much. and that wrapping up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on twitter and instagram on jdbalart. also check out rachel maddow's new podcast. the first two episodes are available right now wherever you get your podcasts. thank you for the privilege of your time. lindsey reiser picks up with more news right now. good morning. i'm lindsey reiser live from new york. we're following breaking news in ukraine where smoke is rising over kyiv. the capital facing the most intense bombings since the start of the war, along with other key cities across the country. the russian military unleashing an intense wave of strikes targeting key infrastructure and energy facilities. firing 84 cruise missiles

according to ukrainian armed forces. civilians have also been targeted. this video showing the terrifying a blast rocks a pedestrian bridge in kyiv moments before a person could be seen walking across it. that person manages to turn back and runway from the destruction. that strike reminiscent of this blast saturday on a crucial bridge connecting russian-controlled crimea and the country's mainland. a blow to russia suffering humiliating defeats on the battlefield. vladimir putin says that today's wave of violence is revenge for that blast. he blames ukraine, even though kyiv has not taken responsibility for it. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy sharing these devastating images from the aftermath of today's deadly campaign and founding an urgent alarm saying, quote, they are trying to destroy us and wipe us off the face of the earth. all the while ukrainian

civilians are, again, forced underground into kyiv subway system, but they're managing to come together in an emotional show of patriotism singing the country's national anthem led by an opera singer. ♪♪ starting us off this morning, nbc's cal perry, live in kyiv, and michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia and an international affairs analyst. thanks for being with us. what are you seeing or hearing? what's going on right now? >> well, this is a completely quiet city at the moment. the streets are deserted.

this is the first time we've seen kyiv like this in four or five months. this is a city that was making our way back. and then this morning at the peak of rush hour, we heard a series of explosions. you couldn't mistake them for anything else. they rattled the windows where we are, we knew the concussions were downtown and that was followed by two more waves alone, just in the capital. you would these separate barrages of rocket fire. eight people dead in the capital. you can expect numbers to rise. there are attacks across the country in the eastern part of the country where our colleague is with her crew. they witnessed at least five separate explosions this morning in the central city, at least five or dead, another dozen wounded there. in lviv, a city that has remained quiet throughout this war, seeing a barrage of rockets hitting, the power is out in that city. 84 separate rockets fired from russian positions into ukraine

as well as another 24 drones. about half of which we understand both the rockets and the drones were shot out of the sky by that defense system that ukraine has in place. but as i said, the situation in the capitol right now is very tense. you have people down in the subway sheltering. the mayor saying there will be rolling blackouts in the city to keep the grid from crashing a number of the targets seem to be logistical targets, and the other targets were either indiscriminate fire or the targeting of residential areas. one building here in the capital was hit. rescue services saying it's possible people are still trapped in the rubble. here in the capital, people are bracing for the possibility of more attacks. we're still under an air raid alert here, lindsey. >> obviously some of the images that we're showing, they're graphic, obviously showing some of the aftermath. this isn't your first stint in ukraine. you've been on the ground for

quite some time now as well. does this feel similar to the start of the war, or does this also -- this moment feel different to you? >> well, look, i was in lviv at the start of the war. my colleague was standing on this balcony. i wasn't here for it, but i think it's probably similar to what she went through. these were considerable air strikes and, again, they came in waves. i have not had air strikes in kyiv, at least, like this since the beginning of the war. there hasn't been this level, this volume of strikes. it was back in april when the russians tried to move on kyiv, february, i should say is when it started, and april is when the ukrainian forces were able to push them back. since then, we have not seen anything close to this, lindsey. >> thank you. you and your crew please stay safe. the russians are targeting key infrastructure, they're striking civilians, hitting cities like lviv. is what we're seeing a new level of atrocity and a sign of a new

military posture for putin in this war? >> it could be. if you remember, if you go back to the beginning of this war, we saw the same thing. these attacks here, they're more retaliatory attacks. this is nothing more but to wreak havoc across ukraine and put fear in the minds of the ukrainian people and so this is what retaliatory attacks will look like. what i will tell you is, the one thing that we have to be careful of doing these attacks here is whether or not putin can sustain us. i don't think he can sustain this, number one, and number two, if you notice, there were no military targets that were struck. so what he's doing really is nothing but destroying the country and destroying the ukrainian people. we still haven't met any of his military goals. in the great scheme of things, this is doing nothing for him.

>> ambassador, let's talk about that attack to the bridge linking crimea with the mainland on sunday. kyiv hasn't taken responsibility for it, but putin blames ukraine's special services. russia has been marred by military failures on the ground. do you think putin was looking for an excuse to escalate? >> absolutely. of course this is a response to that very successful attack on the bridge that connects russia to crimea. i think it's very important for everybody to hear. these are attacks on civilian targets. it's not infrastructure. electricity for civilians. those are not legitimate targets. these are terrorist attacks. putin is trying to terrorize the people of ukraine. you're showing footage of the main square in kyiv. look to the left and the right. what do you see? you say playground facilities

for children. the ukrainian army is attacking military targets to try to win a war against the russian armed forces. putin is attacking civilians to terrorize ukrainians. >> ambassador putin has been under fire in his country for weeks now between military losses and that unpopular military draft. do you think an act like this helps his image or does it actually further galvanize the resistance against him? >> for the screamers on tv, and they literally scream, i watch them, on russian television, state-controlled television, they're all going to cheer this. they've been talking about the necessity of doing this now for weeks. but we should not confuse that minority of screamers and radicals, extremists, with the population. i don't think anybody will look at this and look at playground facilities being attacked and feel proud of the russian military. in fact, i think it will lead to more distrust, more doubt, hundreds of thousands of

russians have already mobilized not to join the war, but to leave the country. i can't imagine that anybody watching this will be inspired to join the military. >> general, before we let both of you go, it was just last week that the main focus was this warning from president biden of nuclear war. we're seeing this brutal retaliation now. given the attacks that we're watching, where do you think the prediction from the president stands at this hour, general? >> again, we don't know what putin is going to do. i will tell you, his options are extremely limited. he's losing this war on the ground. the momentum continues in the favor of the ukrainians. the russians have not met any other strategic goals yet. so in his tool bag, it's very limited. he's got chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, or he can come

to the negotiation table. that's pretty much the limit of what he has left. and so at the end of the day, we don't know what he's going to do. but i will tell you, i know the pentagon as well as the administration, they're preparing for whatever may occur, whether it be chemical weapons or nuclear weapons. i know that we have options out there from a u.s. perspective and a nato perspective that we can use. >> ambassador, do you think that the most recent events this weekend make the possibility of putin looking for an off-ramp greater or worse? >> tragically, he's not looking for an off-ramp. he's made that very clear. he wants to secure the land that he -- on paper -- annexed and i don't see him looking to negotiate until he's accomplished that goal, and i don't see president zelenskyy allowing him to accomplish that goal. i don't see any off-ramps in the

immediate future. tragically, i think this war is going to go on for a long time. >> thank you, both. let's bring in keir simmons on the ground for us in moscow. keir, putin spoke this morning to his security council justifying the strikes, pinning the bridge attack on ukraine. what's the reaction been like in russia? >> reporter: well, putin's address was another long list of rhetoric and retribution, accusing kyiv of being -- specific targets by the ukrainians, just as the ukrainians call the russians terrorists, the russians calling the ukraine terrorists. i think one of the key indicators of president putin's mind set was his appointments to oversee the whole ukraine operation of a general who is

known to have been the commander on the ground in syria when it was threatened. he was jailed for killing prodemocracy protestors during the famous coup back here in russia. he's a man who's been a hard liner for a long time. the crucial point is that president putin is surrounded by hard-liners. even the former president and prime minister and longtime ally of president putin who shared burgers with president obama, he was putting out a message today on his account talking about -- welcoming these strikes, suggesting that there will be more and calling for regime change in kyiv. so i think there is a split screen here in russia. the russian people and the russian elite and the inner circle around president putin, that inner circle are urging him

on. the russian people are very nervous talking to them on the streets. they're anxious, worried and there are many who continue to support president putin, despite the fact they will say that they can see that russia is not having an easy time in ukraine. >> anxious, worried, is that different from the sense on the ground that you've gotten before? >> yeah, i think slowly the atmosphere has changed here. you don't want to exaggerate it. you can see behind me, the main street, a busy street here behind me, moscow is still moving, the shops are still open. it's ordinary life for many, many people. when you talk to people and say, what do you think about president putin, they want to change the subject. i don't want to talk about politics. it can be dangerous to talk about it, of course, perhaps they have opinions they don't want to share or perhaps they're resonant to get involved in

something that is difficult ground right now. listen, right through the weekend, russian television was showing pictures of that damaged bridge and the explosion. extraordinary. i've not seen coverage on russian television like that since february. so president putin is under pressure in a way he hasn't been during his 20 years of leadership. he still has a lot of support in the country and he has a lot of people around him who have been around him for a long time and are loyal. >> chief international correspondent keir simmons, thank you. still ahead, we are going to have new reaction from the white house to russia's wave of attacks overnight in ukraine. just 29 days from the midterms, in georgia, some big-name republicans are dropping into the state to help hershel walker as his family scandals intensify. we're on the ground there next. as republicans fight to win the senate and pivot to a new focus on crime, these comments from alabama senator tommy tuberville are getting a lot of

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suggested she terminate another pregnancy years later, but she refused. walker has denied the report that he paid for the 2009 abortion and nbc news has not confirmed that reporting. nbc's allie raffa is covering the walker campaign from atlanta and brendan buck served as top adviser to paul ryan and john boehner. we got senators hitting the trail tomorrow. were these visits planned or are they a last-minute scramble in light of the recent allegations? >> reporter: well, lindsey, we did hear from the nrsc shortly after this first wave of allegations surfaced against hershel walker and they said they were still supporting him. and now we're hearing from the walker campaign saying that he plans to rally with senator rick

scott as well as arkansas senator tom cotton tomorrow in carlton, georgia, and scott is saying, i'm on hershel's team. the nrsc is putting all hands on deck here. they're redirecting ad funding from another senate race in new hampshire, redirecting it here into georgia. that's because gop lawmakers are fully aware of how critical this race is to winning back control of this currently 50/50 senate. of course with vice president kamala harris having the power of that tie-breaking vote. but there seems to be a divide here among national republicans and state republicans. i had the opportunity to interview a republican lieutenant governor of georgia jeff duncan this weekend and he's told me he's extremely frustrated with this show of support from national republicans in his home state.

take a listen to some of what he told me. >> i think the quality of a candidate matters. maybe for the last couple of years i didn't matter as much as it has in the past. but it matters now. when this whole race started, it probably felt like all you needed to do was have celebrity status and a donald trump endorsement and you could walk into an elected office, and that's no longer the case. as time goes on it will be even less of a case. >> as you mentioned at the top there, the walker campaign tells us that a source close to the walker campaign, rather, tells us that there are more senate republicans that are eager to come out and stand by walker's side in these last critical weeks until the midterms. that will happen before these two face off in their first and so far only debate on friday, lindsey. >> what do you make of the comments from jeff duncan? do you get the gop is worried about some of their candidates like walker? >> they're very worried,

absolutely. it's not surprising that they're putting on a show of force, they're trying to put on a good face about this. this is the whole ball game. the senate will potentially be decided by this race. so rick scott, senator cotton, they're coming in because they have no other option. but you talk to republicans in the state, yeah, they're worried about this. but they've also known something like this was going to come. everybody has known that hershel walker is a flawed candidate. this is what happens when donald trump gets to pick his friends to be the candidate instead of having a primary process where you might work through some of the issues and figure out some of the skeletons that are in his closet. he's going to need all the help he can get. republicans are banking on the idea that georgia is still a bit conservative, that maybe the trump vote will come out and help him. remember, georgia has not been very kind to donald trump in the past. he lost his re-election in georgia, he's basically to blame for the fact that there are two democratic senators who are there now, he tried to take out the governor, the secretary of

state and continues to lose. hershel walker needs to make up some ground quick. it's a big hill to climb and people are going to start voting as early as next week. >> what do you make of the party strategy? it sounds like the louder voice within the gop is throwing their support behind him to get to that goal of control of the senate. >> it's the tribalism in politics right now. the idea of having someone in your party is much more important than any particular policy. and this is a party that is much more interested in fighting culture wars and so what hershel walker is trying to do is tell people that people from outside washington are trying to come in and get him and scare people. people who support him have enemies in washington or the media. it's not a surprising playbook. i don't know that it's particularly effective. georgia republicans have been struggling recently because they're losing educated women. people who look at donald trump and don't recognize that

republican party anymore. and until he can fix that -- i don't know that bringing up the issue of abortion, obviously he didn't do it, but the issue of abortion is front and center. that's a big problem. this election is about economy. if the popular governor brian kemp can carry him across the finish line, he may have a chance. we shouldn't write hershel walker off. but if the topic of conversation is still abortion, that's going to be tough for him to make up grounds in the suburbs where women and educated people have been running away from their republican party. >> the two are going to hit the debate stage friday night, walker and warnock. up until now, warnock has relatively steered clear of all of this, all of these allegations. do you expect that to change come friday night? >> i don't think it would be wise for warnock to get in the mud. hershel walker hasn't figured out how to get out of this situation. i imagine warnock will stay back. this could be a good moment for

hershel walker to change the subject, to get back to policy issues. the problem for him, as he's said himself, he's a little worried he's not going to be up to speed on the issues quite as much. this is going to be another challenge for hershel walker. it comes down to the basic question, is he fit for office? and there are a lot of people in georgia who are questioning his fitness. this will be the biggest test. can he talk about issues? can we move beyond the scandal and talk about something voters care about. some of the issues that they'll be discussing are top of mind and it's interesting to seeing if he's capable of having a conversation about them. >> thank you. former president trump taking his grievances to the campaign trail. >> they should give me back everything that they've taken from me because it's mine. >> is this red meat to the base or to mission. next how he's looming large in

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president donald trump and republican surrogates are out on the campaign trail in key battleground states. their focus, a fresh wave of attacks on crime and policing. this morning there's new backlash to comments made by first-term alabama senator tommy tuberville who spoke at a rally on saturday evening. he made these racially charged remarks. >> the democratic party, they have majority, they could stop this crime today. some people say, well, they're soft on crime, they're not soft on crime. they're pro crime. they want crime. they want crime because they want to take over what you got. they want to control what you have. they want reparation because they think the people that do the crime are owed that. [ bleep ]. they're not owed that. >> let's bring in vaughn hillyard who is in phoenix and jonathan allen. jonathan, what sort of reaction are you hearing in republican

circles to those remarks from senator tubberville? >> a lot of silence from most republicans. but don bacon, congressman from nebraska, a competitive district, was on "meet the press" this weekend and what he said is that he wouldn't say it in the same way that tommy tuberville bid and said that tubberville should be more polite. the other use of reparations refers to restoration for african americans. so the idea that tubberville is saying that, is that people who want reparations are criminals are the same group of people and we have congressman bacon saying that tubberville should be, quote, more polite.

>> you have new reporting that democrats are trying to preempt some of those attacks from the gop. but that it's not necessarily working. why is that? >> great question, lindsey. if you look at polling, the republicans have an advantage in terms of which party is more trusted to deal with crime. and that has been one of the wider advantages for republicans on issues. you can think of many issues democrats have an advantage on. whether it's abortion or climate change. but crime is one that the republicans have had an advantage on. many of them talking about issues that favor them. but some of them are fighting back and trying to preempt a little bit. we saw the house pass a series of police funding bills earlier this year, last month after a couple months of negotiations. and we're seeing ads in some of these competitive districts where democrats are touting their connections to law enforcement whether that's having voted for funding for police officers or in some cases appearing with or having

endorsements made by local sheriffs and police. >> vaughn, let's turn to you, going to donald trump. what can you tell us about the former president's events this weekend and what power does his endorsement have, for example, there in arizona where you are with voters. >> reporter: after that saturday night rally in nevada, he came down here to arizona and held a rally on sunday. and tommy tuberville wasn't with him here in arizona. but marjorie taylor greene was. when she was up on stage, she shared the great replacement theory. when you look at the people that donald trump has surrounded himself with, they're propagating conspiracy theories. kari lake, the attorney general candidate, as well as the secretary of state candidate. here in arizona each of those three individuals would be tasked with certifying the state's 2024 presidential results.

when you're looking at donald trump and why these candidates continue to stand by him, i mean, kari lake put it well herself, it's what got her here to this point. when you look at 2020, he lost here in the state of arizona and several other states. there's also data evidence that he turned out a great share of voters that had never come out to vote before, including here in the very rural parts of the state. those are the types of republican voters, those new republican voters, that these down-ballot republicans are going to rely on. then the question becomes, are some of these candidates like kari lake able to convince enough of those independents as well as those conservatives that jumped ship from donald trump over to a democrat like joe biden in the past, will they be able to win some of those folks over. joe biden won by just over 10,000 votes here. that is where you see donald trump trying to use his force and make the case if these republicans win, he could then go nationally to the rest of the republican party and say, look,

trumpism still works. talking about the substance about what he says when he's on stage. he used the event to air his grievances about the investigations into the documents at mar-a-lago. let's listen to a clip. >> we have a weaponized department of justice, fbi, and everything including, of course, the break-in of my home. >> does this work for his audience, or should he be sticking to stumping for the candidates that he's there to talk up? >> reporter: it works for the folks who are at these rallies. i mean, i asked groups of them, what they thought of the 2020 election and one after the other said they believe that donald trump had actually won, and it was a matter of the vote and the election being rigged here. if you believe that your candidate actually won, essentially their point is, why move away from him or his style of politics. now the challenge here is, are they able to convince enough of those republican voters that

jumped to democrats over the last two cycles and independents here, and we spent the weekend just down the road from here talking with voters and there was one guy who said, right, he said that he wished that donald trump and these down-ballot candidates who move away from election denialism. when you're looking at issues like the economy, inflation and the conservative stance on abortion, well, that leads you to voting for a republican candidate, especially one that doesn't have the name of donald trump next to them. and that is where you see in polling, these races are so tight, it's now a question of turnout and which side is able to galvanize their forces to come out en masse. >> thank you to both of you. more than 18,000 people still don't have power in florida in the aftermath of hurricane ian. some returning to their homes this weekend for the first time in two weeks. kathy park is live from fort myers, florida, with the latest. what are you hearing from people as they work to try and recover?

>> lindsey, as you can imagine, it's going to be a very long road to recovery, as you mentioned. it's been nearly two weeks since hurricane ian blew through here and for a lot of these folks in their cars right now, waiting to get onto fort myers beach, this will be the first time seeing the damage up close and we've seen a steady stream of traffic ever since 7:00 this morning. over the weekend, we had a chance to be on the ground and witness the devastation firsthand. and when you go over the bridge, it really was a gut punch because you see mangled cars and you see boats inland and you kind of -- you wonder how did that end up here and then you have homes and businesses completely flattened or washed away. we had a chance for a lot of the homers here and they're hopeful that they can rebuild. take a listen. >> we did do the research online, saw satellite. so we knew what to expect, so it wasn't a big shock. but it saddens us that we put so

much effort and labor into it to make it a fun, little happy beach home. but hopefully we'll rebuild. but it was a lot of work and it's completely gone. there's -- not partially. it's kind of closure, i guess. >> reporter: lindsey, this disaster has been very overwhelming and there are a lot of emotions, a lot of tears that we saw this weekend talking to folks and really as far as rebuilding, that's kind of something they're thinking more long term right now. the big task in front of them is debris removal. and we might see this large pile of trash, furniture behind me here. this is something that we're seeing at every turn throughout fort myers beach and just beyond. so much flood damage and here in florida, the big issue is, insurance claims now, a lot of folks that we spoke with say they don't have flood insurance. a lot of these folks will have

to be paying out of pocket and, of course, it's going to be tens of thousands of dollars when it comes to the cleanup and you had that into the rebuilding process as well. >> yeah, the storm long gone. but that is going to take some time. kathy park, thank you. next, russia's retaliation, reaction from the white house to russia's wave of attacks overnight in ukraine. plus, rising tensions in asia has north korea says this morning its recent missile launches were to simulate nuclear weapons intended to, quote, hit and wipe out enemies. we're in south korea next. we're. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping

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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," ukraine's president zelenskyy saying putin's forces are trying to wipe his country off the face of the earth after more than 80 new rocket strikes on targets including kyiv. putin is claiming the attacks are a retaliation in response to