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could change. >> if he comes i'm going to punch him out. i have been waiting for this, for trespassing on the capitol grounds. i'm going to punch him out and go to jail and be happy. >> we are seeing more of that incredible video of speaker nancy pelosi on january 6th demanding protection from trump's government and making sure lawmakers of both parties stayed safe. while trump infamously did nothing. also tonight, the chilling new questions being raised by the january 6th select committee. about the secret service and members of the fbi. and senator ron johnson might have a second career in stand-up comedy because the audience sheer was laughing at him at this debate with mandela barnes. and he wasn't even trying to be funny. we begin "the reidout" tonight with reality crashing down on donald j. trump. with the house january 6th committee reminding us that trump was the driving force behind the attack on the

capitol. he's reacting like a man who knows the walls are closing in as evidenced by his 14 page rambling incoherent letter to bennie thompson today responding to the subpoena. one of many shoes to drop as his legal exposure grows by the day. starting with his most immediate threat, the ongoing investigation into classified documents seized from mar-a-lago. the "wall street journal" reports that two trump aides are now witnesses in the probe. one was seen on surveillance video at mar-a-lago moving boxes and told fbi agents he moved them at trump's request. and a second aide who has also been subpoenaed in the justice department's january 6th probe. on top of that, an appeals court in washington refused to postpone testimony from mike pence's former chief of staff, mark short, in the doj's investigation into january 6th. signaling that attempts by trump to invoke executive privilege to preserve the confidentiality of presidential decision making

were not likely to prevail. that would clear the way for other people with knowledge of events that day to come forward and testify. just as trump is raging about being forced to testify next week in a defamation case brought by writer e. jean carroll who accused him of rape. but the question for donald trump is, will he have the guts to testify to the january 6th committee? since he was the sole beneficiary of the insurrection and the only person who can answer to every aspect of the plot. committee member jamie raskin has already called him out as a snowflake. >> i mean, if somebody accused you, rachel, of trying to overthrow the government or topple an election, i think you would probably be the first person to say no, i want to come and testify about that. and clear up the record. or alternatively, if you did it and you're proud of it, then come forward and testify about, you know, why you think you are

the new mussolini leading a right-wing movement to overturn our government, but have something to say. >> trump lashed out on his failing social media platform and in that letter to thompson, which was full of his usual false claims. but look, let's be clear. anything he's saying now should be discounted by what he admitted to his aides in real time. >> he said something to the effect of, i don't want people to know we lost, mark. this is embarrassing. figure it out. we need to figure it out. i don't want people to know we lost. >> the president says, i think it could have been pompeo, but words to the effect of, yeah, we lost. we need to let that issue go to the next guy. being president biden. >> he was looking at the tv and said can you believe i lost to this f'ing guy. >> i said does the president really think he lost? and he said, a lot of times he'll tell me he lost, but he wants to keep fighting it. >> not only that. but we now know that as early as

july of 2020, trump was going to declare victory regardless. the one person who could have believed, believed actually there was fraud in the election was donald j. trump. and he didn't believe it. we also got fresh insight into the activities of congressional leaders that day and in particular house speaker nancy pelosi, essentially acting as president of the united states. working to secure the capitol, and trying to save the life of vice president mike pence. >> okay, and call us back. i worry about you being in that capitol dome. don't let anybody know where you are. >> the video also shows speaker pelosi requesting deployment of the national guard. flanked by republican leader kevin mccarthy and his number two, steve scalise. catching scalise in a lie. since he suggested back in june that speaker pelosi was involved in decisions to delay deployment of the national guard. the new video inside the chaos brings into stark focus trump's

dereliction of duty since we have now seen behind the scenes that congressional leaders were actually trying to stop the violence. we have even seen behind the scenes video of the happy trump family backstage at the rally prior to the siege in the capitol. the one thing we have actually never seen, never ever, is real time video of donald trump, president of the united states, trying to stop the violence, because we know that he didn't, as evidenced by additional video of congressional leaders from speaker pelosi's daughter, filmmaker alexandra pelosi, and hbo. >> d.c. has requested the national guard and it's been denied by dod. i would like to know a good god damn reason why it's been denied. >> joining me is a former special agent with the fbi's counterterrorism division and the assistant dean of yale university's school of global affairs. kurt bardella, contributor to the los angeles times and usa today, and nole caseler, comedian, former staffer of the celebrity apprentice, and host of the nole kazler podcast.

asha, i'm going to start with you. this is a lot, a long intro. the thing donald trump has managed to do is get away with being a tax evader, stealing documents from the federal government and taking them home, putting them in his bedroom and wherever else in his house. you could go on and on. violating the norm and the act you're not supposed to profit from being president. he's really gotten away with everything. but as a professional, somebody who has been in the fbi, who has investigated criminals, does it feel to you like accountability actually is sneaking up on him, and what do you make of this subpoena and whether or not he could try to evade it, the january 6th subpoena? >> yes, joy. i think that trump is realizing that the impunity he was enjoying for so long really was a result of the trappings of the office that he was in. and now that he's no longer president, he is in the eyes of the law a nobody.

and so just like you and me, it will catch up with him. he still has a lot of power, influence, and it might take a little longer than it might for your average joe, but i believe that it will, and it is. we can see that happening. with regard to the subpoena, listen, there's really no upside to him to testify. the one thing that he may have been able to claim until yesterday was that he truly had a bona fide belief he had lost the election, and that was disabused yesterday. so for him to show up would either be for him to make an excuse for justification, which we know he's not going to do, or to double down and basically prove the committee's case. and also be lying to congress, because he knows it. i don't see that happening. but i think that the committee giving him that opportunity sort of calls his bluff that he has the opportunity to clear his name if he wants. >> and baiting him, too. and nole, thank you for being here. i have been coveting having you on the show for quite a long

time. thank you. you actually know donald trump, and there are not that many people who have had the -- i don't know if you would call it the benefit of being in his presence, seeing how his mind works. but it's not just the trappings of the office of president that have protected donald trump all his life. it's the trappings of being rich and famous. so he's gotten away with everything. so the donald trump that you know, can you see any possibility that he could be baited, which let's be clear, the committee is trying to bait him to come and testify. can you foresee him ever doing that? >> absolutely not. as much as i would enjoy it because it would be must-see television, because he would melt down like he did in his 14-page rant, but there's no way he would because he's too vulnerable. he's not going to swear under oath to tell the truth. and he couldn't compose himself for the amount of time that the committee would, you know, interview him. and the thing i know about donald trump is there's sort of two donald trumps. there's the behind the scenes

guy who knows what the deal is. right? who knows he lost the election. and then there's the public face of donald trump that he hides behind the trappings of wealth and, you know, having ex-police officers around him and secret service and the flag and all these kind of things he uses to intimidate others. and his world is crumbling now. i think yesterday was one of his worst nightmares because people were seeing that he knew he lost, and they were also seeing nancy pelosi showing real leadership. so i don't think there's anything in it for donald trump to testify. and i think ultimately he's a coward. >> and he's already been exposed now as not being a billionaire, not being as rich as he said. that's clear. he's been exposed as clearly a derelict president, somebody who didn't know how to do the job and was incapable of doing the job, and who also led an attack on the united states. can you get inside, you know, donald trump wanting to stay president for life, we kind of get it from his personality, but

what about the people around him? how is he drawing people around him who are willing to go along with what are clearly felonies in order to keep him in office? that's the thing i think most people don't understand. >> that's a hard thing to understand. you know, you can understand it with a more craven gop politicians just looking to stay in office. how he kind of attracts these people into his orbit and then corrupts them is a mystery. you know, i never talked about this before, but i went to high school with bobby engle, the secret service agent who trump choked in the back, you know, of the suv, and that guy was a marine, a straight shooter, who had a long career in the secret service that was distinguished. and then trump comes along and he has a way of sort of inveigling himself in with these kind of guys and how is your family and all this stuff. he smooth talks them and then next thing they know, they're sitting in an suv with him and he's saying take me to the capitol. you know, while we attack it.

and i think before you know it, you're involved in his criminality, and then people worry about their own culpability. and they shut up because there's a lot of poem saying, hey, don't say anything. we'll get you out of this. and if you look at trump's track record, he has gotten most people out of things. he hasn't really been held accountable, so you know, it obviously shows a lack of moral clarity, but he knows how to find those kind of people. >> and until he's not helping you at all. that leads me to roger stone. roger stone is one of those people who has been a consigliere of donald trump's for a long time. one of his roy cohn characters. here is roger stone and how he reacted when he realized trump doesn't care about any of these people. he certainly doesn't care about roger stone who has a lot of exposure and he didn't get a pardon which he wanted and a lot of the pr members of congress wanted. here is roger stone melting

down. >> jared kushner has an iq of 70. he's coming to miami. we will eject him from miami very quickly. he'll be leaving very quickly. very quickly. he has 100 security guards, i'll have 5,000 security guards. you want to fight? let's fight. [ bleep ] you. [ bleep ] you and your abortionist daughter. >> so that is supposed to be his friend, kurt. when i saw that, the first thing i thought is how long before we get a video like that of kevin mccarthy. on january 6th, kevin mccarthy was also melting down like that, screaming at donald trump. yet, he's back to being a sycophant. >> well, joy, just goes to show that donald trump surrounds himself with -- it's really this den of thieves, that they're all out for themselves. there's no real royalty. they all hate one another in their own way and they're all just allies of convenience. the minute that becomes inconvenient, someone gets thrown by the wayside. we have seen that pattern with

donald trump over and over again. whether it was his close personal attorney, cohen, whether it was steve bannon, this is how it always ends. it always ends the same way with donald trump skrx it ended with his people pulling their hair out, wanting to do something. he changes his mind. they all end up talking crap about each other. for donald trump, this is a guy whose close ally is saying these abhorrent terrible things about his own kin, his own son and daughter, and of course, he's not going to do anything about it. he doesn't really care. trump only cares about himself. it goes to show when push comes to shove, trump always just folds. that's why he's not going to show up to the committee hearing, why he's not going to testify. he is scared to death of having to confront liz cheney in a congressional hearing, and let's remind people, hillary clinton managed to do this for 11 hours without ever having to bleed the fifth. >> well, listen, she's a cheney. you should be scared of her.

asha, let me come back to you. when you look at this sort of parade of potential peril, legal peril for donald trump, what do you see as the greatest peril for him, the greatest immediate peril? because he could try and push off the subpoena and sort of play games and go to court. which of the things do you think is going to be the most perilous? >> i think the most straightforward liability that he has is the mar-a-lago case. and that's because those are all his actions. this is something that he created. he took the documents there. it's becoming clear that he was the one directing people to keep those documents from being returned. and it's not one of these big conspiracies where we have to get to what someone said to him, what was happening behind closed doors. it's all him. and the evidence is as they say in the law, it speaks for itself because they were found at his property. and so i think the public can understand why this is wrong.

you don't have to get into do you believe the election was rigged or not. i think that's the main one. though i do think that both the january 6th, i think that is increasing in likelihood he'll have liability for that, and then i think georgia also is on deck, let's say. >> and do you have a theory, just as an observer of this person, of why he would take these documents? why he would take national security related documents to his house? >> yeah, because i think they were valuable. and i think trump's entire administration was basically a grift. he was just like, how can we profit? what here is of value that we can take and sell or use as leverage later on? that's the kind of people they all are. hikids are like that, jared is certainly like that. and that's why i think it looks like they took nuclear documents, right? because that's going to be the most valuable. it costs a lot of money to create the technology that that's documenting and the secrets are worth something.

so that's my theory, is that he would take them to sell them, to get him out of a jam for whatever reason he could use them for himself, that would be his primary concern over national security. that's why you don't want somebody like donald trump in the white house. >> and kurt, then i'll leave the last question to you. there is something about the quality of people who represent us when it comes to many, many of these republicans, unfortunately. normally, an elected official would hear something like you heard noel saying, hear what you heard asha say and say this is unacceptable from a national security point of view. i care more about my country than my party. there isn't anyone in the party saying that. there isn't anyone saying it's an absolute outrage this person took home nuclear and other secrets to their house. they're just defending him and attacking the fbi. explain. you used to be in this party. you used to be on staff to this

people in the house of representatives. what is wrong with these people? >> it's almost like they belong to a party that's made itself all about being pro-life, yet somehow campaigning for a guy who paid to have multiple abortions and he's now their poster child for their political party. it's just become very clear, joy, that all of these issues, whether it's national security, whether it's homeland security, whether it's crime and so-called law and order, they're all just weapons to the republican party. they don't actually care about issues. they don't care about the public policy side of things. they don't care about what positions they have taken in the past. they're all about weaponizing these things to try to advance their imagined culture wars and grievances and to use them as armor. and to use them as weapons against democrats to quote, own the libs. that's all that they're about. the reason why, after we heard for, what, five years them talk about benghazi and national security and how it was

compromised by hillary clinton, and now for them to turn around and not say a word, not say anything about donald trump's invasion of national security and compromising our own most top secret issues, like, again, it just goes to show that just like they are on abortion in georgia, they don't care about these things. they just use them. >> let alone a war against them. a war by the executive branch, a literal war with an army against the legislative branch where they sent an army in to kill the president of the senate, meaning the vice president of the united states. and to hang him, so you know, there we are. asha, kurt, noel. thank you all very much. >> up next on "the reidout," serious questions were raised by the january 6th committee about the actions of the secret service. while an fbi official was warned about the sympathies of some fbi agents. "the reidout" continues after this. out sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide hygenic clean free.

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so arguably the thing that most damaged hillary clinton's 20 campaign costing her the presidency is when fbi director james comey in the final days before election day made the unprecedented announcement that the agency has reopened an investigation into her emails. what many people probably didn't know is the reason behind that decision. comey later testified to congress that he feared that fbi

agents in the new york field office were leaking information about the investigation to donald trump's campaign. in fact, former attorney general loretta lynch relaid a conversation she had with comey claiming he said it's clear to me that there is a cadre of senior people in new york who have a deep and visceral hatred of secretary clinton. these agents ultimately came to the assist of donald trump. arguably hoisting him to the white house. now, nbc news reports that in the week following the january 6th attack, a top fbi official was warned that a large number of bureau employees were sympathetic to the people who attacked the capitol. paul abate, the number two at the fbi, received an email that said there's no good way to say it so i'll just be direct. from my first hand and second hand information, from conversations since january 6th, there is at best a sizable percentage of the employee

population that felt sympathetic to the group that stormed the capitol. he also lamented the only reason this violent activity is getting more information is because of political correctness. joining me now is peter strzok, former fbi counterintelligence agent. this was one of the more alarming things i discovered last night when alex wagner read from this letter last night when we were sitting on set talking about the january 6th hearings because this is an indication not only was there an anti-hillary element, but the the main fbi has intelligence there could be a violent attack on the capitol, and they brief the secret service about it, but they don't actually take action and brief the congress and the gang of six about it, it's a huge problem. what do you make of this? >> well, joy, i think the first thing that's important to note is that overwhelmingly, all the men and the women of the fbi who took their oath of office take

that oath, take the constitution and their duty to the constitution extraordinarily seriously. this letter, and i read the email i read as well, raised a series of really serious allegations. at this point, they are allegations. but the point is, if any of those things in there are true, even if there's one person, it's imperative the fbi or any other organization gets to the bottom of that. because that's the sort of behavior that just is incompatible with serves as an fbi employee, as a government employee. do i think this is widespread? absolutely not. it was not my experience, but the nature of the allegations have to be taken seriously. if the fbi and others don't take it seriously, it's important that others take a look as well. >> to be fair, the fbi is like any agency. they draw from the general population. and there's going to be a certain percentage of people in the general population who are one way and a certain percentage another way. idealogically, you'll have a

full range. it's part of the population. let's just be fair. you can't characterize the whole agency this way, and by and large, the fbi is clearly trying to do its job, as you said. but the thing about january 6th that is so frightening is this sort of sense that the capitol police were left hanging, left out there. that police agencies, that the congress was left vulnerable. let me play for you, this is mark short. he was the chief of staff to vice president pence. and this was him talking about concerns about pence's security. take a look. >> the room is for the vice president's security and so i wanted to make sure to have the vice president's secret service was aware that likely as these disagreements became more public that the president would lash out in some way. >> and so you have this thing where it's not clear that some of the secret service agents, we talked about the fbi, that some of the secret service agents,

jamie raskin has called mike pence being unwilling to get into the car with secret service agents that weren't his detail the sixth most killing words in this entire thing. because it wasn't clear that all the secret service agents could be trusted. what do we do if we have to now be concerned that these agencies might not be working on the side of preserving democracy? what do we even do about that? what should the administration do? >> well, joy, i think it's incumbent upon the agencies to look and make sure there is no behavior that is incompadable with the very oath of office that all of these folks that i took and others took. and if there is, to correct that. but at the end of the day, we need to look at the source of this. the source of this is donald trump. the source of this is donald trump in the midst of a riot tweeting about mike pence, encouraging the crowd to go after him, encouraging the sentiment that just built into a powder keg on january 6th. and all of the fallout from that. look what he did within the department of justice. look what he did across the government.

we have to make sure that all the folks who are there understand their duty, and again, the overwhelming number of people do, but if there are incidents that raise questions about that, we need to identify it and it needs to be addressed. at the end of the day, that needs to percolate all the way to the top of our elected leaders so they understand there is no person in the executive branch whose fail fealty lies with them. their oath lies with the constitution, not with any man. >> this is the wild thing about this, peter. the exact sort of probe you're talking about, which the military is trying to do to make sure they're weaning people out of anti-democratic, small "d" there, then they say the fbi is woke, they went to mar-a-lago to get the documents back, the secret service is woke, that's why they wouldn't go into the capitol. what do you make of this thing

where a lot of maga right now despises the fbi, they want to defund the fbi, they want to defund, attack the united states military. they're too woke. what do you make of this strange world we're living in where it is the right now that detests seemingly, not all, but some, the fbi? and the military? >> joy, it makes no sense. it is everything as a former army artilleryman, as an fbi career man, it makes no sense because that's nothing like i heard or expected and the world is upside down. i don't understand it. it isn't that they don't believe that the law shouldn't exist. it's just that they shouldn't exist for them. >> right. >> if you want to say, okay, the bill of right is woke, i don't understand what the constitution and the bill of rights lay out all the equal protection, all the idea of the protection of minority rights, everything that flows from that. these are the preseps of our founding fathers. that isn't woke. if it is, i don't know how

anybody can argue against it. it's the strangest thing in the world, and i keep thinking at some point we'll reverse back to this tradition of republicans supporting law and order, supporting law enforcement, supporting the military, but i'll be darned if it just hasn't continued. it is nonsense. it is again nothing but absolute hypocrisy to be arguing on the one hand as you indicated, you have donald trump chanting about hillary clinton to lock her up over a very small number of classified documents that are material, but he's hoarding a far more massive volume of material and wants to be above the law as far as that's concerned. >> it's a bizarre world. thank you for being here. >> we're going to do a whole segment about wokeness because at the moment it's a good thing. you would think when voters are laughing at you and booing you, that could signal trouble for your re-election campaign. so why is senator ron johnson leading in some of the polls?

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these. >> it's never a good sign if in the final debate of your re-election campaign, an audience of your constituents is laughing at you. that was the case last night for republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin who received quite the takedown from mandela barnes on everything from suggesting getting rid of social security to downplaying the january 6th attack on the capitol. even marrying into the business that he claims makes him experienced in creating jobs. and johnson is not the only republican making a fool of himself on the campaign trail. there's also pennsylvania senate candidate mehmet oz. the tv doctor misled reporters about an emotional moment last night with a philadelphia voter who tearfully shared her story on gun violence. it turns out oz conveniently forgot to mention the woman, sheila armstrong, was a member of his campaign staff. joining me now is susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, and dean obeidallah. you're the comedian at the table, dean, so you get laughs because you want to get laughs.

ron johnson got laughs because he said something dumb. >> all that was missing was him saying live from new york, it's saturday night. it felt like an snl sketch. please don't laugh at this. look, he should be booed everywhere he goes. this guy, he trafficked in anti-muzlic bigotry years ago. now currently first with covid, underplaying covid and then undermining the vaccines and then january 6th, then saying the thing, remember, they were trump supporters, i was not afraid, but if they were black lives supporters, i would be afraid. wisconsin, you're better than this. the state of dairy and cheese, not bigotry and bs. >> you said he should be booed. he was. here he is getting booed. >> mr. barnes. you go first. what do you find admirable about your opponent? >> seriously, i do think the senator has proven to be a family man, and i think that's admirable. >> mr. johnson. >> likewise, i appreciate the fact lieutenant governor barnes had loving parents, a school

teacher, father who worked third shift. he had good upbringing. i guess what puzzles me about that is with that upbringing, why has he turned against america? why does he find america awful? >> susan, how is this even close? >> i don't know. i don't know. the only thing i can think of is maybe he says i was abducted by aliens and they took over my body and i said something really bad. i don't know. but to dean's point, what is serious, especially when it came to vaccinations and ron johnson, those were dangerous times. and he has just let down his constituency, literally putting their lives on the line. he cannot and should not be a u.s. senator with such disregard for human life and frankly just the people on the ground and how they're living their life. >> and yet there are polls showing him ahead. let's go to mehmet oz versus

john fetterman. your thoughts on this. we talked about it in the break. you wish you didn't have to feel the way you feel. >> dr. oz, if he wins he makes history. he's the first muslim american elected to senate. as a muslim, it should be a moment of pride, but it's not. he's not the muslim we want. if you want a muslim in the senate, it could be keith ellison or me, i'm available. but look, dr. oz, i guess in between killing puppies and trying to sell fake diet pills he was out there having a plant, knew it or not, a plant there, an emotional moment. turns out the woman is a paid campaign worker. so everything about dr. oz is disingenuous, dishonest, and he's from my home state, jersey, which he should go back. >> the thing about it is the media manipulation. this is what the republican party is about, about cons, not policy. owning the libs and manipulating the media. that's what dr. oz did. >> he absolutely did. to touch on what dean said. the is important to recognize

this is probably really bad campaign work, but no one was fired over it, and it shows his type of leadership. that's what concerns me, is that he's been a fraud in his medical practice. now he's being a fraud with the people of pennsylvania. >> and speaking of it not mattering. susan and dean are going to stay here, but first, the highly oh, so highly anticipated debate between senator raphael warnock and good old everybody's daddy herschel walker in georgia. somewhere sunnier. relocating in weeks. weeks? yeah, weeks. gotta sell the house. don't worry, sell to opendoor, and move on your schedule. yes! request a cash offer at opendoor.com people remember ads with young people having a good time. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a pool party. ♪ good times. insurance! ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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can you tell me why he voted with joe biden 96% of the time if he was standed for georgia? that tells you he's for joe biden. i'm for georgia. >> mr. walker, thank you. now before we move on -- >> i would like to respond to that. >> i'll give you that opportunity, sir. i'll give you that opportunity, senator. you have 15 seconds to respond. >> it's very clear my opponent would rather be running against anybody except me. but there are only two people who are going to sit in this seat. either me or my opponent. and i think this race is about who's ready to represent the people of georgia. >> that was just moments ago as senator raphael warnock reminded georgia voters what is at stake come november. this is the first debate for the georgia senator and his republican challenger, herschel walker. walker has tried to lower expectations before the debate, telling reporters he was not that smart. he said that about himself.

walker has spent the past few weeks in intensive debate practice. and back with me are susan del percio and dean obeidallah. susan, i worked in campaigns. you have run campaigns. i don't know that you ever had a candidate like hearsal walker, but i would think at a certain point, a party would have the sort of respect for politics and respect for the united states senate that they wouldn't want a candidate like herschel walker. he was the pick of the voters down there. that's who they picked. they had a lot of choices. what would you do with a candidate like this, and why do you think republicans don't care about his scandals? >> just from a logistic point of view, i would do exactly what they did with walker tonight. they gave him very scripted lines to deliver. and he memorized them. so he's delivering. as far as what do you do with a client, i mean, i'm sorry, what you do with a candidate like that, it's really tough once they're on the ballot. even with all the abortion talk,

they couldn't walk away from him, and i think when we saw rick scott go down there, it was to show for fund-raiser purposes, we're not abandoning him. at the end of the day, the party did first get behind herschel walker because donald trump did. and that is what it came down to. they did not get behind a credible person, and they could have. it's not like there's lack of people who could run for senate who are capable. they went with a name that donald trump wanted. >> the abortion issue has been the big sort of issue. here he is dealing with it. walker on abortion. >> we will see time and time again tonight as we have already seen that my opponent has a problem with the truth. and just because he said something doesn't mean it's true. i have supported our police officers. i have called them and prayed with their families like those officers lost in cobb county. when they were killed doing what

police officers routinely do. you can support police officers as i have done through the cops program, through the invest to protect program, while at the same time holding police officers like all professions accountable. one thing i have not done, i have never pretended to be a police officer. >> that was a great line. now, let me play the sound bite i wanted to play. that's a good line. he's a pastor. don't play with a pastor. here is walker defending himself on the abortion issue. >> we will see time and time again tonight as we have already seen that my opponent has a problem and just because he's had something, doesn't mean it's true. i have supported our police officers. i've called them, and i've prayed with their families. >> hold on a second, hold on a second. we have to wrap this. let me just ask you, do we have a soft one.

okay, we don't. let me just read that to you. so, okay, we don't have it yet. so, essentially, tonight, and you guys watched, as you guys were back watching, it walker again, denied that he had gotten a woman pregnant, and paid for an abortion. your thoughts? >> of course, what other options does he have at this point, other than to double or triple down. on some level, walker is the father of his own voting bloc. i can't help but say that. >> and raising father of our country. >> but the thing to me, herschel walker, i don't know that man. the new york times found he spent a quarter of child support -- -- >> 3500 bucks. >> look, he has no choice. he's gotta keep lying, and lying, and lying. as he come clean now? but on the other clip, raphael warnock is absolutely right. herschel walker is a serial liar. he lied about being in the police, being at quantico with the fbi. he lied about -- now he says i'm not smart, four years ago, he was on tv saying i graduated in the top one percentage of my class and college. he did not graduate college. it is like, after lie, after

like. and of course, and using his ex-wife. we saw that video, in a word, he's despicable. he is a despicable person. >> and yet, the republican party is not at all embarrassed. i mean, you can go on. tommy tuberville doesn't know anything that's in the civil rights act. he doesn't know what it was, as a matter of fact. and a blatantly racist things, he said, and even if you go to marjorie taylor greene -- >> it sure looked like one. didn't it? and that is really what it comes down to, is that explain to that audience, and it's producing that language. and herschel walker doesn't have the ability to speak that way, because he doesn't think he can thread the sentences in a row. but if he could, he would. that's what they decided to do, and that's what's destroy the republican. >> and the thing is, it is trying to appeal, in their mind, this is what we have to do to built the white working class voters, and get them excited, and get them excited, and get them to vote for us. >> absolutely. the cruelty is the point. it's also the racism is the point.

but what is missing is that the sentence continuing, racism is the point because the base likes it, because it animates the base. it's not because these leaders are inherently cruel or racist, they might be. they say because they think it works, and sadly, it works for a swath, not all republicans, but a swathe of them. and that's what the reason why they do it. >> and the black -- guy >> i think i have good news. i don't think there will be five to 10% of republicans that go to the polls in november. in georgia, and say, on voting for kemp, okay. that may not be good news for some people watching the show. but they are not voting for walker because he is too much for them, for that moderate republican to take. so, they just walk away after they voted for warnock. >> and i think for democrats, it's difficult. you don't want to attack somebody's intelligence, you know, and make fun of them for it. but at the same time, if you have a respect to the united states senate, if you have a respect for politics, and you think it actually means something, you do want an

intelligent person, and that we can make decisions, not a puppet that they can stick their hand, like he is -- it's actually quite articulate. >> look what it's happening in pennsylvania. you have dr. oz going after john fetterman, thank you some how locking the cognitive skills to be a senator. you have democrats coming back against herschel walker, whatever cognizant issues there may or may not be a. but something is going on there. he does not deserve to be -- >> i mean a football player, he's doing out there, he had a lot of babies, we know that. susan del percio, you're gonna stick with us. we're gonna tell you guys when we come back on the lead, don't go. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ gotta sell the house. oh...open houses. or, skip the hassles and sell with confidence to opendoor. wow. request a cash offer at opendoor.com tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid. can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains.

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manager, maybe left. that's why i'm laughing. we have made it to another friday, which means only one thing. it's time to play -- ♪ ♪ ♪ >> oh, yes, france. who won the week, back with me. susan del percio, who won the week. that is my radio voice. >> great debate against twitter dickson, and of real winning line with the only dixon that cares more about the second amendment and then second -- and i just thought it was great. just as an fyi, independent woman, that is what is needed for a win. they came or about gun violence right now and abortion. >> all right, there we go. dean, what do you think? >> kanye west did not win in the week. >> that is clear. >> the general six committee, when they brought it all home,

everyone knows it's premeditated, and they subpoenaed donald trump. so, let's see him show up. but he's afraid of liz cheney. we all know he fears liz cheney, and he's a friend of dick cheney. >> okay here is my who won the, weekend it will be a sound, this is actually related to what dean said. >> when we left the conversation, he said mitch will handle pressure. i said, what we are getting a counter point that is a thing of charm to clean up the pooh-pooh that they're making all over the place, and literally infiltrating the cabinet. >> she is president and grandma all in one, speaker nancy pelosi won the week, baby. susan del percio, and dean, thank you. that is this week's reidout. all in with chris hayes starts right now. all >> tonight on all in -- >> when you ask the president to make a statement, answer my question -- >> before someone is hurt. >>