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counting down the three weeks left until midterm elections. early voting is currently underway in several states. candidates are squaring off in debates going this weekend, and as the clock runs out, democrats are calling on their biggest guns, president joe biden is in oregon today stumping for the democrats in that state gubernatorial race, which has become surprisingly close in a reliably blue state. vice president, kamala harris, is in michigan pushing early voting and raising money for democratic governor, gretchen whitmer's reelection campaign. and then there's the news this morning that former president, barack obama, will kick off his own midterm campaign travel with stops in at least three swing states later this month. michigan, wisconsin, and, of
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course, georgia. where democratic senator, raphael warnock, and his republican challenger, herschel walker, face off in their sole debate last night. walker, if nothing else, seemed to be working from the playbook popularized by his patron, donald trump. constantly interrupting warnock, flouting debate rules, and mechanically denying the personal allegations that have dogged his campaign for the last month. the knives are out with just 23 days left to go. and we dig into all the major campaign headlines tonight on politicsnation. but as the campaign season enters its final stretch, another campaign. the congressional probe investigating the january 6th attack appears to have drawn to a dramatic clothes, after its ninth and reportedly final hearing. the house select committee,
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wrapping its case with a dramatic ending this week. it's unanimous vote to subpoena donald trump for his role in the events of the insurrection. trump responding yesterday, calling it, of course, a, quote, witch hunt. but not saying whether or not he will ultimately comply with the subpoena. probably because, like so many things, the future of the probe will be decided by this upcoming election. deep show tonight with three weeks left. let's get started. joining me now is congressman gregory meeks, democrat of new york and chair of the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, first of all, thanks for being with us tonight. before i get to probably the biggest political moves of the week, election day 2022, it's just over three weeks away. early voting underway in several states opens up here in
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new york state in two weeks. are you confident that democrats will hold on to the house and, based on what you've seen, why? >> yes, rev., i've been going around the country. i've stopped in many of those states that are up for grabs, and i see the motivation of individuals, of democrats, coming together because they realize what's on the line here. you know, generally what you would have is a downward trend, as far as turnout is concerned. but people now understand, by what you've seen through the january six hearings, that democracy is on the line, that you see the supreme court taking away rights, as opposed to giving rights, and they want to know what's next. and you also see a president that has kept his promises. the first black woman to be on the supreme court, to make sure that we, you know, the inflation reduction act, to reduce and make sure that the price of drugs will be kept for seniors, and that medicare and
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medicaid can't negotiate those prices. the transportation infrastructure bill, so the promises that were made coming out of the greatest pandemic, that i think we've seen in over 100 years, and what the president has done and accomplished. the war in ukraine, the aggression with russia, and making sure you keep our nato allies together. i think that people are coming to the realization of what joe biden and the democrats have done, that's why you see biden's numbers going up, and you see people are now predicting any longer the -- thought they were going to take place when the republicans over democrats -- headlines over headlines starting to say it's a 50/50 shot. when you see that, you are going to see the turnout increase. >> now, let's go to the january 6th investigation. house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol ending its knife and purportedly final hearing with
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a unanimous vote to subpoena donald trump. with barely three weeks to go before the midterm election that will determine the future of the probe, of course, a gop takeover of the house next month is likely to mean the end of the congressional investigations after trump come january. what can congressional democrats do to continue this probe or some form of it, should republicans end up taking the house next month? >> the first thing is we are not going to let the republicans take the house. i don't think the american people will let the republicans take the house because they know they want to cover up. and they remember what took place when they were there. you know, they brought in, you know, at the subpoenas or came in, hillary clinton and others, they came in and testified. you see individuals here, particularly a number of them, trying to avoid the kind of subpoenas that were taking place coming to testify before the january six committee. so, democrats are going to maintain, because what we are trying to do is to show, you
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know, rev, i'm the chair of the foreign affairs committee. we tried to lead the world and talk about democracy. and talk about how, in fact, we have accountability. and that's exactly what the january 6th committee is doing. they are -- the regulations and restricting our institutions, so that democracy continues to grow and thrive, and individuals show that no individual is above the law. and so, i think you will see that same drumbeat until such kind of the justice department of a takes over and does its homework, does its work, and you will see whether or not indictments come down as a result. >> let's stay right there, let's stay right there. in your capacity as chair of the house foreign affairs committee. as russia's war in ukraine continues to drag on, particularly in the country's south, and tensions appear to be escalating between north and south korea over the former's
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military demonstrations this weekend. are you concerned about either conflict creating and october surprise that could spell trouble for democrats and the president ahead of next month? >> well, you know, you never say never, but i know that i've been to that region. you know, rev, i was in taiwan and south korea, japan and singapore. i'm going back to that region in the next week or so, going to india and australia, and i've been to various other european allies. so, one of the things that i think is clear to the russians and to others, that the democratic countries of the world are locked in and they are working together. that's one of the things that president biden has made sure that we are working collectively. and so, i doubt if russia or china, or north korea, we'll do anything other than try to, you
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know, display power, like what took place when we left taiwan. the north koreans had missiles that went over taiwan, and went into the water is not far from japan. well, that's a display. i think that they've not, you know, will not continue to make that mistake of actually attacking someone of our allies, because they know the ramifications of that. they would be tremendous. so, i'm pretty sure, from all signals that i've gotten, that i don't anticipate that type of an offensive. but the united states, the president, i can tell you, if an accident took place in those regards, or if there was some kind of aggression of that nature, there would be reprisals in the united states and they are in fact ready to deal with that. >> let me ask you this, congressman, quickly because i'm out of time. i want to get your reaction to
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a pair of national security concerns that emerged this week out of the january 6th investigation. first is the late breaking news last night that the select committee has requested all communications between the secret service and the far right oath keepers leading up to january 6th. and second, there's this redacted email publicly revealed this week address to a top fbi official by an unnamed external source, suggesting a large percentage of fbi agents were sympathetic to trump and the insurrection at the time of the attack. what's your take on these developments? >> i think that has to be thoroughly investigated, clearly. that's one of the reasons why, you know, individuals say we have a whole lot enforcement accountable. because you have some rogue people in any profession. but in law enforcement, particularly. you know rev, i'm a former
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prosecutor, a former district attorney, assistant district attorney in queens county. and a former special narcotics prosecutor. i always had to vet my police officers, and i knew i had some that did their job overwhelmingly, those did the job right. but you had some bad apples, and the only way you could get the bad apples out, is by investigating and looking at all of the evidence and all of the facts. so, it helps the -- it would help the fbi, would help the secret service if, in fact, there was an investigation you found. there were some that were sympathizers for the insurrectionists that ron january 6th can get them out. that helps the overwhelming good. so i think there needs to be a complete and full investigation, so that we can get out those that were the sympathizers and did not do what they were supposed to do. >> all right, thank you, congressman, chairman, greg meeks. joining me now is nine whaley, candidate for governor of ohio and also former mayor of dayton,
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ohio. thank you for joining me today. >> reverend sharpton, great to be on today. >> now miss wiley, you are running for the gubernatorial seat in ohio, as a democrat against current republican governor, mike divine, dewine. there has been only two democratic governors in ohio in the last 40 years. to start, what made you want to take on the incumbent governor? >> well look, as mayor of dayton, a job which i love, it's a job where you have to be visionary about where you want your community to go. but at the same time, you have to fill the potholes and plow the snow, or they will kick your tail out of office, reverend. so, we notice that communities across the state had local leaders doing their level best to move their communities forward, but they didn't have a partner in the governor seat. and really, as we've seen the decline of ohio, because mike dewine has been in office since i was ten months old. for the past 46 years, ohio has gotten further and further behind in his leadership, and we deserve better than what we
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are getting at the state house. >> if elected, he would be just the second female governor of ohio in its history. the first only served briefly on an interim basis. you've made abortion rights a centerpiece to your campaign, vowing to amend the state constitution, protecting abortion access in ohio after the supreme court's reversal of roe v. wade. why is this a top priority for you? >> well, look, reverent, the minute in june 24th happened, all women across the country lost a right, and it was devastating for us. it's never happened in my lifetime, a group of people to lose a freedom. but if you were in ohio, it was terrifying. seven hours after the abortion row fell, we witnessed the six-week abortion ban go in place in our state, and we've seen the devastating ramifications from that. a ten year old in columbus who
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was raped had to go across state lines to terminate her pregnancy. when mike dewine was asked about it, he said, he doubted she existed and if she existed, she was lying. and when columbus police arrested her rapist, and he confessed, mike dewine only had two words which were, no comment. this is a basic freedom, its economic issue, and it's so out of step, mike dewine's position, is so out of step, as he plans to go as far as possible on the issue after row fell. his words, again, not mine, and we don't even have to imagine what that is in ohio, because there's a bill in the state house that bans in vitro fertilization, bans birth control, bans abortion at conception. and you know, reverend sharpton, you've been to ohio. ohio is a common sense state. it's a pro-choice state. 82% of all high winds believe we should have some sort of access to abortion. this is an economic issue for our state, it's a freedom issue for women, and it must stop if we want ohio to be a place that
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people want to come and go, and be a part of. >> let's turn to another issue, the issue of guns. you are the mayor of dayton when a gunman killed nine people within seconds at a bar in a popular entertainment district there. and earlier this year, governor dewine signed a bill allowing ohio winds to carry a concealed handgun without a permit or training. this is a personal issue for you. how would you address gun violence in ohio, if elected? in contrast to your opponent. >> you are right, reverend sharpton. this is a personal issue for me. i stood with the people of dayton the day after that shooting, where nine people were killed and 27 more injured, and 32 seconds. and watch thousands of daytonians come together, and mike dewine. and when mike dewine got up to speak, the people of dayton shouted, do something. so loudly that the governor had to sit down and could not finish his comments. the next day, he told me he
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intended to do something around gun safety, and i took him at his word. i stood next to him when he unveiled his bill, and then i watched him do absolutely nothing to move it forward. you know, the radicals and extremists got a hold of him and keeping our communities safe is just something he talks about, but no action happens. and you are right, permit-less concealed carry is something we've signed that makes an officer involved shooting go up by 14% in our communities. and then in the wake of uvalde, his answer was to arm teachers, bus drivers, and cafeteria workers with very little training. again, lot enforcement was against this and so our teachers. this is what we are getting with a governor who's so out of step. let me be clear again, ohio is a common sense state. nine out of ten ohioans believe we should have universal background checks. this is what we need to do to move forward, it's to roll back these backwards bills that put our communities and make our communities less safe, pass universal background checks in the state, and then pass red flag laws so we can make sure
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that our places of worship, our schools, our football fields. on friday night now, we've had three shootings in ohio during friday night lights across the state. enough is enough and we deserve better in ohio. and we can't get it from mike dewine, because he says what is politically convenient at the time. but when the rubber meets the roads, he's right with the extremists and radicals. >> now, ohio's been the subject of a few high-profile police killings. this year, 25-year-old, jalen walker, and 20 year old, donovan louis were shot and killed by police, both victims were black, as you know. i've been to ohio with several of those cases. in the wake of the murder of george floyd in 2020, you introduced five steps of change for the city of dayton as mayor. if elected as governor, what is your plan to hold ohio police departments accountable for police brutality, especially against the black community? >> as the former mayor of dayton, i saw this firsthand.
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i let the police reform process that brought together the community and police to rewrite our policies and make everyone safer. we found common sense policies policies that everyone could agree on. we actually, reverend, actually just won an all american say or because the process in dayton was a bottom up approach, not a top down approach. that's what i think is key whenever we are doing this work, that we talk to folks and engage people that are most impacted in the problem. in the case of police reform, it's the african-american community and the police coming together to find solutions. now, the state of ohio can do something that i think would be very helpful to local communities. it's immediately, when there's an officer involved shooting or interaction, the state immediately investigates. so that way, communities don't have to investigate themselves, there can be transparency and an outside process. that's very, very important for local communities to continue to build trust with their communities, and make sure that the investigations are fully
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transparent, and that they actually happen. right now, that's not happening. the state can actually turn down local communities if they don't want to investigate, and that puts a big burden on the communities that want transparency and an outside investigator to look into these issues. >> nine willie, thank you for being with us. we should mention the politics nation team has also reached out to the dewine campaign and extended an invitation for him to join us, nan whaley. coming up, two scandals, two parties, and to different outcomes. we will break it down in this week's got you. and later, herschel walker's debate performance looked very familiar. but will it work with voters? our political pedal weighs in. but first, my colleague, richard louis, with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, good saturday. start with breaking news for you in iran. a fire has broken out at the evan prison in tehran. footage posted online shows flames and smoke blazing.
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gunshots and alarms were reported, says iran state media. a fire has reportedly been contained. student loan forgiveness applications, they are starting. the department of education launched a unabated test of its forgiveness website friday. applications will be processed when the site officially launches later this month. and holiday travel for this upcoming season is set to be one of the most expensive on record, says travel booking group, hopper. thanksgiving airfare prices are currently up 25% from last year and up by 55% for christmas. more politics nation with reverend al sharpton, right after this break. reverend al sharpton, righ after this break (vo the new iphone 14 pro is here. and right now business owners can get it on us at t-mobile. apple business essentials with apple care+ is included so you can easily manage your team's devices, here, and here. all on the network with more 5g coverage. it's the ultimate business trifecta, with the new iphone 14 pro on us.
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things topics. but when it comes time to stop talking about personal responsibility and actually hold colleagues countable, a very different picture emerges. in the past week, to elected officials, one democrat, one republican, were both caught in a scandal for saying things that were very racist. the republican u.s. senator, tommy tuberville of alabama, stood in front of a crowd at a trump rally in nevada, implying black people are criminals and democrats want to give said criminals reparations. not only was tuberville not punished for his racist rhetoric, other republicans actually tried to defend or downplay his remarks. congressman don bacon of nebraska told me, the press, that senate top senator tuberville should have been more polite. now, let's compare that to the case of los angeles city council president, laurie
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martinez. when audio emerged of the california democrat making racist comments about black people and indigenous mexicans behind closed doors, her fellow colleagues in the party were rightly shocked and offended. she chose to apologize and eventually resign. the contrast between the two stories could not be more clear. when a democrat was caught behaving poorly, she was held accountable. when a republican did the same, colleagues rallied around him. this is not the first time. in 2017, former u.s. senator, al franken, was asked to step down following a wave of accusations of sexual misconduct. democrats were unwilling to tolerate allegedly inappropriate behavior, even for one of the parties most prominent politicians. at the same time, this was happening, republicans were falling in line behind donald
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trump and his presidential term got underway. choosing to look the other way as he embroiled himself in a series of ever escalating scandals. such as appearing to sympathize with white supremacists after charlottesville and taking on his own intelligence agencies over russian meddling in the 2016 election. at the time, it seemed to sum that republicans were compromising their values for trump. but half a decade later, it appears that trumpism defines republican values. it is almost unimaginable now to think that high-ranking republican politicians would apologize or resign over any scandal, no matter how serious. so the next time you hear republicans pontificating about personal responsibility, tell them to follow democrats example and get their own house
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there are several topics to discuss, so let's turn to my political panel for their analysis. joining me is read gallon, cofounder of the lincoln project and a team amara, democratic strategist and president of o'mara strategy group. read, let's start with your georgia senate debate last night between senator raphael warnock and herschel walker. the two candidates addressed topics such as abortion, crime, and medicaid expansion. but the most unusual moment came from walker during the question about crime. take a listen. >> i am -- police officers and at the same time -- >> mister walker, i need to let you know, mr. walker, you are very well aware of the rules tonight and you have a prop.
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that is not allowed, sir. i ask you to put that prop away. >> well, it's not a prop. it's real. >> now, going into the debate, walker was down in the polls after recent allegations against the republican senate nominee. it seems like herschel walker has taken the big accuse from donald trump with his constant interrupting and rule breaking. is it going to hurt him with voters? >> you know, it might, reverend. but i will tell you this, i mean, his campaign has been so insane to begin with that i'm not sure if he's not down 20 already, that he won't make this a close race just on the natural already. i don't understand, i've got to be honest with you. i've seen a lot of things, just 12 years ago, there were not one, two republican u.s. senate candidates who even approached language like this, behavior like this, and they were left dead in the water. but here he is, we should not take anything for granted. i would say that you are absolutely right, he acted just like donald trump. he was going to interrupt.
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i thought that reverend warnock did exactly what he needed to do. talk about his record, talked about what he wants to do for the people in georgia. so i think that this is one where just like it's an unusual year everywhere, this senate race is going to come right down to the end. i do think that reverend warnock will ultimately win. but we should not take anything, again, anything for granted as we break, you know, these last 24 days before the election. >> a team, also on the midterms front, former president obama is traveling to various cities pushing mid term early voter turnout in support for democrats in key races. in georgia, michigan, wisconsin. now, in the final stretch, how much of a difference can the former president make in swinging voters? >> i think a decent amount. there are some who voted for him in 2008 and again in 2012, and still think -- you know, several folks, even some republicans were like, i would've been happy with the third term for obama. so, he's going to wisconsin
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where he won both times. so, you know, i think getting sort of that old batch going on the road, for those who remember his time as president rather fondly, i think will be helpful in some of the pivotal states. >> read, switching gears now. donald trump is responding to his soon to be served subpoena with a lengthy letter to the january six committee chairman, congressman benny thompson. after it was announced that this week's hearing, he's not yet saying if you will comply with the demand for documents and testimony. but he used the letter to double down on his false claims about the 2020 election. this might have been the last hearing for the committee. how does the panels investigative work compared to hearings in the past? such as the 9/11 hearings, which led to the creation of homeland security and the watergate hearings, which led to nixon's resignation and major government reforms.
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will the january 16th committee lead to anything major? and if not, can we say it was successful? >> well, i think we can say it was successful, reverent, because the committee, a bipartisan committee, we should note, didn't excellent job laying out the case that donald trump knew all along what he was doing. we even have testimony from one of his aides going back as early as july of 2020, that he was never going to go quietly. there was a conspiracy between him, some donors, some activists, some militia type groups. they knew they're going to commit violence on that day. they wanted to stop the certification process, and they almost succeeded. will it have an effect? i think it very well could lead to not only indictment of some of donald trump's closest advisors, but also the former president himself, which i think he's certainly rightly reserve, not for this, but certainly many other things. do i think it will have long term impact? not structurally, like you described, after watergate or 9/11. simply because i don't think
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that the time or the place, or the government we have, or the politics we have now, will allow that. >> -- according to a new exclusive report in the wall street journal, two people in donald trump's inner circle are talking to the fbi about moving government documents in and around mar-a-lago. nbc has reached out to all parties for comment. we've not yet heard back from trump. how damaging is this to trump's team's claims he complied with the doj's demands? >> i think this is pretty damaging because people who are in his inner circle and obviously they are doing the math, and they're like, well, you know, if they are not going to put it on him, i'm not risking jail time. i don't have, you know, money to spend on lawyers or any other type of -- so i'm going to cooperate. i think, you know, it was very damaging to see some of his other aides come forward, like
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cassie earlier -- i think this could be depending on who it is. but definitely, if they have evidence of having moved on his behalf, and told directly, faces some additional damage for him, sure. >> -- before we go, you previously served as board chair and vice chair of planned parenthood metro washington action fund. senator, bernie sanders, wrote an op-ed this week entitled, democrats should not focus only on abortions in the midterm. that's a mistake. is the issue of abortion still giving democrats momentum going into the midterms? how can they keep it top of mind for voters? >> it's definitely top of mind for voters. you know, when i hear senator sanders talk about abortion, that's not tied to economic concerns, it is definitely one of the leading indicators for folks who decide when they want to have families. when you look at polling, it's,
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like, can i afford to raise a child? with childcare and other things. when you look at polling for what mode is motivating voters, kind of the family foundation put out a poll just earlier this week that shows 76% of voters across a political spectrum are motivated by what happened with roe, to actually support candidates who will protect abortion access this fall. so, it's still top of mind in most of the states that are going to be competitive for u.s. senate and in congress. abortion and economy are very much in step so, you know, as long as republicans are trying to pass bans, restrictions, you are hearing some of these horses coming out of states. it's going to stay top of mind for individuals in this country as they go to the polls this fall. >> all right, read jayland and -- thank you both for being with us. comedians, eric andriy, and plain english, join us to talk about a lawsuit that is no laughing matter. they will explain why they say they were targeted at one of
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questioned about drug possession on separate occasions by police officers, as they attempted to board aircrafts at hartsfield, jackson, atlanta international airport. their suit against the clayton county police department and the district attorney's office, contending that with this program, in addition to being unconstitutional, it, quote, targets our succeed disproportionately based on the race. joining me now, comedian eric andré, host of the eric andré show, and comedian clayton english, season nine winner of nbc's last comic standing. mr. andré, mr. english, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> it's a pleasure. >> it's a pleasure, thanks for having me. >> to recap a bit more for our audience, your lawsuit contends that you are both stopped and searched in separate instances about six months apart, while
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trying to board an aircraft at hartsfield jackson atlanta international airport. the result of a program designed to curb drug trafficking through random, quote, consensual encounters, according to clayton county police. but your lawsuit pretends that you are singled out, racially profiled because you were both black in both instances. you are asked to hand over boarding passes and identification. in your case, mr. english, the lawsuit claims that you submitted your bag for officers search, not believing you had a choice in the matter. in your case, mr. andré, a public clayton county police said, you agreed to such a search willingly. we reached out to clayton county police department, a spokesperson reiterating that the department does not have a comment at this time, as litigation is pending. apart from that, gentlemen, is there anything i'm missing here? mr. andriy, first, and then you. >> yeah, it wasn't really
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consensual. i got on, i was coming home from work show, i was filming in hbo show in charleston, south carolina. got to the atlanta airport to connect to los angeles, back home, you know, i went to the gate, arithmetic, it got on that awkward, claustrophobic jet bridge and two white clayton county police officers, out of nowhere, kind of almost, like, ambushed me and started asking me if i was carrying drugs on me, if i was transporting drugs, if i was using drugs, buying drugs. they went through all the specific drugs. and, you know, i was the only person of color in front of me or behind me, and clearly they were racially profiling me, the whole experience was humiliating and dehumanizing, and it's not really consensual. when two cops pop out and start berating you, barraged with all these questions about drugs, you don't feel like you have the right to leave. and then they asked if they could search my bag, finally after all these questioning,
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and i went, do i have to say yes? the older cop was like, no. i was like, well then no. so, you know, it was traumatizing. it's not the only time we've been racially profiled at the airport. i've been out a lot of airports all over the country, so -- >> what about you, mister english? >> yeah, part of the reason i reached out eric andré is because our stories were so similar. when i was going to the airport, you know, business security, i passed everything, i gave them a ticket to get on the plane. on the jet bridge, two officers confront me, basically cornering me. on both sides of me, so it's really nowhere for me to go. people are squeezing around me, is humiliating good because people looking at you like oh, what's he doing? what's going on here? i'm the only one being stopped. they tell me that they're looking for cocaine, methamphetamine's, do i have any of these things. concern is making this flight because i have a writing job i'm trying to get back to
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two l.a. that's, you know, things like this or time sensitive, so i have to be there tomorrow. so, in my mind, and this may be partly being from the south. a lot of the times, we just are taught whatever police to, you need to comply to get yourself through the situation. this was one of those times. i just -- what was that? >> go ahead. >> yeah, they said, can we search the bag? i know i didn't have any of those things. but the way they were asking me the questions, i started doubting whether i had done anything. so, they search through everything, they handed my i.d., they handed me about boarding pass. i was able to get on the plane, but the rest of the time i'm just thinking, man, they are going to come arrest me once everybody gets on this plane. i'm not sure what i did. i know i didn't do anything, but i'm feeling like, man, did somebody say i did something? what they think? what are they thinking? that's what i was stuck with the remainder of the flight. i didn't say anything to any of the people that worked at delta. i wanted to ask, is there something that normally happens? because in my experience, i've
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been profiled before, but never on the jet bridge in this manner. and it just seemed to be solely me getting harassed. >> on that point, according to an associated press assessment of clayton county police records, there were 402 jet bridge stops between august 30th, 2020, and april 30th, 2021. around the time of your respective encounters. out of that 402, the passengers race was listed in 378 of them. 56% of those stops were of black people. people of color, accounting for 68% of the stops. according to your lawsuits, which adds that out of those 402 stops, only three resulted in reported drug seizures. from that, only two people were ultimately charged. mr. english, what do you make of those numbers?
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>> i mean, i think the numbers speak for themself. i think -- said the odds of them randomly selecting that amount of black people, or people of color, was, like, one in 100 trillion. so, i don't think it was a drug and addiction program, but just the logic center in my brain says, who tries to get drugs when they are leaving your jurisdiction? so, i think the other findings showed is that, you know, they were confiscating money from people in large sums. and if the stats are what they are, then those people are probably black people. >> you, clayton? how do you react to you, eric, eric eric andré, what do you have looking at those stats, do you have any final thoughts quickly? >> yeah, it's the same thing. i think african american airline passengers only make up
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about 8% of the population, so how could we be stopped 54% of the time? or higher. and what mr. english and i are trying to do is not just represent our case, but we are using our platform and our resources to stand up for the community we identify with, for the people that don't have our platform, we don't have our resources. so, it's not just about the two of us. it's about the community. and us standing up for our own community, because this is clearly unethical. >> all right, eric andré and clayton english, think you both for being with us this evening. >> my final thoughts after the break. stay with us. ghts after the break. stay with us (vo the new iphone 14 pro is here. and right now business owners can get it on us at t-mobile. apple business essentials with apple care+ is included so you can easily manage your team's devices, here, and here. all on the network with more 5g coverage.
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