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good morning to you. i'm yasmin vossoughian live for you here at msnbc headquarters in new york city. wow. we have got a jam-packed hour for you ahead including russia unleashing fresh terror in ukraine's capital this morning. deadly attacks striking apartment buildings during rush hour. a new shine that russia is shifting its strategy and becoming reliant on these weapons from iran. but ukraine's former president striking this defiant tone just last hour on msnbc. >> please, don't be afraid of putin. learn from ukraine. we know exactly what does it mean to fight against second biggest army in the world. we prove and surprise the world. >> we're going to get a live update from kyiv in just a moment. plus, a sigh of relief this morning in northern california. a police arresting a suspected
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serial killer believed to have killed six people in the stockton area. ahead, how the community helped police crack the case possibly minutes before another murder. but first, fresh alarm bells for democrats just 22 days out from the midterms with balance of power at congress in stake. we got a new poll out just this morning showing republicans regaining a small but very critical advantage among likely voters. the "new york times" poll showing this, 49% saying they are more likely to vote for republicans next month than democrats with the economy as their top concern. that warning sign coming as the crucial state of georgia begins early voting today. nbc news sat down one-on-one with herschel walker. while he is standing by his denial that he urged a girlfriend to get an abortion back in 2009, what he's now saying about the check that she says walker gave her to pay for
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it. by the way, that is where we begin. starting us off today in blayne alexander, kristen welker who sat down exclusively with herschel walker with us as well, patricia murphy and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida and an msnbc political analyst. kristen, i got to start with you on this one. i want you to walk us through this interview. you confronted him about the allegations against him when it comes to him alleging paying for this abortion of an ex-girlfriend. you talked to him about that check, and then that moment, of course, on friday night at the debate when he pulled out a police badge. talk us through it all. >> he talked to us about all of it. this was a wide-ranging interview. he sat down with us after his first and only debate with his opponent senator raphael warnock. we decided the economy where he touted the need for energy independence, and i did ask him about the largest controversy
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swirling around his campaign, the allegation that the staunch antiabortion candidate paid for a former girlfriend to have an abortion in 2009 which he is again firmly denying. >> reporter: in a one-on-one interview in his hometown of wrightsville, georgia, herschel walker providing his most extensive comments about paying his ex-girlfriend to have an abortion in 2009. >> why not reach out to her? >> why do i need to? >> reporter: nbc news has spoken to that girlfriend who provided us with a copy of a $700 check that walker gave her to pay for the abortion and a receipt from the medical center in georgia where she alleges it took place. nbc news is not revealing the woman's identity or the documents to protect the privacy of all parties. but we did show a copy of the check to walker who said the allegation he paid for an abortion isn't true. >> this is still a lie because she's the mother of my child.
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so you're going to see my check or somebody giving a check. it's a lie. >> reporter: do you know what this $700 check is for? >> i have no idea what that could be for. >> reporter: is that your signature? >> it doesn't matter if it's my signature or not. >> reporter: when pressed, walker said the check is his. >> yes, that's my check. >> reporter: why should voters believe you in -- >> they should believe me because i've been very transparent about everything i've ever done. >> reporter: he's also faced allegations of domestic violence from multiple women, including his ex-wife and his 23-year-old son christian, a conservative influencer. >> reporter: he said, you threatened to kill us and had us move over six times in six months running from your violence. you've said you love your son christian. >> right. >> reporter: for the voters who want to hear an answer to the allegation about violence, is that true? >> i would say i love my son christian. i love my whole family. i will always love them and
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stuff. that's what i say to my son christian. and i don't have any violence. >> reporter: he's faced criticism about embellishing statements about his business records and ties to law enforcement, highlighted by his opponent senator raphael warnock in their debate. >> i never pretended to be a police officer and i've never threatened a shootout with the police. >> reporter: walker brandished what appeared to be a badge. >> you know what's so funny, i am with police officers and at the same time -- >> reporter: we asked him to explain that moment. where is this one from? >> this is from my hometown, for the sheriff of johnson county. >> reporter: the johnson county sheriff confirmed he gave walker an honorary badge which allows him to help with community support in a crisis. georgia is key to determining which party controls the senate. while walking on the
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wrightsville field that baring his name, he said president trump called him after the debate. did he give you any indication that he will be here in georgia for you campaigning for you? >> if i -- if i needed him, he will come. >> reporter: we also want to point out, there was another debate in atlanta last night which walker did not attend citing disagreements with the format. senator warnock declined an interview as well. but he said, quote, this campaign will come down to who is ready to represent georgia and it is clear that is not herschel walker. >> really good stuff, kristen welker. david jolly, you've listened to what herschel walker said there, saying that he's been incredibly transparent, right, through it all and then as kristen just said, he didn't show up to the
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debate last night. you're taking a look at the polls. folks leading more towards voting for a republican come the midterm elections. what do you make of him not showing up yesterday evening, especially after the assessment from his friday evening performance on the debate stage? >> i think the candidacy of herschel walker is really just a proxy or a vessel for republicanism, trumpism, frankly, another vote for mitch mcconnell and control of the u.s. senate and i think georgia voters are beginning to behave that way. and so whether or not there's a controversy around herschel walker or not, it appears it's not really impacting the polls. still, though, raphael warnock is ahead in that race. raphael warnock he's demonstrated that he has a strong case for re-election. the controversy around walker does not help. but i think if there is any opportunity where it is really dragging walker, it's on the credibility phase. when he started off with denial, that is a hard strategy to
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maintain for five weeks as opposed to just owning the issue and explaining your journey to voters. look, i think warnock is still ahead in this race. walker, though, is being seen has a proxy and a vessel for republicanism. voters in georgia are behaving that way. >> especially what i'm hearing from you is this is about power and winning power in the senate. >> absolutely. >> even with our nbc reporting, we're hearing even black voters inside of atlanta, this is about gaining control of the senate. i want to read for you another part of our reporting that i find fascinating. i wonder as we kind of a national media, we're kind of underestimating, right, walker's celebrity amidst all of this saying this, many walker allies idolize him for his football career. there's a reason why kristen was on the football field with herschel walker, right? he was a georgia bulldog, right? you believe he was a running back.
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probably one of the greatest running backs, i'm sure, some people would say of all time at the university of georgia. people in the state of georgia see him as herschel walker then and now. >> yes, i would say he's probably one of the most famous georgians alive, even though he has not lived in georgia for the past 40 years. he is just simply a beloved figure, especially in the republican base. you will find kids in georgia named herschel. he's a celebrity of kind of unparalleled description here in the state. i would say just as important is joe biden's standing here in the state. he's got a 36% approval rating. here in georgia, the inflation rate is higher than the national average. it's about 11.8% instead of 8%. so along with that celebrity, along with joe biden's disapproval ratings, you've got a situation, especially in the metro atlanta area, which is
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heavily populated by black georgians where the economy is tough for people day in and day out. gas prices, grocery prices, rent prices, inflation, interest rates. it's all creating an enormous ability of anxiety going into people's calculations here as well. whether or not herschel walker has been accused of anything and everything, the economy is playing a big role. >> with that, and it's an important point, i want to pivot to you, blayne, as we look ahead to this evening, the debate between governor kemp and stacey abrams. it's going to be a big one, all eyes on that as well, what we're going to be looking for and then to top it off, you have early voting starting today. >> reporter: absolutely a big day in georgia. i'm here at the board of elections and we've already seen people lining up to take advantage of the first day of early voting. there were a couple dozen people in line before the sun came up, before the doors opened, waiting to go inside and cast their ballot. we talk about the two very important races, of course, on
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the ballot, but what's also notable about today is, this is really the first major election here in the state of georgia since georgia became the target of a number of election lies, since there were a number of -- basically, false claims, conspiracy theories made following the 2020 election, and the election officials that i spoke to acknowledged that this is a very different environment that voters are heading to cast their ballots today. i talked to gabriel sterling, the interim deputy secretary of state. he got on a lot of people's radars back in 2020 because he spoke out forcefully defending the validity of georgia's elections and i asked him, how do you run an election when there are already a number of conspiracy theories swirling around the state. here's what he told me. >> people are misleading people about how the system has worked in order to achieve a political end. and -- >> how do you push back against that? >> the truth, transparency and repetition. over and over and over again.
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all we can do is follow the law, follow the rules, giving everybody the real information, and then answer every question they have. >> reporter: and to that point, one thing that he talked about in addition to that is the threat against poll workers. we saw that with two workers in fulton county who had to go into hiding after a number of conspiracy theories were aimed at them. and we can report here first on nbc news, that the secretary of state's office is rolling out a new program starting today that's going to allow poll managers across the state to have a special number where they can text and send in real-time information and concern about any potential threats or any concerning activity, that information goes to the county elections board for that respective county and to the secretary of state's office to allow them to respond in realtime. that's something that they're starting today because of those threats. getting to the debate later this evening, yes, this is going to be the first time that they've faced off against each other.
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this cycle is going to be the first of two debates. it's notable because the latest poll shows the two very close. stacey abrams trailing brian kemp by just one percentage point. a number of polls throughout this election season have shown the governor with a wider lead. but you heard patricia talk about inflation. i've spoken to voters across the country, that is one of the main things they're talking about. it's reflected in that poll as well. second to that is the issue of abortion, something that 14% of georgians say is their top issue. 43% are looking at inflation as well. >> let's put a pin in this conversation, talking about whether or not democrats kind of missed the boat on leading this conversation when it comes to the economy, right? i want to read for you something the "new york times" reported. they pointed out despite spending $2 trillion to rejuvenate the economy, the democrats don't want to talk about it. they say this, some democrats worry that voters have been
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swayed by the persistent argument that the aid was caused the inflation. i wonder were democrats not pushing the narrative enough, hence one of the reasons why so many more folks are wanting to vote republican in these midterm elections? >> i think the question of the economy by democrats has to be presented with a nuance. because reality is on the ground, inflation is still taking a bite, markets are moving sideways or down, confidence is down. it's hard to take ownership of today's snapshot of the economy, if you will. but the opportunity to talk about the economy is in the bread and butter of politics and elections. elections are decided by contrasts and so democrats can say, look, we are a party that has taken responsibility for governing, that inherit add crisis and has done responsible things. the republican has not. from economy to guns to education, to health care, to reproductive rights, on every
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single issue, democrats are working on behalf of the majority of the country. the way to talk about the economy is in contrast to what republicans would do and the democrats responsibility for where we are going. that is an opportunity for democrats to prevail on november 8th. >> david jolly, thank you. thank you, guys, as well. and you can see much more of kristen's exclusive interview of herschel walker talker and also tonight on nbc "nightly news" with lester holt. explosions rocking the capital city of kyiv overnight. we're going to go live to kyiv for the latest on the deadly attacks. plus, what is next for the january 6th committee if the former president refuses to comply with their subpoena. what a member of the panel is saying. relief in stockton,
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multiple apartment buildings were struck during kyiv's early morning russia hour. four people are confirmed dead. kyiv's mayor releasing these images of the drone fragments saying they targeted the city's infrastructure. it started after a week after russia released a barrage of missiles across the country. these headlines are shedding light on the military mobilization effort. it says russia is grabbing men off the street to fight and they're sending barely trained men to war. cal perry joins me now from kyiv along with former deputy commander of the u.s./european command. when we spoke yesterday, you mentioned how the russian president had said these were the last of the massive attacks against ukraine. in fact, he was not telling the truth, unsurprisingly. tell us what you know about these drone attacks.
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>> reporter: right. so this was another wave, 28 in total drones fired from russian forces, an attempt to overwhelm the air defense systems. it knocked 23 of them out of the air. five made it through that web of air defenses, five hitting this residential apartment building. i can tell you that the targeting systems on these drones are nonexistent really because we know what they've been trying to hit. we've been to this neighborhood now after four days of strike. we know the energy infrastructure target that the russians are trying to hit. but they keep missing it. they're missing it and hitting residential areas. whether it's military incompetence, it doesn't matter. it's still a very deadly military. they're able to carry out attacks in which civilians are dying. the energy infrastructure has been hit hard. last week it was crippled. you have a city that will be almost pitch black because people are trying to conserve
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power. these drones are slow. they're basically rockets with a bad engine on the back of them. what we've been seeing on the ground is people firing their weapons at them in the air which has raised the danger here in the city. the city has put out an alert asking people to not try to shoot down the drones. you have a situation where the security situation has deteriorated a great deal and people are fearing future strikes. general, let's pick off where cal left off, we could see more civilians losing their lives in the days to come if these attacks continue. they are iranian-made. you have a russian president who has growing dependence on iran for supplying them with some of these weapons. what does the united states need to do in order to help resupply the ukrainians in fighting this? >> yeah, so the first thing we need to do -- it's not just the
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united states, it's nato as a whole, and they're working this, trying to get additional air defense capabilities into ukraine. not just the ability to shoot, but also to put sensors and radars in there. we call it an integrated air defense posture and that's what the ukrainians need. they need to be able to go after not only the switchblades, but also to shoot down the cruise missiles, the artillery that's coming in, and so there are are myriad of weapon systems that the russians are using right now to rain terror down on the civilian population and they badly need these air defense systems in the country now. >> general, i want you to talk a little bit about the mind-set inside moscow right now, specifically the russian president, especially when we talk about this draft, 300,000 men that he's asking to be drafted to the russian military to continue this fight and the
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reporting that we're getting from overseas now of men -- and we're getting video of this -- it was posted on telegram by a russia independent media product of men on a construction site being forced to list. men are literally being taken from outside restaurants, cafes, to fight on behalf of russia inside ukraine. these are not men that are trained to fight nor want to. what does that tell you about the state of this war and especially vladimir putin's intentions going forward. >> and i think you just hit it correctly. nor want to. if they don't want to fight, then they don't have the will to fight on the battlefield. and, you know, i just take the u.s. military, you have an all-volunteer force. everyone that signs their name on the dotted line, they have the will the fight, they want to
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fight for their country, it's patriotism. you don't have that right now in russia and they don't even know, they being the young men that have been told to go forward, why they're fighting. you know, it's been called special operation, everything has been hidden from them. and so they have no idea why they're fighting. by the way, many of these ukrainians or their friends, or their relatives, and so i don't think the -- to be quite honest with you, putin will ever get to 300,000. if he does, most of those folks will go in ill prepared, untrained and leaderless because most of the leaders are not trained as well. we'll see what happens here, but i just don't see the 300,000 coming forward based on what i'm looking at. >> thank you. cal perry, as always, thank you, my friend. coming up, new warnings about what doctors are calling the twindemic of covid and flu season as well. why aren't more people getting their shots?
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welcome back. police in california are revealing more about the man arrested in a series of killings that left as many as six people dead. stockton police arresting 43-year-old wesley brownlee over the weekend after tips from the public saying he was out hunting for another victim when he was taken into custody. >> also armed with a firearm when he was taken into custody. we are sure we stopped another killing. >> maura barrett is live for us from stockton, california, for more. a community that the resting easier this morning. what more have you learned about the suspect in the killings as well? >> reporter: well, this community has been gripped by
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both fear and confusion for the better part of measure a year because the victims when we look at them, several of them were latino men, some of them were homeless, but there didn't seem to be a specific target. he didn't -- the police said there's no evidence that they were race-based or targeted. the only point of commonality was that several of the attacks happened mere blocks away from each other in the area in stockton. and so police said that the suspect had a pattern of preying where he would start out in his car and stalk his victims on foot after dark when they were alone. the community resting easier there. it was thanks to the hundreds of tips that they got from the community that led to the arrest early on saturday. obviously families of the victims, though, still mourning. here is my conversation with one of the victims' mothers shortly after the arrest. >> does this bring any closure for you?
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>> yes and no. i'm just grateful that they were able to save it from happening to another person and another family having to go through what we've gone through. it's been horrific. >> reporter: the suspect is being held in the county jail without bail. police are waiting for a ballistic report to see if the gun is connected to all of the attacks. the office tells me there's been no official decision on charges just yet. they're waiting to get the ballistic evidence back and they will have that before they bring charges in tomorrow's arraignment for tuesday afternoon. >> thank you for that. everybody, so the flu season is off to an early and strong start. sorry to say. leading health experts to warn of a twindemic looming this
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winter. fewer americans are planning to get the flu shot this year and only 4% of those eligible have gotten the new covid booster, reformulated to target the omicron variant. joining me now is kavita patel. as always, it's great to have you. i guess, first off, somehow concerned should folks be about a possible twindemic this winter? >> i think folks should be concerned, but keep in mind we've made a lot of progress over the last couple of years. you mentioned the availability of a vaccine. if you take into kind of measure all the things available, then you can put up your best line of defense and actually have a relatively normal holiday season, which i think we're all looking forward to. >> so talk to me a little bit more about that. because i think a lot of people are getting different types of advice as to when actually to get that flu vaccine versus possibly a covid booster. i was at my doctor and they said if you're getting a flu vaccine now, you need to wait two weeks to get your covid booster.
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where's the science on this? what should people actually be doing? >> unfortunately, i think you're finding that a lot of health care practitioners are just as confused as the american public. we haven't had this scenario where we've had to give the covid shots at the same time that we're trying to encourage people to catch up on their other vaccines. the science shows that you can get vaccines at the same time, simultaneously, even in the same arm, if you want them. i do them in separate arm for patients to relief some of the aching that happens after a shot. they do not interfere with each other. here's a common question. they do not promote cross reactivity. if you get the flu shot and covid shot, will you get a positive test the next day if you test at home, no. so that is something that should reassure people who are strapped for time, get in, get your whole family in, you can get everything done, just be prepared for a little sore arm and we can deal with that, with tylenol and other medications. >> i was going to say that, if you're someone who gets more
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symptoms than less, after getting some of these vaccines, you might have to prepare for that as well, possibly a fever, so on and so forth after you get the flu vaccine. >> that's right. and we do expect that in some people. we expect that in the booster. i had 24 hours where i could not keep up my normal schedule. i planned for that, got it on a friday, tried to take it easy the next day. but it's much better to try to plan for this now and in terms of timing, here's a good landmark, get it done by halloween. that gives you enough time to have that flu shot and that covid booster kick into effect for the thanksgiving holiday, jewish holidays, any of the holidays coming up. >> let me play for you an interview that andrew ross sorkin did with the head of pfizer asking him specifically about getting covid twice, i believe it was in august. take a listen to what he says as to why he believes it happened. >> i was in the uk and i spent
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five days in the hotel. it was very light in symptoms and i took medication again and i became negative in 2 1/2 days. it was the new strain and when i got it back in august, it was the old strain of omicron. what do you make of this guess? we're seeing evidence of new strains popping up. but it was a lighter set of symptoms. these are all kind of related. these are strains related to the original omicron. if you can get up to date on your vaccines, that's all the more help if you get infected again, which we expect people to especially to this winter. >> doctor, as always, it's great to see you. thank you. coming up, everybody, a remash tonight after one of the most heated senate debates this year, what to expect when ohio candidates tim ryan and jd vance
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tonight, we will see another clash in one of the most closely watched senate races in the country. ohio senate candidates tim ryan, j.d. vance, set to go head to head. this race could determine control of the senate and it comes as economic pain is continuing to plague democrats just 22 days. can you believe it? jesse kirsch is live for us in youngstown, ohio, in the eastern part of ohio. good to talk to you. this was a pretty contentious debate. the first time around. and they ran the gamut of issues they covered from abortion rights to support for the
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current president and the former president respectively for either candidate. what are we going to be watching for this evening? >> yeah, i think much of the same. we've seen swipes from both sides in ads, in person on the debate stage. last week as you mentioned. so i think we can expect more of that. jd vance this morning is leaning into the economy talking about groceries. that's been his pitch. that's been a pitch we've seen from republicans across the board. tim ryan is trying to tie vance to extremist elements of the republican party, but at the same time, ryan, the democrat candidate, is trying to peel off moderate republican voters. although this is being seen as a closely watched race, obviously polling has had its problems in the past and there's skepticism around it now, what we know is
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that republicans are at least concerned enough about the possibility that there's been a lot of money brought in here from the gop side. this week, the vance campaign announcing today that we're going to see senators tim scott, ted cruz, and tom cotton all here campaigning with vance. on the other side of this race, tim ryan, the democratic congressman, has tried to keep democratic leadership away. he will have dave matthews performing next week. so that is his big draw on the democratic side. >> all right. there you go. we will all be watching. that's for sure. thank you. time's running out and options running slim for the house january 6th committee after it voted to subpoena the former president. donald trump has still not said if he would comply with the subpoena. the economy has not yet issued yet and it is still unclear what their next steps could be if he refuses. here's how two members described the road ahead.
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>> with previous subpoenas, what you've seen the committee do is be very deliberate and take the response to our subpoenas on a case by case basis and i will imagine we'll also do that. >> he's made it clear he has nothing to hide. he should come in on the day we ask him. if he pushes out of beyond that, we'll figure out what to do next. >> want to bring in ali and glenn. everyone's asking and wondering, ali, who, who, when will he? right? when are they going to issue the formal subpoena? will he comply? what are the possible next steps if he does not? where are we with all of that? >> yeah, some of those questions require a crystal ball that i have long put away, but ones that i can answer for you are that the subpoena could be issued frankly as early as today. my sources were telling me last week it was going to come in the early part of this week so that will kick off the official process of sending the subpoena to the former president and
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after that, it's really anyone's guess what happens with the former president's response, but this is a committee that's aware that they're dealing with someone who's volatile and has been critical of the work they're doing. so they're prepared for an answer that's a no or one that requires more negotiation. there's the theory happening right now that trump maybe wants to come forward but doing it live though i don't know and glenn's the lawyer here, what lawyer would advise him that that's a good idea, but at the same time, by doing this, by issuing the subpoena, what my sources told me at the time was for the committee, this was important for them to put it in the record. to though they were willing to subpoena the former president, who has been the focal point of their entire investigation. they waited so long in this process to do it so they could lay out as much evidence they had in the best chronological order they could do it to though why they thought this kind of a step was necessary.
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that's them defending the time here, but look, the only clock they are on is the one that tolls at the end of the year because that's when they need to issue that final report. it's not likely we need to see any official interim report. at least not before the midterms, but that's not to say this committee doesn't still have a bunch of information the committee isn't aware of that they could put out. not the last we've heard from them even though that was the last public hearing at least before election day. >> i'm going to ask you to do something you don't often do. one, answer ali's question. what benefit would it be to the former president to appear live before the committee answering questions and what benefit would it be to the committee? >> yeah, it will serve little benefit to donald trump if he chooses to appear and he decides to answer questions and those answers are truthful and accurate because all that does is dig his own legal hole deeper in my opinion. if he does appear, i have to
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believe his attorneys will advice him to plead the fifth. invoke his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination just like he did in new york and that was a civil proceeding that was brought by the attorney general. he pleaded the fifth 440 times. i suspect if he ever see him sitting in a witness chair before the committee, he'll be invoking the fifth. >> you're outside the oath keeper's trial going into its third week. give us a run through of what we're expecting today? >> reporter: yeah, so a number of fbi agents have been testifying from last week into this week and some people look at the evidence as it's unfolding and say boy, that's tedious. why? because the agents are reading literally hundreds of communications between and among oath keepers including the charged defendants.
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and make no mistake about it, they're dramatic. calling for civil war. saying if donald trump won't put a stop to this, we'll take up arms and put a stop to it, but hearing hundreds and hundreds of messages read to the jury and going through hotel records. going through cell phone records. going through self-site information so they can sync up where the defendants were when they were engaged in these communications can be very tedious testimony, but critically important because the prosecutors can't just tell the jury folks, there's another 500 messages just like that one. just as dramatic, dangerous, but we're just going to give them to you and let you read through them yourselves in the deliberation room. that's not the way any of this works. we're still waiting for our first cooperating witness, an insider from the oath keepers organization who's pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate. that i believe will come later
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today, iranian authorities are assessing the aftermath of a massive fire that raged inside a notorious prison. the prison caught fire on saturday evening with flaming lighting up the night sky. so far, we know eight people have died from smoke inhalation and at least 61 are injured. the facility is known for housing political prisoners. two americans currently being held there. this footage was taken by state tv and shows a reporter in the aftermath of the fire. the fire coming as protestors the death of a young woman who died are now in their fifth week. president xi is poised to enter an unprecedented third term as the leader of china and as the country holds its communist party congress. in a wide ranging address at the
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start of congress held every five years, he outlined his vision for the road ahead for the communist country. we have more on his speech from beijing. >> reporter: yes, it was xi's comments on taiwan that got the loudest and most sustained applause during his address when he said taiwan will be unified with the mainland and it's not that he's breaking any new ground with that statement. it's long been part of his position along with the warning that china will use force if necessary and especially if there's interference from the u.s. but it was the way that it was presented. taiwan less as an aspiration or a slogan than a statement of fact. so it appears that taiwan is going to be central to xi's next term in power and he will serve for at least the next five years. perhaps longer if he chooses to.
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he's already breaking with precedent with this third term and beginning to move china into more uncomfortable territory if you want to call it that. with the degree of power that now lies with the single leader. in his speech, he talked a lot about security and safety. he mentioned it more than 70 times. he talked about having a stronger chinese military and he also warned of dangerous storms facing china. he didn't name the u.s. by name, but he did allude to high winds and rough waters when it comes to competition and confrontation undoubtedly with the united states. people were also watching his speech to see if there was any sign of a relaxation in the zero covid policy here. it dictates daily life for 1.4 billion people, but it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.
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if anything, xi praised the policy saying that it put people first despite weighing on the economy and also on people's moods. what people will be watching for over the course of this week is any sign of a successor. there's been no sign of that yet. what is clear though is that xi hold on power appears complete. >> thanks for that. that does it for me on this busy monday morning. i'll be back here tomorrow, 11:00 a.m. eastern. you can catch me weekends as well starting at 2:00 p.m. "andrea mitchell reports" starts next. froms "andrea mitchell reports" starts next from ow 600,000 vehicles precisely orchestrate neay passing through their uk port every year. don't just connect your business. right on time. make it even smarter. we call this enterprise intelligence. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill.
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