tv Katy Tur Reports MSNBC October 14, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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this is a once deep red state that is starting to look a lot more purple lately. joe biden won in 2020, along with not one, but two democratic senators, and because of that upheaval, it is also a state where republicans are trying to claw back their political power. donald trump's allegations of fraud still loom large here. in an effort to overturn the election. it failed and he is under investigation for it. and his lies and voter integrity have widespread changes in how georgia votes, fewer drop boxes and voter i.d. and restrictions who can give you food and water inline and perhaps most importantly a new law that gives the state legislature more power over elections, taking some of it away from the secretary of state. right now, there are around 7 million active voters on the rolls, down roughly 700,000 from the high water mark in 2020, but
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still, a remarkable number in the midterm year. do they all show up? and if they do, will they vote on party lines? or split the ticket? there are two big races, stacey abrams, versus kemp for governor and rafael warnock versus herschel walker for senate. there is a lot of talk about voters saying yes to kemp and no to walker. speaking to voters here today, some of them tell me that part of the reason is that they think walker is a liar. that's their words. not mine. the concerns go beyond walker's recent abortion scandal, to claims that he was a law enforcement officer, and fbi agent when he was not, and that he graduated from the university of georgia, when he did not, and he exaggerated his business background, along with paternity questions. polls show warnock leading walker but not enough to make it a sure bet. at tonight's debate which should be fiery, we looked at child support and explaining that in a
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moment, and trying to tie him to joe biden and a rubber stamp on the democratic agenda and we have reporters with what both campaigns are saying, but let me repeat what i said at the top, this is a fascinating race. not just because of the scandals and the test of what voters will tolerate but because of all of the voting dynamics at play, how resilient and determined people are to show up and participate. joining me now is ellison barber who is also in savannah. good to see you. so the debate tonight is going to get fiery with allegations on both sides. but i guess we should not necessarily expect raphael warnock to take the first shot in terms of the personal stuff. >> it's interesting, on policy tonight, i think that we will hear warnock spend a lot of time talking about the legislation that he has supported and worked on in washington, d.c., legislation that specifically impacts people here in georgia. i am confident that he will bring up the infrastructure bill
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and the fact that he was part of the group spearheading and encouraging the federal government to send $8 million that went here to savannah, the port of savannah, to try to deal with infrastructure and supply chain issues. here on the campaign trail i have never once hear him get into some sort of a detail about the personal controversies that surround his opponent. i expect tonight that we're going to hear him mostly try to focus on the work that he has and continues to do in washington, d.c. on the policy front, for walker's campaign, and having spoken with sources close to the campaign, he's probably going to talk a lot about the economy and inflation, and he does that a lot on the campaign trail, but the biggest thing i think we will hear from him tonight is that he will try to tie raphael warnock, senator warnock to joe biden. joe biden has a low approval rating in this state. back in september, a poll of likely georgia general election
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voters, his approval rating was 37%. so he will probably try to make the case, as we have seen him do on the campaign trail quite a bit, that in his mind, warnock and president biden are one and the same. that being said, you mentioned a lot of the personal issues of controversy. it is hard to see a world where the moderators don't bring that up, even if senator warnock doesn't, there is a possibility he may address it, but so far, he has sort of stayed on the outside of those debates over walker and some of the allegations from the abortion allegation, to his history of domestic abuse and violence and allegations there, and it will be interesting to see if he takes a more forceful stance on some of those issues tonight. >> it will be interesting, it's part of the defense that walker has put out, hey, listen, i wrote a book on, this i changed as a person, i've come to terms with who i used to be, what does he say in that book?
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>> and he went specifically, we are talking about past allegations of violence and domestic violence with his first wife, and he said hey, look, this was almost two decades ago, i did an interview, i sat down with my wife where his wife in an interview with abc news years ago said at one point he held a gun to her head and said i will blow your brains out. he said that's all been addressed. that's from the past. i wrote a book about it. you can read the book. i have dealt with my mental health issues, my struggles with disassociate identity disorder and know longer have symptoms, but i have read that book that came out in 2008 and he doesn't go into any detail about that specific allegation from his now ex-wife where she said he held a gun to her head. and when you look at the protective order she filed when she was trying to get a restraining order against him, she talks about a moment she was out with a new boyfriend and he drove by and he was pointing or something along those lines, perhaps she thought maybe making the gesture of like a gun or something like that, with his
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hand, and following her, as she walked. so there were a number of other domestic abuse allegations there. and truthfully, the book does not go into detail about a lot of those specific allegations. and while walker did write an op-ed in "the wall street journal" talking about his mental health struggles it really has not been directly addressed thus far. >> he says read the book. ellison barber read the book. thank you very much. >> i did. >> and with me the atlanta journal constitution political reporter and msnbc political contributor, greg bluestein, the author of "flipped how georgia turned purple and broke the monopoly on republican power" and national reporter greg caputo will talk to us in a second and join us. and so much has been surrounding the scandals of herschel walker and he is trying to back away and re-point everyone at raphael warnock and i was listening to
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georgia public radio this morning and they were saying they hope there are two candidates talking about qualifications and wondering how qualified walker will stand and he is trying to lower expectations, he is a country boy who isn't that smart. >> he is trying to lower expectations but he has been preparing for months. he has a debate coach. he has consultants. staffed up. so he has policy time with advisers. and that doesn't mean that he will necessarily shine when it comes to policy issues. he hasn't talked specifically about many of the policy issues that senator warnock is likely to bring up, but he is aiming toward galvanizing his conservative base. right now polls show him really weak among conservatives. there are a number of split ticket voters who are signifying they will vote for governor kemp and senator warnock. a big issue for his campaign and we expect him to hammer the point home. >> is it the scandal eating away with him or the fact that he has never held an office like this before and doesn't talk a lot
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about policy. >> it is a number of issues long before the abortion issues came out he was struggling with the republican voters and already a splil ticket trend months ago. and whether it is the falsehoods and the lies that you talked about in the intro or other issues like statements on the campaign trail, blunders, gaffes, all of these issues kind of form this cocktail and this concern not just in independent voters but a significant number of republicans. >> who is the split ticket vote ner georgia. >> we are expecting it to be in the moderate suburbs. the voters that might have voted republican strongly in the past and might have flipped to democrats under the donald trump era and might be willing to go back but not for herschel walker. might be voting for governor kemp. i have anecdotal evidence. i've written stories about them. and polls keep showing up, you know, 8, 9% of kemp voters backing senator warnock. >> mark caputo is now with us. and this sun is one of states where a condition could get 50% and there is a runoff and that could be the case, there is a
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libertarian candidate who is polling around 4% of the vote which is enough to push this into a runoff. when you look at the numbers, how many get-able voters are there out there for either campaign? >> i will refer to the walker campaign's internal polling. it show has oliver, the independent is taking 2% of the democratic vote and 5% of the republican vote. so what that means for walker is that he's kind of losing three points to warnock as a result of libertarian candidate being in there. and then when it comes to independent voters according to walker's own internal polling, the libertarian candidate is taking 8% of that vote, so when you add those together, it's a problem for walker. it's not a problem for warnock. as greg just said, is this race -- this race is trending more toward warnock and it has been that way for quite some time, with the long-standing doubts about walker. so tonight, he's got to find a way to do two things. he's got to find a way to claw
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back conservative and republican voters who are nervous about him and then he's got the suburban swing voters who are also just not with him right now in his candidacy. >> and mark, when you look at all of the changes that were made to the state, and the aftermath of 2020, the limiting of drop boxes, the changes and when you can ask for an absentee ballot and when you can send that absent see ballot in and when you can vote early et cetera, has that diminished the desire to get out there and vote and diminish the ability of some folks to get out there and vote? what have we seen so far? >> well, i mean just look at this debate right now. there is an historic amount of interest. i think this senate debate according to the organizers and people of both the republican and democratic parties, there is more interest in this senate debate in georgia than there is in any of the others. the reality is georgians are going to come out and vote. i don't want to say people are going to be able to vote easily.
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we don't really know. but what is pretty clear, there. so i can imagine, you're going to get at least for a midterm a pretty historic number of people casting ballots. i don't know how it will compare to 2018. but it is probably going to be pretty close. i would defer to greg to that though, he is certainly more of the expert. >> greg? >> we don't know how the changes are in effect because it is the biggest test yet. >> they do have some effect in the primaries. >> we know they're aimed at mail-in voters less than in in person and typically in 020, that favors democrats and that is why democrats are particularly worried about the time limits for returning absentee ballots and the voter i.d. requirements and they're worried it could hamper, it could be new obstacle at the ballot box but we won't know unfortunately until deser what type of effect it would have. >> that is why i would tell you, it is an interesting race, the voter changes, and the scandal and the balance of power in the
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senate is at play here if the republicans are able to take back this republican in history at least seat. thank you very much. and joining me now is the ceo of the georgia project and her group works to register and engage with the growing population of black, brown, and young and other marginalized voters in georgia. good to see you. we've talked about this issue a lot. i'll ask the same question of you that i did of mark and greg. how is it affecting things? >> one, hi, katy, and welcome to georgia, there is an incredible amount of enthusiasm for tonight's debate, and i think part of it is because georgians have had plenty of opportunities to see the politics play out, particularly in the ads on television and on radio, and georgians are absolutely ready to see the solutions play out in the debate. you know, we saw what senator
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warnock's 2020 platform was. we saw what he has done with, you know, his leadership in the american rescue plan, and the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and there are additional promises that georgians, you know, expect to hold the senator to. on the walker side, we have actually been a little light on the details, and light on what his policy priorities are, you know, because of the work of the new georgia project, and we have registered an additional 40,000 young people and people of color this year alone, by this past monday's voter registration deadline, and we know that people care about not only racial justice but gun violence, gun control, abortion access, and access to affordable health care. so on the questions about the economy, on these questions about health care, georgia actually want to know where these men stand.
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>> you told us, the economy, health care, reproductive rights, student loan, crime and violence, and talking about policy, the bipartisan infrastructure bill which you just brought up, i'm sitting in front of the port of savannah, and that is a port that was clogged because of all of the supply chain issues, much like many of the ports around this country. the bipartisan infrastructure bill directed some money to unclogging that port. raphael warnock says he was engaged in that bipartisan legislation and helped bring it to be. when walker gets often the stage tonight, and talks about what he can do for georgians, what are your voters looking to hear? >> i think that, again, these issues that have already been identified, they want to know what a potential walker senate tenure would look like. i think that, i think there that there is going to be questions
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about how he resolves his personal experience with abortion care, with his policy priorities, or his policies position, which is a total ban, even in instances of rape and incest, and so again, as much as these policy priorities and people want to hear details, i think the other question, to sort of thread, the sort of thread that will be pulled on as folks observe these two men debate is what do we think about the content of these men's characters. like what does integrity and authenticity look like? and how does that, how do people experience them, when they're asked direct questions about what they will do for the people of georgia. >> how much scandal are voters willing to tolerate? that's an open question i have. do you have any idea? there is some polling that suggests that when it comes to donald trump at least, all of the scandal, there is an exhaustion that a lot of voters, republican voters have, tired of
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hearing it all the time, there's been a lot of scandals surrounding herschel walker, and now, i know this is his first campaign, so maybe he can be a little bit more resilient toward, it just in the way that donald trump was initially resilient toward it when he won in 2016. do you get that sense? >> my sense is that their resilience is often tied to how tethered they are to the facts, right? so we're talking about herschel walker who denied the claims that he paid for an abortion, but then we're continuing to get evidence and receipts that that might not actually be true. i think the data is all over the place about people's appetite for scandal, right? that you're continuing to get polling to say that people are exhausted, that they want more substantive conversations from their leaders, but we also know the way that people engage with this content, and the virality, if you will, especially when it
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appears on social media, and again our focus and the focus on gen-z and the folks born in 2004 who are going to be voting for the first time this year, and young people and people of color and the majority of folks who get information about elections from social media, that people are engaging with this content in a way that is, that says that, yes, people may be exhausted by it, and they are being challenged, and whether or not to turn it off. so tonight's going to be interesting. i think that even though in a place like georgia where football is almost the most and friday night lights here for many communities, whether they're tuning in to see a substantive debate between two men who want to lead us forward or what. >> there is the braves phillies game tonight that starts at 4:30 which means it might bleed into the beginning of the debate
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that the presidential election of 020 was rigged and stolen he never said whether he will show up. joining me now from capitol hill is nbc's ali vitali. what are the next steps? >> reporter: next steps here for the committee to actually send the subpoena that they unanimously voted on yesterday and we're told that will be sent to the former president early next week. but look, trump responding in that 14-page letter, as you mentioned, detailing a bunch of lies as he has repeatedly said on the campaign trail about the 2020 election. most of the pages of that 14-page letter were pictures of crowds but at the same time, this is sort of the reaction i think that the committee was banking on. as they've been having conversations about whether or not to even go down the road of subpoenaing the former president, my conversations with members have been, that they know it is unlikely that trump will come to the table but it was important for them to put it
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in the record yesterday that they think at least showing the public that they want to talk to him after multiple hearings that have him and the things that he did in the lead-up to january 6th at the center of them, they felt that that was important to do. now, the clock is running out. this did come late in the process. the subpoena itself expires at the end of the year. and of course, we know what happens if republicans take control of congress. this committee is disbanded and of course, that subpoena doesn't get renewed. and so at this point, it is sort of a game of timing here. but right now, at this juncture, other than that letter, trump hasn't said either way whether he will actually comply or fight it, katy. >> the timing is interesting. the subpoena expires at the end of this congressional term. say the democrats win again. can they re-up the subpoena, keep the committee going? >> yes, that's definitely an option here. they could continue their work. but this committee is operating on a december 31st time line.
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they're not banking on the what-ifs, on what happens during the midterms. instead, they're pushing ahead, capping off the investigative hearing yesterday and now turning their full attention to yes the business of the trump subpoena but also tying up some lingering questions about what about subpoenaing vice president mike pence, who had said if subpoenaed he would consider coming forward before the committee. what about the members of congress who are balking their subpoenas right now. and of course the business of the final report that they're trying to do. there is the possibility that they get some kind of interim report, but because that is an official committee business moment, as opposed to something that they can just release other information, we probably won't see an official interim report, but we could see some new information from the committee. because what's been true all along is that while they have packed each of these hearings with tons of new information and evidence, they still have things on the cutting room floor that they can present to the american public. and that is something that we could see before election day, but all of that will certainly be in the final report in
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december, too. >> thank you very much. joining me now is former chief of counter-intelligence and expert control section in the d.o.j.'s national security division, david, good to have you. donald trump didn't say anything about whether he complies and say he does comply. say he does comply. what are the risks? >> well, if he were to, depends what you mean by comply, if he shows up and he answers substantive questions, he is exposing himself to criminal jeopardy with every utterance. that's not going to happen. he's not going to comply. his raving written post signifies he will reject the subpoena out of hand. so this is going to be an easier referral for the committee to make. this is not going to be the situation like the mark meadows case where there's back and forth, a combination and conciliation in part, that kind of muddies the waters for
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potential criminal prosecution for criminal contempt, which punishes the failure to abide by the subpoena, as opposed to civil contempt, which is aimed at trying to effect compliance with the subpoena. and so i think this is going to be a shortened time frame for the committee to pursue a referral to the department of justice. and then to borrow a phrase from speaker pelosi, this will be like a giant poo-poo sandwich arriving on merrick garland's plate, on top of his consideration on other cril charges against the former president. >> so how does merrick garland deal with, as you said, i can't believe i'm going to say it, as you said, this poo-poo sandwich. >> well, look, you know, they are doing triage at the department of justice. he's got, you know, not insignificant recommendations that they're going to get to before long on whether to charge mr. trump with, you know, a variety of things. obstruction is justice is looking stronger and stronger. the "washington post" reporting
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that a valet to the personal president among others were personally directed by the president to move boxes of documents, likely including classified documents, even after the issuance of a grand jury subpoena. i can't think of a stronger more probative evidence than that with an obstruction of justice charge. he has considerable jeopardy for local information with the espionage act, concealment of government records which not only carries a 20-year statutory maximum if he is convicted but also as you know concludes a provision that would disqualify him for holding future office in the united states government. there are a lot of things that happened with the department of justice including a reporting by the "post" this afternoon that the court in dc green lighted the appearance of a grand jury of aides that shielded them
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having to testify. and that means they could bring in a parade of people, possibly including mark meadows to testify about their conversations with the former president that will shed lights on the most relevant facts for charging decisions. >> marc short, a former top aide to vice president mike pence has spoken to a grand jury. we saw him walk into the grand jury yesterday. i think if you're a layman and just following some of this, or even if you're not a layman, i think there are a loet of questions on what would it take for the department of justice to charge donald trump for something, if all of the stuff that has come out about him. with all of the spots that he spotted the law and plotted the rules and norms, what would it take for them to charge, or why wouldn't they just say here is the line in the sand, nobody can break these rules, i don't care who you are, i don't care about the politics? >> well, they're going to have to apply standard, you know,
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considerations, to evaluate the quantity and quality of the evidence and whether they're satisfied with the department of justice policy, that precludes prosecutors from bringing criminal charges unless they believe the admissible evidence is sufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to convict a defendant to withstand an appeal. you know, so can they prove the elements of every offense for charges they're considering? and there is more to it than that, obviously. considering whether to criminally charge a former president of the united states, for the first time in american history, and there probably should be some kind of a plus factor, where, you know, the attorney general, the deputy attorney general, and other department officials will demand that the nature of this case, the nature of the government's evidence, is so pulverizing, in its force, as to eviscerate any notion in the public mind that political considerations underlie a decision to charge. and even then, there's going to be a wrenching prudential consideration for the attorney general to make. is this the first time to do the
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unthinkable and to bring criminal charges against a former president? >> we will see what happens. david laufman, thank you very much for joining us and for getting me to say yet another thing i thought i would never say on television. i appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. >> thanks for being on. >> good to be with you. >> good to be with you. and the most consequential election battle ground in the country, and what the democrats did to make safe races suddenly difficult. i'd like to thank our sponsor liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey. the real honey you love, plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin. the only brand with real honeyand elderberry.
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even congressman sean patrick maloney, the chairman of the house democratic campaign arm is in jeopardy this year. joining me now is the "new york times" metro correspondent jesse mckinley. thanks for being with us. this redistricting map that is now no longer in the democrats' favor and pretty blue new york, although you get upstate and more red areas, how could it come to be? >> well, earlier this year, a state judge basically said these lines are not fair, and tossed them out and established what is known as a special master to re-draw the lines, and the lines that resulted actually tilted several of these districts which look like they were going to be safe democratic seats into more kind of competitive territory, so much so that republicans in the state of new york right now are chomping at the bit. they think that they could pick up three, four, five, six seats. and to the house of representatives as a result turns into republican hands.
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>> sean patrick maloney is in trouble. how close is his race? what is happening there? >> well, that seat is re-drawn, as you pointed out, it's north of new york city, it's a suburban, ex-urban kind of district. he is facing a fairly significant challenge from lawler, now running for congress, after serve can in the assembly here. the polling on that has not been definitive, but it looks very competitive. and considering maloney's prominence as the head of the committee, it is very shocking he could be on the ropes up there. >> pat ryan won a special election just a few weeks ago, a month ago, and it was a big headline for the entire country saying that abortion was a really big issue and that is why republicans across the country should worry, and he won that special election in new york. is he still in a strong
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position? do the political winds that helped him along, are they still there? are they still potentially a help for democrats, in these now suddenly very tough races or is the economy suddenly coming forward again? >> i think you have to break it down. the fault lines in this election in new york and other places in the country, especially the blue states comes to the kind of abortion and donald trump, which is what the democrats want to talk about, and crime and inflation, which is what republicans want to talk about. and pat ryan did win that special election, back in august, and will face a fairly substantial challenge from this guy who is an assemblyman as well. i think the better money is probably still on pat ryan in that district. although that once again is going to be competitive. it's going to be close and could come down to a couple thousand votes here and there. >> how is stefanik in her race? >> the number three republican
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in the house is probably safe. she in a re-drawn district as well. but that district was re-drawn to bend a little further to the conservative side. i have spoken to elise recently and she feels pretty confident, she has been stumping pretty hard. but in other districts, there is a district near syracuse, the democrats are optimistic about that they may be able to pick up, where a moderate republican is retiring and the democrats have high hopes of maybe flipping that into a democratic hands. >> they have had their eye often that race for a long time. and just quickly in terms of redistricting, is this map now the next map that the democrats will be living with for the next ten years or is there another chance to re-draw it? >> it's been set. until 2030, when we have another census and we go back to the drawing board, literally and figuratively with these lines, democrats and new yorkers will be living with these lines. now keep in mind that new york still is a very liberal state. democrats, registered democrats
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outnumber republicans more than two to one here. so in terms of statewide races, the democrats are pretty steady. but the new congressional lines have made things a lot more interesting for little reporters such as myself. >> very interesting indeed. always good to see you. thanks for being on. coming up, the power of the black vote. we are live in atlanta, georgia, talking to hbcu students about whether they are going to vote. they've got a lot of power. first up, after clashing with a ukrainian ambassador, where he used a four letter word, elon musk plans to end the internet service that is keeping ukraine's military online. what he wants the u.s. government to do about it. with verizon, you can now get a private 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it's going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend
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ukrainian military online. musk tweeted that space-x cannot fund the existing system indefinitely and send several thousand more terminals. his comments follow some strong language from musk and ukraine's ambassador to germany who told musk to quote f off on twitter after musk offered up his own peace plan for ukraine, which included accepting russia's annexation of crimea, which was and is a nonstarter for ukraine. musk tweeted today quote that we're just following that recommendation. the f off recommendation. cal perry is in kyiv for us. this would be a big blow to not just ukrainian civilians but the ukrainian military. >> reporter: absolutely. we had a chance today to talk to the head of the parliament. the reason we went to interview him is he is next in the line of succession here to become president if anything happens to president zelenskyy and this week we saw hundreds of rockets
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fired into kyiv and across the country and what we ended up talking to him about was this, because it is so vital to front line troops, this piece of technology, it has been a literal game changer. take a listen to part of what he told me. >> during the first days of the war, we were expecting to have this happen and we were provided with special satellite communications services. and of course, when ukraine began to receive starlink, we realized we had nothing to worry about and indeed the importance of starlink technologies has helped ukraine in this war. i can say for myself when there were periods the president was in kyiv and i was in another place and the starlink system helped me in this particular place. >> now, the bit of news there that we were unaware of, we know that front line commanders, and i mean the front line commanders are using starlink to communicate not only with each other, but back here in kyiv. i did not know, and we did not know that government officials
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university is msnbc's trymaine lee. >> there is a lot of excitement of the midterms but this is homecoming weekend and everyone is excited about celebrating each other and the institution. this is one of those campuses where they take seriously their voting and civic participation and they have this robust apparatus to get people registered to vote and turning out to vote and it is not lost on them that this midterm election is a serious one and the stakes are high. let's take a look. >> how you are doing? are you registered to vote? >> you're going to register down there. >> on the promenade at clark atlanta university, this senior is doing one of the things she does best. >> you live on campus? >> okay. so your polling location is over here. >> harnessing the power of young black voters just like herself. she's the co-chair of cau votes, a nonpartisan voter mobilization group that encourages students to engage in civic life.
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>> have you thought about voting locally in state and local politics? >> they're an army of student organizers that help get young black voters to the polls during the 2020 election in record numbers. black people made up one-third of all young registered voters in georgia. the highest concentration in any state. but concerns over low voter enthusiasm could mean an uphill battle for janiah. >> so in 2020, you know, stacey abrams is running, you have this huge turnout, but the numbers had been actually down here on campus. did you get a sense that there was a lack of enthusiasm or a lack of organizing? >> people were in the streets. they were protesting and it is so easy to get a turnout when things like that happen, because automatically, people think this is how i can get my voice heard. but it's so hard to explain to them that this is where your voice stops. it stops on the street. it has to carry on to the polls. so i think that it was just a lack of people understanding
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where their power resides so that has been the constant, constant battle. >> the voters of georgia, will not only decide who wins the governor's race, rematch, between stacey abrams and incumbent republican brian kemp, but could also determine the future of the u.s. senate, as incumbent democrat warnock is challenged by a republican personal walker in a dramatic neck and neck race. for janiah, the stakes feel higher than ever. >> voting as we know it, honestly, our democracy. >> this election will also be a test of georgia's new voting law, which critics say is an attack on the black vote, by limiting things like absentee ballots, mobile voting sites and bars passing out water and snacks by anyone but poll workers at polling stations. janiah says all of this could contribute to a lack of engagement. >> making people feel like their
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voice doesn't matter and this is why. they feel as though every vote doesn't count, because mine keeps getting removed somehow over the decades. >> supporters of the law, and dismissed claims it will limit voting access, pointing to record early turnout in these primaries. those opposed say primaries with smaller levels of turnout and general elections aren't a fair gauge of the law's impact. the justice department is suing georgia, claiming the law deliberately targets black voters. but no matter the obstacles, janiah believes young black voters can overcome with time and drive on their side. >> how far off do you think we are where this seems like the hbcu student body being a huge block, an important block in this country that matters to politicians? >> give us five to ten years. >> with determination and grit, the power is theirs to take.
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>> despite the many barriers, if anything is true at all, that these young people on this campus and across the south and hbcus, if anything, they are mission driven. they're ready. >> thank you very much. and that is going to do it for me today, from savannah, georgia. peter alexander picks up our coverage next. it's nice to unwind after a long week of telling people how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. showtime. whoo! i'm on fire tonight. (limu squawks) yes! limu, you're a natural. we're not counting that. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ only pay for what you need. in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas.
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