knowyourvalue.com. this is a big day. we're going to hear from the president on the economy? >> the main event is just a few blocks away. january 6 hearing, 1:00. >> what are you looking for? >> to see if they are able to put a bow on what they've been doing this whole time. a sweeping conversation they've been having in the january 6th hearing. so are they able to do that in a way that's going to resonate with people in this country. >> that does it for us this morning, but we'll be back tomorrow with a full recap of the january 6th hearing, which takes place this afternoon. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern. we begin with breaking news in the jury sentencing trial of the parkland massacre shooter, the jury had decided whether he should receive the death penalty or life without parole for

killing 14 students and three staff members at marjorie stone douglas high school. kerry, what do we know at this hour? >> reporter: well, the families of the victims who have been enduring this really difficult penalty phase where all the information of every minute of every second of what happened have been notified by the court that the jury of 12 has now reached a decision on what the sentence will be and we expect that sentence will be delivered here at about 10:30. family members have been notified to be ready to go in the courtroom and sit where many of them have been sitting for the last four months. these are the pictures of the 17 victims. the students as well as the staff members who were massacred four years ago. it has been an extremely long journey for what they hope will be some sense of justice. the jury needs to be unanimous.

if they are unanimous, it is a decision for death, then it will be up to the death to go forward with that as the actual sentence, but if just one member of the 12-member jury were to decide it should be life, then the gunman here would get life in prison. we've had an opportunity to speak to the family members of those who have been sitting on pins and needles waiting for this. one was 15-year-old luke hoyer's mother, gina. this is what she had to say. >> i favor the death penalty because in this case, you know, there was no mercy. he viciously killed 17 people. at first, you know, i was leaning more towards life but when i heard how viciously and calculated he was, and just continued to shot people, i don't think he deserves any

mercy. >> hoping that the jury comes back with a death sentence. there are other family members who have said that they will allow the jury to make the decision and they will not express their thoughts on whether it should be life in prison or a death sentence, but many of them say that even if it is a death penalty and it's what they want, there really is no sense of justice. reminding everybody this happened four years ago. an extremely emotional moment about to unfold here for family members. jose? >> valentine day, february of 2018. kerry, so if the jury say comes back with a death sentence, the judge would have to ratify that? >> reporter: exactly. and typically in florida, the judge would follow what the jury recommends and it's notable that in florida, judges are elected

and so it would be highly unusual if the judge were to divert from what the jury recommends here. >> kerry sanders, we will of course stay with this very closely. as you said, the deliberations have concluded. the decision has been made by the jury and it should be announced about 30 after the hour. so about 27 minutes from now. kerry sanders, thank you. we'll of course stay on top of the story and bring you the decision as soon as we have it. now to our other top story of the day, the house january 6 committee is preparing for what is likely their final public hearing before election day. today's presentation is expected to feature new testimony and be a wide ranging view of former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. meanwhile, we're learning new details about the probe into classified documents into trump's home. trump and an employee told the fbi that the former president

ordered staff to move boxes of documents at mar-a-lago before federal agents searched the property. "the washington post" first reported this. in a social media post, trump said there's no crime related to the storage of documents. joining us now, ali, peter baker, the chief white house correspondent of "the new york times" and co-author of the divider, trump in the white house 2017 2021. also, chuck rosenberg. ali, what can we expect? >> you're likely to hear a lot of the same themes we heard them present over the summer. now what we're going to see is each member of the committee leading a section. maybe it's themes they've presented before but they're going to do it with new evidence going forward. presenting things that can speak to trump at the center of january 6th and try to establish his intent. his mindset.

what people around him were telling him in real time and in the days and weeks that proceeded january 6th and even in the case of some new documentary footage that we're going to see of roger stone. people talking about weeks before the election the idea that trump should just declare victory regardless of what the votes said. so that's going the speak to the trump aspect of this, which has been the focal point for the committee over the course of the last year and a half. but they have also been very serious in warning that this is not a threat that started and stopped on january 6th. they're going to try to present there are systemic changes that need to be made. partly the electoral contact, those reforms they're trying to push through congress, but eventually leading up to other recommendations in this final report they're going the issue. it's why we keep talking about this as the likely final investigative hearing. the presentation of new facts. when we expect they release the final or potentially interim

report that we're going to see the committee potentially do a hearing around this as well. but this is going to be one of the last indelible images of the country. >> and peter, over the summer, we saw the committee hold several blockbuster hearings. there are moments that i think everybody were surprised to learn about. how strong does today's presentation need to be? it's kind of their conclusion publicly. >> well, of course expectations have been raised so high because of those previous hearings that they have to do what they can to make sure the shock value hasn't worn off. we're a country that tends to lose interest in things over time. what they're trying to do, especially at a moment when the country is deciding its political future through these election, remind them of what's at stake. you're right. there's sort of a pressure on them to deliver with video or testimony that will actually if not change opinions, at least

reenforce the narrative that they have been telling over the summer and that's a big challenge for them at this point. especially after a break of several weeks like this. >> and you know, the midterms, just 26 days away. are these hearings likely to have an effect on november 8th? >> it's possible. i think one of the things the democrats are trying to do is focus the election campaign on issues of democracy as well as abortion rather than on inflation. we saw the new inflation report that republicans would rather talk about that and crime. so it's a debate about topics. which is going to motivate their base, their voters to come out in what might be a low turnout election. what democrats would like to do with this is say greater things are at stake than the price of food on the counter, but when you're talking to many voters, what's right in front of them is the thing that drives them into the voting booth. it's a really test to see how

the electorate will respond to these hearings and how the information has been provided. >> yeah, and chuck, the committee's expected to focus on the president's state of mind and his involvement in some of the events as they unfolded. from a prosecutor's perspective, why will this part of the perez ation be important for doj officials? >> it goes to trump's intent. there's been a lot of surmise, conjecture, a lot of talk about what he should have known, may have known, might have known. but none of that actually matters to a prosecutor. what matters to a prosecutor is what did he know and what can we prove he knew. so for instance, the story that has broken recently that after a grand jury subpoena was sent to trump's team and trump at mar-a-lago, that he ordered a staffer to move documents that did not belong to him out of the

basement of mar-a-lago out of the storage room and to his private residence. that's important. that's an example of intent. that's an example of what he knew and when he knew it. so what i'm looking for today in the hearing is similar. it's intent. as ali said, can the committee connect what happened that awful day of january 6th, the events leading up to it and the events after it, with what mr. trump understood, wanted, intended. that's the key. and whether or not the public is listening and whether or not the public is influenced by this. this is really important to prosecutors and fbi agents. >> and peter, talking about what chuck was just mentioning, turning to the mar-a-lago investigation, when you look at last night's report about moving boxes and the president telling people to move boxes, is this something that is going to further damage trump's legal

situation? >> when you learn people who have been working for you have been talking to the fbi and there's security footage, that has to be very disconcerting for the president. it's a very troubling situation if the president where his own staff basically is seen as witnesses against him potentially. so of course, i think it's a big deal. we don't know the full extent of it. we don't know exactly what has been said. but the reports that have come out so far you know certainly indicate you know, exposure to some sort of a possible obstruction charges that prosecutors have been talking about in the court papers that they have filed. so it's a worrisome development for the former president and we'll see where that takes it. >> if the justice department believes that trump has not returned all the classified documents they would like, why wouldn't they go or would they go back to mar-a-lago?

>> right. great question, jose. so if you're thinking about whether or not the department of justice would seek another search warrant, authority from federal judge to execute another search, they need two things. probably cause that a crime has been committed and probably cause they're going to find evidence of that crime in the place they look. so they obviously have probably cause for the initial search. the august search at mar-a-lago. but there are other places this stuff can be. it's pretty easy to move documents. it could be in manhattan. the trump tower. it could be in bedminister at trump's other golf club. it could be anywhere, frankly. so you don't just have to believe stuff the missing. you have to demonstrate to a federal judge that you have probably cause to know where it is. so you can ask for it. you can subpoena it and if you can develop probably cause, you can search for it. >> and meanwhile talking about

search but a totally kind of unrelated although all related, ali, this today's hearing, is today the final report or is there possible more hearings in the future? public ones? >> i think it's final with an asterisk, right? because this is a committee that has been very nimble as it gets information that it thinks is worth being transparent about and presenting to the public. but i think most of my sources and committee members have echoed this publicly that it's the last time we'll see the committee certainly before election day. as with all this stuff with mar-a-lago and the doj's investigations are happening, none of these things are happening in a vacuum. the committee is watching what's happening at doj and doj is watching what the committee has found in their investigations, but what's been clear in the intervening week, since the committee stopped doing hearings this summer and since the doj

ramped up their investigation with the search at mar-a-lago, is that this committee has tried to make clear their work is very separate. they're on their own investigation of january 6th. while it's all part and parcel to donald trump, for the committee's perspective, they're probably not doing to deeply into the documents at mar-a-lago. instead, what they have found out that continues to bolster the themes they've already presented. one of the other themes in addition to roger stone is what they've learned from the over million documents that have been turned over from the u.s. secret service. things like radio and microsoft teams and e-mail messages. they're lacking in those messages that they were not able to recover from specific agents around january 5th and 6th, but never the less, they should try and likely will, to bolster some of the claims about what secret service knew about january 6th,

giving another avenue of informing what the former president may have been told not just by people in his inner orbit but also within the secret service. >> thank you so much for being with us. and now to the breaking news on the economy that we were just mentioning. inflation shows no sign of slowing down. the last inflation report before the midterm elections take a look at some of these numbers. shows that prices rose 8.2% between september 2021 and september 2022. with prices rising .4% last month alone. but prices are up across the board. take a look at this. if you're listening to us on radio, look just some of these numbers. food and home rising 13%. from this time last year. fuel oil rose 58%. medical services increased 6.5%.

rent up 7.2%. electricity, 15.5%. take a look at the numbers on wall street right now. it's a pretty insignificant drop as of right now. 166 points. it's just opening so we're going to keep an eye on wall street. not happy with the news. means the federal reserve will probably continue its pattern of large interest rate hikes. there is, however, another silver lining to this. the social security administration says benefits will rise by 8.7% next year. the largest increase since 1981. that means recipients will see their checks go up by more than an average of more than $140 a month. the reason is because of the inflation rate. with us now to take a closer look at this is nbc news business and data reporter, brian chung. great seeing you. what are some of the key things you learned from this report? >> broadly speaking, inflation

is not easing up and americans are still feeling the pressures of these higher prices. now, across the board, this september jobs report showing that everything essentially was getting more expensive. you're looking at the year-over-year changes which is showing eye popping numbers for things like gasoline, food, the major types of expenditures that americans spend on. but take a look at food prices increasing. poultry, pork, vegetables getting more expensive. there are in reasons for that. one might be the droughts happening on the western side of this country, but again, you're looking at other types of things that americans are experiencing that aren't weather related. for example, rent. rent going up by .7 percentage points between just august and september. a lot of people trying to resign leases or trying to get a mortgage at these high rates facing much higher costs. keep in mind that's going to be a much stickier type of inflation because of the nature of it. you're getting signed into a year long lease or 30-year

mortgage which means a lot of these inflationary pressures could persist through the next few years. that 8.2% year-over-year pace of inflation is well above the sub 2% figures that we had seen prior to the pandemic. it means for the federal reserve, the nation's economic steward, a lot more work to do in terms of raising economic costs of borrowing by raising interest rates. that's something jay powell and the other policymakers in d.c. will be closely be keeping an eye on in the months to come. >> just a couple of questions on these numbers. so you know, healthcare, and that's always something that you know, that affects every single person in our country. that's been going up. the food at home. the numbers are just staggering as you just said. but then there's the issue of fuel oil. 58%. that's different from gasoline, right? and then natural gas, 33%. so the fuel oil and natural gas, that's heating? >> yeah.

all of that is related to heating and gasoline would be the types of energy you're pumping into your car just to get from point a to point b. this is a really interesting point you bring up because even though those numbers are still high, over the past few months we've seen in gasoline and fuel oil some price declines and that's because of the nature of the opec supply increases we had seen until the recent meeting where the announcement was that opec would be cutting production. so the implication is that even though those numbers are still high, the last few months have shown signs that maybe you could ease up, but with the direction of the supply cuts happening in the future, you wonder especially ahead of that winter season, if you are heating your home with oil, that could get more expensive. natural gas could get more expensive because of what's happening in russia and ukraine. the energy story is going to be very interesting to watch in the months to come. >> the reason the social security administration says benefits are going to rise by

8.7% next year. >> yeah, well they were waiting on the inflationary numbers here. this is a yearly adjustment that a lot of people at social security watch closely. the announcement from this morning was that they would be increasing, they would make that cost of living adjustment to the social security payments, about 8.7%. rep, these payments and that change is going to be effective in january and that is substantially higher than the 5.9% adjustment made last year. but again, because inflation is still above 8%, you are seeing some of that high inflation erode even the increase in the social security payments and of course remember those adjustments will also depend on your medicare part b. so there's a lot going on here, but broadly speaking, a number that's higher than the headline inflation likely welcome news. >> absolutely. thank you very much for being with us this morning. we're keeping an eye on the

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overnight, russia ramping up its ariel assault. more than 40 cities were hit, wiping out critical infrastructure with missiles and drones built by iran. take a look at this scene. officials say rescue teams pulled an 11-year-old boy out of the rubble of a destroyed

apartment building after being trapped for six hours. also overnight, the state department confirming the death of an american citizen who was fighting in ukraine's donbas region. the man identified as daniel partridge by his sister was a u.s. veteran from idaho. former infantry man who served in iraq according to the "washington post." joining us now, nbc news correspondent, cal perry, live in kyiv. cal, what's the mood there in the capital right now? these are already hours and hours and hours of attacks. >> reporter: right. look, i think the way people are viewing this as day four of this renewed campaign by russia to rain rockets down across the country. we have just seen a nationwide alert system lifted here. there was a fresh attack in just the last hour. a wave of rockets striking the western part of the country. at least three rockets aimed at lviv. two making it to the ground and hitting targets there. one shot out of the air. we don't know what the death toll there is. in mykolaiv, which is what

you're looking at, they've taken the worst of it overnight. the barrage, a group of rockets fired at that city. the rockets that were used according to ukrainian officials are actually anti aircraft weapons. so rockets intended to shoot airplanes out of the sky that do not have the able the i to hit a target on the ground or exact point. a sign maybe that putin is running out of these cruise missiles so now he's just using anything. at least four bodies recovered from that builds. it is a grim situation. >> and cal, the country's defensive system seems to be continuing to work. >> reporter: it's hugely impressive. they're getting more than 50% of the rockets and drones out of the sky. the alert system is seemingly more and more accurate. i've been coming here now for some time and it seems like since the war started, we hear the sirens and now more often

than not, we do have incoming. so i think the system is very accurate. not only in shooting down rockets but also in picking up rockets when incoming. the ukrainian president said to president biden they need an improved system and more ammunition and for the citizens here, that's the priority. >> thank you so very much. i want to bring in former commander of the u.s. army europe and senior adviser are human rights first, ben hodges. we listened to cal's report. these iranian drones. i wonder what impact they're having on the invasion. >> i love cal's report. he highlighted the fact that the ukrainians are among the most resilient, innovative and tech savvy people i have ever met in my life. i have a lot of experience working with ukrainian soldiers.

i'm not surprised that they have, they're adapting, figuring out how to stop these russian attacks. every one of these is terrible, every one is intended to kill innocent people, but as you and cal both pointed out, the russians cannot replace the cruise missiles they have been launching against apartment building because of sanctions. so this is not going to be endless and this is putin trying to string this thing out, hoping that we all get so concerned that we stop supporting ukraine. >> so the u.n. yesterday voted to condemn russia for its attempted annexation of ukrainian territory. listen to some what have what the u.s. ambassador had to say. >> our message is loud and clear. it does not matter if you as a nation or big or small, rich or poor, old or new. if you are a u.n. member state, your borders are your own and are protected by international

law. they cannot be redrawn by anyone else by force. >> general, is this something that the international community to help pressure happened? >> think how impressive it is that so many nations that have voted to condemn russia and to condemn these sham referendum, the illegal annexations. there's a lot of work that goes on, whether somebody abstains or votes for or against, to get those numbers, that is impressive and it shows what president putin has done, he has turned his country into a pariah state. nobody trusts anything that comes out of there and what the ambassador just talked about of course, respect for international law, international borders. this is in the interest of the

united states. >> i always appreciate your time. thank you for being with us. the jury in the sentencing trial of the parkland massacre shooter has decided whether he has received the death penalty or life without parole for killing 14 students and three staff members in 2018. the verdict is expected any second now. and joining us now once again, nbc news senior national correspondent, kerry sanders. also, david weinstein, former u.s. district attorney for florida and a former florida state prosecutor. kerry, these are live pictures we're seeing from the courtroom. >> reporter: we're looking at live pictures here of nicholas cruz who went to the campus on valentine's day saying he purposely chose valentine's day because he wanted to ruin it for everybody. he went on the campus. this carnage that left 14 students dead as well as three

staff members, unfolded in about a seven-minute period. more than 100 shots fired. it has been extremely difficult for family members, many who you see have gathered here in the courtroom that this 12-member jury will come back with a death sentence and they have had to listen to excruciating details but we should also remember that this 12-member jury has sat here since july looking at autopsy pictures, making a visit to the school building where the shooting happened, seeing the bloodstained walls and the blood dry and smeared on the floor. seeing the pock holes of gun shots. in many ways, going through some really horrific testimony to the point that some jury members have brought to tears as they have listened to what happened that day. the jury began deliberating yesterday. when they began deliberating, they asked for a little bit of a

readback of the psychologists for both the prosecution and the defense. now that could have taken two or three days but shortly after hearing just a portion of one of the psychologists, the jury decided we've heard enough. we're going back. they then asked to review the weapon, the ar-15 style weapon which was provided to them today in the jury room. there were concerns about how they can see this weapon and also remain safe even though it was unloaded. so the sheriff's department here in broward county removed the firing pin and it was around well, a little bit more than an hour ago that the jury let the bailiff know they had reached a verdict and so the families were notified that they should come. again, this is a verdict not about guilt, but rather a decision on whether it will be life in prison or the death penalty. the family members who you see now have all assembled here. we should note at least once

nicholas cruz said he wants to die. he wishes he were dead. so it's possible here that this jury will deliver that one-time wish. the death penalty in florida typically, i mean since 1976 when it was reinstated, 99 people have been put to death here. typically in florida, it is by lethal injection as is in the case of most other states that have the death penalty. but there is an option in florida which is somewhat unusual and that that the electric chair remains an option in florida, but that is generally at the discretion of the inmate themselves so only one has ever asked to go into the electric chair and that inmate's death sentence was stayed. so the electric chair has not been used. we're going to see, i think, you'll never get closure for the folks who lost their loved ones, who talk about their children as forever 14, forever 15.

to know what they have been through and it will never close, but this is a moment they have been waiting for, living through, over and over. not only in their daily live, but in the courtroom, jose. so now we wait for the jury to come out. the foremen to read. it's 17 counts. you need unanimous in each of those for the jury to come to a death sentence, but it could be unanimous in one and the other 16 it could be life. he will still get the death penalty. it does not need to be death for all 17 for it to be a death penalty decision here. jose? >> and so david, former florida state prosecutor and so much more, assistant u.s. attorney for the district, so this trial since july and yet relatively quickly was the jury's decision. what does it tell you as we await the, oh -- okay. just want to make sure we don't, but david, what does it tell you

that the jury was so quick in its decision making? >> jose, a quick verdict is generally most times in favor of the state. i find it hard to believe that if there were one or more jurors holding out for a life sentence here that they would have been able to change that person's mind that quickly this morning. it's clear somebody had a question about whether or not a mitigating circumstance being his mental health was an issue here. that's why they asked for the readback of the expert that the defense put forward on both fetal alcohol disorder and his mental infirmities then the fact they wanted to see the gun again. perhaps that was something generated by statements made as to his ability to function. to hold that gun, to move it around. whatever questions there were though, those were answered rather quickly this morning.

it could have ended as early as last night if that gun were to be brought into the jury room. often, a good night's sleep gives people a chance to look back at their perspective. but a quick verdict like this has to make the state feel these jurors are going to unanimously recommend the death penalty and then we'll have to wait for the judge to hold a sentencing hearing where she will decide if that's a penalty that will be imposed. >> so that sentencing hearing, how quickly is that held after the decision is announced today? >> well, if there is a life recommendation on one or more of the counts, that sentencing hearing could be held immediately after the jury is pulled and sent home because a judge cannot overturn a life recommendation. if this jury recommends death on one or more or all of these counts, the judge will set what's called a spencer hearing, which is an opportunity for the defense to make one last pitch

to the judge that life is the appropriate sentence and for the prosecution to reaffirm their belief that the jury's recommendation is correct. the judge can give each side a couple of days, a week to do that. but it's not going to be a month. it will be relatively court speaking shortly after the jury's verdict is read. >> and in the state of florida, explain to us if you would, the judge has to reaffirm essentially if it is a death sentence. the judge has to reaffirm that and this spencer hearing i'm sure is a part of that. how is that process in the state of florida as far as if you are found and if you are determined you know to have the death sentence, how is that process carried out in the state of florida? >> well, after the changes in both the florida legislation regarding the imp imp sigs of

the death penalty that it had to be a unanimous recommendation of death, the way it's carried out is that the judge reevaluates the aggrevating factors and looks at the mitigating circumstances and she weighs them much in the same way these jurors have. she then gives the parties an opportunity to speak and to voice their opinions and concerns and then she will evaluate it and issue an order where she sets out her reasoning to either accept the jury's recommendation that the death penalty be imposed or override that recommendation and impose a life sentence. however, you know, jose, given the evidence that's been presented in this case and if the jury recommends death, i find it hard to believe she's going to be able to override that jury recommendation given

what the jurors have seen, given what she's seen. >> and kerry, i was thinking to 2018, february, just outside the school, just witnessing just the horror of what happened there. and then kerry, there is no closure for these folks that we're seeing on our screens. there is no way that what today will be announced will in any way have you know, balance out in anything. >> i think you can understand that because of not only the horror, but the age of these victims at 14, 15 years old. the parents in many ways have turned their rooms into shrines. i mean, this was a moment in their family's lives where everything was possible and then everything was taken away.

and so closure for anybody who's ever gone through a horrific loss knows that sometimes there is no closure. there is time that allows things to be somewhat dulled, but for these families here, nothing has been dulled because they have been sitting in this courtroom hearing every second of every moment that happened on that february day four years ago. i think we should also point out that as we just heard, this goes to the judge and the judge then finally makes the recommendation if it is death. but it's worth noting in florida, judges are elect ld so it would be highly unusual with just that pressure that the judge would deviate in any way from what the jury recommends

here. there was a time when the judge could recommend and sentence the inmate to death, but that's changed. we now have to have a unanimous jury and as we're sitting here, we see nikolas cruz there. during the trial, he has been doodling, writing notes. some of which have been made public. at one point, he was in the jail and got into a scuffle with a deputy. his defense has said throughout this this reasoning for mercy is because he was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. his mother was an alcoholic but the prosecutor who retired, he retired. he was the state attorney here, but he decided that an 80 years old, he was going to stay with this trial and see it through. his commitment to the family was that he would stay with this trial until the bitter end. he said that to the jury hate is not a mental disability.

and so if there is fetal alcohol syndrome, this was not that. this was driven by hate. the prosecutor in his closing arguments to the jury without notes went through every second, minute by minute. given even actual times as things happened. so the fact that he knows the case inside and out and now the jury knows the case inside and out and has heard all of this, you can never predict where a jury is going, but it's suggested by the prosecution and the defense, which basically said here you know, you have your 12 jurors that are your friends right now, but you will be making this decision then afterwards, you will have to live with this decision on your own. you won't have them with you to talk to. but at the very beginning when the jurors were selected and we

have members who were former military, immigration officers, legal secretaries. we have seven men, five women. very ethnically diverse of blacks, whites, hispanics and i believe one from the west indes. from their 30s up to about their 60s where the jury has listened, but they said at the beginning when they were selected to sit on this jury, they said because they were asked are you willing to set aside your personal beliefs about the death penalty and consider what the law says? all says they would be willing to do that because one of the questions that always goes into a situation like this is will there be somebody who has a moral aversion to the death penalty, but in this case, we have a jury that agreed they would set aside whatever their personal beliefs are to consider what the law allows here and of course, the family members are

very anxious. you know, like i say, some of them are expecting a death penalty sentence. they want a death penalty sentence. but others have said we're going to leave it up to the jury because at the end of the day, there is no true justice for us because what we've lost, jose. >> every single one of those parents that are there, kerry, their lives forever changed on this february day in 2018. we were just seeing fred guttenburg there. his life has changed, his focus of life has changed. his 14-year-old daughter jamie lost her life there. there you see fred. it's like their lives will never be the same and there is so little that one jury or any one person or system can do to give them any kind of closure.

>> reporter: no, you know. jose, this is in many cases, you know, politically, this became a rallying point for protection for gun control, for efforts we should not forget that the students who survived at marjory stoneman douglas who went to washington and rallied, this is not just a school shooting that happened in our country. i'm almost sounding when i say that that i'm doing that lightly because every school shooting is so horrible and dramatic, but this one galvanized the nation in a way where millions of people gathered and started a movement in this country which has had some incremental successes and many of those marjory stoneman douglas students are now in their 20s but they hang on to this mission to make sure things will change.

we know schools are very different, especially in florida. you can't just walk into a campus. there are fences around the schools. there are locks. you must show ids. you have to go through certain doors. it's changed things just for parents to pick their kids up because they have a tummy ache and need to leave. there have been significant changes. but closing the barn door after the horse got away does nothing for these families who have lost so much and are now waiting in this courtroom. we'll have the microphones on here in a couple of moments and we'll hear what it is. the judge will tell them to hold the decorum and we'll find out what the jury decision is. in this case, the jurors names have not been released and if the jurors decide to talk, it will be at their discretion. they will decide later whether they want to talk about this and quite frankly after everything they've been through, they may very well need not only a kai

thardic expression, but they may need psychological counseling after seeing the videos and locking at the photographs. they may need psychological counseling themselves, jose. >> kerry and stay with us, david. we're going to take a short break. as soon as the announcement is ready, we will bring it to you live right here on msnbc. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports. like when i decided to host family movie nights. miracle-ear made it easy. i just booked an appointment and a certified hearing care professional evaluated my hearing loss and helped me find the right device calibrated to my unique hearing needs. now i enjoy every moment. the quiet ones and the loud ones. make a sound decision. call 1-800 miracle now, and book your free hearing evaluation. (vo) businesses nationwide are switching to verizon business internet. call 1-800 miracle now, (wilder) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business-grade internet solutions nationwide.

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>> okay, court is back in session. the lawyers are present. the defendant is present. it is my understanding that the jurors have reached a verdict in this case. are both sides ready to bring in the jurors? >> ready, your honor. >> defense? >> defense.

jurors are entering. all jurors are present. >> okay, the jurors are present. everybody else may be seated. it's my understanding that you have reached a verdict in this case. you're the foreperson? >> yes, ma'am. >> would you please pass the verdict forms to the bailiff.

>> all of the verdict forms have been properly executed and dated and signed by the foreperson. at this time, i'm going to publish the verdicts. the state of florida versus nikolas cruz, verdict form as to count one, we the jury find as follows as to nikolas cruz in this case. aggravating factors as to count one, victim luke hoyer. we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, nikolas cruz was previously convicted of another capital

felony or felony involving the use or threat of violence to another person, yes. we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor nikolas cruz created a great risk of death to many persons, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first degree murder of luke hoyer was committed nikolas cruz was involved in the commission of a blurry, yes. we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first degree murder of luke hoyer was heinous, atrocious or cruel, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first degree murder of luke hoyer was committed in a

cold, calculated and premeditated manner without any pretense of moral or legal justification, yes. reviewing the aggravating factors that we unanimously found to be established beyond a reasonable doubt, we the jury unanimously find that the aggravating factors are sufficient to warrant a possible death sentence, yes. one or more individual jurors find that one or more mitigating circumstances was established by the greater weight of the evidence, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the aggravating factors that were proven beyond a reasonable doubt outweigh the mitigating circumstances, no. signed october 13th by the foreperson. mr. benjamin? verdict form as to count two,

victim martin, we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, nikolas cruz was previously convicted of another capital felony or felony involving the use or threat of violence to another person, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor nikolas cruz knowingly created a great risk of death to many persons, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first-degree murder of martin was committed while nikolas cruz was engaged in the commission of a burglary, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating

factor, the first-degree murder of martin was especially heinous, atrocious or cruel, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, the first-degree murder of martin was committed in a cold, calculated and premeditated manner without any pretense of moral or legal justification, yes. reviewing the aggravating factors that we found to be established beyond a reasonable doubt, we the jury find that the aggravating factors are sufficient to warrant a possible sentence of death, yes. one or more individual jurors find that one or more mitigating

establishes was established by the greater weight of the evidence, yes. we the jury unanimously find that the aggravating factors that were proven beyond a reasonable doubt outweigh the mitigating circumstances outweigh the evidence, no. signed and dated by the foreperson, mr. benjamin thomas. count three, we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the aggravating factor, nikolas cruz was previously convicted of another felony involving the use of threat of violence to another person we. we the jury find that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt the