the united states, i'm here for them. i'm fighting with my cartoons. our hair has power because the government is trying to remove, the government will remove the scarf. the rules are on our scarf -- if that's their power, they can remove it. we can do this. we need to fight about it. we are fighting for human
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rights. it's not just for women's rights. >> let me ask you, this is an elder, it's a gerontocracy, a very elderly government. iran is full of young people, the average age is much younger than the united states. if you think because these are young people who are insisting on change, it's ironic that when they came, they were the student movement. now it's the students. it's young people. do you think this can be sustained long enough to have a change in the government? >> it could be. but i need to mention something. 43 years ago, and the islamic regime built their mandatory rules for women, we had a woman movement in my country from that beginning. we had revolution against these hijab mandatory things. it happened once 43 years ago. it's not something new. it's not something that just happened because of the young
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generation. i come from the same generation. i was in the streets 15 years ago against his government. they have a lot of corruption. they are lying to us. they are -- their own people. they are not representing persian people. they are truly different kind of people. they are less than 1000 people. they will fight with 84 million people in iran. people all are angry about this system, this situation. we are fighting as much as we can. actually, i love this action from these young people, especially young girls, they are so brave. i really admire them. they really inspired me. and they inspire all women all over the world. we are all here next to them. they should not feel that they are alone. i'm here. >> indeed. i think the world is with them. you can see those pictures
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taking place on the screen. the world is absolutely with a young women and men standing with them in iran. thank you very much. that is tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts now. ut all in with chris hayes star ts now. tonight on all in, -- >> if that had happened, i would have said, because there's nothing to be ashamed of -- >> the walker defense keeps changing by the hour. >> he said if this did happen, there is nothing to be ashamed of. >> i never said -- >> new reporting that walker's accuser is the mother of his child. new concerns from republicans about what they are defending. and the real world implications of the draconian laws herschel walker wants to inflict on you. then, the head of the oath keepers may have been in contact with the secret service. what we learned today at the seditious conspiracy trial. plus, the under the radar democrat who could pull off a north carolina senate stunner. and why today's federal
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