waters. the same direction as the missiles the country launched on tuesday. joining us by phone is nbc news foreign correspondent, matt bradley. matt what are you learning? >> well lindsey, we have very few details. of course we just heard about this incident. this is not something that was not anticipated, this is in the midst of a tit-for-tat exchange between a north korean on one side. and then the united states in the south korean on the japanese on the other side. this is following a typical pattern, i oversaw back in 2017. where we are seeing an increase tempo of the north koreans firing test of intercontinental ballistic missiles, short range ballistic missiles. and whatever this was. we don't actually know quite yet what projectile was fired. but this was certainly a response, part of this pattern of these firing of test missiles, and then on the side of the united states. south korea, the japanese,

engaging in military exercises. which north korean some publicly stated, repeatedly that they find provocative and they see as kind of a rehearsal for an invasion of north korea. just hours before, we saw this latest missile strike, we had a statement from north korea. condemning united states redeployment of an aircraft carrier. that specifically the u.s. has ronald reagan near the korean peninsula. and the north korean's call this, their statements are typically have the sort of awkward phrasing. they called it a considerably huge negative splash and regional security. and they said that they were defending themselves with missile tests, which they have been doing since the beginning of the year. and, again increasing frequency. they told us a righteous reaction to these intimidating military drills. so you know, this really has seen this year a big increase in the pace and in the tone of

these missile tests. and again, in the tit-for-tat sort of answers by the united states missile korean. in exercises around the korean peninsula. so this is really threatening to a lot of people who observe northeast asia and korean peninsula. it does look a lot like 2017. there is a lot that is different, back in 2017 president donald trump was deliberately instigating north korean, kim jong-un. at the time it looked as if president biden to push him towards war. that change later when president trump and kim jong-un got together and engage in peace talks that would almost successful. but that 2017 escalation ended in a test of a nuclear weapon. that's what a lot of people are worried could happen this year. that there could be another test of another north korean nuclear weapon. >> matt bradley, important to keep our eye on. not to politics here at home,

31 days before the midterms, we will start in wisconsin where senator ron johnson faced off against democratic challenger, lieutenant governor mandela barnes. on the debate stage. no surprise, the issue of abortion rights was front and center. >> the question that has to be, answered at what point do society have the responsibility to protect life? it is just that simple. >> a tenured role in ohio was raped and had to cross state lines to get an abortion. that is ron johnson's america. >> and we, see truly is in milwaukee where barnes is holding a so-called rally for roe. so, julie lieutenant governors made abortion rights a top issue of his campaign. is it hitting home with voters? >> yes that is the question i asked voters this morning. and i also asked lieutenant governor barnes when he held the rally, just behind me the marshall high school in milwaukee that rocked a few moments ago. our crowd of about 100 to 200 people here gathered for him. all about abortion protections.

all about roe, i asked why he is making this the focus. the central message of his campaign. a month now from the midterms, in an election where republicans are using crime and economy to boost our numbers. take a listen to what he told me. >> the overturn of roe was a huge overstep. by the supreme court. and look, these people are playing politics with the health and safety and the lives of women in wisconsin. 70% of people here agree that roe should be law of the land. >> well, look for ron johnson's part, his campaign telling nbc news in a statement that it is barnes who was too extreme on abortion. because they say he does not have any restrictions, in terms of one woman should obtain abortions or not. of course barnes pushing back on that saying should be up to the individual woman. and i asked a voter from kenosha, wisconsin. she had her husband voted for johnson in the past. this time say they are supporters of barnes. take a listen to why that is. ters of ba rnes i don't think that middle age

white men should be making decisions for women at all. i have always been pro-life, my whole life. i am not in favor of abortion but i am not in favor of taking away over a woman's right to choose. we actually voted for ron johnson once in the past because he seemed honest in his commercials. and he is not honest, and in fact he is very dishonest. >> one of those themes of dishonesty she told me concerned the pandemic, concerned also the insurrection. she did not like a senator, ron johnson handled both of those matters and we will see in the coming weeks if mandala barnes is successful with his focus on abortion. the razor-thin margin of a race right now between the two candidates. >> julie tsirkin, thank you. next we will go to north carolina where last, night democrats cheri beasley and republican congressman ted budd had their first and likely only debate of this election.

to replace retirement -- richard burr. joining me right now, antonia hylton and raleigh. antonia, how tight is this race? which key issues defined last night's debate? >> lindsey, the race is really tight. while it has not necessarily been on the top of most people's minds nationally, it's been a bit sleepy or at times here than it has been say in georgia or in pennsylvania. the reality, as the standings are at stake. here when we're talking about the balance of the senate. for much of the time, they've been a statistical tie. which is significant here. what we are finding out as the two candidates are trying to paint each other as extreme, because they are finding that they're in a battle essentially for those who are in the middle. a purple state again the margins are going to be very thin in this race. so what really stood out to me last night was first, the conversation around abortion. that was a conversation that democrats cheri beasley, made some of the most effective arguments in. people in north carolina, seek to react really positively to. their argument essentially being that as a supporter of

access to abortion. reproductive rights. she is more in line with north carolina eons and the voting age population. then her opponent is. he really shine when it came to things like inflation, the economy, pocketbook issues and crime. and then sort of waffled on his views around abortion. and what exactly, what kind of restrictions or ideal legislation he would be looking for. take a listen to what happened last night. >> i have denounce violence from day one. whether it's at washington d.c. or whether it is the riots that my opponent was encouraging all across our state and our across the country in 2020. i believe whether it's in washington, d.c. at the capitol or whether it's downtown raleigh or downtown charlotte. i will denounce violence, and i will encourage my opponent to do the same thing. >> congressman but has been very clear and i said that she supports and is leading the charge on an absolute ban on abortion. without exceptions for rape, incest or risk to a mother's

health. the bottom line is, congressman but wants to be in between a woman and her doctor. and there is no place and the exam room for congressman bud. >> it will be interesting in the coming weeks to see how post ups the calculus in this race has changed. you are even seeing now you know democrats more nationally become more interested in this race frankly. starting to pump millions of more dollars into the fight here. and believing she is the best behind and most polling behind the ted budd. she still has a chance to pull this off. as if he'd more women but even you know, young people and more broadly not just women. really reengage in the midterms. types of voters who often are thought to not pay attention and these kinds of cycles. start to get involved because of what is at stake here. lindsey? >> antonia hilton thank you so much. breaking overnight in and there was no, no accord has overruled the states abortion ban. the procedure will not be allowed unless the state supreme court jumps into intervene.

the ruling comes as tight battles in the state for governor and u.s. senate continue, just weeks ahead of the midterms. joining me right now with more 's von hill in phoenix. you are at a woman's march on abortion rights on. what has been the reaction overnight there to the overturning in the ban? >> right, lindsey it's a situation where the policy is playing out in realtime with the backdrop of the politics. four days from, now early ballots are going into the mailboxes of arizona voters. that is what the backdrop is for the decision by the arizona circuit court of appeals. the state was down here at the territorial ban. this was a loss back in 1864 that outright ban abortions in the state of arizona. unless a woman's life was deemed to be in jeopardy. and now, with that same issue by the court, the 15-week ban which was a statute that was the arizona governor doug doocy earlier this year, now that law is the one that goes into place here. and that is when you talk about the politics, all of this is

happening front and center. we are looking at the remnants of the woman's march that happened here in phoenix. earlier but there are several under folks here as well as the attorney general, democratic candidate, as well as katie hobbs. the democratic candidate for governor here. because when you're looking at a republican opponent, you are talking about blake masters who was running for the u.s. senate. in a debate this week from r. kelly said that he stood behind that 15-week abortion ban. carrie like, the republican candidate for governor said that she would defend that law as well as if she were to become governor. and that is where you see these democrats fight back. i want to let you hear, though i know a little bit of an exchange and i was able to jump with katie hobbs. because she is a democrat running for governor again scary like. and she has come under criticism because she is refused to appear on stage, at forums as well as the bait the likes of carey lake. and make these types of issues front and center. i asked her about the decision not to debate career like, take a listen. >> there is been pushback, even at the end of the forms that

carry like has been that. and that you haven't agreed to a debate with her. why not? >> i would love nothing more than an opportunity to have a substantive conversation about the issues. how we differ and how we would govern. >> that cannot happen on a stage with keri lake who showed she is more interested in making a spectacle and anything else. i was out the spanish and reform on monday. where she did create a spectacle, because she would not follow the rules she had agreed to when she agreed to participate. i am looking for opportunities where i'm able to have the case to voters that forum has been televised today. by innovation, and we are participating in other forums where we have a chance to talk one-on-one. voters can hear directly from me, without the circus that kerlick once to create. >> now katie hobbs spoke to this gathering a several hundred at this arizona woman's march here just earlier this afternoon. but, again we are talking about just four days until early ballots go out. this is a big week for arizona

politics. donald trump has come into town. he will be campaigning alongside the likes of carey lake. like masters, as well as the secretary of state candidate. and attorney that he endorsed and the primary and meanwhile you are seeing katie hobbs go out on the trail as well as the democrats in this is the big time in arizona lindsey. >> sure is, let's go to the south now in georgia. gop senate canada, herschel walker continues to face new developments surrounding allegations. he paid for a girlfriend of an abortion. while campaigning on banning abortions with no exceptions. here's what we're learning, nbc news has now obtained text messages between walker's wife and that very woman who alleges he paid for her abortion. walker telling nbc news and part, i am not saying she did or did not have one. i'm saying i don't know anything about that. i don't know. the new york times is now spoken with this woman, she says walker urge her to have a second abortion. which she declined to do, ultimately choosing to have their son instead. walker's campaign declined comment to the new york times about the woman's account.

from, or bring in tina mitchell, washington correspondent for the atlanta journal-constitution. so téa, what are the ripple effects from these latest developments. the people in the state think that there could be more to come? >> yes, i think there are lots of georgian to think there could be more to come. because there's already been a lot that has been revealed that is trickled out about herschel ocher. that being said, the impact you know, a lot of voters have already made up their minds and it'll be hard to change them. we know that the majority of republicans are still planning to vote for herschel walker. no majority of democrats are still planning to not vote about herschel ocher. of course we are talking about those folks in the middle, and some independents, maybe some moderate voters who could be swayed and turned off by his repeated controversies. that will be a small number of people but enough people that could impact the outcome of the race. >> let's talk about that because you write a piece in which you say quote, the for us

as the block of voters who believe walker's denials when he is called the claims of flat out lying. the second those who believe and are troubled by walker's history of violent behavior. but supportive anyway saying they will do it it takes for a gop-controlled senate. and it's the third group that republican operatives worry could swing the senate election. they are the otherwise reliable gop voters, who indicate and pulls a will either vote for the libertarian, warnock or escape the senate race altogether. are there enough people in that category three to sink walker's campaign? >> yes, we have to be clear that these people existed even before the latest controversies. now the latest controversies have more people make some minds. do not support her chihuahua walk, or yes possibly but we always knew that you know, raphael warnock's an incumbent and so. he is going to get some crossover voters who say you know, they have been doing the job for a couple of years and i am satisfied with him. and again, there is a third party candidate. a libertarian who in georgia,

the libertarian candidates are generally considered taking votes away from a publicans. and again, there are perhaps some folks who are conservative and cultural conservatives who generally support republican candidates. but could find that you know, not palatable to support someone who is rumored to have been perhaps a hypocrite on the issue of abortion. somebody who may not be the family man who he portrayed himself and the type of family man that they wanted to support. we do think those types of conservatives, christian voters do exist. >> they have been campaigning on this, you write about wine. you say warnock is trying to avoid the democrats call a boomerang effect. they're concerned that intervening will inadvertently give republicans a new rallying cry by distracting attention away from walker's headaches. but you know the warnock campaign had a new ad about some of these allegations.

let us listen. >> details tonight about accusation that continue to follow senate candidate herschel walker. >> walker's ex-wife today grossman got a protective order against him. her sister submitted an affidavit saying he stated unequivocally that he would shoot my sister sandy. >> but the gun to my tumble. >> he had the gun to your head. what did he say? >> i will blow your blank brains out. >> so lawrence for the strategy to? >> so i know it's a few things, number one i think in general, the political strategy is if you think your opponent is digging themselves a hole, then you don't have to put anywhere, collect them now to their own dirty work. you can keep your hands clean so to speak. i think that is part of, a the warnock campaign believes that herschel ocher is creating problems for himself all on his own without a need for us to get involved and bile on. i also think you know, we have

to know that senator warnock did have a messy divorce, as part of that his ex-wife did accuse him of hurting her one morning and running over her foot with the car. now we do not face any charges, police say they found no evidence that actually happened. not necessarily apples and apples. i think that would make the war not camp a little bit hesitant also to get to a involved with passing those on herschel walker. knowing his critics are eager to turn around and cast stones back on him. so again, it just kind of seems to make sense to let him leave that kind of thing to others who are already widely critical of herschel walker. but to your point those ads about the domestic violence charges that herschel walker faces. that is something that the warnock campaign has started running as on. using his ex wives words against him. directly in her own words.

and i think again, what you are not necessarily seeing as raphael warnock saying these things. but what the campaign is saying is listen to these women who were in herschel aukus live. who say that you know, he had some very troubling and abusive behavior. >> all right to mitchell, thank you. still ahead this hour, the impact on president biden's newly announced plans to pardon thousands of people convicted of marijuana possession. but, first ole miss republican governor has signed into law a bill that would bar one of the states largest hospital systems. from getting millions and federal pandemic funds. unless, they and gender affirming care. the states first nonbinary member of the oklahoma legislature joins me next. e joins me next. like #6 the boss. pepperoni kicks it off. with meatballs smothered in rich marinara. don't forget the fresh mozzarella. don't you forget who the real boss is around here. it's subway's biggest refresh yet.

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your reaction to that statement from the governor. >> sure i guess first and foremost, thank you so much for having me. congratulations on the new logo. i think my initial reactions right, makes that of oklahomans everywhere. it's shocking and jarring and like we've been doing for the past few years, we will continue the battle to make sure that this is a safe and welcoming and affirming place for all oklahomans. it is heartening to see some of our top leadership fall in line with this. and makes me more ready than ever to continue to fight. >> there's a lot of parents who i'm talking about the say it's an issue of mental health for their kids. to be able to get this kind of care. the loss of the side 39 point $4 million for a new pediatric mental health facility. that facility will now be unable to provide gender affirming care. how important is it for young

people in your state to have access to this? >> very right? this type of care could very well be the difference between life and death for a lot of use. as a nonbinary kid in oklahoma, it was paramount to have a parent specifically right who cared for me. and you love me and guided me through this. and now double -- the last few years, i provided an extra level of care to be able to stop some suicide attempts. to be able to really provide a different type of care. for family around oklahoma. and with the loss of that now, we know that even what we just used to correct pronouns, that's an active harvard action. and to make sure that our state is continuously punching down on the most vulnerable populations does a great deal of harm to the mental health,

not only the youth right but their entire communities. and families that support them. everybody is like what is next right? so. >> representative turner, you were this will set a precedent for other states with republican majority legislatures? >> absolutely right? this is not something that is just happening here in oklahoma. we see the republican party across the u.s. continue to take shots at our organ to the punch down on our trans youth and lgbtq+ community as a whole. for them it is easier to continuously punch down than actually provide the resources. and right now in oklahoma, there are prisons and jails are filled with people who are suffering from a lack of access to a living wage right? from folks of a lack of access to affordable housing. access to health care, specifically mental health care. we are continuously doing the wrong type of legislation and

policy. in order to further some sort of political agenda that gets folks elected again rather than actually have the courage to take care of oklahomans. >> state representative, more turner of oklahoma. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, president biden said to me lives have been upended over the country's failed approach to marijuana. how pardoning those convicted for possession will impact the criminal justice system next. m next like #9 the champ. rotisserie style chicken. double monterey cheddar. the champ is truly made for a champ. gee, thanks chuck. who said anything about you? it's subway's biggest refresh yet. technically when enamel is gone, you cannot get it back. but there are ways you can repair it. i'm excited about pronamel repair because it penetrates deep into the tooth to help actively repair acid-weakened enamel. i recommend pronamel repair to my patients. if you really wanna find out what you're made of, you can forget the personality tests

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sentence back in 2004. the sentence was to agree just, even the judge delivered the verdict, a bush appointed republican described it as quote, just not right. and a prime example of when our federal justice system fails. angelo, the father of three served 13 years in prison for those charges. it was released in 2020. after a full pardon from former president trump, now an activist and advocate for marijuana reform. he joins me now, thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> what is your reaction to this news? do you think at the side other countries beginning to change its discourse on cannabis after all of these years? >> absolutely, certainly encouraging and there has not been an action like this and jimmy carter. when he pardoned the draft today so i'm certainly encouraged by this action. >> when you went to prison, your kids were little on when you went out they were obviously 13 years older. you lost 13 years of freedom. why is it so important for you to be an advocate now?

>> well i came home to a much different world, cannabis is legalized and most of the country. so everything that i went to prison for is now currently illegal. and they're still thousands of people currently incarcerated for doing the same thing that i did. something that society no longer considers criminal. >> what is your matches -- on tennessee's bill lee who say they will not budge on cannabis and their state. the issues of the federal issue right? it is happening at the state level. when we see the public opinion, really moving forward on this issue. >> certainly more convictions on the state level and it's a smaller system. so more of the action needs to come from the governors on a state level. really ridiculous because i believe it is 70 plus percent of americans want to see cannabis legalized fully. >> this is the first, up a lot of work remains. you are actually a part of the biden administration's new clemency program for cannabis

offenders. talk to us about your work. >> yeah so we have been working with the biden administration. we are trying to focus on individuals who are still incarcerated. because of individuals who are actually following state law but were prosecuted federally under the bush administration. these are the individuals that we need to focus on. i am happy that he pardon individuals with these misdemeanor convictions. but people with felony convictions are living a difficult life. when i got, out i came out to a legalized state. i had all of these barriers to getting a job, apartments because of my conviction. thankfully, i was pardoned but most people will experience that. we need to do a lot more. >> what is their biggest master to people or listening to your story right now? >> i think we need to focus on pressuring our lawmakers to end prohibition. the majority of the country wants to end this destructive war. and i think it's time that we react. >> angelo, thank you for joining us.

i want to get today the competition of the most prominent voices on capitol hill. calling for change on the country's policies on marijuana. near congressman, jamal. congressman good afternoon. >> good afternoon, thanks for having me. >> last year, you wrote a lesson to the president with fellow members of the congressional cannabis caucus calling for these federal pardons. so now that has come to fruition, what impact will this have? >> first of all, bravo to the president for heating our call and the college many activists over many years who have been pushing for this to be done. now, it is time for us to go even further. it is time to make marijuana legal at the federal level and now in terms of impact we are talking about 6500 individuals who are cabal be reared franchised. get their lives back and finally pursued the pathway to self determination that they dreamed of after they did their

time and serve their debt to society. no more barriers to housing, no more barriers to unemployment. true freedom where they can start families and live their lives without this hanging over them. as we, know we have to go further and there are still people incarcerated because of drug convictions, whether they were using or distributing. but now that marijuana's being in so many states we have to go further and somebody is incarcerated because of an addiction, not to marijuana but other drugs, they need treatment. they do not a jail time. hopefully, we are evolving as a society. >> why do you congressman as a lawmaker due to see this through for example to the state level? >> absolutely, i'm so happy that the president called on governors as a country to step up and do the same thing. we know that new york has moved in that direction, which is great. we want to continue to push our colleagues in congress to push

their local elected officials to get this done at the local level and at the state level. we need the grassroots organizing to continue to make sure that these pardons happen at the state level. we also need to make sure that at the federal level marijuana is not a schedule one drug. right now is the same category as fentanyl and methamphetamine's. which is absolutely absurd. we are happy that president is calling for that to be changed as well. calling on -- hhs to reschedule marijuana. methamphetamine is causing all of the opioid addiction that we are seeing across this country. marijuana is not the same thing and should not be on the level of lsd or stronger than lsd. good to see the president taking this leadership role. >> congressman, one of the barriers to rescheduling marijuana as a less harmful drug. and how eminent could it change like that be. >> i think it's startling it's been a collective consciousness

of the country. where people have believed that marijuana is a quote unquote gateway drug. and i know i don't smoke marijuana but i'd that smoke marijuana at a time. it's not a gateway drug. people use it to treat pain, it is for pain management. use for any other things. there are other drugs who can be used for a variety of the is that we need to research that we aren't aware of because of these particular schedules. >> it is not something they can do by executive order for example? >> no, this is under the jurisdiction of hhs as far as i understand it. but that the mindset of the country has changed, laws have changed and now it's time to reschedule marijuana. >> both you and your letter of the president statement rather address the racial component to the situation saying despite similar usage among all races, why people are nearly four times less likely to be

arrested on cannabis charges. and yet own more than 80% of cannabis storefronts and legal states. on one hand you have people being true at criminals, the other hand of people treated us essentially entrepreneurs. what more needs to be done to address these inequalities? >> i mean that's america unfortunately. s these inequalities we continue to see institutional racism exists. and so many aspects of american life, this is just one of them. this is why it's about pardons, it's about overturning convictions. and then it's about reinvesting in the individuals who were harmed by marijuana convictions and the first place. and reinvest and communities that have been harmed. also legacy marijuana, businesses if you will not are often kept out of the process of becoming legal businesses because they don't have the capital. so it's on us at the federal level but also at the state level, to invest the capitol

and these legacy individuals and businesses. so that they can benefit as entrepreneurs as well. the re-schedule and i want to go back to that for a moment because of the current schedule when somebody is arrested for simple possession, they are more likely to get harder prison sentences. as a result of where marijuana is scheduled. and of course, our criminal justice system is still disproportionately black and brown. it's absolutely a racial justice issue. >> congressman, jamal bowman of new york, thank you. after the break, a huge explosion rocks a strategically important bridge. linking russia and the crimean peninsula. peninsula. or an unbearable itch. this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. it could make your workday feel impossible. the virus that causes shingles

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damaged two sections of the only bridge linking the occupied crimean peninsula to russia. the blast disrupts an important supplier line for russian troops. authorities say ukrainian truck bombs caused the blast, but the ukrainian government which praised the damage stopped short of taking responsibility. this is three people were killed. that when nbc news exclusive, a refugee camp in syria is being used by isis to recruit fighters. the refugee camp was opened in 1991 during the first gulf war, and in the last 30 years has not only become a humanitarian disaster but a serious international terrorist threat. we share the details on how the

biden administration is dealing with the situation there. >> the biden administration has a new plan to decrease the population of a refugee camp in northeast syria that has become as much of an isis breeding ground as a place for syrians to go to escape the fighting in their country. according to a number of administration officials that spoke with our carole lee, and i, they are making this a priority and a number of meetings. both in the diplomatic world and in the military world. when they talk to allies who have citizens who are being held at the hall refugee camp in syria, they are encouraging these countries to take their citizens back to repatriate them back to their home countries. the vast majority of the roughly 57,000 people who are in this refugee camp right now are women and children. in fact, most of them are children. but the concern now is that in addition to many of these people who are just seeking refuge in that country, there are isis fighters, and isis

sympathizers who have infiltrated the camp. just recently the syrian democratic forces who were responsible for the security of the camp held several week-long operations where they cleared out about 300 isis fighters from the camp. and according to u.s. military and defense officials who i spoke with, there are still many left behind, including a lot of women who are married to isis fighters who have just been sympathizers, or supporters of the cause. the biden administration is not the first to take on this problem. the trump administration also tried to clear out some of these refugees from the camp. but as the population has grown, there are roughly 80 babies born there every single month that we know about. the population is growing, and more and more of them become vulnerable to isis. both being recruited by isis, or being forced into serving the terror network. the security situation there and the humanitarian situation

there have also grown more and more tenuous. the biden administration now working to try to reduce a population, but many of the countries do not want to take these people back. they are worried that they could be isis sympathizers and they could actually present some sort of a security problem back in their home nations. >> all right courtney, thank you. still ahead, another january 6th hearing scheduled for next week. will we hear anything about ginni thomas's closed-door testimony? more on that, next. n that, next discover sound that can truly move you in the 2022 grand wagoneer. awarded best driver appeal by j.d. power. [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah.

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correspondent luke broadwater. i want to ask you about the new york times reporting that the doj believes former president trump may have more documents asked to return. what more as they learn? >> both the doj and the national archives have indicated in recent weeks out there is more material out there that they do not have. i am not exactly sure what those documents are. but, this does raise serious questions for president trump, and the fact that he has not fully complied with the justice department's demand to return all of the documents. and it does ways questions about what other properties of justice department could be looking at. e we know there was quite a lengthy search of mar-a-lago. but could they be looking elsewhere to trump tower, or elsewhere? we just don't know the answers to those questions yet.

but we do know that the justice department has told mr. trump's lawyers that they believe there is more material that he has not yet returned. >> all right. moving on now to the next january 6th hearing, what more can you tell us about what we might see thursday in terms of new evidence, and how much of ginni thomas's testimony the panel might actually get into? >> i am told that we should expect some surprises. that they had some significant information that they are keeping very close to the vest. i am not sure what that is. i would love to know. i would put it in the newspaper immediately. but in regards to ginni thomas, they very well could use some of the quotes that she gave them during her deposition with the committee. no, recall that they viewed ginni thomas of more of a witness then as a target or a suspect. and they are very interested in her conversation specifically with john eastman, who they

believe was the architect of the plan to overturn the election in 2020. they came out with a legal framework and then tried to pressure mike pence to go along with it, and ultimately [inaudible] of donald trump. so i think if we do see any of ginni thomas's testimony used, it will probably be with respect to the nexus into john eastman that conservative lawyer, and the types of things he was up to with donald trump. >> well, you write that while some democrats on the panel have said this would likely be the committee's last hearing, liz cheney has pledged additional hearings. have you learned anything more about what we will see after thursday? >> right, there is a bit of a conflicting statement there from committee members, several of the democrats have talked to the committee, they say that this will likely be their last hearing. and i suspect it will be the last hearing, certainly before the midterm elections. but vice chair cheney who is very involved in the details of these hearings, and very

involved in the direction of the committee has said that there would be at least more than one additional hearing. now, that could be a hearing on their final recommendations, right? their final findings, their final conclusions, and what they think, what the legislation that needs to be passed before this congress and to try to shore up democracy and ensure that there is never again another january 6th. but i do think that they are all keeping the door open, that as the interview more people, as they bring in more documents, if they do find more explosive revelations that they can quickly call a hearing without saying they have closed the door on this investigation. >> so i have asked some of the committee members on this network when we can get that final report, whether it can be before the midterms, and they always kind of say that that is not our goal. the midterms is not the line in the sand that we try to set to get this report out. but it is only a month away. do you think we could see their

final report, or recommendations in the next month? >> i would be surprised if they have not finished before the midterms, given how long the report is likely to be. there is more than 1000 interviews, more than 1000 transcripts to go through. there is just extensive writing that is going around on the various teams inside the committee to try to get this report ready. now, chairman thompson said he wanted to have the preliminary report out before the midterms. that could be some sort of document, you know, a summary of findings. but i do not expect to see the full report before the midterms. i think that we are likely to see that more towards the end of the year. >> okay, luke broadwater, thanks. coming up, tomorrow, january 6th committee member joe lofgren will give a preview of the hearing. and a programming note, make sure to join msnbc for special coverage of the hearing led by

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