tv Model America MSNBC October 9, 2022 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
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: emotions are running high in the normally quiet suburban town of teaneck, new jersey, tonight after a teenager was shot to death by police. man: they killed that boy in cold-blooded murder. it don't make no sense. (music) reporter: we expect to go live into that courtroom for the trial of new jersey versus police officer gary spath. mike: it is extremely rare for police officers to be put on trial. this was a police officer who claimed he was doing his duty. and in the course of doing his duty,
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he was indicted for a criminal offense, manslaughter. reporter: witnesses say the teen had his hands in the air in a gesture of surrender at the time of the shooting. thelma: it's proven evidence. he surrendered. that's murder. he just shot him when he gave up. paul: listen, this was a tragedy, but phillip was a kid who had a gun who shouldn't've had a gun. gervonn: it just didn't fit the narrative of a young boy that grew up in this community. i mean, this was teaneck. walter: to me, the facts in the case are so obvious, at least in this instance. we're going to get justice (music) reporter: we reported this morning defense lawyer robert galantucci
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surprised everyone in the courtroom, especially the prosecution team, by calling the defendant himself to the stand. let's go to the courtroom now live, where gary spath is testifying in his own behalf. mike: we didn't know that gary spath would testify as the trial began. there was some concern on the part of spath's defense attorney robert galantucci, that spath may not be able to handle testifying. he had left the police department. his career was in tatters. he was also facing the possibility that he could be convicted. male: do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god? patuto: some of the lawyers saying, "oh, you never put the defendant on because he could be cross-examined." well, you know, i never subscribe to that, except in rare cases. the jury wants to hear from a police officer. they have to hear from a police officer because if it's left out, you're not going to get his side of the story.
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spath: i got out and i pulled my weapon. spath: i pulled my weapon because we just received the gun call and when you get a gun call, you i reasonably believed the potential existed that i could get shot. thelma: when he walked on the stand, you know, i'm telling you, i was saying he's nothing but the devil.
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that's what i said to myself. he is going to come up and he is going to say he was afraid of his life. he tried to save his life and not going to the jail or whatever. so i knew he going to try to defend himself. spath: and just spun. like this. franklin: that was the story that they were propagating, that the officer felt a threat to his life and physical well-being. the case by the prosecution was that there was wanton and reckless disregard for human life. glenn: he went into his pockets and you started shooting. spath: i was performing my job. i got a gun call. i ran after the suspect. he came at me with his hand in the pocket and he was going to shoot me. that's the truth.
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mike: i believe that spath came to believe in a reality that simply doesn't add up to the forensics. if you look at this objectively, it was impossible for phillip to be shot in the back and be turning to shoot gary spath. patuto: certainly forensics can be helpful, but in my mind, my humble opinion is that they should never be conclusive. spath: this guy was going to shoot me. i had no choice but to shoot at him to save my own life. forgive me, sir. this is what i had to do. thelma: everybody knew my son that he wasn't that kind of a young man. i'll believe that till the day i die. that he was trying to make it home. reporter: there is now going to be a discussion between the lawyers and the judge about a legal matter. reporter: it might have to do with whether or not, mr. goldberg will be permitted to cross-examine gary spath about the prior occasions in which he fired his weapon.
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mike: one of the most important elements of gary spath's career was never really introduced in the trial, and that was the fact that he had a very questionable record of using his gun. each of those shootings raised questions about his fitness to be an officer and whether, in fact, he was making the right decisions. reporter: in october 1985, he shot in the air at an escaping robbery suspect against police guidelines. in december of 1986, he shot at a burglary suspect who jumped out a window. in january of 89, he shot at a suspect on drugs while the suspect's five year old child was in the car. mike: his shooting a phillip pannell was his fourth shooting in five years. that is almost unheard of. loretta: gary spath was responsible for more than his share of unholstering his gun. there should have been a very large red flag. jackie: i did learn that there had been some problems when he used his gun and maybe should not have.
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but again, i felt that what happened on april 10th was not some trigger happy police officer running around looking for a black person to harass or even worse. i felt that it was a tragic mistake. luis: well, what we learned at the academy was the only time you draw your weapon and shoot it, is to prevent the imminent threat of death or bodily harm to yourself or someone else. william: police officers could go their entire careers and never shoot their gun at all. when you have 16 firearm discharges by officers in the whole county, then you have one officer who has three of them. that's probably one of the failings that something like that wasn't examined and evaluated, not to punish
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the officer, but to protect him, to save his life, save his career. mike: the fact that you can't introduce evidence of previous shootings into the trial was, of course, problematic for the prosecution. but the american court system is built around very, very specific rules of evidence. was it infuriating to people? yes, it was infuriating to people, particularly people who were hoping for a conviction. reporter: live now at the courthouse in hackensack, where the closing arguments are underway. ben: the defense said gary spath's life was in danger. the prosecution said
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phillip pannell's life was taken recklessly. galantucci: he had his hand in his pocket. he was coming around and he was going to shoot me. glenn: all that matters is those hands were in the air. they weren't near a pocket. they weren't near a gun. they were up. ben: now, tomorrow, the 12 jurors will deliberate the case. judge: a person is guilty of reckless manslaughter if a person recklessly causes the death of another human being. thelma: i looked at the judge, then i looked and it was all white jury. i just prayed and hoped to get justice for my son. (music) i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
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most of the time i was sitting in the courtroom, wait till they come back. i was praying. i was praying. my sister was sitting beside me and said they were going to be all right. and i was shaking. but, she said it's in god's hands, it's in god's hands. i said- i called my sister and i said, dale, no. i could feel that this man is going to get off. i can feel it. but thelma, don't think like that, she said. reporter: we're watching now, as the judge has indicated to the participants, the jury has in fact reached a verdict. jackie: emotions were so high. people were so divided. i was fearful how people in the community would react to the verdict. judge: ladies and gentlemen, this has been a very emotional, heart rendering, terrible matter for everybody concerned. but i'm asking you to please try to control your emotions. i'm going to bring the jury out at this time.
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will the defendant, mr. spath, please stand. face the jury. would you announce the verdict, please? foreman: we the jury, find the defendant not guilty. (shouting and cheering) judge: quiet. dale: how? judge: quiet! dale: my sister have suffered for two years. my sister has suffered for two years. thelma: no! no! (cries) no! dale: my 16 year old nephew in his grave. dead! not guilty? no- get my sister out of this- this was all a set up. it's all been a set up, they are. we expected this anyway. thelma: (crying) no! no! dale: it's all a set up. -the cops and everybody. it's all been a set up. (inaudible) we expected this. thelma: (cries) no! no- dale: all of them was working together in this. all of em just was working together.
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thelma: why, lord, why? dale: let's go. that's all right. they'll be taken care of. thelma: why lord, jesus, why? dale: 16 year old boy, in his grave, dead. shot in the back. gonna let this man walk. how? there's no justice in this world. none! thelma: (crying) dale: none! thelma: (crying) why? thelma: oh, boy. peter: after thelma pannell was led out of the courtroom by her friend, she had all but collapsed in the hallway. the press was not allowed anywhere near the courtroom for about good 5 minutes, because thelma pannell was outside of that courtroom in a hallway, sobbing, just terrible, deep sobs. natacha: my mother was really hysterical and she broke down and she was saying, why, why? why, lord? bernie: i remember phil's mom's face
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and the hurt that she was dealing with in that moment and the cheers that the police officers let out. to this day, it's tough because you're celebrating the release of your fellow police officer. but the reason for the verdict is my child's death, and you cheering that. so, there was just no empathy there. walter: hearing the anguish of phillip's mother, put into proper context the reality of black life in america. that you can kill a black person. a jury can hear the evidence and let the person walk. and the family has to deal with it. and so what? batron: the system didn't work. the system's broke. you know the system's not for a black man. i just couldn't understand. like, if a man or a person getting shot in the back and you don't see no wrong with that, you know. i don't understand that. natacha: as we were leaving, it was such a crazy feeling and so bizarre.
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we had to get out of there. our chests were tight. like, you know, we couldn't breathe. reporter: to the family and friends of phillip pannell, this verdict, according to them, shows that a black person cannot get justice in america. they criticized the fact that in a racially sensitive case like this one, there never should have been an all white jury hearing the evidence. reporter2: spath said he thought his life was being threatened. the jury sided with the police officer. male: to have a jury return a verdict in 9 hours. it''s almost as though the jury said, let's hurry up and do this thing and so we can get home for dinner. steve: the truth will set you free, says the scriptures.
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and the truth here set gary spath free for life. and as a result, the healing began. spath: we are a strong family in god and we pray for the pannells. and that god can lift bitterness and that he can help these people along. paul: regardless of what the verdict was, we weren't bringing back a lost life and we weren't going to change the life of gary spath. my sense of relief was that it was over and we could move on. del tufo: the jury has spoken and now it's a time for people to come together, and put this behind them and move ahead. mike: after the verdict, i had a sense that there was a lot left to be said here. the story was very much left unsettled. (music) technically when enamel is gone, you cannot get it back. but there are ways you can repair it. i'm excited about pronamel repair
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a jury said he's not guilty. but obviously, even today, there are many people that don't see it that way. gervonn: after the trial, people were just so angry, so distraught, just so hurt. it just seemed like it just cracked open this great utopia. and it was devastating. so i think we buried that. it was so painful. (music) thelma: after the trial, i couldn't take it no more, so i just left. and now i try to avoid that town because phillip loved teaneck. he'd know every place and he'd know every street, everything in teaneck. he loved teaneck, new jersey. he loved it. he died in a town that he loved. (music) natacha: after the trial, my whole childhood was gone. i felt stigmatized. when people saw me, it's like they would get sad because i would automatically put them in mind.
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my brother. my years of high school was, like, really, really traumatic. i was being bullied. i was being misunderstood. and i became enraged. i started to hate police officers. i started even hate white people. it was, it was a really ugly time in my life. my mother was so distraught. and my father, he took it really, really rough. it wasn't actually until like, years later, my family was able to start healing. my mom and i, we've grown much, much closer. she remarried now and her current husband, my step pops, he's a good guy. my father had a landscaping business, and despite that fact that he had an alcohol problem overall, he was a good father. you know, nobody's perfect. my father passed away in 2016. on my father's deathbed, his wish was for me to just go on
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with my life and just to be happy. i just became passionate about changing the world. i'm going to change the world like a crusader, so to speak. i've spent my whole life from 13 until 45 dedicating time towards preventing this from happening to any other family. but there were so many cases after my brother. reporter: ten years ago today, 17 year old trayvon martin was gunned down by george zimmerman. trayvon's killing launched a movement, but the harming of black bodies continued. freddie gray. eric garner. michael brown. breonna taylor. philando castile, george floyd and ahmaud arbery. reporter: tonight, cries of black lives matter and hands up, don't shoot, echoing from coast to coast. the largest day of demonstrations for george floyd yet. protestors: (chanting) black lives matter! black lives matter! black lives matter! al: i think that the phillip pannell case
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was a ground zero for what later became the black lives matter movement because many of them, including some that started the slogans, said they watched growing up cases of police abuse and movements and teaneck was a classic part of that. natacha: 30 years ago, 1990, teaneck, new jersey. i marched down cedar lane and here it is, 2020, 30 years later, and i'm finding myself march the same roads for the same exact thing. thelma: my son, he got shot in that backyard over there with his hands in the air. we endured this pain for 30 years. now we're back here again. christine: i was in eighth grade when phillip pannell was murdered, and a lot of my friends knew phillip pannell. so i try every year to teach the students about phillip pannell,
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because too often they come to school and they don't know his story. so i'm always trying to make sure that his name is remembered and we never forget what happened. protestor: (shouting) 30 years. not again. natacha: i've been fighting for 31 years because even now, today, teaneck is trying to sweep it under the rug. jim: hall meeting, all right. that is the black lives matter mural, council member rice. gervonn: i know that we did discuss it at our last council meeting and just wanted to make sure that it was brought up again. but i just wanted to make sure that the community was brought up to date and up to speed. jim: sure, things have changed. gervonn: after george floyd happened, there was a community outcry for a black lives matter mural in teaneck. there were students that started with this, young black students, young white students. all these petitions came in week after week, placing a demand.
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natacha: we presented a design to them and it had my brother's name in the middle of one of the letters, and they was like, oh no, we're opposed of this because it has full pannell's name on it. when we asked them why, and they said that there are people to this day who are on the opposing side that believes that, you know, spath was justified. jim: one of the things that we were concerned about was an emphasis on names because we wanted something that we felt would bring together the township. elie: i think that there are a lot of people in this community that still feel the divisions, and i did not want this to be a divisive statement. i wanted this to be a uniting statement. so i'm opposed to any of the names. gervonn: they didn't want the names. they didn't want phillip pannell's name on there, as if such a history would put a tarnish on teaneck's image. and then somebody just jumped up and said, well, let's rename a street after it. michael: one thing we can do to take another
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step in the right direction is possibly rename a prominent street called black lives matter way. gervonn: but that's not what people asked for. so that was like an appeasement. has there been- have there been 3000 members that wrote a petition that requested that? jim: councilwoman rice, i don't think you're understanding. i did not say... why are you smiling? you think you made a point? we can do other things. gervonn: i kind of remember stepping back at that point. for us, it was just so personal. javalda: i'm speaking on behalf of the black lives matter street mural committee. we have over 3000 petitions and beyond 3000 signatures on the petition. but even beyond that, we get phone calls, we talk to people in the community and they're like, you got to be careful because they're trying to water down the street mural. you are showing that we cannot trust our elected officials. this is a lesson in civics 101 for these young people.
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we don't have to say a word. you're doing it. you're going back on the things that we talk about in these meetings. jim: i still want something on behalf of the council, i would ask you to propose other things, too. gervonn: it was such an interesting phenomena about not wanting to address something so painful. but the only way you can really heal is to be able to acknowledge it. acknowledge that it's part of our history. good, bad or indifferent, it's part of teaneck's history. and to be able to continue to heal from that. jim: at this point, i'm going to put a little moratorium on discussing this mural. natacha: that angered me, you know, and i was like, my brother's been dead for 30 years and he can't harm anyone. he was a 16 year old kid that was killed in teaneck's backyard. and you still don't want to acknowledge that this happened to him. (music)
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thwilliam: what happened inn, teaneck, it's tragedy. you know, you see that you have two families devastated. i was so saddened for the pannells that they lost a child and at the same time, i was sad for gary spath, who his life is devastated. gary spath left the courtroom a free man, but pannell's death took its toll. he retired shortly after the acquittal on a stress related disability. patuto: he had to leave the police department. he had to lead north jersey. his family was traumatized and... forget the case. his actions had killed a young man and that traumatized him, too. reporter: five years after the shooting, it remained very much on his mind. spath: every day. every day.
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usually it's the first thing that i realize when i wake up and sometimes i still have sleepless nights about it. luis: it bothers him to this day. even though he was exonerated. but at that time, we didn't spend too much time. we just, you know, hey, how are you? is everything? you know. and i'm... i'm sorry we didn't talk, you know, maybe we should have. hopefully he's okay. spath: my name is gary spath, and i'm one of you. i was a uniformed officer working for the teaneck, new jersey police department. i was a white cop who shot a black 16 year old. mike: in 2015, spath was asked to deliver
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a speech in atlantic city to a police union meeting. spath had not spoken at this length publicly since his trial. he'd largely gone into, i wouldn't say hiding, but he had largely become a silent figure. it was a shocking speech, in my opinion. spath: our functioning, law abiding society and the thin blue line are under siege. we're under vicious, unfair, unlawful and unconstitutional attacks from criminal elements, the media and agitators and some activist politicians. mike: gary spath presented himself as a victim. he felt he had been mistreated by the legal system and the media. spath: the media had completely sensationalized the shooting and pretty much judged me to be guilty from the start, especially mike kelly at the bergen record, turned the armed- turned the armed suspect into an innocent choirboy
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who was shot in the back while playing an innocent game of basketball in a schoolyard. i was no longer the good guy, protecting and serving a community and bergen record made sure of that. mike: spath was not only just over the top, but he was downright inaccurate. he said things that were simply not true. never once have they ever referred to phil pannell as being an armed suspect. those words never came out of their mouths. it was never written. this would be about politics and race, not about a cop doing his job chasing an armed felon. mike: i was surprised by the anger that was directed at my news organization and, in particular, me. this comes from a guy who hasn't even bothered to read what i wrote. he's told me that. spath: i hope and pray that none of you ever have to be faced with a situation where you're forced to fire your weapon and take a life. none of us asked for it.
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none of us want that. but the every day possibility is there. it'll never go away. my shooting will never go away. it's with me every day of my life. natacha: okay, listen. i feel like he didn't have to do what he did, and i'll always feel that way. i can never wrap my mind around the fact that someone fears for their lives, chasing after someone and shooting at someone that has never shot at them, has never threatened them physically, you know. i try to understand why it happened, but i don't understand why it happened. i forgave him a long time ago. not for his sake. i forgave him for my sake because i could no longer harbor that that hate. and the fact that clint wouldn't want me to hate him. you know, he he wouldn't have wanted me to hate him.
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william: i think that a lot has been learned in teaneck. yes, some time after the spath incident, the department started community policing. reporter: in 1994, the department decided there needed to be a radical change and turned to community policing, directly involving the community in the fight against crime. officer: but if we can we give them an active part in solving the problems, whether it's a block watch or citizens watch or they come ride with us sometimes on calls. so it's just really giving them a say in how the police department functions. reporter: and there have been other changes. to help improve minority relations, the number of minority officers on the force has more than doubled since 1990. tiernan: after the incident, we realized, like police departments are still realizing, there was a lack of diversity on the police departments. so we were able to add more diversity to the community policing officers. dean: we needed to bring the trust back with the community.
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and throughout these years, we've done it. there has not been a shot fired by a police officer here in teaneck in the last 32 years. i think they're using more restraint when they deal with these sort of situations. william: the community continues to evolve. the police evolve and you have to evolve together. walter: the community policing experiment was a valiant effort, but it doesn't get to the core of the problem. the problem is the culture of policing. the fact that police operate like a clique and will do everything possible to be held irresp... not responsible for their actions. the question becomes when will civilians hold them accountable? natacha: maybe the police have learned a lot from my brother's death, but has teaneck? they still won't honor my brother. they just said, "no, we're not going to have phillip pannell's name on, on the mural. and why? if you want this mural and you're going
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elie: yes. hello. please state your name for the record. natacha: natacha pannell. thelma: thelma pannell dantzler. natacha: we don't know, we know what the hold up is or what the delay is but we have been meeting on a number of occasions and we haven't had a deadline set yet from the council on even you all making a decision on the blm mural. gervonn: seven months. it took seven months of this nucleus of students that were then when community members started saying, well, why is this such a challenge? why is this such an issue? elie: i don't want to, um, you know, make anyone on this call
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think that we're trying to brush it under the rug. but there's the delay is trying to work with the elected officials. everybody here has a different concern. and the issue is how do we get consensus? natacha: five other communities have put up blm murals. we're asking that you give us a deadline. thelma: this is still upsetting me after 30 years ago. and it shouldn't be that i have to go through this pain again, over and over again. elie: you know, ms. pannell, i feel your pain. actually, i don't feel your pain. i don't know how it'd be to lose a child. and, and, and i can only imagine the horror you've lived through over the last, uh, what is it? 30 years now. i certainly, you know, certainly don't understand how it is to lose a sibling either as i speak to your daughter as well. but i will not support a mural that has phillip pannell's name on it anywhere. if you're asking me for my vote,
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you know, because i won't vote for something that i don't fully support. and there's certain aspects that right now i can't support. but i do support the concept. during the rioting back in 1990 as a 15 year old, i was working on the ambulance corps. i transported a photographer who had his camera smacked over his head to the hospital. i do remember going into the e.r., i remember seeing three or four teaneck police officers holding a different arm or a packet somewhere else where they were injured. i couldn't believe that this was my town and i couldn't believe the damage that was done. i think the town overcame as best as it could, this tumultuous period, and therefore my objective was to try to get the mural and focus on what will bring us together as a community and not what will continue to divide us. (music)
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javalda: there's a schedule. as people come, they're going to get in their group and whoever's taken area a, they come, they get their group, they do their letter. we have it all planned out what letter is going when. male: thank you (music) natacha: with the council saying we don't want phillip pannell's name on there, i wasn't going to go to the blm mural painting, but the young people, they motivated me to go. my mom convinced me to go. and then being that i said to the committee that i support them. i went because of that. are you katz? this is elie katz. teaneck city council, deputy mayor katz. do you mind holding the poster of my brother? natacha: okay. thelma: you don't wanna hold it? natacha: no, that's okay, ma. male: one.
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we got it? natacha: that's the mayor and the deputy mayor. he refused to hold my brother's picture. mom, what's wrong? you're crying? how dare him to make you cry, ma? thelma: well, he had the nerve to say that? natacha: he doesn't care. (music) female: it really amazes me that it took months of hard work, negotiation and compromise to get the words black lives matter painted in the town of teaneck, new jersey. the town that's made up of almost 30% black people. the town that was the first to voluntarily integrate schools in this country, the same town that mourns and never forgets the life of phillip pannell, back in 1990. phillip pannell's name was denied approval to be painted on this mural, but his life matters. while his name is not physically on here, let's have this mural be a representation
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in our hearts and minds of his legacy and that every single black brother and sister whose lives have been stolen had a legacy, too. (music) natacha: i was angry because all these years later, teaneck has still never acknowledged my brother. but then some of the young people that were on that blm mural committee, along with the superintendent and the board of education, said, "no, you know, we're going to do a second mural and we're going to make sure that phillip pannell's name is on there. and we're also going to acknowledge other names and put them all on there. i was like, okay, finally, teaneck is going to do something in honor of my brother. (music) peaceful state. full plate. wait, are you my blind date? dancing crew. trip for two. nail the final interview. buy or lease? masterpiece.
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pay as little as zero dollars jackie: you know, when you look back, was teaneck ever really the model that the army decided that it was after the war? it's a responsibility of the people who live in the community to make sure that we're going to stay worthy of being called the model community. loretta: this myth that we were a model town usa, played a part in us not recognizing what was going on in our community over the years. the problems, the schisms, the misunderstandings that were going on, just beneath the surface. william: i always said to people that teaneck's greatest strength is its diversity and its greatest weakness is its diversity. when you live in a community that's homogenous, it's easy
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for everybody to get on the same page real fast. when you live in a community like teaneck, it's a lot harder, takes a lot more work. mike: you know, a lot of people talk about whether or not teaneck is a model community. and i think it is a model community. however, it's really a mirror of the nation, just as this nation is not perfect. we're continuing to struggle with all kinds of issues, particularly of issues of race. i think teaneck really represents that national mirror as opposed to being a model. walter: phillip's death, i think, caused people to finally realize that it didn't matter where you went in america. it was in the suburbs. it was in the place that america had deemed to be safe spaces. so, for me, it's part and parcel why this story is so important, because it was teaneck in 1990.
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it could be your community tomorrow. (music) natacha: some people in teaneck, i believe, are on the right side of history. when the teaneck board of education said, we're going to have a mural, i was like, okay, finally, after all these years, teaneck, new jersey is going to honor phillip pannell. (music) his name is not going to be in a parking lot on a mural. it's going to be at teaneck high school, the high school that he loved, the high school that he should have been able to graduate from. today is a positive day. thelma: yes, it is. natacha: today is a good day. because today teaneck, new jersey, has acknowledged that phillip pannell's life mattered. thelma: life mattered. (clapping)
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natacha: i was thinking like, i'm just happy that this is finally happening and that i can go on with my life and move on to the next step. i don't want to live with that hate. i want to live with the memories and the good times that clint and i shared (music) the mural at teaneck high school, it did give my mother and i a great deal of peace and relief. but there was one more way that we wanted to honor my brother. and that was the tree of healing. (music) in early 91, there was a tree planted in triumph park, down the street from intervale road where he was killed, and someone dug the tree up. and then they not only dug it up, they burned the shrub. so my mom and i, we wanted to be able to laugh and smile again.
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so the only way we figured that we could do that is to replant the tree. god bless you, clint, and the community of teaneck whether they want to remember you or not, they're going to remember you. (music) male: we are here to honor the life, humanity, love of family, friends, and the connection young phillip had on all of us. phillip's birthday is today, and he's 47 years old. batron: i think about phil every day. you know, especially like around his birthdays. you know, there's not really a day that i don't. steven: i'm sad that i never got to see him as an adult because i just know that he would have been like, a great dad. like, i know that. i know that he would like, he would have been everything to his kids. like, his sister, he was like everything to her.
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natacha: to see how much support that's actually out here today in honor of my brother's life is amazing to me. thelma: i just want to thank the town of teaneck for the tree of healing for my son in his name. it's been a long, long time coming. a long time coming. now we're going to let these balloons go in phillip pannell's name. rest in heaven, phillip, let it go. male: happy birthday, phillip. this is for you. (music) much love, phillip pannell. (clapping) natacha: yeah. happy birthday, clint. hallelujah. yeah. thelma: i can't explain it. it's something that lifts from my heart. it's just like this, i can get some sleep tonight. thank you, jesus. i can go to sleep. i can go to sleep. just from planting a tree, we got to go through this hell. just for doing a tree. a tree!
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he was worth more than that. more than that. but i know i could sleep tonight. it is not over with yet. it's not over with. but i want those young peoples never to give up. don't give up. don't let them bring you down. don't cut the spirit. they have to keep fighting. don't give up. (music) (music) the forces with us, an american
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